ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:00 20:00:10 20:00:24 @ukedchat @gceyre @s_armitage

Imparting knowledge - What ways can we get students to learn factual knowledge?

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Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @gceyre What ways can we get students to learn factual knowledge? Welcome to #ukedchat ! Blog post: On a virtual journey with my class and #iPad. #ukedchat #mlearning #edchat #googlehangout http://cambridgelearning.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/globa l-learning-journey/ Welcome to tonight's chat, please remember to use the hash tag #ukedchat @s_holyoake: @SPFSchools pic.twitter.com/NmTYXwACBh Fun in Pre-prep #ukedchat To start with lets keep it broad; how can we get student to learn factual knowledge? #ukedchat http://blender.org - Free & Open 3D creation software. & http://blenderswap.com templates directory #ukedtech #ukedchat Next week is National Teaching Assistants Day. Mark your calendar for 16th September #ukedchat Trying to find apps to help with number recognition and formation? Are there any people could recommend? #ukedchat Isn't it ATTENTION + EXPERIENCE = MEMORY or something as simple as that? #ukedchat @gceyre Interesting topic. Will be fascinating to know how people approach this. #ukedchat Personally I find it very difficult to teach factual knowledge without lecturing, particularly at post-16 #ukedchat #ukedchat factual knowledge such as? #ukedchat chunk it and make it relatable to them and life @gceyre Do you have examples of the sort of facts that need to be learnt? #ukedchat Use mind maps and other visual thinking tools #ukedchat Factual knowledge is the easy bit. It's the higher order skills that are tricky #ukedchat @davidhunter but how do you give students that experience? #ukedchat Students enjoying the fun free educational activities on the #friendourworld site http://ow.ly/oOVsu #edchat #ukedchat @bapED10 Is it possible to do that with all knowledge? #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:05:32 20:05:45 20:06 @gceyre

Imparting knowledge - What ways can we get students to learn factual knowledge?

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@rlj1981 but how do you deliver the factual in a way that pupils are able to regurgitate it in exams? #ukedchat #ukedchat constant struggle in geog with case studies @bapED10 getting the facts across in an engaging method @with_ict remembering definitions, facts and figures @gceyre required to be used in exams, case study information... #ukedchat Gamification. I learnt everything through the original Sid @MrDooleyUK Meiers' Civilisation game. Loads of literature to support it as well. #ukedchat #ukedchat think, pair, share first to see what they already @gillski22 know! @gceyre does it matter? If they give you attention? @davidhunter #ukedchat @gceyre @rlj1981 One of the ways to ensure ch are @nightzookeeper successful with exams is getting them to practice exam questions #ukedchat #ukedchat with younger children songs and chants or @Kezmerrelda turning it into a story. @gceyre @rlj1981 therefore they do not have to think @nightzookeeper about format and can solely focus on regurgitating the facts... #ukedchat Currently on phone ... Will be home in 5 minutes ... Got @gceyre held up at work. Will then be engaged properly! #ukedchat @gceyre I like the theory of episodic memory. That seems @davidhunter to stand true for memories from my school alth not necessarily academic #ukedchat @WhiteDebs #ukedchat and follow that with 'claim, support, challenge.' What are we talking about tonight? My ears are burning. @CaptainGove #Ukedchat #ukedchat getting students to use the facts in a debate @bapED10 works as they have to justify points with e.g's We shared this post on the #UKEdchat forum, via @ukedchat @JohnKapeleris "The Difference Between Knowledge and Wisdom" http://johnkapeleris.com/blog/?p=1752 #ukedchat teach to test is next to pointless but a necessity @with_ict nonetheless. @rlj1981 @gceyre How does one avoid fact fatigue? @ICTmagic #ukedchat @bapED10: #ukedchat chunk it and make it relatable to @gceyre them and life - I think these are both really important @ukedchat Introduce your staff to Twitter & the ideas of a PLN with
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Imparting knowledge - What ways can we get students to learn factual knowledge?

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this staffroom guide to #UKedchat http://ukedchat.com/how-to/ pic.twitter.com/6hQVTNDA7M #UKEdchat Includes this Knowledge Hierarchy in a pyramid format http://johnkapeleris.com/blog/wpcontent/uploads/2012/11/Knowledge-Hierarchy-1.jpg @gceyre @rlj1981 visual tools eg mind maps do both help with recall and show links between ideas building thinking #ukedchat Advertise factual learning through the use of displays #ukedchat @davidhunter so then the issue is engagement? - really agree! #ukedchat Consistent application of facts/knowledge over a period of time. E.g routine exam practice #ukedchat I'm interested in spelling on this subject. Any great methods? #ukedchat #ukedchat get learners to create first and the rest will come... eg use something like #puppetpals or @explainevrythng to present findings @ICTmagic @rlj1981 @gceyre Asking children to get involved in a creative task surrounding a series of facts can be powerful #ukedchat @ICTmagic @gceyre by linking it to the real world, to making it relevant to each child. Facts are magic waiting to be discovered #ukedchat Facts? Sometimes I just tell them. 'This is really important, so listen up ...' #ukedchat Thinking maps can help to gather/record students' factual understanding #ukedchat Butterfly ideas in education - love this! #ukedchat http://www.theguardian.com/p/3te8p/tw @davidhunter #ukedchat sing sing sing!!! Works really really well Am now at home so can properly follow and lead the discussion. #ukedchat @rlj1981 I'm not sure that's true; once u have a skill it's less likely you'll forget how to do it, but facts r easily forgotten. #ukedchat @ICTmagic @rlj1981 @gceyre e.g. creating a stop motion animation on the water cycle. They learn new skills, creative & facts #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:12:23 20:12:35 20:12:54 20:13:04 @bapED10

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#ukedchat peer teaching is always a good one as we know prepping for a lesson is good learning Sharing is good but there's the issue of QA to consider @tmeeky #ukedchat #ukedchat what helps you to learn facts? Are chn's brains @davidhunter really so different from ours? #ukedchat being able to visual stuff or make links helps & @Kezmerrelda putting facts even number related stuff into stories and songs works - in primary #ukedchat content creation tech being used to engage @excitecuriosity and encourage learning from early years to professionals in industry @MrHistoire Study, test, test, test ... #ukedchat Some key ideas so far in the discussion seem to be @gceyre engagement, chunking, link to display, and consistent application. #ukedchat @davidhunter @with_ict singing spellings. That's interesting. #ukedchat Student Retention: Where do you focus most of your time with your class? @Primary_Ed https://twitter.com/primary_ed/status/37417065389074022 4 #ukedchat #edchat #edtech @davidhunter Spelling is a tricky pne to avoid just @ICTmagic learning words and and rules by rote. Love to hear suggestions too. #ukedchat @excitecuriosity @explainevrythng #ukedchat iPads can @WhiteDebs lead to great engagement @WhiteDebs not sure what that is. I'm sure I'll find out if I @davidhunter look it up #ukedchat Mind maps and drawing a picture of your thoughts can be @nightzookeeper great ways of visualising and retaining facts #ukedchat Looking to learn about practical experiences in classroom @s_armitage with #googlehangout. Do get in touch. #UKedchat #mlearning http://bit.ly/17QpbJE RT @ICTmagic: @davidhunter Spelling is a tricky pne .. @tmeeky so are typos :) #ukedchat Wikipedia and Google are quite good at remembering @mberry facts for me. #ukedchat Mr Teach learned most of his geographical knowledge @mrandmrsteach from playing Football Manager. Make it relevant to students #UKedchat Sign up to a bulletin from #UKedchat to keep up to date @ukedchat with the UK's largest teacher discussion on Twitter.
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http://ukedchat.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 @ICTmagic do @tesPrimary still do the spellingbee? I love a bit of competition #ukedchat Looking at the discussion. A sub set of factual knowledge is spellings. What suggestions do you have for teaching spellings. #ukedchat @davidhunter @with_ict or cheerleader chants like give me a h, give me an e, give me an l, give me a p, what have we got "help!" #ukedchat Repeat the key ideas as a whole class ... In a funny voice ... Often .... Get them to repeat that answer to different questions #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @ICTmagic @gceyre agreed with bells on. Make their learning memorable. #ukedchat 'Money' to be taught in schools - with lessons on state spending via @Telegraph http://fw.to/ufwfKTO #ukedchat New post:My top 20 #ipad apps to #mlearning discovered from #tcdisrupt http://bitly.com/tcdisrupt2013 #edchat #cpchat #ukedchat via @LucianeCurator RT @MrHistoire: @nightzookeeper model maps are my current fave #ukedchat Be flexible and always be willing to go off plan with what the children are interested in http://mrparkinsonict.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/starting-ourblogging-with-bang.html #ukedchat #ukedchat While we teach, we learn. Seneca, Roman Philosopher, d. 65AD. Learn, create and present to peers. Works for all ages! Guidance for teachers during industrial action http://edapt.co/12U0fjG #ukedchat Have you tried Learning Events Generator? http://www.newtools.org/showtxt.php?docid=724 livens up theory learning, eg. Postmodern theory as a jazz song! #ukedchat @Kezmerrelda @with_ict maybe some military chants? #ukedchat @nightzookeeper suggests mind maps. does any one have any favorite techniques to teaching mind mapping? #ukedchat @davidhunter #ukedchat 'think-a-link' top example - 'Don't flood the loo' to get the oo instead of u
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ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:18:15

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A dose of curiosity, a sense of awe & being allowed to @ICTmagic direct their own learning with questions helps children retain facts. #ukedchat @gceyre I try to keep spellings in groups that relate. Then @nightzookeeper ask ch to complete a task to include them all. Enhances understanding #ukedchat @MrHistoire Ask different questions of the same info #ukedchat #ukedchat I always remember 2spell necessary by @Kezmerrelda remembering 1 collar (c) & 2 sleeves (s) but can't hav stuff like that all words! #ukedchat @gceyre Would love to see some suggestions to this one, @MrGsBrain too. Spelling tests: everyone doing them? Relevant? Necessary? #ukedchat Never mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you @xmanpsx make a living; the other helps you make a life. Sandra Carey #UKEdchat @WhiteDebs @explainevrythng Absolutely! In an @excitecuriosity amazing, uncluttered by the tech, way #ukedchat @WhiteDebs I see what you mean. We look at plenty of @davidhunter mnemonics and the like #ukedchat @gceyre True enough. But it seems to work out OK for @mberry much of the rest of life / work. #purpos/ed = pass exams? #ukedchat During first year of CertEd we learned that colour-coding @mejpark activities and resources can help learners retain facts. #ukedchat @Kezmerrelda ha ha I do "in winter is necessary to wear @with_ict a coat and 2 socks" #ukedchat @WhiteDebs @davidhunter See also things from @mrlockyer @sirlinkalot #ukedchat Factual knowledge only matters if its important to the @travelgeordie students. They need to be able to discern the right knowledge. #ukedchat @MrHistoire Use #SOLOtaxonomy! #ukedchat @rlj1981 I'm not saying skills are unimportant, just that @davidlettington learning facts is not easy unless you have a specific type of memory. #ukedchat There seems to be a real gap between 'real life' and what @gceyre is required to learn facts to pass exams. Exams fit for purpose? #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @gceyre we are trying out peer @traceyab1 coaching with our yr2's this year for things like spellings
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and maths facts #ukedchat 9 minute edit of an AS film studies lesson by @Debbie2965 #UKEdchat @i2iPartnership http://www.i2ipartnership.co.uk/29/news/article/14/mrscoads-as-film-studies-lesson#.UjIT5gnp84A.twitter @gceyre Not everything learnt should be for utilitarian @tstarkey1212 means #ukedchat @with_ict @davidhunter stories which create visuals and @Kezmerrelda links in your mind! We have actions for punctuation too,dif one 4each type #ukedchat @MrGsBrain @gceyre not sure you need to test. @nightzookeeper Encourage a love of reading and creative writing exercises can be better #ukedchat Think-a-link with spelling: MT @WhiteDebs: @SPFLearning @davidhunter #ukedchat 'Don't flood the loo' to get the oo instead of u @traceyab1 suggests peer coaching for primary spellings @gceyre and maths facts.. has anyone used that in secondary? #ukedchat @gceyre Well written exams don't just test facts, they test @davidlettington skills too. #ukedchat @gceyre @nightzookeeper mind mapping is one of the @traceyab1 skills we introduce in our learning to learn weeks in yr2. Start by modelling #ukedchat @davidlettington @rlj1981 agreed, I don't retain facts that @nightzookeeper well, but I have search engines and the internet at my finger tips :-) #ukedchat I've some ideas/info for spellings activities here... Would @bekblayton love to hear of any other resources! #ukedchat http://www.digitalclassrooms.co.uk/?p=485 #ukedchat Some facts are simply lovely to learn, others @mrlockyer necessary for exams. LEGO=Play Well. Useless fact, but charming! So we are talking about gimmicks to get attention @davidhunter ultimately. Not a criticism as I have plenty up my sleeve #ukedchat #pbl is great because students need to find the facts for @travelgeordie the purpose of their final product. Facilitation is key not teaching #ukedchat @mberry @gceyre Lots of fluffy #ukedchat ideas, but are @MrGsBrain we being really honest? My Day-to-day factual learning simply cannot use all this!
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ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:24:44 20:24:46 20:24:53 20:25:02 20:25:06 20:25:08 20:25:36 @gceyre @magicalmaths @magicalmaths @nightzookeeper @davidlettington @bekblayton @WhiteDebs @SparkyTeachin g

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@tstarkey1212 I totally agree #ukedchat It is the balance between that and the 'system' Is Islam A Peaceful Religion? Shocking! Mehdi Hasan Oxford Union - #pgce #ukedchat #edchat http://tinyurl.com/lk2s5qa How do I set homework for my pupils? - #pgce #ukedchat #edchat http://tinyurl.com/9alyu99 @davidlettington @gceyre not always easy to mark based on skills though as they are a lot more ambiguous #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @rlj1981 ...but not during an exam I hope! #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @davidlettington @rlj1981 good point... How important is fact retention these days #ukedchat @traceyab1 #ukedchat I'd be interested to know how that goes Seems 'The Importance of Mr Gove' is relevant to tonight's #ukedchat. re. teacher-talk and retaining facts... >> http://www.sparkyteaching.com/creative/theimportance-of-mr-gove/ #ukedchat also making something, a box, a sculpture, something different they will remember and convert the dry 'knowledge' into a memory. We are now getting towards the half way mark. What specific techiques do you have for teaching key words to students? #ukedchat @mrlockyer another fact for you: Otters hold hands when they float so that don't get separated #ukedchat @gceyre @bekblayton @nightzookeeper @davidlettington @rlj1981 not very! locate info from reliable source is wht will b needed as adult #ukedchat Pupils need core knowledge and the ability to search google effectively. A competitive quiz suits boys I have found as incentive #UKEdchat If your school club is over subscribed and not sport/art related, does it mean it's popular because you are running it? #ukedchat #edchat @davidlettington @rlj1981 haha, well why not? You wouldn't take devices off people at any other time in their life... #ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack I really agree with that ... but when you have to cover an exam syllabus in a year it difficult to do
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for all. #ukedchat Passing tests doesnt begin to compare w searching @excitecuriosity &enquiring &pursuing topics that engage us & excite us #ukedchat http://ow.ly/22LkKd http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_learning @davidhunter #ukedchat this is a very interesting technique I have used for times tables @excitecuriosity @ICTmagic ditto that one! #ukedchat @magicalmaths We did this last year @magicalmaths We @raff31 did this last year #ukedchat For key words try using anagrams. Unscramble and write @mrandmrsteach a definition. Then find an example #UKedchat @WhiteDebs Did mini trial last year which worked well so @traceyab1 making it a regular twice weekly event. Short bursts or learning #ukedchat @davidlettington @rlj1981 sometimes we test on topics @nightzookeeper and in methods that are so far detached from future life experiences... #ukedchat Learning facts in Maths @HoDTeacher http://theviewfromthemathsbunker.wordpress.com/2013/0 6/06/sticky-maths/ #stickymaths #ukedchat Lovely useless fact: Otters hold hands when they float so @gillbudgell that don't get separated #ukedchat @gceyre @nightzookeeper #cute The true value of friendship in a digital age | stephen perse foundation #ukedchat @StephenPerse https://stephenperse.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/the-truevalue-of-friendship-in-a-digital-age/#comments Also need to help students learn how they best remember @bekblayton facts, study skills and memory aides etc. everyone is different! #ukedchat Key word bingo. Read the definition. If they have the key @mreddavies word they cross it off. Easy starter. #UKEdchat @nightzookeeper is suspect the time spent:facts learnt @mberry ratio is /quite/ high for that. @ICTmagic @rlj1981 @gceyre #ukedchat A usefull way to help with fact retention is Da Vinci @gceyre moments - going back to previously covered information for 10 min in the #ukedchat @davidhunter exactly. . . Let's be real. All a bit fluffy for @MrGsBrain me.....What works for MOST?? #ukedchat @gceyre of a lesson. #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:32:03 20:32:08 20:32:22 20:32:49 20:33:42 20:34:09 20:34:25 20:34:41 20:34:47 20:34:50 20:35:26 20:35:36 20:37:17 20:37:23

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Problem is education (tools, resources, policy) is always @tmeeky so far behind real world, never going to be able to teach for the future #ukedchat @WhiteDebs @davidhunter #ukedchat did it work? Literacy wall ideas updated http://shar.es/ieTcg @Mat6453 #ukedchat #literacyinpe Numeracy in Sport through fitness sessions @Mat6453 http://shar.es/ieTeS #numeracyinpe #ukedchat Key words - repetition and immediate use in various @MrHistoire contexts #ukedchat @sarahjg1703 Do sent home spellings actually work #ukedchat @gceyre true! #ukedchat but give them only a lesson, put @GeorgeEBlack the pressure on, tell them it's the only time they will get on the subject... @sarahjg1703 I think it depends on if the students have @gceyre support at home or not. #ukedchat @mberry @ICTmagic @rlj1981 @gceyre yeah I guess, @nightzookeeper but it depends where the priorities are... #ukedchat @SparkyTeachin Alfred Hitchcock on "facts". #ukedchat >> g pic.twitter.com/CcqByBu1AM Force kids to learn anything, and it'll be resented. Foster a @tmeeky love of learning and job done; learners will then learn wot's needed #ukedchat @Brightonteacher #ukedchat drawing symbols and playing taboo @SparkyTeachin Abraham Lincoln on "facts". #ukedchat >> g pic.twitter.com/3fNerpcDrd @sarahjg1703 it's tough isn't it.. I find parents like it! Out @bekblayton of context though spellings can be a little pointless.. #ukedchat @MrGsBrain or provide a range of strategies that engage. @davidhunter It seems to me that memories are created when routines are disrupted #ukedchat RT @ICE2911: @gceyre #ukedchat teach the rules, not @ukedchat just a list one day and test end of week! In fact don't test! @bekblayton learning new things involves making @mberry connections with old things: the more you know, the more you can learn. #ukedchat @gceyre #ukedchat teach the rules, not just a list one day @ICE2911 and test end of week! In fact don't test! @SparkyTeachin Elvis Presley on "facts" #ukedchat >> g pic.twitter.com/D7as9jhXhU @tmeeky RT @ICE2911: @gceyre #ukedchat teach the rules, not
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just a list one day and test end of week! In fact don't test!> too much testing goes on @SparkyTeachin Finally, Steve McQueen on "facts". #ukedchat >> g pic.twitter.com/dW0Eza7aTK @sarahjg1703 not in my experience. Could spell in end of @traceyab1 wk test but not transferred into writing Waste of time Stopped! #ukedchat @MrHistoire @ukedchat @ICE2911 @gceyre don't test? #ukedchat #ukedchat the more they read.....the more everything @SalGrylls improves. From @appadvice: Toca Builders - FREE TODAY - a @ICT_MrP must on any iPad beig used in the classroom #ukedchat http://appsgonefree.getapp.cc/app/GB/652077009 @mreddavies We use this at GCSE with sweetie prizes @Acklam_RS as an added incentive. Works well and kids get very 'involved'. #UKedchat The free #ukedchat e-bulletin is the best way to find the most useful/interesting posts on the hashtag. Subscribe at @ukedchat http://ukedchat.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 @WhiteDebs @traceyab1 @sarahjg1703 #ukedchat completely agree @WhiteDebs it did for me and it did for Paul Kelley at @davidhunter monkeaton #ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack like the paper lantern story in teach like @excitecuriosity a pirate #ukedchat #tlap @burgessdave @traceyab1 @gceyre cool, let me know how it goes. @nightzookeeper @EPPS_ICT used mentoring during NZK project last year, worked really well! #ukedchat I want my kids excited, keen + happy to go to school each @tmeeky morning. If they are, something right is happening. If not, I intervene #ukedchat Number one technique for delivering a large body of facts @gceyre just to meet an external examination requirement? #ukedchat @ukedchat @MrHistoire can you share anything on @nightzookeeper model maps? #ukedchat Join the 675 educators who have subscribed to the free #ukedchat bulletin with news & the best posts on the @ukedchat hashtag. http://ukedchat.us7.listmanage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 @ICT_MrP Providing tasks where children have to create to share
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understanding always makes knowledge stick http://mrparkinsonict.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/making-newknowledge-stick.html #ukedchat @gceyre repeat and reproduce in different ways. colour, @bekblayton make connections and look at regularly - record and listen to if needed! #ukedchat @WhiteDebs @sarahjg1703 we give parents list of 1st @traceyab1 100 HFW (and then nxt 200 when done) so they know let help chn in own way. #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @ICT_MrP speaking my language Mr P! #ukedchat In the last twenty minutes now. Do you agree with the @gceyre principal of core knowledge? #ukedchat #ukedchat no specific no1, plethora of ways to suit the @bapED10 'fact' range of methods always best. Adapted to hats in front of you RT @gceyre: In the last twenty minutes now. Do you @tmeeky agree with the principal of core knowledge? #ukedchat> I agree with core values (learnin) @ICT_MrP #ukedchat Agree - and collectively creating @WhiteDebs their own mark schemes for papers, instead of sitting them is great for revision @traceyab1 @WhiteDebs @sarahjg1703 Do you find that @gceyre that helps parents or are some parents overwhelmed by 100 at once? #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @gceyre @EPPS_ICT will do! @traceyab1 #ukedchat mentioned it once, v. engaging - the Learning Events Generator...http://www.newtools.org/showtxt.php? @GeorgeEBlack docid=724 you can get an adaptable one too! #ukedchat @gceyre If everone knows the same core knowledge, is @ICTmagic that knowledge more or less valueable for an individual? #UKedchat RT @bootleian: @gceyre #ukedchat Who's to say what @ukedchat core knowledge is? Unfortunately, it's political. @Grevster73 @gceyre oops. #ukedchat yes I do! For some subjects. No-one actually understands Ed/Learning in its entirety, @tmeeky so let's have faith in ourselves (as a prof) that we are doin best we can #ukedchat @gceyre @Grevster73 What subjects? #ukedchat @gceyre @WhiteDebs @sarahjg1703 no probs in prev @traceyab1 yrs - giving out next week after meeting with parents as
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ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:48:36 @gceyre

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@tmeeky @with_ict @davidlettington @mberry @GeorgeEBlack @traceyab1 @davie_marsh @Mad_teach @Westylish @travelgeordie @davie_marsh @Grevster73 @ukedchat @mreddavies @gceyre @ukedchat @DanaABDUL

part of help pack. #ukedchat So what is one fact that every child should know by the time they leave school? #ukedchat 100's of randomly generated, self marking worksheets for revision http://studymaths.co.uk/workoutMenu.php? type=all#.UjIZuvWtOPs.twitter #math #mathcpdchat #ukedchat Kids should go home and play outside, or just play and talk with family, not do spelling homework #ukedchat #ukedchat no answer can be certain as even the term 'core knowledge' is debatable. @gceyre The way home. #ukedchat @bootleian @gceyre I wonder. I think there may be other forces involved in practice. Not all top down. #ukedchat @gceyre that they can work independently and achieve if they try... try that for core knowledge! #ukedchat @gceyre @WhiteDebs @sarahjg1703 explain to work thro at own pace Some do some don't!! #ukedchat @gceyre I like Venn diagrams to help classify lots of content and examples - social/ economic/ env/ political #ukedchat @gceyre how to find facts they WANT to know! #ukedchat @gceyre that they can't know it all #ukedchat Students need a basis of knowledge to build upon after that it should be up to them facilitated by creative teachers #ukedchat @gceyre I recently got students to make their own Venn diagrams too #ukedchat @ukedchat @bootleian @gceyre all education is political. It's not unfortunate, it's essential! #ukedchat RT @JennyCameron: @gceyre #ukedchat Shakespeare was in it for the money. I have had pupils who talk at length of development in a country. Then fail to point to it on a map. So miss the wider pic. #ukedchat @travelgeordie What should be included in that basis? #ukedchat Before you run away, check out the poll for next week's #ukedchat at http://ukedchat.com/poll/ & join @dailydenouement on 19th Sept at 8pm. @gceyre @ukedchat failure isn't something to be scared of, but to learn from #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:52:50 20:53:48 20:54:11 @nightzookeeper

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@JennyCameron @gceyre @ukedchat haha "Shakespeare was in it for the money." #ukedchat @gceyre I use COPRU for source analysis #ukedchat @MrHistoire #historyteacher @Grevster73: @bekblayton @gceyre I think there's a @Grevster73 difference between a nat curric & core knowledge #ukedchat Teachers who are parents: stuff to do with your own kids, @tmeeky instead of the spelling homework they bring home http://bit.ly/11fB2L3 #ukedchat .@Anniegottago @ukedchat needs near-positive @Jon_Torbitt discrimination to unleash potential. Make it challenging, attractive + high profile #ukedchat @tmeeky #Ukedchat agree! there speaks a fellow @mrw608 parent :) @gceyre it irrelevant once they have left school :~) @fcbsd #ukedchat @gceyre #ukedchat depends on the project. Sometimes a @travelgeordie #pbl approach requires students to be taught knowledge in a just in time approach. @DanaABDUL @gceyre #ukedchat FAIL= First Attempt @with_ict In Learning :) #UKedchat is always on the look out for hosts for the @ukedchat community's Thursday night sessions. If you are interested, please get in touch. In the last 8 minutes tonight. Favourite random fact? @gceyre #ukedchat @Grevster73 @bekblayton @gceyre Could you explain @mikeatedji what the difference wd be between core knowledge and Nat Curric? #ukedchat @mikeatedji @bekblayton @gceyre probably not in 149 @Grevster73 characters! #ukedchat @gceyre Teddy Roosevelt was the first and only @MrHistoire president to kill a cougar with a knife #ukedchat Join the 676 educators who have subscribed to the free #ukedchat bulletin with news & the best posts on the @ukedchat hashtag. http://ukedchat.us7.listmanage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 9 quotes about teaching that might actually make you @passionateaboo miss the classroom #ukedchat #edchat t http://www.takepart.com/photos/teaching-quotes-about14 of 16

ukedchat Archive 12th September 2013 Hosted by @gceyre 20:57:04 20:57:09 20:57:31 20:57:35 20:57:38 20:57:58 20:58 20:58:22 @MrHistoire @ukedchat @mrlockyer @with_ict @mikeatedji @ICT_MrP @gceyre @travelgeordie

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best/robert-frost @gceyre America was nearly called Freedonia #ukedchat Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts? Sign up to the bulletin at http://ukedchat.us7.listmanage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 @gceyre #ukedchat Cats can't follow a pointed finger @gceyre #ukedchat how many people will GOOGLE 'interesting facts'!? Makes the point null n void really:) The little bump on the front side of your ear is called a tragus #ukedchat @WhiteDebs absolutely, mantle of the expert! Let them become teachers! #ukedchat @with_ict Should we allow Google in exams? Googling is a skill! #ukedchat A student told me today that cancer has been cured and gave me some evidence to look at online. Might have to challenge that ha #ukedchat Introduce your staff to Twitter & the ideas of a PLN with this staffroom guide to #UKedchat http://ukedchat.com/how-to/ pic.twitter.com/6hQVTNDA7M #UKedchat folk pls check out #rscon4 - 3days, 115presenters, 10keynotes and more Oct11-13 FREE econf gonna be MEGA! http://reformsymposium.com Thank you for all your tweets in tonights #ukedchat . Vote for next week's topic with @dailydenouement http://ukedchat.com/poll/ Want to raise standards in education? No more new initiatives or kneeJerk Reactions #ukedchat Listen to the teachers & researchers! #sltchat @gceyre I shall make it my life mission ha ha:) #ukedchat My new tech display...work in progress! #ukedchat #edchat Encouraging more students to become creative using tech. pic.twitter.com/0g9JppO91m One more minute for any final thoughts on FACTS #ukedchat @gceyre...a mission I shall start later though as #EducatingYorkshire is about to start:) #ukedchat Michelle Mackay @with_ict 31m It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @gceyre for hosting tonights
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#ukedchat. The archive will be at http://ukedchat.com/2013/09/12/session-168/ soon.

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