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Say Goodbye: FBI Profiler, Book 6
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Say Goodbye: FBI Profiler, Book 6

Written by Lisa Gardner

Narrated by Ann Marie Lee and Lincoln Hoppe

Rating: 4 out of 5 stars

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The bestselling author of Hide and Gone draws us into the venomous mind games of a terrifying killer.

Come into my parlor . . .

For Kimberly Quincy, FBI Special Agent, it all starts with a pregnant hooker. The story Delilah Rose tells Kimberly about her johns is too horrifying to be true-but prostitutes are disappearing, one by one, with no explanation, and no one but Kimberly seems to care.

Said the spider to the fly . . .

As a member of the Evidence Response Team, dead hookers aren't exactly Kimberly's specialty. The young agent is five months pregnant-she has other things to worry about than an alleged lunatic who uses spiders to do his dirty work. But Kimberly's own mother and sister were victims of a serial killer. And now, without any bodies and with precious few clues, it's all too clear that a serial killer has found the key to the perfect murder . . . or Kimberly is chasing a crime that never happened.

Kimberly's caught in a web more lethal than any spider's, and the more she fights for answers, the more tightly she's trapped. What she doesn't know is that she's close-too close-to a psychopath who makes women' s nightmares come alive, and if he has his twisted way, it won't be long before it' s time for Kimberly to . . .

SAY GOODBYE

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Release dateJul 15, 2008
ISBN9780739357811
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Say Goodbye: FBI Profiler, Book 6
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Lisa Gardner

Lisa Gardner is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of twenty suspense novels, including The Neighbor, which won Thriller of the Year from the International Thriller Writers. An avid hiker, traveler and cribbage player, she lives in the mountains of New Hampshire with her family.

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  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    This was a typical Lisa Gardner mystery. I really enjoy reading her books when I want something fast and entertaining. she manages to weave a tale that is both intriguing and a bit mysterious.

    I realize that I have not said anything about the content of the book, but is this really a book that one has to go into a lot of detail about? It is not. If you like FBI crime series, then this is a book that you will enjoy.
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    3/5
    Ginny Jones gets in a car with a stranger. She quickly realizes her mistake when it becomes apparent that "this man was never, ever letting her go home." The villain is a deranged yet calculating individual who needs to be in control; he kidnaps boys and women and revels in the power that he has over them. He calls himself Dinchara (an acronym for arachnid), since he is obsessed with spiders. He owns a large collection of the eight-legged creatures, and tends to their every need with meticulous care. Gardner begins each chapter with a quotation that imparts more information about arachnids than most of us need to know. (the only animal I dislike and that is a mild word for it.)

    FBI Special Agent Kimberly Quincy lost her mother and her sister to a sadistic killer. Her father was one of the FBI's best profilers, and her FBI Agent husband was rapidly moving up the ranks. When Kimberly refused to step back from the harder cases due to her pregnancy, some thought she was still trying to prove herself. Despite her person issues, tracking killers was "in her blood".

    "Say Goodbye" is an incredible suspense novel. Dinchara is not your average garden variety serial killer. He's like a spider, spinning its web, drawing you in, and then leaves you dangling. It's creepy in places and downright scary in others. I fell also that I must caution you that "Say Goodbye" also covers several social issues such as kidnapping, child pornography, and rape, in graphic detail. If you have trouble reading about those topics you might want to pass on this book.
  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    The subject matter covers the suspected murders of several prostitues, however also covers the abductions and rapes of children. The descriptions of the abuse aren't grapic, but they stick with you. If you are faint hearted this is not a book for you. Having said that, I enjoy Ms gardners style of writing and this a relatively fast paced book. The only complaint is the ending & leaps to work it all out were a little far fetched..
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    3/5
    Another good thriller by this author. She always gives good value as far as suspense goes.Back Cover Blurb:Young women are disappearing....girls no one will notice are gone: prostitutes, runaways, high-risk teens. One night they exist, next morning they've vanished.For Kimberly Quincy, FBI Special Agent, it all starts with a pregnant hooker. The story Delilah Rose tells Kimberly about one of her clients seems too horrifying to be true - but prostitutes keep disappearing, one by one, with no explanation, and no one but Kimberly seems to care.Dead hookers aren't exactly Kimberly's speciality. The young agent is five months pregnant - she has more to worry about than an alleged lunatic who uses spiders to do his dirty work. But Kimberly's own mother and sister were victims of a serial killer. And now, without any bodies and with precious few clues, it appears that someone has found the key to the perfect murder....The only lead - a man who gets his kicks in the creepiest of ways: a twisted sadist with a brutal past. Kimberly knows she musn't get caught in his web, but as the trail leads her closer, it seems she must become the prey if anyone else is to survive.
  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    This was a very disturbing book and a little confusing I'm still not sure how many boys there actually were.As always a well written mystery by Lisa Gardner this book will creep you out and keep you guessing.Was nice to see Quincy & Rainie again although they were just barely on the edge of this story.Kimbery was well humanized as she struggles with her career and impending motherhood.All in all a good although creepy read.
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    3/5
    This book's subject matter was very disturbing, and I like disturbing books. The pedophile/victim/serial-killers were difficult to keep track of since there were so many of them and who went from young boys to grown men. But all in all another "enjoyable" read from Lisa Gardner. She never disappoints but this one will have me double-checking my doors and windows at night for a while.
  • Rating: 2 out of 5 stars
    2/5

    Definitely, not one of her best. May, even be her worst. Characters are difficult to keep straight and the writing is stiff. But it's certainly creepy and the subject matter is no fun to read about (child pornography and child molestation).

    In the latest Kimberly Quincy thriller, the FBI special agent is five months pregnant. Most women might be thinking about taking things a bit easy, but not Quincy: not only is she still working full time but she also stumbles into what might be the biggest case of her career (and, as regular readers know, she has already tackled a few big ones). A serial killer is targeting young women. This in itself isn’t so unusual, but here’s the twist: he is, or so it appears, using spiders as murder weapons. Kimberly is convinced she is on the trail of a psychopath, but without any bodies or hard evidence, she is having a difficult time convincing her superiors she isn’t on a wild-goose chase. In her last few novels, especially Gone (2006) and the excellent Hide (2007), Gardner has really hit her stride, and this one, if not her best, will surely be a surefire hit for her fans—and, in fact, for all readers who likes their thrillers suspenseful, fast paced, and just a little creepy (OK, a lot creepy).

  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    An arrested prostitute calls FBI Special Agent Kimberly Quincy, telling her that she has information for her. A john is taking prostitutes to his place and then putting poisonous spiders on them, forcing them to engage in other dangerous activities. Her friend Ginny has gone missing and she wants Kimberly to stop the man.Kimberly's associate, Sal Martingnetti is also worried. He tells her that he thinks someone is picking off hookers. Twice he's found the driver's licenses of three women stuck under his windshield wiper. The women were prostitutes and are missing. However, no bodies have been found so he can't get his superiors to permit him to open a large scale investigation. Even though Kim is five months, pregnant, she agrees to help.One night they follow Delilah down a road where they know Ginny's boyfriend had been murdered. They confront Delilah and she admits that she really is Ginny. She tells them that the john, she calls Dinchara, has a fetish for spiders. He gets a kick when someone shows fear and when he put a black widow spider on her and she didn't scream, he let her live.Kim and Sal must find a way to get Ginny to take them to Dinchara's and get enough evidence to convict him of his crimes. Then they learn that Dinchara has a teenage boy helping him and is grooming a younger boy to do the same. The FBI agents decide that they must stop Dinchara and rescue the boys.The author knows suspense. This story will keep the readers mesmerized until the last page. The characters are well described. Kimberly and Sal are brave, honorable characters and Dinchara shows his evil, not only in his acts but in training young children to help him with their crimes.A well done novel that will keep Gardner's fans coming back for more.
  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    I really got into this book and found I couldn't put it down. Gardner really knows how to write a murder mystery. Not only does she write an exciting plot line but she also develops all her characters including the killer. What I really like about this book is the fact that you never know what is going to happen next; predictable is not a word I would use to describe this book. **** SPOILER ALERT**** At times I found it really hard to believe that someone who went through as much abuse as he did, Dinchara continued the legacy of sexual torture on other young boys. That being said, I can see how it might happen if that is the only life he remembers. I guess there is the Stockholm Syndrome for a reason. I really like how all the characters were tied together in the end. Again, this was another book that I read within a day or two. I couldn't put it down. I give this book 4 out of 5 stars
  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    I love Gardner, and own many of her books. This one did not disappoint! At one point, I had to put the book down and decide if I could continue reading. There is a very disturbing part about sexual child abuse and murder that really got to me. I know it happens in our world, but reading that made me want to lock my children up and never let them outside around anyone! I did finish the book and was truly scared for the first time since reading Stephen King's IT many years ago.
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    Lisa Gardner writes thrillers realistic enough to make a reader look at any stranger twice. Her ability to find the evil in everyday things and happenings makes this book hard to take. The writing is first-rate: plot, characters, pacing, dialogue...all well-done. The violence is graphic enough to make one want to stop reading for a few times. Finally finished reading it, wanting closure but knowing evil is still out there. The ending was not as dark as I feared but actually added a little sense of justice. The child pornography rings are so prevalent and hard to catch, while the good guys have so few resources, argh, Gardener has at least brought a depressing subject into the open.
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    Excellent! I don't think I've been scared this bad by something I've seen or read in years. A complete page turner, can't put it down and afraid to sleep with the lights off at night book.
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    3/5
    Say GoodBye is a fast paced book that moves right along. While the character development strikes me as being fairly simplistic and predictable, I really like these main guys/girls and it is easy to spend time immerged into their world. The spider angle is a fresh twist on the serial killer saga.
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    3/5
    This book was not as good as her first books. Still, a good read but disappointing.
  • Rating: 2 out of 5 stars
    2/5
    I couldn't get into it. The plot just didn't grab me. I think I'll try again, someday, since the quality of the writing itself was good.
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    3/5
    If you're archanaophic, this isn't the book for you. Lisa Gardener's new novel, "Say Goodbye" is a fascinating, scary and compelling story about a serial killer with a fascination for using spiders as he preys on prositutes and young boys. The novel shifts perspectives from a young boy held prisoner by the killer (and getting ready to "graduate") and special agent Kimberly Quincy, who is five months pregnant. Kimberly is contacted by Jenny Jones, a prostitute whose mother was killed by the killer. The killer has a twist--he makes the victim choose his next target. In this case, Jenny's mother gave up Jenny as the next prey to be drawn into his spider's web. Kimberly is determined to track down the killer and comes periliously close to losing her marriage to a fellow agent over the conflict. At times, Gardner's novel is gripping and suspenseful. The idea of using spiders literally and as a metaphor for the killer is nicely done and will have you shuddering if you're not a fan of arachnids. Unfortunately, the novel tends to fall apart in the final quarter of the story as the FBI closes in on the killer. The wrap-up is confusing and not nearly as satisfying as it should have been.
  • Rating: 1 out of 5 stars
    1/5
    This is a disturbing, circuitous story of a man abducted and abused as a child who continues the pattern. This fiction (thankfully) story is told by Kimberly, the five month pregnant agent who becomes involved with the case. I have never read anything by this author, so I do not know if this type of horrifying story is her usual genre. But this is very, very disturbing.
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    3/5
    Ugh! I know she is hugely popular. I know her books are compulsively readable. But why? How? I have to give Gardner credit - she has mastered the technique that keeps the reader turning pages. Even though I hated the story, I actually had to FORCE myself to stop reading it! Maybe I should compare her writing to potato chips - can't read just one (page!). Overall, too violent and formulaic for my tastes. Now, if I can just keep myself away from the next one . . .
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    3/5
    Say Goodbye (ARC version) is a reasonably well written suspense/thriller about a variety of intelligence agencies and police forces, (including the usual plethora of acronyms that are recognizable or not), coming together to solve the mystery of a large number of missing prostitutes. Ms. Gardner works at keeping the suspense level high and the villain(s) ambiguous. A secondary storyline about child predators and child victims is particularly gruesome and heartrending. The author does a good job of keeping the action moving with interweaving stories, creative crime scenes and sidebar information. However, this novel is overly ambitious as the author attempts to speak out against a multitude of evils, including rape, child pornography, prostitution, murder, abduction, kidnapping, sodomy and other sexual depravities. She could have chosen one or two of these and still had a good story to tell. All of these crimes are equally horrific in their own way, making the use of all these evils in one storyline is a bit overwhelming. She also has numerous sub-themes that are never fully developed, including pregnancy, foster parenting, the financial problems of the elderly, marital issues surrounding mothers working outside the home, the possibility of ancestors hanging around as ghosts, etc. There is little relief from the horror, with the added perplexity of the italicized voice of the villain(s)/victim(s) threaded throughout the narrative. In attempting to make the reader really work to discover who the villain(s) and victim(s) are, a great deal of ambiguity is written into this part of the story, including an undefined timeline that is used to shroud the mystery further. The problem is that this device distracts the reader from the story, as the reader keeps attempting to determine if it is a flashback or the present time. Added to the criminal horror, you also get a lot of spiders, bugs, snakes and other creepy crawlies sliming around the perimeter of the story. Although this aspect of the novel rates high on the yuch-o-meter scale and may be TMI, there are some interesting arachnid tidbits quoted as lead-ins to the chapters. If you are a first-time reader of Lisa Gardner, beware of choosing to read this book first. Say Goodbye includes a number of characters from her prior publications (of which this reader was unaware), such that much of the lead characters' back-stories are contained in other novels. There is no indication of this anywhere in the front pages of the book or back cover blurb, so the reader is stuck out on a limb once you start the book. This novel can certainly be read as a stand-alone, but the reader's knowledge of the lead characters and their motivations is rendered incomplete, making the reading less satisfying. In conclusion, I generally enjoyed the pace of this novel and read it in one sitting. It was a tense and suspenseful read, even though I gritted my teeth every time my concentration was invaded by the author's use of fragments instead of full sentences, her somewhat oddly written unsynchronized conversations and incorrect verb tense. I did feel it was too ambitious with the multitude of crime elements and themes; it could have been a tighter story and more suspenseful if only one or two crimes were developed. I was annoyed with the undefined timeline in both the general narrative and the italicized storyline. I felt that most of the characters were either undeveloped or that I should have read earlier books to better know the lead characters. Confusion exists at the end with regard to the villain that makes the denouement unsatisfying.
  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    Say Goodbye stars FBI agent Kimberly Quincy as she investigates missing prostitutes, which leads her to a spider obsessed killer who calls himself Dinchara. Kimberly deals with many different issues throughout this story. Her relationship becomes strained with her husband, Mac, over work issues and her pregnancy. She also becomes somewhat involved with Salvadore Martignetti, a GBI Special Agent, whom she teams up with to help solve the mystery of Dinchara. Say Goodbye is a story with many twists and turns, which is confusing at times. It was hard to tell which character was telling which part of the story. The story is suspenseful, the characters are likeable and intriguing, and the ending has lots of surprises. This was a good read, but not my favorite Lisa Gardner book.
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    This is one of the best books I have read for quite a long time. It has all the things I look for in a great suspense book: page-turning action, great characters, lots of twists and turns in the plot, and a great general 'creepyness' LOLIt does have a lot of adult themes (ie. serial killers, child molestation, rape etc.), so if you are upset by reading about these then this book is not for you. But, I would recommended this book for anyone looking for a roller-coasterlike suspenseful summer read. I can't wait for her next one. :-)
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    Kimberly Quincy, FBI agent, is told a strange tale by a prostitute of a very scary man who is taking and killing prostitutes and has been for years. Another agent finds an unmarked envelope under his car wipers with driver's licences for 6 young women. When a few names match the prostitute's story Kimberly believes the tale. But with no missing persons reports and no bodies the word of one hooker does not make a case. As the story progresses we are introduced to one of the most vicious serial killers I've read about recently. There is more than just the one story here though, a child who has been abducted and leads a life of fear and degradation enters the scene and this thrilling thriller takes the reader on a roller coaster ride.This is my first Lisa Gardner book and I can't believe I've waited this long. I enjoyed this thriller just as much as any by my other favourite authors (ie. Slaughter or Gerritsen). This read is fast-paced, very disturbingly gruesome, with a plot that twists and shocks. You can't ask for more when it comes to a serial killer thriller. As a first-timer with this series I found it very easy to jump in with this sixth book, enough past details are given to explain what drives the characters and also to make me want to go back and read the other books. I will definitely be reading more Lisa Gardner.
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    When prostitutes in Atlanta, Georgia start disappearing, FBI agent, Kimberly Quincy becomes involved with the case. She soon discovers that the case is more complex than she thought and that she might actually be a target for a serial killer who is obsessed with poisonous spiders.Say Goodbye is very suspenseful and it was hard to put down. In parts, it was difficult to read as it involves child molestation and extreme violence. Due to the killer's fascination with spiders, arachniphobes will want to pass on this one.
  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    This is one of those books you wonder about the author for coming up with such creepy, disturbing, twisted characters and subject matter, and then wonder about yourself for being unable to put it down. Wonderfully written (for all it's creepy as hell), with tidbits of insight into the bad guy(s), who, for all they truly are evil, are sympathetic just a bit. Plenty of twists and turns keep you from figuring out the ending and turning pages well into the night, when you don't really want to be reading creepy stuff. Honestly - fascinating, thought-provoking, and thoroughly chilling. Hard-core thriller fans could do MUCH worse!
  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    4/5
    Having lost her mother and sister years earlier to a sadistic killer, Kimberly Quincy is no stranger to death and tragedy. As an FBI Special Agent on the Evidence Response Team, she deals with both on a daily basis. She is now 5 months pregnant and struggling with the logistics of becoming a mother and keeping the demanding job that she loves.Unfortunately for Kimberly, things are about to take a major turn for the worse. A young prostitute named Delilah Rose contacts Kimberly with a shocking story that seems almost too terrifying to be true. Delilah fears that a dangerous individual, who goes by the moniker Mr. Dinchara (an anagram for arachnid), has done something horrible to her roommate. It seems that Dinchara has an obsession for spiders, prostitutes and various other unusual amusements. Due to the lack of evidence, Kimberly is reluctant to pursue the case, but she soon changes her mind when she finds out that Delilah is also pregnant. Motivated by sympathy for Delilah and the guilt that she still feels from the deaths of her mother and sister, Kimberly decides that she just can not turn her back on the obviously scared Delilah Rose. She teams up with Special Agent Sal Martignetti who has anonymously received the names of several other missing prostitutes that are also suspected to be connected to Dinchara. Together, they uncover a twisted web of deceit and murder that becomes increasingly dangerous with each step that moves them closer to the truth.Please be aware that this book deals with some disturbing social issues such as rape, child abuse and prostitution. They are necessary to the storyline and, as noted by the author in the Acknowledgments section of the book, the information was obtained from actual cases. However, if reading about these subjects is upsetting to you, than you might want to pass on reading this book.Say Goodbye is a well-plotted and extremely wild ride, filled with lots of thrilling twists and turns. About halfway through the book, when the pieces start to fall into place, I simply could not put this book down. The author leaves subtle clues throughout the story, but saves the big surprises to be revealed at the end.I particularly enjoyed reading about Kimberly's hopes and concerns regarding her pregnancy. It helped to show a softer side of her character. It also added a great deal of tension to the story. Pregnancy can be a very emotional time in a woman's life, even for the toughest of us. Add to that, a life-threatening case, a strained marriage and an unwanted attraction for a coworker and you will have a definite recipe for disaster, or at the very least, a throughly entertaining story.The little snippets of information about spiders at the beginning of each chapter adds a distinctly unique element to the story. I found these to be very interesting facts, most of which I had no prior knowledge of. They also added to the overall creepiness factor of the tale.If you are looking for an intensely chilling, fast-paced read that is sure to keep you up all night, this book surely will not disappoint. Just be sure to leave your lights on and lock all the doors. You might also want to have a can of bug spray handy, just in case.
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    If you have been a fan of Lisa Gardner's previous books, I can assure you that this one will not disappoint. If this is her first book for you, I can not help but think it will most certainly not be your last.Kimberly Quincy make another appearance, this time traveling the hills and dales of Georgia, in search of a possible serial killer. And a very scary journey it is that we go along on. Now I have never had a great fear of spiders. But it will be awhile before I go down in my basement or move a log out in the yard without thinking of some of the scenes in this book. This is not really a book one should read, alone in your house at 2 a.m., as I discovered.But it is a lot more than just a scary book. Or maybe a different sort of scary, an even worse sort of scary. Innocent victims....victimizers...the line gets blurry. Are any of us really safe? Are there any happy endings? Gardner writes about a world where terrible things happen. But it is also a world in which people like Kimberly and her co-workers and her family and, in "Say Goodbye", one very old woman, as imperfect as they are, give you some hope for a world where love and intelligence and bravery will win. At least for the moment.....
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    First and foremost, the book was a very educational read. I have never learned so much about spiders in my lifetime. During parts of the book I would turn to a family member and say, "Did you know this.." or "Did you know that."It was a great read, as far as the story line goes. Readers are graced by the presence of Quincy and Rainie halfway through the book. Some parts of the story, back dialogue mainly, had me a little unsettled by the situations and actions that were happening. I wasn't expecting such explicit sexual horror in a book that wasn't written by the V.C. Andrews trust. The ending also left me very confused (keeping track of Kimberly (sinister motive?) - doing his good deeds (not going to follow his predecessors footsteps).Overall, it is a great book that shows that sometimes things just don't happen for nor reason at all and that not all criminals are born bad. Sometimes bad things happen to good people - then those good people turn bad because they couldn't deal or didn't know how to deal with the bad people and things that were happening.
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    "Say Goodbye" by Lisa Gardner is a heart-pounding, mind-bending, breath-taking thriller. This was my first novel by this author, but I certainly know where to go next time I actually want to feel my skin crawl! The plot, the pacing, the build-up...all spin together to create a perfect web of suspense. The gradual building of the psychological profile of the killer encourages the reader to, in some respects, identify with the killer. The emotions drawn from the reader only add to your sense of horror as you follow the path that led the killer to this point. The protagonist, Kimberly Quincy, FBI, reappears from earlier novels along with her husband, father, and step-mother. Her quandry of how to stay true to her own self and be a supportive wife, and now expectant mother resonate with any woman whose tried to accomplish the same. She becomes real and in her own way, makes the discoveries of the killer's past, even more horrific.If you read this book, you will be scared, you will be afraid, you will be horrified. You will feel pity, anger, powerless, and can almost taste the despair of the victims...and the killer. If you pick up this book, don't expect to be able to set it aside for any amount of time. The story and possibilities behind it will haunt you until you finish...and likely even afterwards.
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    I just got this advanced readers copy today and I am already into the 2nd chapter. So far this book exceeds my expectations!
  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    5/5
    If you're afraid of spiders, this may not be the book for you. Kimberly is back and even though she's five months pregnant, that doesn't slow her down - much to her husbands dismay. This time she gets caught up in the case of some missing (and presumed dead) hookers. Unfortunately the FBI, GBI and local police don't think there is a case, but Kimberly and local GBI agent Sal are determined to prove there is. Along with tryng to track down this sadistic killer, Kimberly has to deal with the issue of actually having to "slow down" now that she's a mother. This is probably Ms. Gardner's most sadistic killer, one of her most graphic to date - but it's also one of her best. It's one twisted, suspensful, spellspinding books I've read in a long time.