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PC Buyer's Guide II: Extreme, High-End, Mid-Range, Budget, and Entry Level Systems
Updated on 4 May 2008
A PC Buyer’s Guide that is everything to everyone is simply not possible. This is a simple guide to putting together a
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Extreme Systems
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 & ASUS Striker II Formula ~ $2199
Crucial PC2-6400 DDR2-800 4GB (2X2GB) ~ $225
Dual MSI 9800GTX ~ $990
or MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
Western Digital Raptor 150GB ~ $276
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB 32MB for Storage ~ $135
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
SilverStone Zeus ST75ZF 750W ~ $199
Cooler Master Stacker 832 W/Side Window ~ $368
Total ~ $4XXX
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 & ASUS Rampage Formula ~ $2159
Crucial PC2-6400 DDR2-800 4GB (2X2GB) ~ $225
MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
or GeCube HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $749
or PowerColor HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $659
Western Digital Raptor 150GB ~ $276
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB 32MB for Storage ~ $135
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
SilverStone Zeus ST75ZF 750W ~ $199
Cooler Master Stacker 832 W/Side Window ~ $368
Total ~ $4XXX
High-End Systems
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 or E8400 & Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 ~ $948/$819
or Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 & Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 ~ $?
or Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 & Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 ~ $900
Crucial PC2-6400 DDR2-800 4GB (2X2GB) ~ $225
MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
or GeCube HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $749
or PowerColor HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $659
Western Digital Raptor 74GB ~ $211
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Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB 32MB for Storage ~ $135
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
Enhance ENP-5150GH 500W ~ $125
Cooler Master Stacker 832 W/Side Window ~ $368
Total ~ $3XXX
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 & Gigabyte GA-EX38-DS4 ~ $680
or AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F
Crucial PC2-6400 DDR2-800 4GB (2X2GB) ~ $225
MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
or GeCube HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $749
or PowerColor HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $659
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB 32MB ~ $135
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
Enhance ENP-5150GH 500W ~ $125
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $2XXX
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 & MSI P35 NEO2-FR ~ $490
or AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 4GB (2X2GB) ~ $130
MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
or GeCube HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $749
or PowerColor HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $659
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB 32MB ~ $135
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
Enhance ENP-5150GH 500W ~ $125
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $19XX
Mid-Range Systems
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 & MSI P35 NEO2-FR ~ $490
or AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 4GB (2X2GB) ~ $130
MSI 9800GTX ~ $495 (need big casing)
or Leadtek 8800GTS 512 ~ $399
WD Caviar SE 320GB SATA ~ $100
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
Enhance ENP-5150GH 500W ~ $125
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $16XX
Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 & MSI P35 NEO2-FR ~ $460
or AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 2GB (2X1GB) ~ $56
Xpertvision 8800GT HDMI 512MB Sonic ~ $369
or Xpertvision 8800GT HDMI 512MB ~ $329
or PowerColor HD3870 PCS 512M DDR4 @ $309
or PowerColor HD3870 512MB DDR3 ~ $249
WD Caviar SE 320GB SATA ~ $100
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
Andyson AD-500 500W ~ $89
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $12XX
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 & Abit IP35-E ~ $430
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or AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 2GB (2X1GB) ~ $56
Xpertvision 8800GT HDMI 512MB Sonic ~ $369
or Xpertvision 8800GT HDMI 512MB ~ $329
or PowerColor HD3870 PCS 512M DDR4 @ $309
or PowerColor HD3870 512MB DDR3 ~ $249
WD Caviar SE 160GB SATA ~ $68
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
Andyson AD-450 450W ~ $78
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $11XX
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 & Abit IP35-E ~ $360
or AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 2GB (2X1GB) ~ $56
Xpertvision 8800GT HDMI 512MB Sonic ~ $369
or Xpertvision 8800GT HDMI 512MB ~ $329
or PowerColor HD3870 PCS 512M DDR4 @ $309
or PowerColor HD3870 512MB DDR3 ~ $249
WD Caviar SE 160GB SATA ~ $68
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
Andyson AD-450 450W ~ $78
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $10XX
Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 & Abit IP35-E ~ $330
or AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 2GB (2X1GB) ~ $56
Xpertvision 9600GT Sonic ~ $279
or Xpertvision 9600GT ~ $199
or PowerColor HD3870 512MB DDR3 ~ $249
or ASUS HD3850 512MB DDR3 ~ $199
WD Caviar SE 160GB SATA ~ $68
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
Andyson AD-450 450W ~ $78
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $9XX
Budget Systems
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F ~ $290
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 2GB (2X1GB) ~ $56
ASUS HD3850 256MB DDR3 ~ $179
WD Caviar SE 160GB SATA ~ $68
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
CoolerMaster Extreme 460W ~ $63
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $8XX
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ & Palit N68S ~ $185
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 (2X1GB) ~ $56
Xpertvision 8600GT 256MB DDR3 ~ $129
WD Caviar SE 160GB SATA ~ $68
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
CoolerMaster Extreme 460W ~ $63
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $6XX
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Entry Level Systems
Sempron 64 3000+ & Biostar NF61V ~ $128
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 1GB ~ $28
WD Caviar SE 80GB SATA ~ $60
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
AOpen 350W ~ $47
Casing ~ $40
Total ~ $3XX
Sempron 64 3000+ & Biostar NF61V ~ $128
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 512MB ~ $20
WD Caviar SE 80GB SATA ~ $60
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
AOpen 350W ~ $47
Casing ~ $40
Total ~ $3XX :s22:
adrianlee 24-08-2005 11:35 AM
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Choosing the Right Memory for Core 2 Duo Platform - Part 1
Choosing the Right Memory for Core 2 Duo Platform - Part 2
Choosing the Right Memory for Core 2 Duo Platform - Part 3
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E=Vcore 1.5V
P= Max Tcase=70C
4=L2 512KB
AW=Rev CG
ADA=AMD Athlon™ 64 Desktop
3700=Model Number
D=939pin
KA=Vcore 1.35V
A=Max Tcase=Variable
5=L2 1MB
CF=Rev E6
ADA=AMD Athlon™ 64 Desktop
3700=Model Number
D=939pin
A=Vcore 1.35 to 1.4V Variable
A=Max Tcase=Variable
5=L2 1MB
BN=Rev E4
SDA=AMD Sempron™ Desktop
3300=Model Number
A=754pin
I= Vcore 1.4V
O=Max Tcase=69C
2=L2 128KB
BX=Rev E6
SDA=AMD Sempron™ Desktop
3100=Model Number
A=754pin
I= Vcore 1.4V
O=Max Tcase=69C
3=L2 256KB
BO=Rev E3
SDA=AMD Sempron™ Desktop
3100=Model Number
A=754pin
I= Vcore 1.4V
O=Max Tcase=69C
3=L2 256KB
BA=Rev DO
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Motherboards
Memory
1GB DIMMs: FAST 2GB DDR Kits from Corsair, Gigaram, and OCZ
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2560
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Corsair TwinX2048-4400 PRO PC4400 DDR Memory
http://www.pcstats.com/artvnl.cfm?articleID=1862
2x1GB/1x1GB OC Database
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=67762
Corsair TWINX1024-4400C25
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2312
Kingston HyperX, Crucial Ballistix and Corsair XMS Expert 1GB Kit
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=707
adrianlee 24-08-2005 11:37 AM
Graphics Card
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http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...u_performance/
Call of Duty 2 High-end Graphics Shootout
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ce_ati_nvidia/
3D Performance with Call of Duty 2: Mainstream Cards
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ange_graphics/
Quake 4 High-end Graphics Shootout
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/quak...d_performance/
3D Performance with Quake 4: Part 2 Mainstream Cards
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/quak...ce/default.asp
3D Performance with F.E.A.R. Part 1: Mainstream Cards
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/fear...ce_mainstream/
Battlefield 2 GPU Performance Analysis
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2466
Quake 4 CPU Shootout: Intel vs. AMD
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/quak...u_performance/
F.E.A.R. CPU Shootout: AMD vs. Intel
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/fear_cpu_performance/
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http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.c...004/index.html
Leadtek WinFast PX7800 TDH MyVIVO Extreme vs ASUS Extreme N7800 GTX TOP
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...704&cid=3&pg=1
GPU Database
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/
Hard Disk
Seagate's 7200.9
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http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2559
DVD Player
Plextor PX-130A
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=15285
Plextor PX-716SA
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=15134
Plextor PX-716AL
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=14918
BenQ DW1640
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=14268
BenQ DW1625
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=14236
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Power Supply
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PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produc...php?show=TC1KW
Casing
adrianlee 24-08-2005 11:37 AM
Heatsink-Fan
Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
Zalman CNPS7700Cu
Thermalright XP-90
Thermalright XP-90C
Thermalright XP-120
Thermalright Copper Heatsink SLK-948U
Coolermaster Hyper6
Thermaltake Tower 112
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Thermaltake Silent Tower
Thermaltake Silent Boost K8
Thermaltake Silent Boost K7 A1889-01 Ball Bearing
Thermaltake Silent Boost K7 A1889 Hydro Wave Bearing
ZALMAN CNPS7000A
Intel Pentium 4 Heatsink Roundup
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=71226
http://www.necdisplay.com/support/cs...m#introduction
justin_ 24-08-2005 01:05 PM
Hope it's safe to reply now :s13:
anyway why never consider the ASUS Extreme for the Extreme Systems? Though it's durability is questionable.
jt_aus 24-08-2005 01:18 PM
How about an extreme system option of an Asetek Lightspeed or some other kind of phase change cooling? Maybe you
could include an overclockers extreme system.
PS: I've got the MSI K8N Diamond with TWINX1024-4400C25 (2GB, 4x512) and I can't get them to run above
250MHz/DDR500. Even at 4-4-4-8 timings. Also, the mainboard BIOS (which is the latest from MSI) doesn't seem to
have an CPU:RAM ratio setting. :s11:
Well done by the way, I don't know how you do it. :)
adrianlee 24-08-2005 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_
Hope it's safe to reply now :s13:
anyway why never consider the ASUS Extreme for the Extreme Systems? Though it's durability is questionable.
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Mun mun lai :D ASUS Extreme N7800GTX TOP/2DHTV. Give me price and I will put it up
I am waiting to include this one :)
adrianlee 24-08-2005 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jt_aus
How about an extreme system option of an Asetek Lightspeed or some other kind of phase change cooling? Maybe
you could include an overclockers extreme system.
Go to review sites. Not Buyer's Guide
This one good
Quote:
Originally Posted by jt_aus
PS: I've got the MSI K8N Diamond with TWINX1024-4400C25 (2GB, 4x512) and I can't get them to run above
250MHz/DDR500. Even at 4-4-4-8 timings. Also, the mainboard BIOS (which is the latest from MSI) doesn't seem to
have an CPU:RAM ratio setting. :s11:
I would get 2 X 1GB :D
o0KelviN0o 24-08-2005 01:47 PM
y no X2? :D
adrianlee 24-08-2005 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by o0KelviN0o
y no X2? :D
I will include dual core systems after editing the present guide
jt_aus 24-08-2005 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adrianlee
I would get 2 X 1GB :D
I thought about it but there seems to be no performance 1GB RAM around, the only Corsair TWINX2048 (2GB) are
PC3200 DDR400. Anyway, I thought 1024MB sticks were even harder to overclock than 512MBs? :s11:
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eventhorizon 24-08-2005 09:55 PM
Nice buyer's guide... Care to include X2, Pentium D or Pentium Extreme Edition (PEE)?
eventhorizon 24-08-2005 10:18 PM
After reading again huh, i find tt i see less info leh...
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