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I. Milky Way (Ngn h) trng n ra sao:
Ngn h trng n th ny (Trn thc t hoc qua nh ca ngi khc n p hn th ny )
Trn thc t chng ta hon ton c th nhn thy Milky Way bng mt thng, vn l a phn
chng ta sng Thnh ph, hoc vng nhiu nh, cn vng nng thn th li khng . Nu
bn i n mt ni no t nhim sng hy dnh vi pht nhn ln bu tri v tm kim MW, nu
may mn hm c MW th bn hon ton c th nhn thy bng mt thng
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II. Nhng th cn thit:
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1. Thit b cn thit:
- ng nhin l mt my nh, my c kh nng kh noise tt cng tt. Khuyn khch cc my nh
Canon 6D, 5DIIINikon D600, D800, D800ETuy nhin mnh chp 5DII cng tm n. Cc my nh
PnS cng c th chp th loi ny
- ng knh gc rng, cng rng cng li v thi gian phi sng (v sao th mnh s ni bn di),
khu cng ln cng tt, tt nht l khu 2.8 tr ln:
- Chn my
- Cc thit b khc nh: dy bm mm , n pin chiu sng tin cnh, smart phone ci phn mm
Stellarium gip xc nh v tr Milky Way (y l phn mm rt cn thit cho vic xc nh v tr
MW, mc ln my gi v hm c mt trng khng)
2. V tr, iu kin v thi im chp Milky Way:
- V tr: V chp th loi ny s dng ISO cao, bn nn tm n ni cch xa thnh ph, nh ca,
ng x c n chiu sng, mc ch l trnh nhim sng
- iu kin chp c Milky Way:
+ Tri quang my
+ Khng c trng: nh sng ca trng s ln t nh sng ca MW nn ko chp c. C ngy c
trng nhng trng khng nm v tr ca MW th ta c th i mt trng ln ri chp, cn nu trng
nm ngay v tr ca MW th khng th chp c, phi i thi im khc, vn xc nh v tr ca
MW v trng l rt d dng vi phn mm Stellrarium
- Thi im chp: Vit Nam th chp Milky Way thun li nht l t thng 3 n ht ma h i
vi khu vc Min Trung, cn Min Nam v Min Bc th cc bn xc nh ma no kh ro, khng
c ma, my mTheo m lch th cc bn nn chp vo cc ngy cch xa ngy 15 (ngy rm)
trnh ch Hng
3. Cch xc nh v tr Milky Way khi khng c phn mn Stellarium: Khi khng dng phn mm
Stellarium th kh khn ca bn s l khng xc nh trc c my gi MW mc ln, thi gian
no c mt trng, mt trng c nm v tr MW hay khng l nhng iu quan trng nht, cn
vic xc nh v tr MW th khng kh, bn chu kh nhn sao tri s bit n nm u, thm ch khi
bn ti a im c th chp MW (vng khng b nhim sng) th nhn ln tri bn s nhn thy
ngay MW bng mt thng. V tr sng nht ca Milky Way c xc nh nh sau:
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Nhn vo hnh trn bn d dng nhn thy MilKy Way nm gia 2 chm sao mnh nh du cc
ngi sao bng chm vng, v n vung gc vi chm sao hnh ci mc cu (tn khoa hc l g th
mnh b tay). V tr sng nht ca ca MW cng nm gia 2 chm sao ny
Vit Nam th MW s mc hng ng Nam v di chuyn v hng Ty Nam
III. Chp Milky Way:
1. B cc khung nh trong bng ti: vic ny l hi kh khn nu bn khng c n pin, tuy nhin
cho d c n pin th trong a phn trng hp bn phi chp test m, tc l hng my v i
tng chp th, xem li nh, ri di chuyn my t t cho ng vi b cc mong mun. Bn yn tm
l chp Milky Way khng ging nh bnh minh hay hong hn khonh khc tri qua nhanh, chp
MW thi gian ko di vi gi ng h, thm ch l t ti cho n khi tri sng, nn c bnh tnh m
b cc khung nh
2. Thit lp my nh:
- Chp ch M
- Nn chp file RAW
- Cn bng trng: Auto, v ng no cng v hu k, chnh sau.
- Ly nt bng tay, v ta chp th loi ny trong mi trng ti nn khng th ly nt t ng, bn
hy bt Live View v dng n pin chiu vo vt no cch my nh khong 20-30m (hoc hn)
ri ly nt bng tay vo vt , khong cch ly nt ny s bo m cho hu cnh nt tt khu ln
nh 2.8 (vi tiu c Ultra Wide). Khi tin cnh ko c nt, ta c th khc phc bng cch chp
2 tm (1 nt tin cnh v 1 nt hu cnh) v ghp li vi nhau, vi nh khng c tin cnh gn th
khng cn. Lu : theo kinh nghim ca mnh trong trng hp chp 2 tm th tm tin cnh bn
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nn khp khu, h ISO v phi sng nh bnh thng, dng n pin chiu sng tin cnh, mc ch
ca vic ny l bo m cho su trng nh ca tin cnh v hn ch Noise.
- Khu : m khu ln nht c th ca lens, nn l khu 2.8 hoc ln hn
- Tc chp, phn ny rt quan trng: Nu bn phi sng qu lu th sao s to thnh vt, phi
sng ngn qu th nh khng d sng. Thi gian phi sng di nht c th ph thuc vo tiu c
lens bn ang s dng v loi my bn dng. C th cch tnh thi gian phi sng nh sau:
+ Vi body Fullframe: Bn ly 500 chia cho tiu c lens l ra thi gian phi (tnh bng giy) di
nht c th m sao khng to thnh vt. V sao ly s 500? chng qua l cch tnh lin quan ti
tc quay ca tri t, bn khng cn phi quan tm
V d:
* S dng lens tiu c 15mm: 500/15 = 33s. Vy vi lens tiu c 15mm th bn c th phi sng 33s
l ti a
* S dng lens tiu c 24mm: 500/24 = 21s. Vy vi lens tiu c 24mm th bn c th phi sng 21s
l ti a
+ Vi body Crop: Bn ly 500 chia cho tiu c lens, sau chia cho h s Crop l ra thi gian phi.
Thng thng cc my DSLR Crop ca Canon th h s crop l 1.6, ca Nikon l 1.5
V d: Vi my DSLR Crop Canon, h s crop 1.6
* S dng lens tiu c 15mm: 500/15/1.6 = 21s. Vy vi lens tiu c 15mm trn my crop h s 1.6
th bn c th phi sng 21s l ti a
* S dng lens tiu c 24mm: 500/24/1.6 = 13s. Vy vi lens tiu c 15mm trn my crop h s 1.6
th bn c th phi sng 13s l ti a
V th bn nn chn lens cng wide cng tt
- ISO: Khi ta c nh v tc chp v khu th yu t ta c th thay i nh sng l
ISO. Thng thng vi tc chp 30s, khu 2.8 th ISO l tng l 3200 cho ti 6400, ni
chung khi chp thc t bn xem sng ti ca nh v ty chnh ISO cho ph hp
Bn b qua vn o sng trong th loi chp ny, v kiu g my cng bo l thiu sng nghim
trng, mc k n, c chp thi :v . Tuy nhin ng b qua biu Histogram khi xem li nh, hy
bo m l th Histogram nm chnh gia cho sng nh! Trong trng hp thiu sng hay
tha sng, hy ty chnh thng s theo th t u tin ISO, sau mi ti tc chp
IV. X l hu k:
Khng c mt k thut x l hu k c nh, ty vo s trng, s thch ca mi ngi. Mnh khng
gii hu k, c l mi ngi s c cch lm hay hn nhiu, tuy nhin vi kinh nghim ca ring mnh
th mnh thc hin hu k c bn l nh sau:
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- V mnh dng Canon nn s dng DPP xut file RAW thnh file TIF 16 bit mu
- Sau dng Camera Raw trong Pts x l file TIF kia, nhng th cn ty chnh l:
+ Chnh Cn bng trng: K chun trong nh MW l 3800-4000, vy bn c nh th m lm l n
+ Ko thanh Recovery ln mc 80-100% cu chi tit vng chn tri qu sng (ng chn tri
lun rt sng khi chp th loi ny)
+ Ko thanh Blacks khong 5% nh trong hn (Ci ny ty nh, v vic ny ng ngha nh s ti
hn, mt chi tit vng ti)
+ Tng Contrast cho nh
+ Quan trng nht l phn Clarity, hy mnh dn ko thanh ny ln 100%, bn s thy vng MW
r rng v sng hn ng k
+ Kh Noise: nh th loi ny th Noise l bn ng hnh, v vy vic kh Noise ch l gim ti mc
c th ch kh lng trit . Trong phn Noise Reduction ko thanh Luminance ti khi nh bt
noise, ty vo nh m bn ko thanh ny mc va phi. Sau khi kh noise th nh s mt nt
kha kh, hy ko thanh Amount trong phn Sharpening, c th ln ti 100% ty vo bn.
- Xong phn trong Camera Raw th xut file ra Pts, tinh chnh trong Curves mt t. Nu c chp 2 tm
th dng Layer Mask chng hnh
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