ukedchat Archive 16th May 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic

20:00:45 ukedchat

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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EngChatUK

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ICTmagic

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aangeli

20:01:38

SparkyTeaching

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aknill

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ICTmagic

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yesiamemmab ColinTGraham

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mrjonesICT ICTmagic shornymorgan

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truan_steve

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Primary_Ed ICTmagic

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aknill

Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @ICTmagic How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning? RT @Debsgf: Can anyone give me some tips on teaching the poem 'Daffodils' creatively for a high attaining English group. #ukedchat #engchatuk Starting broad... Is it important that children know what is 'expected' for the end of a lesson when it is just beginning? #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @ICTmagic How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning? You say "Investigational, lively, relevant, enjoyable maths". Our survey says... #GameShowMaths #ukedchat >> http://t.co/zoofhkKc9K @ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat I use the #7ePlan with 3 solo based learning outcomes to allow progress throughout lesson and key questions RT @ukedchat: Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @ICTmagic How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning? If there are clear LOs, it gives the children something to work towards and helps focus their minds, no? #ukedchat I like to create an atmosphere where whoever I'm teaching, children or not, need to expect the unexpected... #ukedchat Thanks to everybody who tweeted their location for todays #ISMTweetmeet > amazing response :) #ukedchat #edchat #edtech @aknill What does that entail? #ukedchat I like lessons where it is not made explicit and it's more of a surprise - then discuss what learning took place at the end. #ukedchat We have designed peer assess tool that enables kids to evaluate their work using LO. This is DT eg #ukedchat http://t.co/kCbeq4Rd8B Tell the children what you hope they will achieve by the end of the series of lessons. #ukedchat #edchat @shornymorgan Are you still able to guide the lesson to a 'useful' outcome when you do this? #ukedchat #ukedchat some lessons an unknown destination would be fine surely as life is not full of certainties and children need to learn to cope.

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20:04:14 Jivespin

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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bekblayton

20:04:39

ICTmagic

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ColinTGraham

20:05:36

ICTmagic

20:05:44

Jivespin

20:05:45

shornymorgan

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piersyoung LPerformance ICTmagic

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ColinTGraham

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joelittlewood

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thingsbehindsun

20:08:01

ColinTGraham

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tobyholman

20:08:16

MissJLud

NEW POST - Broken words - presenting lesson objectives differently http://t.co/99Atbrr72B via @wordpressdotcom #ukedchat I think some expectations should be shared, but unsure about detailed 'criteria' #ukedchat @Primary_Ed Do you think it is important to structure the LOs etc are each stepping stone through the series of lessons? #ukedchat I like to ask my learners what they expect/hope to have learned by the end of the lesson. Cognitive development is important, tho. #ukedchat @bekblayton Interesting. Why? #UKEdchat #ForgottenHashTag The Pen of Power - a starter that checks understanding of learning objectives http://t.co/CDmPdpuObM via @wordpressdotcom #ukedchat @ICTmagic Yes, as long as you have idea of long term outcomes for learning, the process tends to include even more than you hope #ukedchat does the way LOs etc are used necessarily vary by subject? #ukedchat Agreed. Gives them something to work towards & gauge their needs. @yesiamemmab #ukedchat @ColinTGraham Indeed. But what if their ideas don't match the NC area you wish to cover? #UKedchat Can I ask are learning objectives more important for early years, secondary, or just any situation where learning is involved? #ukedchat #ukedchat teaching Y1 it's important that ch know (& are regularly reminded) what they are learning. The reason/purpose is just as important Formulaic approach to teaching not right. Spell out expectations sometimes, other times let the lesson take you where it takes you #ukedchat @ICTmagic It's too easy to get "tied up" in the idea that the NC is a prescription, rather than a framework for teaching... #ukedchat @ColinTGraham Important for all stages to know where they're goingas too important to know where they've been / are now #ukedchat Just broke health and safety laws putting up active verbs on my wall. #ukedchat http://t.co/ka7gtNg2yL

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20:08:18 tesResources

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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kateonthinice

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Jivespin

20:08:32

tesMFL

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ICTEvangelist

20:08:40

oldandrewuk

20:08:44

mrw608

20:08:49

lisa_uk_com

20:09:11

PaulsElearning

20:09:20

aangeli

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dukkhaboy

20:09:25

ColinTGraham

20:09:34

maths_mrsb

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atlanticblanket ICTmagic

We've got a live MFL chat happening now - teaching ideas for introducing new language. Please join in: http://t.co/2CGFdvkrYa #ukedchat Still looking for blogs by primary literacy teachers #ukedchat Missing key word - another way to introduce learning objectives http://t.co/5ozJfgsv70 via @wordpressdotcom #ukedchat We've got a live chat happening now - teaching ideas for introducing new language. Please join in: http://t.co/RhJh0RlQlZ #ukedchat RT @joelittlewood: #ukedchat teaching Y1 it's important that ch know (& are regularly reminded) what they are learning. The reason/purpose is just as important Learning objectives can be a useful part of teacher planning. Of no real use to the kids though. WALT, WILF etc. are garbage. #ukedchat #ukedchat I like @timrylands "LO: and behold!" Write down LO on a card but don't show ch. Get ch to guess at end of lesson and then reveal @joelittlewood surely this is verbal more than written? #ukedchat http://t.co/xYoyX2z8x2 [Market research] Please could you spare 5 minutes to complete my short on-line survey? #ukedchat #edtech #elearning RT @mrw608: #ukedchat I like @timrylands "LO: and behold!" Write down LO on a card but don't show ch. Get ch to guess at end of lesson and then reveal #ukedchat i am so bored with learning objectives. and all those tweaked ways people try to show them. they are monotonous and dull @tobyholman So any "sensible" educational institution is going to encourage a monitoring of learning objectives throughout..? ;-) #ukedchat RT @SparkyTeaching: You say "Investigational, lively, relevant, enjoyable maths". Our survey says... #GameShowMaths #ukedchat >> http://t.co/zoofhkKc9K RT @kateonthinice: Still looking for blogs by primary literacy teachers #ukedchat @ColinTGraham But what about coverage! #UKedchat (Disclaimer - ICTmagic is doing his best to play devil's

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TheHeadsOffice

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iChrisLehman

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piersyoung

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ICTmagic

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ColinTGraham

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CharHarAgain

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tobyholman

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bekblayton

20:11:07

thingsbehindsun

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oldandrewuk

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EmmaWrafter

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ICTmagic

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joelittlewood

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Jivespin

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ColinTGraham

advocate) RT @ICTmagic: Do you blog about Primary English and/or Maths? @kateonthinice wants to hear from you. #UKedchat #DLchat #SLTchat Pls RT. @ICTmagic I think children shld know ur teaching intention, but unrealistic to imagine they'd have mastery by end of one day #ukedchat @thingsbehindsun #ukedchat agree re formulaic approach to teaching. Sometimes feel LOs encourage tendency to overplan/oversimplify learning @iChrisLehman How can you ensure this and still involve the children in the direction of their learning? #ukedchat @dukkhaboy I would tend to agree. I think we should be moving towards a portfolio-type of assessment. "Justify yourself!" #ukedchat I find the "By the end of lesson you will have learned" format stifling. So many teacher training lectures started that way. #ukedchat @ColinTGraham Yes, I'd say so. What's key is students know what / why they are learning what they are learning #ukedchat @ChrisChivers2 true, but I think it doesn't always have to be at the beginning or from the teacher #ukedchat LOs spelt out at the start of the lesson far less important than proving that the lesson's been worthwhile by the end #ukedchat #ukedchat Most common mistake I see teachers make when designing a curriculum is to specify activities not learning. LO's should help. RT @piersyoung: @thingsbehindsun #ukedchat agree re formulaic approach to teaching. Sometimes feel LOs encourage tendency to... @CharHarAgain ... too many staff meetings/CPD session 'imply' & employ that idea too. #ukedchat #ukedchat When doing PGCE I occasionally told Y5s I wasn't going to tell them the LO and let them guess at end of lesson. Risky but engaging @LearningSpy continuum method of introducing LOs is a work of genuis - found it invaluable. #ukedchat @ICTmagic Oh I've played DA many times before now! "Coverage of 'what'?" becomes, or should be, the qeustion. #ukedchat

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20:12:04 LPerformance

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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CharHarAgain ICTmagic iChrisLehman

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bekblayton

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miss_mcinerney

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Jivespin

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Michael_Merrick

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miss_mcinerney Dandan7171

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CharHarAgain

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mrw608

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iChrisLehman

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MsTick68 Primary_Ed fullonlearning tobyholman

That's true as OL have to be generic for the whole class it can lead to low expectations? @piersyoung @thingsbehindsun #ukedchat @dukkhaboy Agreed. I've sat through student presentations on BA Edu where every talk started with "By the end you will.." Awful #ukedchat @debrakidd Ah! A wondeful metaphor. :) #ukedchat @ICTmagic I think it's thinking of teaching as a cooking show. As options. I demo ways, but you choose which to use when. #ukedchat @ICTmagic I think pupils should develop some of their own criteria, or get the chance to work on the lesson first. #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Most common mistake I see teachers make when designing a curriculum is to specify activities not learning. LO's should help. Also Clare Gadsby's book called Perfect Assessment for Learning has many great strategies for introducing LOs #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Most common mistake I see teachers make when designing a curriculum is to specify activities not learning. LO's should help. RT @kateonthinice: Still looking for blogs by primary literacy teachers #ukedchat To what extent is it done cos it is expected rather than useful? thoughts? ticky boxes? arrrrgh! #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: @CharHarAgain ... too many staff meetings/CPD session 'imply' & employ that idea too. #ukedchat We use LQs instead of LOs - the aim of the lesson is that ch can answer the LQ by the end #ukedchat Agreed! & presumptuous! @CharHarAgain: I find the "By the end of lesson you will have learned" format stifling. #ukedchat RT @kateonthinice: Still looking for blogs by primary literacy teachers #ukedchat Sometimes I get chn to work out what the LO is at the end of the lesson. #ukedchat #edchat Learning Objectives for the teacher, Learning Outcomes for the learner #ukedchat @ColinTGraham Am fine with that. Outcomes can be met in so many ways and by so many paths #ukedchat

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20:14:44 aknill

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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LPerformance

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thingsbehindsun

20:15:03

fullonlearning

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iChrisLehman

20:15:20

ICTmagic

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EmmaWrafter

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ICT_MrP

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LearningSpy

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ColinTGraham fullonlearning MrACalvert

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MrOCallaghanEdu

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Louise_gkbcinc HoDTeacher

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yesiamemmab Jivespin

RT @fullonlearning: Learning Objectives for the teacher, Learning Outcomes for the learner #ukedchat Get students involved in their learning by getting them to create own OL. Gives them power, aims & focus. #ukedchat Asking all teachers to work within a set framework is disastrous. May improve the weakest but does not challenge the best #ukedchat SO THAT 'breaks' the learning SO THAT the outcome is clear. Clarity of outcome enhanced by Success Criteria #ukedchat @mrw608 I just worry even that is narrow, how do any of us answer a question from just one lesson? I think longer term ?s matter #ukedchat @ChrisChivers2 How far is meander & what is a detour? Does it matter if you don't teach the lesson you thought you were going to? #ukedchat Yes! @lperformance: Get students involved in their learning by getting them to create own OL. Gives them power, aims & focus. #ukedchat I have found this to be amazing to get children to talk about the LO and writing as they are competing! http://t.co/7vluRAUfp1 #ukedchat Learning objectives & why we need em http://t.co/fXIuY7lRyy #ukedchat Are learning outcomes/objectives actually all that clearly defined? Should the NC be more like a "can"/"cannot" statement? #ukedchat 'SO THAT'--> http://t.co/f1mBPqo2TN #ukedchat RT @Primary_Ed: Sometimes I get chn to work out what the LO is at the end of the lesson. #ukedchat #edchat RT @fullonlearning: SO THAT 'breaks' the learning SO THAT the outcome is clear. Clarity of outcome enhanced by Success Criteria #ukedchat National Walk to School Week coming up next week, will you be walking? :) http://t.co/PiCmcForqo #ukedchat #ukedchat LOs should be used as part of holistic approach to afl http://t.co/SWF7WwVk0t But also it depends on the lesson... Sometimes providing too many 'LOs, criteria' etc. can take the engagement away from te lesson #ukedchat Hate the idea of students writing down LOs - instead my

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How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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montfordmiffy

20:16:45

ICTmagic

20:16:53

LearningSpy

20:16:56

BBA_Computing

20:16:59

misscnewton82

20:17:04

ICTEvangelist

20:17:06

truan_steve

20:17:09

iChrisLehman

20:17:19

joelittlewood

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misscnewton82

20:17:46

ColinTGraham

20:17:50 20:17:53 20:17:59 20:18:14

ICTmagic ClareBrunet LPerformance HoDTeacher

LO is the lesson title - an enquiry q. If they can answer that. Great! #ukedchat RT @mrw608: #ukedchat I like @timrylands "LO: and behold!" Write down LO on a card but don't show ch. Get ch to guess at end of lesson and then reveal @ChrisChivers2 Following interests independently? How can that be achieved with 30+ in a class? @debrakidd @ClareBrunet #ukedchat Bored with the same old same old way of introducing LOs? 50 ways to lead your lesson http://t.co/pQC2iil2Ca #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: SO THAT 'breaks' the learning SO THAT the outcome is clear. Clarity of outcome enhanced by Success Criteria #ukedchat @ICTmagic agree with what others have said re:detours/flexibility. What would ofsted think to this though? #ukedchat 1/2 RT @MrAColley: 34 people already signed up for #TMELancs. Fancy joining us? http://t.co/1uMttjDN9C #ukedchat Regularly use Personalised RAG LO cards and visit them at key points during lesson. Kids enjoy process of making visual progress #ukedchat This sounds like it's about grain size. I think a LO for teacher is essential each day. But for children should be longer term. #ukedchat #ukedchat LO's can be very broad and vague. Changing the context keeps the learning fresh and embeds learning. 1/2 @ICTmagic do ofsted want to see progress in terms of chn meeting the intended/stated LO? #ukedchat To my mind, the CEFR for modern languages is one of the closest to an 'ideal' way of approaching "levels" of learning... #ukedchat I'm interested to hear what you do (or you are made to do) for LOs etc & what you would change? #ukedchat @SPhyD join in with #ukedchat - it's brilliant! LO are useless if they're not reviewed & built upon. Students & teachers need a chance to assess esp after a longer period of time #ukedchat #ukedchat sharing success criteria with individuals as an ongoing process - to give one lo to whole class seems too

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How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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aknill

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joelittlewood

20:18:33

thingsbehindsun

20:18:42

ICTmagic

20:18:45

passionateaboot

20:18:45

MooreLynne1

20:18:47

C_Farr0w

20:18:52

Toryedumacation

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ColinTGraham

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MooreLynne1 LPerformance ICTmagic aangeli

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DevhutiNarshi

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Westylish piersyoung fullonlearning

general an approach @Jivespin #ukedchat mine write one LO linked to most recent data and allows longer term progress but allowed to aim higher. #ukedchat 2/2 eg 'using commas in a list' has been a LO several times, but the changing context keeps it fresh and consolidates Many teachers cite 'varied activities' as sign of a good lesson. No, single activity can be worthwhile + several can be worthless #ukedchat @feedyour_brain A lovely insight (but use the #UKedchat hashtag so everyone can see it). @mrjonesICT #ISMTweetmeet I'm tweeting from Malta. I'm out here coaching & mentoring teachers & keeping in touch #ukedchat #ukedchat @only1andymoore is a much better teacher than me so just asked him. He said paired talk to get WALT & WILF into pupil language... @ICTmagic display them to students in every lesson. Unnecessary in some lessons, useful in others. #ukedchat LOs WALTs etc. All useless. Pupils need to memorise long lists every lesson. #RoteIsRight #ukedchat @tobyholman And the outcome, or not, is the measure of achievement...It's the "or not" which concerns me with summative assessment #ukedchat #ukedchat & relating all feedback to WALT & WILFs OL? Or LO? Oh dear. I need another coffee! #ukedchat @ChrisChivers2 Super. I agree completely :) #DevilsAdvocate #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: 'SO THAT'--> http://t.co/f1mBPqo2TN #ukedchat RT @N4LYO: One of the best #SATS answers I've ever had #teaching #exams #funny #ukedchat #science http://t.co/O3UI5aouvI I reckon the same's true with learning #ukedchat http://t.co/SfJdWJQLDG Possibly a daft question but is enthusiasm for a subject ever a Learning Objective? #ukedchat Assessing impact of teaching ON learning much clearer if 'students can (x) as a result of pedagogy (y)' #ukedchat

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20:20:08 20:20:08 20:20:09 passionateaboot ICTmagic iChrisLehman

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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KerryPulleyn

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ColinTGraham lulasticblog Toryedumacation judeenright

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WoolyBully9

20:20:34

EmmaWrafter

20:20:38 20:20:39 20:20:44 20:20:53

judeenright LPerformance ICTmagic feedyour_brain

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passionateaboot

20:21:03

ICTmagic

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tobyholman shornymorgan

@ukedchat @ictmagic Just joining #ukedchat tonight from Malta. We're 1 hour ahead here so hope I've got the time right. @feedyour_brain In that case - Welcome! #UKedchat @joelittlewood I question if should be bigger - attach a purpose. Commas in a list to... show tension? Explain clearly a point. #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Most common mistake I see teachers make when designing a curriculum is to specify activities not learning. LO's should help. @ICTmagic Should I mention MILFs again, Martin? ;-) Do we all know the acronyms being used? #ukedchat RT @kateonthinice: Still looking for blogs by primary literacy teachers #ukedchat @ICTmagic @ChrisChivers2 Yes it does matter. Gove is the only lesson.#ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: 'SO THAT'--> http://t.co/f1mBPqo2TN #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: Bored with the same old same old way of introducing LOs? 50 ways to lead your lesson http://t.co/pQC2iil2Ca #ukedchat It's important to think about age too though. And how much do they want to see LO? @c_farr0w @ICTmagic #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: SO THAT 'breaks' the learning SO THAT the outcome is clear. Clarity of outcome enhanced by Success Criteria #ukedchat Ha! Love that! @Westylish #ukedchat @ClareBrunet Sounds good. Do you have more info/links? @chrischivers2 @debrakidd #ukedchat @ICTmagic child generated success criteria unlocks the door to a secret garden of learning #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: Bored with the same old same old way of introducing LOs? 50 ways to lead your lesson http://t.co/pQC2iil2Ca #ukedchat RT @feedyour_brain: @ICTmagic child generated success criteria unlocks the door to a secret garden of learning #ukedchat @ColinTGraham Even if outcome is not met, progress and learning can still be measured #ukedchat I use enquiry questions to base lessons and sequences on - kids can contribute to adapting my plans as we go - more

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20:21:19 20:21:19 20:21:20 20:21:23 passionateaboot yesiamemmab LPerformance ICTmagic

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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ColinTGraham

20:21:51

judeenright

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Toryedumacation ChrisChivers2

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fullonlearning

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aknill

20:22:40

ChrisChivers2

20:22:48

SEN_it

20:23:00

ICTmagic

20:23:02

ColinTGraham

20:23:03

KerryPulleyn

20:23:07

LPerformance

free @ICTmagic #ukedchat @LearningSpy Which one is your favourite? #ukedchat So long as chdn. Know whether or not they've met the LO or the success criteria, otherwise definitely no point! #ukedchat Should be if its not! @piersyoung #ukedchat RT @EmmaWrafter: It's important to think about age too though. And how much do they want to see LO? @c_farr0w @ICTmagic #ukedchat @EmmaWrafter @c_farr0w @ICTmagic Is it age or is, rather, cognitive development? What about the gifted/more able/less able? #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Assessing impact of teaching ON learning much clearer if 'students can (x) as a result of pedagogy (y)' #ukedchat @iChrisLehman @joelittlewood The point being the magnificence of Gove maybe? #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Learning Objectives for the teacher, Learning Outcomes for the learner #ukedchat @aangeli: @fullonlearning I've used the 'so that' method in primary with I can statements and it's been fabulous! #ukedchat ->excellent! #ukedchat if using a #solo stations approach LO integrated into materials / tasks and children select starting point , then aim to add to RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Most common mistake I see teachers make when designing a curriculum is to specify activities not learning. LO's should help. Heard in a school yesterday "It's important to motivate complex needs children". Is 'The Hook' not important for all learners? #ukedchat @ChrisRaynerd Big questions. Sounds interesting. But are many suggested answers acceptable? How do you combat misconceptions? #ukedchat @tobyholman Yes it can be measured. The question becomes, then, what is the point of the measurement if it finally is ignored...? #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: 'SO THAT'--> http://t.co/f1mBPqo2TN #ukedchat Definitely. @tobyholman @ColinTGraham Sometimes it's better if OL isn't met as it can bring focus on weaker areas #ukedchat

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20:23:25 ICTmagic

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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mrw608

20:23:41

LA_McDermott

20:24:05

fullonlearning

20:24:08

MrGsBrain

20:24:30

judeenright

20:24:36

judeenright

20:24:38

LearningSpy

20:24:41

ColinTGraham

20:24:48

fullonlearning

20:24:51

ICTmagic

20:24:52

judeenright

20:25:08

MrACalvert

20:25:10

truan_steve

20:25:22

tobyholman

RT @fullonlearning: Learning Objectives for the teacher, Learning Outcomes for the learner #ukedchat @iChrisLehman when I say 'answer' I don't nec mean a definitive one. I think learning is more answering Qs than achieving Os... #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Assessing impact of teaching ON learning much clearer if 'students can (x) as a result of pedagogy (y)' #ukedchat Powerful success criteria = 's3' Structured, specific & succinct #ukedchat @EmmaWrafter @c_farr0w @ictmagic #ukedchat think we try + use LO as 'big picture' for the week + use 'I Cans' to break down into daily steps Get on to #ukedchat now - @fullonlearning and @learningspy are in fine form on everyone's favourite topic:learning objectives (&outcomes). RT @LearningSpy: Bored with the same old same old way of introducing LOs? 50 ways to lead your lesson http://t.co/pQC2iil2Ca #ukedchat @passionateaboot Depends how I'm feeling variety is the spice of life. But I do have a soft spot for this http://t.co/wX5b6fKdNJ #ukedchat @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic Differentiation is the major problem, particularly for maths!, but it's not insurmountable. #ukedchat RT @MrGsBrain: @EmmaWrafter @c_farr0w @ictmagic #ukedchat think we try + use LO as 'big picture' for the week + use 'I Cans' to break down into daily steps @debrakidd Can you marry a flexible, child-led lesson/curriculum with needing to reach a distination? @chrischivers2 #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Powerful success criteria = 's3' Structured, specific & succinct #ukedchat #ukedchat we use Learn and Do. Learn for traditional LOs and Do for the activities to be done in lesson. Students and LSAs find them helpful Structuring LO through De Bono hats good as well. Blue hat = overall. Green = new learning. Yellow = progress etc #ukedchat @LPerformance @ColinTGraham Agreed. A student putting effort in (+ not achieving) can mean far more than the coasting student #ukedchat

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20:25:25 20:25:56 mrjkwilson aangeli

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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ColinTGraham

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LearningSpy

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ChrisChivers2

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CharHarAgain

20:26:27

KerryPulleyn

20:26:29

brittwright22

20:26:40

ICTmagic

20:26:44

MohammedSidat

20:26:44

MooreLynne1

20:26:48

GettingFittt

20:26:48

formerfatguyy

20:27:00

ColinTGraham

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shornymorgan MrNorthice

In KS4 what do people prefer and why: folders or exercise books? #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Powerful success criteria = 's3' Structured, specific & succinct #ukedchat @ICTmagic @debrakidd @chrischivers2 Yes, if you know what you are doing and have the support of the 'admin' etc. #ukedchat @ColinTGraham @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic I HATE differentiated objectives! They are a definition of low expectations #ukedchat @debrakidd @ICTmagic If you have no idea of destination, you might get part way, run out of time and have to abandon. #ukedchat RT @MrACalvert: #ukedchat we use Learn and Do. Learn for traditional LOs and Do for the activities to be done in lesson. Students and LSAs find them helpful RT @fullonlearning: Powerful success criteria = 's3' Structured, specific & succinct #ukedchat @ICTmagic are we allowed to question that! ? Ha, I don't have a clue - I just do it because I'm told to - #depressing #ukedchat If LOs etc are flexable, even within the lesson, how can you see/measure/mark for learning that has happened. Should we? #ukedchat @oldandrewuk true. You set the activities around the lo. #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Most common mistake I see teachers make when designing a curriculum is to specify activities not learning. LO's should help. National Walk to School Week coming up next week, will you be walking? :) http://t.co/qpn773dIFG #ukedchat http://t.co/mmdVFbmCpT National Walk to School Week coming up next week, will you be walking? :) http://t.co/iKd4r79aLY #ukedchat http://t.co/lfHPnYIlNV @LearningSpy @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic I'm saying the content should be differentiated, not the objectives... #ukedchat @ICTmagic @debrakidd @ChrisChivers2 I use targets from marking as individual LOs sometimes and it works really well #ukedchat #engchat Writing LOs in books is facile. For some kids it's just busy

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20:27:34 20:27:38 20:27:57

ICTmagic fullonlearning passionateaboot

20:27:59

debrakidd

20:28:01 20:28:02 20:28:05

ColinTGraham fullonlearning ah_redtheatre

20:28:12 20:28:17

daveterron jamesaharrisonn

20:28:25

Dandan7171

20:28:27

shornymorgan

20:28:40

judeenright

20:29:00

LearningSpy

20:29:02

thingsbehindsun

20:29:06 20:29:08

BinaryDigit1 ICTmagic

work, for others it consumes precious time they use to write <1 line. #ukedchat @ChrisChivers2 Is half a journey worth taking? @debrakidd #ukedchat Clarity of success criteria communicate high expectations to learners #ukedchat http://t.co/a3QLRkIq7N @LearningSpy This is great, I'm going to share this with some teachers in Malta tomorrow #ukedchat @ICTmagic @chrischivers2 Yes but it's very highly skilled work - why deep pedagogy and proper teacher training are so important. #ukedchat @LearningSpy @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic Ideally, each student should be pushed to "just beyond" where they are now... #ukedchat @MohammedSidat #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: Bored with the same old same old way of introducing LOs? 50 ways to lead your lesson http://t.co/pQC2iil2Ca #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Powerful success criteria = 's3' Structured, specific & succinct #ukedchat Exactly so! RT @Westylish: I reckon the same's true with learning #ukedchat http://t.co/SfJdWJQLDG Systems such as those mentioned are quite often suggested by people that don't actually do the job! #ukedchat keep it real! @ICTmagic Plenaries to incorporate all learning for each indivdiual - they will learn similar things, but also often different too #ukedchat @SEN_it #ukedchat Of course it is. It is just that children with less complex needs are better at hiding the fact they're taking nothing in! @ColinTGraham @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic Well that's OK then. Far too many folks forced to differentiate LOs recently. Sucks #ukedchat All the acronyms best suited to primary ed? Nothing wrong with that but are WALTs needed when pupils preparing for university? #ukedchat Active obj which r integrated within lesson, not just at the start & end #ukedchat Anyone using the Must, Should, Could to stage LOs? #ukedchat

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20:29:30 iChrisLehman

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20:29:37

MohammedSidat

20:29:56

passionateaboot

20:30:02

MartindalePaul

20:30:12

KateBoot

20:30:20

mrjonesICT

20:30:47

ChrisChivers2

20:30:51

ICTmagic

20:31:00

MrGsBrain

20:31:16

merryemb

20:31:25 20:31:36

shornymorgan BinaryDigit1

20:31:48

feedyour_brain

20:32:05

ICTmagic

20:32:09

fullonlearning

@ICTmagic More about tracking individual growth against longer term objective I think. Goal for 6 weeks, say. Assess along way. #ukedchat @EmmaWrafter lo set by the teacher would mean the teacher would be leading the lesson. And lesson will go a lot smoother. #ukedchat @isademalte it's #ukedchat time if you want to take part in a discussion about education Reading http://t.co/PKLz4t1byz & about use of drugs in US makes me think we shd stop worrying & start uploading info Matrix-style? #ukedchat #ukedchat dept discussion today shd we use LO or Learning outcomes? t&l team say use differentiated Learning objectives WHAT on ppt :-/ The Harlem Shake State (of matter)! Had a laugh with @Year6_ISM making this 'science' video http://t.co/FzSw1k84Pa #scichat #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Clarity of success criteria communicate high expectations to learners #ukedchat http://t.co/a3QLRkIq7N @iChrisLehman For longer projects, how do you ensure the children don't leave things to the last moment? #ukedchat #ukedchat 'I Can' targets helps me with specific marking. Pink= check and think Green= we like what we've seen' http://t.co/bnUlK0jbss @Totallywired77: Please RT, are there any Design & Technology teachers/students on Twitter? #Ukedchat #edchat #dtchat @_stmarystech Learners should be involved in the identification of the next learning path (objective) wherever possible #ukedchat #ukedchat "copy todays objectives into your book" understanding, engagement, interaction none existent @ICTmagic tried it but didnt work for us so we use child generated success criteria and the teaching of mindsets and challenge #ukedchat @ClareBrunet Not so sure, SMTs seem to like them more! @LearningSpy @colintgraham @emmawrafter @c_farr0w #ukedchat @KateBoot Does this help? Earlier tweet: Learning Objectives for the teacher, Learning Outcomes for the learner #ukedchat

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20:32:12 ColinTGraham

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truan_steve

20:32:39

Jivespin

20:32:42

tomboulter

20:32:46 20:32:54 20:33:09 20:33:16

MohammedSidat ASTsupportAAli LawfordMr truan_steve

20:33:26 20:33:29 20:33:34

ChrisRaynerd ICTmagic LearningSpy

20:33:58

tomboulter

20:33:58 20:33:59 20:34:02 20:34:26

ColinTGraham ICTmagic passionateaboot nicolamagner

20:34:31 20:34:41

MohammedSidat cherrylkd

@LearningSpy @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic For differentiation of content to work, you need to have breadth and open questions #ukedchat RT @BinaryDigit1: #ukedchat "copy todays objectives into your book" understanding, engagement, interaction none existent @ICTmagic @iChrisLehman I set them the task to post what they have done on a Padlet board at set stages of the longer project. #ukedchat good, open-ended, challenging and interesting success criteria are a thing of great beauty and they make a massive difference #ukedchat @MrACalvert learn and do is great. Keeping it Simple for the children. #ukedchat Add ways2show progress in your lesson2this dochttp://t.co/58SmBIrN3X #ukedchat #edchat #elearning #ukedchat so why is using 1,2,3,4...etc better that A,B,C etc?is it not a rose by another name? Anyone have PLTS LO as well as academic learning. We think as important #ukedchat Appreciate LO is needed but lessons with two slides telling students What they will learn.. how much is actually take in?? #ukedchat #edchat @ClareBrunet Because you don't like them? #ukedchat @ClareBrunet @ColinTGraham @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic Ofsted Inspectors need training on why differentiated objectives suck #ukedchat Crude, tokenist, over-complicated, overly-abstract, unmodelled success criteria are worse than a waste of time. #ukedchat @ClareBrunet @LearningSpy @emmawrafter @c_farr0w @ictmagic Not even going to comment on OfSTED and differentiation! ;-0 #ukedchat @LearningSpy Indeed. :/ #ukedchat #ukedchat@ASTsupportAAli Do LO stifle learners leading the lesson? RT @LearningSpy: Learning objectives & why we need em http://t.co/fXIuY7lRyy #ukedchat @LearningSpy totally totally agree with you on differentiated objectives. Lacking children in aiming higher. #ukedchat @fullonlearning: Learning Objectives for the teacher,

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20:34:42

passionateaboot

20:34:50

ColinTGraham

20:34:58

PrimaryClive

20:35:01

ICT_MrP

20:35:05

tutor2uLaw

20:35:13

MrGsBrain

20:35:35

passionateaboot

20:35:38

ColinTGraham

20:35:41

ICTmagic

20:35:48 20:35:57 20:36:07 20:36:13 20:36:22 20:36:38 20:36:42 20:36:48

LearningSpy fullonlearning Charlotte_IRISC tomboulter MohammedSidat SheliBB fullonlearning ColinTGraham

Learning Outcomes for the learner #ukedchat <~ Spot on! @tomboulter So what would you have or do instead, if anything? #ukedchat @LearningSpy @ClareBrunet @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic It's about understanding "our students did this, at these levels" #ukedchat @ICTmagic yes, we do. Differentiated across the APP grid. KS2 mark against them too. KS1 we tend to mark re: LO #ukedchat iPads in the Primary Classroom - What is it all about? An introductory session - http://t.co/MGxKTx8vpT places still available #ukedchat Add ways2show progress in your lesson2this doc- read the other responses? http://t.co/ShclyiR0JZ #ukedchat #edchat #elearning @MohammedSidat: @MrACalvert learn and do is great. Keeping it Simple for the children #ukedchat THE thing to ask 'what did you LEARN?!' @cherrylkd What happens if the pupils dont achieve their outcomes - how will that make them feel? #ukedchat @LearningSpy @ClareBrunet @EmmaWrafter @C_Farr0w @ICTmagic "Therefore, this is how they differentiate themselves"... but... :-/ #ukedchat If you are setting LOs etc - Should there be (to misquote musketeers) one for all, or many that are differentiated? #ukedchat @MohammedSidat Differentiated objectives = enemies of promise #ukedchat Powerful LOs drive the learning when directly informed by prior learning #ukedchat In Birmingham ahead of #naht2013 with @Graham_IRISC - he is engrossed in #ukedchat I shall have to join in! @passionateaboot I do it like this http://t.co/cldMZVXsku but there are loads of ways, this only one. #ukedchat @MrNorthice so true. Esp with esl students who spend ages writing. All they write is the objective! #ukedchat @ICTmagic nope, but I use 'I can ...' as a heading for lots of maths work. Sets the tone :-) #ukedchat @passionateaboot @cherrylkd ...That they need to persevere? #ukedchat @ICTmagic I've proposed the idea, for maths, that 100

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20:37:05

MrBoneY5

20:37:19

KMarlow1

20:37:37

ICTmagic

20:37:40

ColinTGraham

20:37:41 20:37:53 20:37:53 20:38:07 20:38:15 20:38:26

cherrylkd fullonlearning passionateaboot mrw608 passionateaboot Mat6453

20:38:39

ColinTGraham

20:38:42 20:38:55

Kerrithomas99 cherrylkd

20:39:00

passionateaboot

20:39:10

SheliBB

20:39:14 20:39:18

ICTmagic Pekabelo

questions/problems are set at the beginning of term that have to be solved...#ukedchat @ICTmagic we do use msc alongside the lo but make sure that the 'could' is achievable by all at their own level. #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: Bored with the same old same old way of introducing LOs? 50 ways to lead your lesson http://t.co/pQC2iil2Ca #ukedchat @SheliBB What if they can't by the end of the lesson/week/project? Have we or the child failed? #ukedchat @ICTmagic the class as a whole has to try to find a solution, or say why one doesn't exist, by the end of the year... too radical! #ukedchat @passionateaboot #ukedchat only just logged on, saw tweet & agree with it. No idea what topic is yet:) Sorry. Will catch up. @Charlotte_IRISC @Graham_IRISC Hello! #ukedchat @tomboulter Thanks for sharing - its quite a long video, so I'll have a look at the end of this #ukedchat I don't remember any sort of learning objectives when I was at school (80s) and did ok! #ukedchat @tomboulter And what do they think of it? #ukedchat Student leadership thoughts http://t.co/VVE27bqxqU #ukedchat Send this to Mr Gove! ;-) RT @mrw608: I don't remember any sort of learning objectives when I was at school (80s) and did ok! #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: Learning objectives & why we need em http://t.co/fXIuY7lRyy #ukedchat @fullonlearning @passionateaboot #ukedchat Still don't know topic but it must mean more work required. @cherrylkd I'm playing catch up too - Im out in Malta working this week, so wasn't even sure I had the time right #ukedchat @ICTmagic no, just means they need more support. But if supported/planned/differentiated carefully they shouldn't fail #ukedchat @debrakidd Indeed. Never impose a glass ceiling. @ChrisChivers2 #ukedchat #ukedchat sorry just got in. Anyone spoke about coconstruction of LOs yet? Have been doing for all KS3 this

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20:39:20 20:39:34 20:39:35 20:39:52 20:40:00 20:40:22

ChrisRaynerd GeorgeEBlack fullonlearning fullonlearning ICTmagic passionateaboot

20:40:31

ICTmagic

20:40:44 20:40:49 20:40:50

ICTmagic passionateaboot HFletcherWood

20:40:50 20:41:05 20:41:23

ColinTGraham GeorgeEBlack fullonlearning

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fullonlearning passionateaboot

20:41:52

ColinTGraham

20:41:58 20:41:59 20:42:02

LPerformance truan_steve feedyour_brain

year. Transformed focus. Slide on LO and slide on PLTS LO and Slide on should, could, must ...Do the students really take this on or is it just for us? #ukedchat #ukedchat. Sorry I'm late... What are we talking about? @passionateaboot @cherrylkd Opportunity to model growth mindset, & address inaccuracies collaboratively informed by SC #ukedchat @cherrylkd @passionateaboot It's fast tonight! #ukedchat @SheliBB Should children be allowed to fail on occasion? If so, when? #ukedchat @ChrisRaynerd Question we should always be asking for what purpose are we doing this? #ukedchat RT @passionateaboot: @cherrylkd What happens if the pupils dont achieve their outcomes - how will that make them feel? #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Powerful LOs drive the learning when directly informed by prior learning #ukedchat @fullonlearning Too fast for me I think......... #ukedchat @ChrisRaynerd We have to get them to do something with it - just looking won't work. For years I had them guessing missing words. #ukedchat Dare I suggest the idea of a portfolio that each learner carries throughout their live - 'properly accredited'...? ;-0 #ukedchat #ukedchat Should children be allowed to fail? Absolutely. @cherrylkd @passionateaboot Oh it's really good tonight...ALL ABOUT LEARNING! LOs & SC #ukedchat @cherrylkd @passionateaboot Hang on in there!! #ukedchat @tomboulter For what purpose though? To feel good or to actually learn? #ukedchat Not just "allowed to", but "expected to"...! RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat Should children be allowed to fail? Absolutely. As a kid I always switched off at that point...@ChrisRaynerd #ukedchat RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat Should children be allowed to fail? Absolutely. @ICTmagic @shelibb all children should fail and choose to challenge themselves #growth mindsets #ukedchat

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20:42:02 20:42:03 cherrylkd Toryedumacation

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20:42:08

unseenflirt

20:42:20

batttuk

20:42:29

HFletcherWood

20:42:32

thelazyteacher

20:42:33

ColinTGraham

20:42:38

SheliBB

20:42:40

ICTmagic

20:42:55

GeorgeEBlack

20:43:00

Toryedumacation

20:43:19

batttuk

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passionateaboot truan_steve Toryedumacation ICTmagic

20:44:04 20:44:07

MoniseLSeward MrGsBrain

@fullonlearning @passionateaboot Thanks #ukedchat @ColinTGraham don't suggest things. Gove tells you things, you do them. #Ukedchat Man, I was teaching lessons about Jay-Z echoing Gatsby in '09, now he's executive producing the score the film. #ukedchat #psychicteaching Our 1st #BATTT poster! http://t.co/byX6LMWMSs Print, pin up at work and recruit for the next #BATTT week, 3-7th June. #UKEDCHAT Please RT! @ICTmagic @SheliBB Yes! Then supported to go beyond it- push for a growth mindset - so they change strategy or increase effort #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Assessing impact of teaching ON learning much clearer if 'students can (x) as a result of pedagogy (y)' #ukedchat @Toryedumacation But he has to tell me in Latin! #ukedchat @ICTmagic all chdn shld be allowed to 'break things',it's how we learn, but shldn't fail or struggle so often that it puts em off #ukedchat If you did (or have) explained LOs and success critia to your class, how would you do it? #ukedchat RT @unseenflirt: Man, I was teaching lessons about Jay-Z echoing Gatsby in '09, now he's executive producing the score the film. #ukedchat #psychicteaching @GeorgeEBlack #Ukedchat All of them apart from ones who go to oxbridge. Want to be our next poster boy/girl, like @TeacherTweaks? Let us know! http://t.co/JQbOBXssSq #BATTT #BATTTUK #UKEDCHAT Pls RT! @yesiamemmab So is it worth putting them up and exposing even 1 child to failure? #ukedchat #ukedchat opportunity to fail and take risks essential http://t.co/aoC0vdIUQ5 @unseenflirt you should teach Middlemarch. #Ukedchat @SheliBB If we never fail, won't we get used to that & not be able to accept it later in life (I wouldn't know of course!) #ukedchat RT @ColinTGraham: Not just "allowed to", but "expected to"...! RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat Should children be allowed to fail? Absolutely. @MrACalvert @MohammedSidat a good way of seeing it.

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20:44:12

fullonlearning

20:44:13

shornymorgan

20:44:36

passionateaboot

20:45:14

ColinTGraham

20:45:15

ICTmagic

20:45:16

digitaldaisies

20:45:16

fullonlearning

20:45:26

HFletcherWood

20:45:30

Toryedumacation

20:45:32

EmmaWrafter

20:45:35

passionateaboot

20:45:43

Kezmerrelda

20:45:45

Debsgf

20:45:49 20:45:50 20:45:56

LPerformance ICTmagic robfmac

Fluidity in a rigid system of anal targets. I will take that from tonight ;) #ukedchat RT @truan_steve: #ukedchat opportunity to fail and take risks essential http://t.co/aoC0vdIUQ5 I don't explain LOs -they do that in a variety of ways, different each lesson. They create success criteria for work too @ICTmagic #ukedchat @tomboulter I was hoping you'd say that, and so how do you structure the feedback in relation to the LOs? #ukedchat @SheliBB @ICTmagic Ah, that's the key! Failure vs frustration... frustration & failure are necessary. Neither should be absolute. #ukedchat @TeacherTechnol But do you find that the same group children always 'could'? #ukedchat @LearningSpy: I do have a soft spot for this http://t.co/Qz7kI0aoSj" me too, really help my students + I enjoy making them! #ukedchat Failing is the richest ground to grow learning (or something a lot less cheesy than that!) #ukedchat @ICTmagic Used to get them to guess missing words; now they also self-assess at start & end, giving evidence + set their own LO. #ukedchat @shornymorgan @ICTmagic Only LO worth following is learning lists of Govey choice. #Ukedchat And is it any different now? You go on a course - what do you remember? What is important? @lperformance @ChrisRaynerd #ukedchat @yesiamemmab Yes, and I know all effective teachers do that. So how do you present your LOs? #ukedchat #ukedchat ks1 we do active punctuation 2remind of success criteria in piece writing. Have action 4all sorts. Full stops, openers, verbs etc #ukedchat still chatting merits of LOs? They should be for pupils, but need ensure they are for pupils, not for staff work scrutinies. I like this one for inspiration :) @Westylish #ukedchat http://t.co/0GorlRHmtw @fullonlearning Cheesy is fine when the point is well made. #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Failing is the richest ground to grow learning (or something a lot less cheesy than that!)

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20:46:08

tomboulter

20:46:12

LearningSpy

20:46:14

SF3Foundation

20:46:21

mrw608

20:46:25 20:46:31 20:46:39

ColinTGraham Toryedumacation Westylish

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w_knox123

20:46:40

ICTmagic

20:46:44 20:46:51

HoDTeacher passionateaboot

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Debsgf

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Kezmerrelda HoDTeacher

20:47:01

LPerformance

20:47:08

ethinking

20:47:08

tomboulter

#ukedchat AFL - from pale to pure - bits on success criteria here: http://t.co/NGgFDr0ALy #ukedchat Instead of the travesty of differentiated objectives, instead offer multiple ways to meet LOs with well planned success criteria #ukedchat RT @EdNewsorg School recess is good for kids' mental health, writes @JuliaSteiny http://t.co/olLpeP831U #edchat #ukedchat #education Did this #ukedchat session have a LO? Do we have a success criteria? do we need one to learn? Are we learning tonight? How do you handle the "I could" but "I won't" types - in relation to learning outcomes? #ukedchat @fullonlearning You are letting our children rot. #Ukedchat RT @LPerformance: I like this one for inspiration :) @Westylish #ukedchat http://t.co/0GorlRHmtw RT @unseenflirt: Man, I was teaching lessons about Jay-Z echoing Gatsby in '09, now he's executive producing the score the film. #ukedchat #psychicteaching RT @Debsgf: #ukedchat still chatting merits of LOs? They should be for pupils, but need ensure they are for pupils, not for staff work scrutinies. #ukedchat using MWBs the criteria are flexible. Make explicit once achieved, " @yesiamemmab How else could you present LOs rather than verbally? #ukedchat #ukedchat we need to allow pupils to reflect on their learning, not be afraid to take risks and fail. That's how we prepare them for life. @ColinTGraham @georgeeblack important to acknowledge when we fail or don't know too! #ukedchat #ukedchat "Brilliant, we have done everything I wanted today, if you can get this next one it is a bonus" Yup. I remember thinking "get on with it." But they were helpful for revision as it helped focus the topics! @ChrisRaynerd #ukedchat #ukedchat so Beckham has retired - fergie and scholes are off too : LO discussion is cyclical & boring @passionateaboot via the success criteria - they do they work, we look at it alongside the SC, we work out how to improve it... #ukedchat

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20:47:18 20:47:27 20:47:31 20:47:37 Graham_IRISC Mat6453 Toryedumacation yesiamemmab

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

20:47:47

shornymorgan

20:47:54

passionateaboot

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PEScholar

20:48:02

PrimaryClive

20:48:05 20:48:17

fullonlearning Tiffybum

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ICTmagic

20:48:18 20:48:23 20:48:28

Debsgf Toryedumacation tomboulter

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MohammedSidat

20:48:42

LPerformance

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Kezmerrelda passionateaboot

RT @truan_steve: #ukedchat opportunity to fail and take risks essential http://t.co/aoC0vdIUQ5 Getting back in the game tomorrow, now the wife is definitely on the mend. Look out T&L #ukedchat @LearningSpy Instead of ruining children's futures do what Gove says quietly. #Ukedchat #ukedchat but what else would go at the top of te age under the date??!! RT @Debsgf: #ukedchat we need to allow pupils to reflect on their learning, not be afraid to take risks and fail. That's how we prepare them for life. @tomboulter Do they do that for each other? For themselves? #ukedchat RT: @LizzyMyers "Behaviour Change - Behavioural Dynamics Institute" video at http://t.co/OjTYZ6YpID #Education #UKEdChat Please RT @ukedchat @ICTmagic we've used 'steps to success' to explain SC. LO explain as 'what you will be able to do/know by the end of the lesson' #ukedchat LOs need to accommodate possibility of learners exceeding expected learning outcomes #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: Learning objectives & why we need em http://t.co/fXIuY7lRyy #ukedchat @TeacherTechnol Interesting point. Can you give an example of a good 'could' which you have used recently? #ukedchat @AJayMarriott It's a waste of learning time, getting pupils to copy. But that's what some SLG want to see when they open books. #ukedchat @mrw608 Are you this wet in the classroom? #Ukedchat SC need to be set for individual tasks, not 'whole lesson'; do fewer tasks, but set them up better and see them through. #ukedchat @ChrisRaynerd @mrw608 agree that some teachers spend a lot of time on it. Better to spend time on various engaging activities. #ukedchat Good point. I never remember the LO @EmmaWrafter @ChrisRaynerd More the interesting points or activities... #ukedchat @ICT_MrP although chdn don't compete for points do a similar ks1 friendly self assess grid to yrs #ukedchat @fullonlearning So are LOs relevant then if they allow for

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feedyour_brain

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HFletcherWood

20:49:28

Tiffybum

20:49:35 20:49:52 20:49:55 20:50:02

LearningSpy ICTmagic Toryedumacation AndrewManson1

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tomboulter

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Pekabelo LPerformance brownh1971 ICTmagic passionateaboot nicoladarling78

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ChrisRaynerd

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Toryedumacation Pekabelo LPerformance EmmaWrafter

flexibility? What is the purpose of LOs? #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: Failing is the richest ground to grow learning (or something a lot less cheesy than that!) #ukedchat @fullonlearning Agreed, but I'm still struggling to work out how to do this consistently - what do you do? #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: Bored with the same old same old way of introducing LOs? 50 ways to lead your lesson http://t.co/pQC2iil2Ca #ukedchat @Toryedumacation Hmm. Simon says performance related pay will improve standards? #ukedchat nuh uh 11 minutes to go... Do LOs help you assess (Formative or summative) your pupils? How? #ukedchat @Debsgf You need to expect from yourself and pupils. #Ukedchat Do you design materials then look for the LO fit, or are you compelled to design materials to fit LO? #ukedchat @fullonlearning YES - I like phrasing such as 'with increasing precision' - can't ever actually be achieved / ticked off #ukedchat @fullonlearning LOs should always leave a gap for more! #ukedchat That is awesome!! @Westylish "you gotta back yourself" is my new motto! #ukedchat #ukedchat. Good to personalise success criteria and involve students insetting them @TeacherTechnol Are the children involved in the process? If so, how? #ukedchat @tomboulter Do the pupils ever set the LOs? #ukedchat @ICT_MrP http://t.co/7AQBSGu99f #ukedchat Wow, this is fab and links so well with what I am currently trying to do! Thanks for sharing! @EmmaWrafter @LPerformance Yes-You don't remember what they tell you they are going to teach u, u remember what they TeACh you! #ukedchat @LPerformance @EmmaWrafter @ChrisRaynerd You should be remembering facts and dates. #Ukedchat @tomboulter @fullonlearning totally agree Tom. #ukedchat RT @mrw608: Did this #ukedchat session have a LO? Do we have a success criteria? do we need one to learn? Are we learning tonight? Yeah the quality of teaching much more important. And

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ColinTGraham

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fullonlearning LPerformance HFletcherWood

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truan_steve nicoladarling78 GeorgeEBlack

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LPerformance

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Toryedumacation

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shornymorgan

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brownh1971

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ethinking

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ColinTGraham LPerformance yesiamemmab

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mattbritland MWimpennyS HFletcherWood

enjoyment. But then SMT will have diff measure! @lperformance @ChrisRaynerd #ukedchat I've found that older learners respond well to giving feedback to each other (anonymously) on "whatever" with a structured documnt #ukedchat @HFletcherWood Agree. Really tough...working on this with a group of teachers at the moment #ukedchat Ha ha!! Touch @mrw608 :) #ukedchat @AndrewManson1 Surely the latter... unless it's something unbelievably compelling as a material #ukedchat LO and SC are a scaffold for effective questioning - never a glass ceiling #ukedchat @Kezmerrelda @ICT_MrP I would love to see the Ks1 friendly grid? #ukedchat On maternity leave atm, so #ukedchat is keeping me in the game... What a good one tonight! RT @Debsgf: #ukedchat we need to allow pupils to reflect on their learning, not be afraid to take risks and fail. That's how we prepare them for life. @EmmaWrafter @LPerformance @ChrisRaynerd Nobody needs to enjoy school. #Ukedchat When LOs are based on targets, yes they can help. Also assess general LOs through AfL at end as a class / exit tickets @ICTmagic #ukedchat #ukedchat Important for students to self or peer assess themselves against success criteria- helps them develop responsibility for outcomes #ukedchat good programme about MIT and new technologies on radio 4 at moment Learners also tend to be their own worst critics too, when it comes to assessing how they did, if targets were set beforehand. #ukedchat Bingo! @ChrisRaynerd @EmmaWrafter #ukedchat LOs MUST be clear and concise to be worthwhile.Not just waffle teacher talk;makes it easy to mark and chn. See next step #ukedchat RT @ethinking: #ukedchat good programme about MIT and new technologies on radio 4 at moment @Debsgf why copy LOs into books when they can take pictures on BYOD or iPads #ukedchat #BYOD @fullonlearning I've started asking them to set their own

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20:53:17

fullonlearning

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shornymorgan passionateaboot teachthinklearn

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EmmaWrafter

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Pekabelo

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fullonlearning

20:53:42

HFletcherWood

20:53:52

ColinTGraham

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ah_redtheatre fullonlearning Toryedumacation

20:54:04

ICTmagic

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unseenflirt

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ethinking passionateaboot

additional objective but need to get them to think more deeply about... #ukedchat @HFletcherWood There's some good responses on the #ukedchat thread, though! Asking learners to set their own goals & then push for more RT @brownh1971: #ukedchat Important for students to self or peer assess themselves against success criteria- helps them develop responsibility for outcomes @tomboulter For what reason? #ukedchat @fullonlearning: 'SO THAT'--> http://t.co/aQ3VOVNCgw #ukedchat Interesting blog post thank you @fullonlearning @toryedumacation @LPerformance @EmmaWrafter @ChrisRaynerd depends on what subject is and if tested. #ukedchat what about other skills... @tomboulter @fullonlearning we have an 'off the scale' award for students who go beyond what the LOs cover in Pebble. #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: @fullonlearning LOs should always leave a gap for more! #ukedchat @fullonlearning ...what progress is for them individually. Have you/could you share any of the material you're working with? #ukedchat Why not just have the learners using the NC itself and map their own progress against it? It's just a guideline, after all! ;-) #ukedchat RT @fullonlearning: 'SO THAT'--> http://t.co/f1mBPqo2TN #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: @tomboulter @fullonlearning totally agree Tom. #ukedchat @ethinking stop trying to change the subject. LOs are important. Gove loves you. #Ukedchat Do LOs provide a true opportunity for pupils to self reflect & what support do they need to do this effectively? #ukedchat I did a pair of lessons with keywords taken out of the LO, which I let the kids fill in and change as we went along. They loved it #ukedchat #ukedchat can outstanding learning happen without WILF, WALT & LO ? @brownh1971 And how do they feel about it when you ask them to? #ukedchat

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20:54:26 ChrisChivers2

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

20:54:34

SaysMiss

20:54:38

GeorgeEBlack

20:54:46

Kezmerrelda

20:55:08

ICTmagic

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LPerformance truan_steve ukedchat ethinking

20:56:26

ColinTGraham

20:56:28

ICTmagic

20:56:38

StrictTeacher99

20:56:40 20:56:46

unseenflirt ICTmagic

20:57:04

ethinking

20:57:07

DeputyMitchell

20:57:22

ClerktoGovernor

RT @brownh1971: #ukedchat Important for students to self or peer assess themselves against success criteria- helps them develop responsibility for outcomes @ICTmagic LO is always a big question for them to answer. Fosters curiousity at outset & demonstrates progress without box ticking #ukedchat I do all, most, some LOs which give students goals they can choose. #ukedchat #ukedchat in maths at end have LO on Iwb & kids drag their icon into circle either I can do this or I need more help. Gd sa record for me RT @ethinking: #ukedchat can outstanding learning happen without WILF, WALT & LO ? RT @ICTmagic: Do LOs provide a true opportunity for pupils to self reflect & what support do they need to do this effectively? #ukedchat @SaysMiss spot on - fav tweet all night!! #ukedchat Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts? #ukedchat the worship of LO WALT & WILF is the act of an average teacher trying to be better....it's managerialist tosh The follow-up to WILF and WALT is clearly WDILT - What did I learn today? without that the "circle" is incomplete. #ukedchat @TeacherTechnol Some of my best and worse typos happen at 5am. :) #ukedchat So, what's the best question you ve been asked at an interview? What's the best question YOU asked? #UKedchat #REleaders #reteacher #tes #NameSomethingYouDontLikeThatEveryoneElseLikes 'Progress' #ukedchat RT @GeorgeEBlack: I do all, most, some LOs which give students goals they can choose. #ukedchat #ukedchat @ClareBrunet if yes, does this mean that LO WALT WILF are the language of mediocre managerialism ? @ethinking #ukedchat It can also be the worship of an out of touch HT or SLT applying pressure for a certain model/menu of teaching. RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Most common mistake I see teachers make when designing a curriculum is to specify activities not learning. LO's should help.

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20:57:42 20:57:53 20:58:26 SaysMiss tomboulter shornymorgan

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

20:58:34

passionateaboot

20:58:35 20:58:37 20:58:44

tstarkey1212 unseenflirt MWimpennyS

20:58:44

ethinking

20:58:45

tomboulter

20:58:52

ColinTGraham

20:58:55

EmmaWrafter

20:59:04

SaysMiss

20:59:33

HFletcherWood

20:59:47 21:00:17 21:00:20

truan_steve ICTmagic ClareBrunet

21:00:33

LPerformance

LO give you direction, not restriction. Learning WILL happen, but this provides a WHAT #ukedchat @passionateaboot I'm the teacher? #ukedchat Final LO thoughts: let learners create them, use enquiry questions linked to overall aim of SoL, ask at end what LO was -variety! #ukedchat @tomboulter And they're the learners #ukedchat Who's learning is it? RT @unseenflirt: #NameSomethingYouDontLikeThatEveryoneElseLikes 'Progress' #ukedchat Love growth, need progress, hate 'progression' #ukedchat @ICTmagic I always have LO as "To be able" and outcomes as "I can, I will and I know" I find looking at Blooms always helps. #ukedchat #ukedchat an outstanding teacher was once observed using a LO. QED all outstanding teaching must have a LO = easy to monitor for management @ShelleyLewis01 I've got some training here but I warn you it goes on a bit! Got carried away. http://t.co/cldMZVXsku #ukedchat Learners should be directing their own outcomes, with informed consent as appropriate, to my mind. Full stop. Period. #ukedchat Plan, but be flexible. Listen to students, make it engaging & memorable. TEACH! Be creative with reporting to SMT. ;) @ukedchat #ukedchat @truan_steve thanks!easiest way to provide students with a differentiated outcome- they choose the extent to which they respond #ukedchat Final thoughts #ukedchat:LOs are a huge aid to student understanding & purpose & teacher planning- if used as thoughtful tools not tickboxes Surely the whole purpose of a LO is to ....#ukedchat http://t.co/a1S5qWNFfz @Elmlea1981 You should ask @NaomiStears. She is the font of all book knowledge at my school. #ukedchat RT @truan_steve: Surely the whole purpose of a LO is to ....#ukedchat http://t.co/a1S5qWNFfz I'm not sure I like the words LO - restrictive & dull. So I use 'goals' to jazz it up. Kids pay more attention & focuses them! #ukedchat

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21:00:41 ethinking

How LOs, WALTs, WILFs, success critria etc are used to aid learning?

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ukedchat

#ukedchat learning can only occur if a LO is in existence, somewhere..... It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @ICTmagic for hosting tonights #ukedchat. The archive will be at http://t.co/QRIqrgwlFc soon.

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