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Gue st Poste d: Mon Fe b 21, 2005 1:17 am
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What is the best way to take the bark off. Do I have to remove the bark off the log before I turn it or can I just turn it off. Is this to hard on the chisels or not? And can you recomend some good turning books to get so I can learn better ways and skills. Thanks
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Gue st Poste d: Mon Fe b 21, 2005 2:00 am Post subje ct: R e : re m ove bark off a tre e log
You'll often save headaches by removing it before turning. Specifically, dirt collected in the bark tends to dull your tools faster than cutting clean wood, and chunks of bark flying off can hurt. Neither means that you can't, or even "shouldn't" turn with the bark on, just things to be aware of. Depending when the tree was cut, and how fast you get to it, bark removal methods range from "falls off by itself", through "peels off by hand" up to "cut off tediously with a drawknife". -Cats, Coffee, Chocolate...vices to live by
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Some have a thin bark that is a PITA to take off before turning, so I leave it on.. Walnut bark is pretty easy to pry off, and saves a lot of cleanup later as it flies all over the shop in large sections if you leave it on.. I've been turning a lot of green pine lately, and I'm using a chisel and rubber mallet to remove as much bark as possible, to avoid the mess and shower of water... pine sap is bad enough to deal with, but wet, sticky bark all over the lathe, chisels and shop are not a good thing.. *g*
I use both a hand axe, and a flat bar nail puller with hammer to pry and chip off the bark. If I don't take it off, I make sure to stand out of the line of fire when turning until all of the bark is off. robo hippy
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Gue st Poste d: Tue Fe b 22, 2005 9:53 pm Post subje ct: R e : re m ove bark off a tre e log
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a log cabin builder i know uses a spud (very large chisel about 4 feet long) on pine. i used to use a drawknife if the tree was green, but if the tree has been cut any length of time this method really sucks. turning "bark on" can produce some pretty pieces, but if you do then expect some out of balance turns and to sharpen tools more often. i wonder how sawmills do it? i think they have a machine that gnaws at the bark ...kind of
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bark ...kind of grinds it like a coffee grinder. rich "Camoman" <Noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:%e6Sd.6237$RM2.3235@read1.cgocable.net...
Quote: What is the best way to take the bark off. Do I have to remove the bark off the log before I turn it or can I just turn it off. Is this to hard on the chisels or not? And can you recomend some good turning books to get so I can learn better ways and skills. Thanks
I've only toured one saw mill, but it seemed to me that most of the bark was removed with high pressure water... It was maybe 20+ years ago, so I could be "mis-remembering".. *g*
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Debarkers are pretty much burr mills. Log is rotated into rotating burrs to clear off the bulk of the bark. My answer? It's one sharpening at most, so what's firm can stay there until I cut it away. I stay safely out of the line of fire. Then there's birch, where the flapping mess can whip your knuckles raw before you can reach the switch to turn off the lathe.
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Gue st Poste d: W e d Fe b 23, 2005 2:19 am Post subje ct: R e : re m ove bark off a tre e log
res055a5 wrote:
Quote: a log cabin builder i know uses a spud (very large chisel about 4 feet long) on pine. i used to use a drawknife if the tree was green, but if the tree has been cut any length of time this method really sucks. turning "bark on" can produce some pretty pieces, but if you do then expect some out of balance turns and to sharpen tools more often. i wonder how sawmills do it? i think they have a machine that gnaws at the bark ...kind of
There is a "de-barker" in sawmills and wood processing plants. Some I have seen do indeed "gnaw" at the bark and shred it -- more or less. The de-barker may be a little expensive for in-home use.
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Quote: I've only toured one saw mill, but it seemed to me that most of the bark was removed with high pressure water... i wonder if the home version pressure washers will remove bark? it would be
cold work sometimes of the year, but what a savings on your back! when i used a draw knife, it took quite a while to clean a 20 foot log and the work was easy because the log was fresh fallen, but you did have to do a lot of deep bending/kneeling. maybe all that could be avoided by putting the log up on saw horses, etc. on some species you could probably peel away some of the sapwood with a high pressure washer. and by wetting down the log you could probably help prevent some checking...at the lumber mills i've been to they use sprinklers to keep the logs wet or float them in ponds. Do lumber mills cut off logs to standard lengths before sawing them into rough boards? if so, then that might be a source of turning wood. rich
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Gue st Poste d: W e d Fe b 23, 2005 11:02 pm Post subje ct: R e : re m ove bark off a tre e log
"BE" spray-painted on the ends. That means "Birdseye!" They're normally only 10" long trims. They also have the centers of peeled veneer logs, but that's rarely worth more than the firewood price. www.woodworking-online.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16309
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that's rarely worth more than the firewood price. At least here the practice of allowing civilians to carry away trims has fallen prey to liability concerns. The trims have to go through a reseller, which makes them older, more end-checked, and if compared to the price of cordwood, expensive.
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