ukedchat Archive 19th September 2013 Hosted by @dailydenouement

Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@ukedchat

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@JamesJMatthews

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@timrylands

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@gavinsmart

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@dailydenouement

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@dailydenouement

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@dailydenouement

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@Westylish

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@Literacy_Trust

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@danpo_

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@yorkshireht

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@dailydenouement

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@AcademicsUK

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@JohnWoottonUK @MrAColley

Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @dailydenouement Feedback - How do you make your marking count? Bulletin signup http://ukedchat.us7.listmanage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 #ukedchat Take photos and video clips. Not all feedback has to be written. RT @ICTEvangelist: Today is a great day #ukedchat #perfectict http://yfrog.com/nuk0arej @timrylands <Yay! Well done Mark Celebrating 500 Chrome experiments! Hours of fun!!!! #ukedchat #edtech http://500.chromeexperiments.com/ So, tonight's topic is one close to my oft beleaguered heart - how do we make marking & feedback meaningful? #ukedchat How/where do you store/record/use? RT @JamesJMatthews: #ukedchat Take photos and video clips. Not all feedback has to be written. Ok, good topic tonight for the start of the new year: how do you make your marking/feedback count? #ukedchat Make sure you plan time into lessons so that all feedback has to be acted on. #ukedchat http://westylish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/closing-gapdeveloping-efficient.html?m=1 We worked with 12 schools to identify approaches that have been found to improve writing attainment through Transforming Writing #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat repetition of task, especially if badly fluffed. Clear instructions on where they went wrong. Hard to believe we've hit 100,000 visitors on our blog. Amazing! http://bradfordschools.net/blog/miriamlord/ #ukedchat #classblogs #comments4kids @Westylish Do you do this with every homework or just levelled pieces? #ukedchat Remember the Blackpool Illuminations? #Onthisday in 1879, they were switched on for the first time #ukedchat #teachers Only provide feedback when you truly have something to say that will help a student do something better next time #UKedchat #ukedchat Pupils have to 'mark the feedback'. Tick for
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Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@dailydenouement

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@Smithie_S

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@mrandmrsteach

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@dailydenouement

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@WhiteDebs

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@Jivespin

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@OuthwaiteTt

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@Literacy_Trust

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@MrAColley

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@Westylish

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@dailydenouement

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@Jivespin @JamesJMatthews

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@dailydenouement

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@SteveThursbyMA

understood, cross for disagree (w reason), ? for don't understand it. RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat Pupils have to 'mark the feedback'. Tick for understood, cross for disagree (w reason), ? for don't understand it. @dailydenouement #ukedchat I've started using idoceo for recording - can add photos and annotations Plan 'response time' into lessons where students respond to your comments by improving an aspect of their marked work. #ukedchat @MrAColley I like this idea. Have you seen improvement/better engagement with the feedback etc? #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat get as much information on learning in the lesson as possible - act on misconceptions immediately My favourite feedback tool at the moment #ukedchat pic.twitter.com/DdiORGT9UG Never work with children and animals....oops! One down! How can so much happen and we're only in the third week! #ukedchat Read our research on Transforming Writing and see our approaches: #ukedchat http://ow.ly/p1zpV @dailydenouement #ukedchat More nuanced than that, but that's the 140 char version. Means they read it rather than just look at level. Deliver feedback in a creative way. Around the room, on video, recorded on phones #ukedchat http://westylish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/improving-levelessay-feedback.html?m=1 How do you check that your feedback has been acted on? What methods do you have for checking that improvements are made? #ukedchat Use the feedback stamp when giving feedback and the student has to write down what you have said #ukedchat #ukedchat Ask the children to respond to your comments but ensure you allow time to do this (with peers) Like that idea! RT @Jivespin: Use the feedback stamp when giving feedback and the student has to write down what you have said #ukedchat #ukedchat Cocise marking that highlights how current grade has been achieved and what needs to be done for
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Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@mrandmrsteach

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@WhiteDebs

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@jackieschneider

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@MrMPritchard

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@rpd1972

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@shornymorgan

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@Smithie_S

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@riley_ed

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@Jivespin

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@dailydenouement

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@dailydenouement

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@Jivespin

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@poachermullen @dailydenouement

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@Krenz77 @JamesJMatthews

development. @Jivespin I bought this for everyone in my dept! Get the students to record your feedback too then you just have to initial it #ukedchat @mrandmrsteach #ukedchat I also encourage them to copy their 'moving in comments' at the start of each lesson. FACT: writing "watch your spelling" has failed to lead to a SINGLE improvement in spelling #ukedchat @MrAColley: #ukedchat Pupils 'mark the feedback'. Tick for understood, x for disagree (w reason), ? for don't understand Great idea! @mrandmrsteach #ukedchat Completely agree about planning in the for children to respond to marking, otherwise marking is pointless! @dailydenouement During 'MAD' time, I get them to redraft one / write new para of the writing they did which received the feedback #ukedchat #UKedchat I try to give verbal feedback during lessons & get the child to write down the key point of the verbal feedback next to the VP' Transforming Maths T + L with technology - free event @deferrers https://b13143.eventbrite.co.uk #ukedchat #ipaded Other stamps I use are these #ukedchat pic.twitter.com/a2l1JmRzjk RT @poachermullen: we give banks of targets 4 improvement & write no. of relevant target on work.Then look up, engage & correct wk #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @JamesJMatthews: @dailydenouement on iPads and cameras then show through IWB Give your TA a stamp and a target for selected students so their feedback is valued too and evidence of their work #ukedchat #ukedchat time for corrections built in when work is handed back. T can circulate & help individuals Please remember to use the hashtag so your tweets can be archived #ukedchat Anyone use the 100 first and 200 next words in ks2 for assessment purposes (SEN particularly)? If not what do you do? #UKEdChat #teachers #ukedchat Two stars and a wish works well.....providing
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@jackieschneider @andrew_cowley23

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@dailydenouement @Smithie_S @LaraUniServity

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@MissDCox

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@simonwithey

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@kitandrew1

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@SheliBB

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@shornymorgan

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@mrandmrsteach

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@rpd1972

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@JamesJMatthews

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@Jivespin

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@dailydenouement @SteveThursbyMA

the next lesson is personalised to all those wishes! Isn't most marking simplly designed to impress SLT. & parents? Does it actually aid learning? #ukedchat @Smithie_S #UKedchat Excellent idea- shows child's response to/ responsibility for their work. Good question! RT @jackieschneider: Isn't most marking simplly designed to impress SLT. & parents? Does it actually aid learning? #ukedchat @WhiteDebs #ukedchat what are moving in comments? @dailydenouement Get students into the habit of always responding to comments and regularly going back to review and reflect #ukedchat #UKEdchat as much as this is painful, if you don't mark for the next lesson (or at a push the one after that) you might as well not bother @ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat use marking to inform my planning and use @TeacherToolkit 's #5minutemarkingplan on @tesResources @tes @ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat I have time set: the correction selection where pupils act on one task/change I ask to make in marking. Come and join in #DLchat after #ukedchat at 9pm and share your digital leader news and ideas I've been writing feedback on tasks during the lesson for my yr10s so far - helps refocus and direct them further to achieve #ukedchat Use highlighters to identify areas of strength/improvement. Makes your marking visual. #ukedchat #ukedchat Pink/green marking is a great tool: pink for think, green for great. Chn can instantly see their successes &what needs improving. #ukedchat Hold conferencing sessions where children can come to you to go over anything from the week, respond to your comments etc For Sixth Form, I give them an independent learning log which they fill in and I check every other week and give feedback #ukedchat @rpd1972 Could you explain a little more about the pink/green marking? #ukedchat @dailydenouement @jackieschneider #ukedchat I would be very disappointed if marking want about helping
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Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@dailydenouement @dailydenouement

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@jackieschneider

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@LouisMMCoiffait @JamesJMatthews

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@rpd1972

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@mrandmrsteach

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@JohnWoottonUK @Jivespin

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@MrAColley @rpd1972 @KathrinaPerry

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@syded06

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@shornymorgan

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@jackieschneider

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@WhiteDebs

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@Smithie_S @piersyoung

students to develop. What does meaningful marking look like? #ukedchat @Jivespin Would you be able to share that template? #ukedchat One of the (many) joys of teaching music is no random ticking & banal statements but real verbal & online feedback #ukedchat The Best Educational Apps and Games for Kids http://ow.ly/oRC2Z @lifehacker #ukedchat #edchat #ukedchat How's this for feedback!!! http://pinterest.com/pin/461126449316836922/ @jackieschneider #ukedchat It aids learning where chn can clearly see their next steps & close the gap comments help them to achieve them. @shornymorgan definitely agree with trying to mark/give feedback during lessons - it keeps it timely and focused. #ukedchat Use old 'Voice Comments' in Google Drive shared documents. #UKedchat @dailydenouement I'll put it on my blog - taken from Dale Banham's SHP work #ukedchat This yr I've got my Y8/9 option groups blogging. Going to give fbk as comments and want to see edits on posts as ev of action. #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat I'll take a picture, hang on! @jackieschneider constructive criticism #ukedchat #musiced If you have the technology, the feedback loop has been transformed with immediacy and response when required #ukedchat Use highlighters for them to highlight where they have fulfilled success criteria, and give them red pen to correct their mistakes #ukedchat @KathrinaPerry - my son had "watch spelling" in EVERY book EVERY year of his school life. #ukedchat @dailydenouement according to Hattie's research effective feedback has the biggest impact on student learning #ukedchat #UkEdChat using alphanumeric marking code for WWW EBI that children have to decipher then act on, now developed next step think questions Obvious point, but one way to make it meaningful is to
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@dailydenouement

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@shornymorgan

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@dailydenouement

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@LaraUniServity

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@JohnWoottonUK

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@mrtpolitics

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@Jivespin

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@Class_Leading

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@ukedchat

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@jackieschneider

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@dailydenouement

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@MrAColley

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@rpd1972

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@dailydenouement

make it quick/close to the activity. Feedback a week after the event fails #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @fitzpatrickjim: @JamesJMatthews If have access to iPads, check out vittle. Can talk through work and record verbal feedback. Going to be adapting my use of 'MAD' time to incorporate @kohlmand 's purple pages of progress for my target task sheets this year #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @fitzpatrickjim: @JamesJMatthews Store on a shared area where students and you can refer back to, when necessary. @jackieschneider The issue comes when SLT don't convince staff of the importance of it FOR LEARNING & it FEELS like it's for show #ukedchat Going to test the use of 'ThreeRing' after half term ... #UKedchat Make 6thform keep all essays with feedback on in a plastic wallet at front of folder. Start revision by rewriting earlier essays #UKedchat The Sixth Form Independent Learning Log allows you to check if they are doing any work and creates a learning dialogue record #ukedchat @mrandmrsteach I agree - some kind of reply to the comments, either by addressing issues or commenting #ukedchat RT @MargMcM: #ukedchat give kids time to read comments and act on them. Otherwise marking is pointless. @nicscho - delaying bedtime in favour of being controversial on #ukedchat #mostmarkingiswasteoftime Please remember to use the #ukedchat hashtag in all tweets. Lots of good stuff being shared but it won't get archived! #ukedchat Example of one of my Y9 unit mark sheets (blank) https://www.dropbox.com/s/g6avf25f0ufczsr/9.1%20Mark %20Sheet.docx @dailydenouement #ukedchat pink/green marking... Highlight good things in green, show what needs improving in pink pic.twitter.com/yUqOWWCFdQ #ukedchat RT @Grevster73:Perhaps the word 'marking' is inappropriate. Maybe 'responding' or 'reviewing' or
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Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@dailydenouement

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@JamesJMatthews @jackieschneider

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@Grevster73

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@HylandMcCabe

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@dailydenouement

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@mrandmrsteach

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@dailydenouement

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@piersyoung

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@Class_Leading

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@dailydenouement

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@simonwithey

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@Andyphilipday

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@WhiteDebs

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@dailydenouement

'replying' are better verbs? #ukedchat RT @HylandMcCabe: @rpd1972 @dailydenouement nice idea. We use green for student and purple for teacher - good for showing dialogue #ukedchat Feedback is only useful if you're telling the children what they need todo next. And don't get me started on idiocy of stipulating green pen & teachers meekly following #ukedchat @Grevster73: @dailydenouement Perhaps the word 'marking' is wrong. Are 'responding' or 'reviewing' or 'replying'better verbs? #ukedchat @Smithie_S @dailydenouement #ukedchat If you use Evernote then add Skitch - instant visual feedback and annotations on photos of kids work @mrtpolitics Love that idea for sixth form! Thank you. #ukedchat @Class_Leading you can then turn your feedback into a learning conversation in the students' books - doesn't always work though! #ukedchat @HylandMcCabe Please use the hashtag. Your tweets are not going to get picked up in archiving process. #ukedchat Does anyone use SOLO? Think its quite good as not just feedback (watch spelling) but feedforward (what to do next to fix it) #ukedchat @dailydenouement @Grevster73 teach the students how to peer mark properly -very effective, even better when they set the question #ukedchat Does anyone have any examples of good marking policies or practice they could share? #ukedchat @ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat I just needed to tell everyone running my 1st @CodeClub on Monday. Just need Scratch 2.0 resources @dailydenouement - & students see thru that v. quickly. Fdbck systems that are forcibly standardised thru school lose credibility. #ukedchat #ukedchat how about giving work back to pupils with feedback on post it notes - pupils have to match work to feedback - groups of 4 #ukedchat RT @syded06: the 'ideal' feedback is a 1:1 conversation. We can get very close to this with technology at our disposal
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@LaraUniServity

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@syded06 @WhiteDebs @Class_Leading

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@mrpeel

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@MrAColley

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@Jivespin

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@rpd1972

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@simonwithey

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@jackieschneider

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@rpd1972

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@hannahtyreman

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@LaraUniServity

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@mrpeel @WhiteDebs

Using wikis as learning/ writing journals where appropriate allows for comments and comparing before ans after versions #ukedchat @dailydenouement the 'ideal' feedback is a 1:1 conversation. We can get very close to this with technology at our disposal #ukedchat @JamesJMatthews #ukedchat absolutely! @mrandmrsteach Yes I agree, students need much training on how to do this! #ukedchat @Smithie_S @dailydenouement I bought a verbal feedback stamp from Anazon- I stamp: they spider the feedback #ukedchat My #teachtweet vid from May on how to get pupils to give quality feedback and act on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGKkEHXdqIE #ukedchat Fill my brain - a great plenary strategy http://wp.me/p3pzMr-4P This post has some photo examples of using feedback stamp #ukedchat #ukedchat pink/green works well in maths too. We are trialling chn only writing on 1page, to give space for marking & responses to marking @ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat use @edmodo to give live instant marked worked and feedback in the same lesson #outstanding If kids were able to complete more real life tasks then they would get more genuine feedback. Too many worksheets still #ukedchat #ukedchat y2 maths marking, responded to by child... pic.twitter.com/KTnuzU8ch8 @dailydenouement Fabulous feedback guidelines for students: http://hannahruthtyreman.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/fab ulous-feedback/ College are developing guidelines for teachers. #ukedchat It's also important to give feedback in a way that ia useful for students AND efficient use of teacher time. Magic wand needed? #ukedchat #ukedchat key is to give enough time to read the feedback and structure their attitude to receiving and responding from y7 onwards @dailydenouement #ukedchat one in maths is find and fix
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Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@eylanezekiel

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@dailydenouement

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@ShehlaIjaz

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@hannahtyreman

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@davidErogers

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@ukedchat

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@dailydenouement

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@dailydenouement

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@eylanezekiel

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@davidErogers

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@LaraUniServity

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@Westylish

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@piersyoung @RSCON4

- only allow 10 questions max, don't tick - tell them how many are wrong - they find #ukedchat Try to give up on marking and move towards 'critique' / peer and self assessment http://elschools.org/best-practices/ron-berger-critique From the great Ron Berger #ukedchat RT @kitandrew1: @dailydenouement @jackieschneider @MsFindlater is a star when it comes to dialogic marking... @hegartymaths: http://hegartymaths.com/factors-andmultiples/ #ukedchat Get ready for Nov resit Thursday pm class. Great help! @dailydenouement @syded06 Definitely! My students are loving video and verbal recorded feedback. They can play it back too! #ukedchat #ukedchat feedback 5 developed @priorygeography http://daviderogers.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/simple-buteffective-ideas-feedback-5.html RT @LuanCherry: @Jivespin #ukedchat We aren't allowed to use stamps. OFSTED don't like them apparently. #ukedchat RT @mrtpolitics: college introduced this. Uniform to make it clear literacy is key throughout curriculum. pic.twitter.com/aLpONMvhP8 How do you manage your marking load? What tips do you have to ensure that marking doesn't become an overwhelming part of the job? #ukedchat And for those who haven't seen the story of 'Austin's Butterfly' which exemplifies 'Critique' http://vimeo.com/38247060 Do so after #ukedchat #ukedchat remember that not all feedback needs to be written in books. Plan oral feedback, speak to children in lessons @mrpeel You can build those sort of habits through KS2 so they're already embedded by Y7 #ukedchat @mrandmrsteach agree completely see my blog http://westylish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/closing-gapdeveloping-efficient.html?m=1 #ukedchat Wonder sometimes if exercise books are where feedback goes to die. Publicly visible systems (blogs/wikis et al) much more alive. #ukedchat The Granny Cloud - a #RSCON4 presentation proposal
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@syded06

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@rpd1972

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@Jivespin

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@rpd1972

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@syded06

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@MrsPTeach

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@TeacherTweaks

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@Westylish

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@Class_Leading

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@hannahtyreman

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@Smithie_S

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@rpd1972

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@dailydenouement

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@WhiteDebs @miss_tiggr

by @Suneeta. Really looking forward to this :) http://www.futureofeducation.com/forum/topics/thegranny-cloud #edchat #ukedchat @hannahtyreman @dailydenouement exactly Bring their expression of learning into a format you can record your voice over and export #ukedchat #ukedchat I think the only downside to really effective marking &allowing chn time &support to respond is huge amount of time involved 1/2 @LuanCherry #ukedchat Only if the stamps are used indiscriminately #ukedchat 2/2 but well worth it in terms of achievement and pupil progress. You get to know the child's next steps so well. @piersyoung the exercise book has had it's day #ukedchat My favourite assessment stamper encourages oral feedback and allows a record of it and time for it. #ukedchat http://www.mrspteach.com/2013/09/myfavourite-assessment-stamper.html #ukedchat Using ABC (add, build upon, challenge) model of critique to get students familiar with process of drafting, reviewing & editing. Using technology like Edmodo allows for instant feedback http://westylish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/using-edmodo-foranytime-anywhere.html?m=1 #ukedchat #ukedchat Separate out praise and feedback, feedback first then praise when improvement made - courtesy of @ebtnetwork Mark one thing at a time in each piece of work. More focussed anyway and takes far less time #ukedchat @ukedchat @LuanCherry @Jivespin it depends how you use them. If your personalise to the child then there is no issue, surely? #ukedchat @shornymorgan We've started it this year from Y1 to Y6.... It's making a real difference. #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @sgrobinson13: I take 10 home a weekend and another 10 on the Monday - also getting students to peer assess is a great help! @Smithie_S #ukedchat should have said moving on active tips essentially @dailydenouement marking a little each day to keep it
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@Andyphilipday

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@Class_Leading

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@dailydenouement @jackieschneider @syded06 @Class_Leading @dailydenouement @Westylish @simonwithey

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@syded06

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@jackieschneider

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@dailydenouement

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@dailydenouement

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@dailydenouement

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@urban_teacher

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@davidErogers @dailydenouement

manageable-students appreciate the frequency and little/often works! #ukedchat @davidErogers Agree- but many tchers conditioned to thinking there must be an 'observable' trail of fdbck to prove it's being done #ukedchat #ukedchat ...same as feedback first, grades when improvement complete - again courtesy @ebtnetwork @JigsDigsSwigs Lots of advice if you follow the #ukedchat hashtag. We're discussing how to make marking count at the mo. @syded06 @piersyoung ab-so-bloody-lutely! #ukedchat @jackieschneider @piersyoung I know we agree here Jackie :) #ukedchat @hannahtyreman Have had great results doing this #ukedchat Tonight's #ukedchat is all about making marking/feedback count. Please feel free to join in! Really good conversation on #ukedchat tonight regarding feedback. Twitter is brilliant #cpd @jackieschneider #ukedchat but marking should inform your own practice RT @WhiteDebs: #ukedchat get as much information on learning in the lesson as possible - act on misconceptions immediately - hear hear Teachers often misled by neat & tidy presentation. Overworked & tired teachers often judge on superficial i@pressions #ukedchat Do you give more formative or summative feedback? Which do your pupils respond best to? Is there an advantage to no-grade marking? #ukedchat Do you use any templates/proformas for giving feedback? Would you be able to share them with us? #ukedchat What amount of time do you spend on marking per week? Do you think that time is appreciated by your pupils? #ukedchat One form of feedback never works! You need to use a range of feedback techniques so students understand how to progress #ukedchat #ukedchat use social media and other outlets to provide opportunities for feedback from outside the school on work Remember to use the hashtag in every tweet so your
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@susanbanister

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@MrMPritchard

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@MsKateRyan

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@Class_Leading @WhiteDebs @urban_teacher

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@rpd1972

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@TeacherTweaks

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@dailydenouement

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@urban_teacher

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@davidErogers

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@JohnWoottonUK @davidErogers

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@bapED10

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@jackieschneider

contributions can be archived at the end of the hour. #ukedchat @jackieschneider But worksheets are 'easy' to fall back. I know teachers who rely on them #ukedchat I do some focused marking with the child beside me. I explain my thinking, they get immediate feedback...But it takes lots of time #ukedchat @dailydenouement Spread out deadlines between classes and try to mark within 24-48 hours of submission. Stops mountains piling up #ukedchat #ukedchat also teacher mark deeper and less frequently, peer assess more often @Westylish #ukedchat we are trialling #edmondo with our yr 3 to 6 pupils @DameBradburys Effective feedback must be specific, simple, descriptive, & focused on the task. #ukedchat @simonwithey @jackieschneider #ukedchat Definitely, &inform planning, too. Identifying gaps for groups/individuals and planning accordingly #ukedchat When marking I create numbered targets using Taxonomy of Errors (idea from @kevbartle) to stop writing same points endlessly! Sounds fab! #ukedchat RT @SaysMiss: All classes created their own checklist up to success, and gave ambitious and meaningful feedback Teacher Tip: Have students assess themselves & Have students provide feedback for each other #ukedchat #edchat pic.twitter.com/ndZ7NTcL72 #ukedchat example of using twitter for feedback and interaction. Though Quite an old eg now http://daviderogers.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/twitterfacebook-and-teachers-tv.html?m=1 Adding feedback builds relationships ... We all remember that skill ... #UKedchat @Andyphilipday the observable trail is better attainment and achievement. #ukedchat #ukedchat needs to be a tangible change in SLT expectations and ofsted's ideas of 'feedback' a plethora of ways other than book markin! @simonwithey - do we need green pens, stamps & written comments to make professional judgements? #ukedchat
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20:30:55 20:31:04 20:31:18 @susanbanister @davowillz @School_LN

Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

20:31:25

@Jivespin

20:31:26

@dailydenouement

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@syded06 @jackieschneider @simonwithey

20:32:37

@bapED10

20:32:39

@KristianStill

20:32:44

@mrandmrsteach

20:32:57

@mrthomson

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@Jivespin

20:33:20

@WhiteDebs

20:33:23

@miss_tiggr

20:33:35

@syded06

20:33:42

@mrpeel

Technology is ideally placed to enable feedback from peers as well as outside school #ukedchat Does everyone get pupils to traffic light their work and set own targets on first drafts? #ukedchat @dailydenouement 3 weekly cycle. Teacher mark, peer mark, self mark #ukedchat @LuanCherry @Smithie_S I Know but OFSTED are looking at exercise books for evidence even more so now for feedback and progress #ukedchat Could you elaborate? Sounds like great system RT @School_LN: @dailydenouement 3 weekly cycle. Teacher mark, peer mark, self mark #ukedchat If you have tablets in the classroom then I can recommend the following feedback loop . #ukedchat @bapED10 - agree ! #ukedchat @jackieschneider #ukedchat no but we need to be well informed to make professional judgements and prove it through evidence #ukedchat verbal praise much more powerful and precise but hard to evidence for book trawls! @dailydenouement using @dandesignthink books mean feedback is every lessons students use exercise books #ukedchat Formalise approaches to peer assessment e.g students sign & date the work they peer mark. Assess their marking to quality assure #ukedchat A lot of marking is about box-ticking for Teacher Standards. Ensuring the Observer can see the range of techniques used #ukedchat Progress Champions http://wp.me/p3pzMr-j Another positive way of giving feedback #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat Formative as much as possible - in causes growth, summative simply tells you where you are at Students like books-even with 1:1 devices they like being able to flick through and see previous work . easier to highlight fast! #ukedchat Work into interactive whiteboard-annotate, recording thoughts and questions to follow up. Export as movie and ask student to act #ukedchat I will also record feedback as podcast or screencast, ESP after exams. Hwk to listen and make notes for
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@TeacherTweaks

20:34:14

@Andyphilipday

20:34:17

@MrDooleyUK

20:34:19

@SaysMiss

20:34:30

@SteveThursbyMA

20:34:31

@syded06

20:34:41

@dailydenouement

20:34:54

@dailydenouement

20:34:58

@danpo_

20:35:17

@WhiteDebs

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@dailydenouement

20:35:39

@mrpeel

20:35:40

@jackieschneider

20:35:52

@dailydenouement

discussion... #ukedchat #ukedchat When giving verbal feedback, I make students take notes in their books. Interesting to see how they interpret my feedback! @dailydenouement The only summative assmnt shld be final exams of the GCSE/A level. All other shld use the opp. to be formative #ukedchat My marking is either real feedback which is a SMART target requiring active engagement OR for nice comments for parents/inspectors #UKedchat @dailydenouement even my little y7s! FB like 'use inspiring vocab' and 'remember to paragraph your work' went above and beyond LO #ukedchat @dailydenouement don't always give a grade otherwise comments get ignored. #ukedchat @miss_tiggr not sure I agree there at all. Just feels comfortable as it's what they have always done - it changes #ukedchat Daft qu. maybe, but can we learn from the way other key stages are marking? What can we take from colleagues in primary/secondary? #ukedchat How can we make peer/self assessment meaningful/useful? Do you have any hints/tips to share? #ukedchat #ukedchat proof-reading & self-correcting pieces of extended writing before hand in: can take a while at first but mistakes aren't repeated! @davowillz #ukedchat - No, red lights at the end of a piece of work achieve little - that info is needed in the lesson How does your marking inform your planning? How does marking help you? #ukedchat Hide and Seek Give Back Year 9 | English teaching resources example of recorded feedback #ukedchat http://jwpblog.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/hide-and-seekgive-back-year-9/ @simonwithey forgive me but am rather weary of "evidence" when schools manipulate it outrageously & politicians ignore it #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @MrMPritchard: I try to resist grades as often as poss. Focuses on learning & progress & avoids the 'what did I get?' responses
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20:36:04 20:36:08 20:36:13

@BBCWLabs @Andyphilipday @mrthomson

20:36:29

@Class_Leading

20:36:56 20:37:10

@jlog2712 @dailydenouement

20:37:16

@Jivespin

20:37:20

@KristianStill

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@MrMPritchard

20:37:30

@jackieschneider

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@davidErogers

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@dailydenouement

20:37:41

@rpd1972

20:37:56

@mrthomson

20:37:59 20:38:03 20:38:08 20:38:25

@Class_Leading @ukedchat @dailydenouement @susanbanister

We are hosting a tweet chat Mon 5pm for @smwldn with our edtech company @oddizzi join us to discuss #socialmedia in schools #ukedchat @davidErogers Spot on declaration! #ukedchat .@dailydenouement all about giving students time to respond to your feedback (differentiation by marking). Circulating to help #ukedchat @SteveThursbyMA @dailydenouement I agree comment first grade when comments acted upon #ukedchat I prefer to use the term feed forward as it implies that something needs to follow the marking #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @KasiaFKemp: @dailydenouement @ukedchat give examples of what you're looking for. The key to peer assessment is giving students the correct language and structure or else it becomes meaningless #ukedchat @dailydenouement put comments in the margin - makes students turn page and you see students reading comments. #ukedchat @TeacherTweaks @kevbartle #ukedchat I do this too. My feedback sometimes resembles this: "EBI: 2 & 8" @singhdasa: MT my son- messy, untidy, poor punctuation, but fantastic content ignored by measuring criteria#ukedchat @Andyphilipday I think many forget that it's about learning over time rather than within lessons. #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @KasiaFKemp: we use steps for success with must, should and could statements to aid independence and challenge. @dailydenouement #ukedchat Marking shows me gaps or misconceptions for groups/individuals. I always plan with those in mind .@dailydenouement @MrMPritchard I only grade end of unit assessments. I talk about grades with oral responses in lessons #ukedchat @dailydenouement Start by having clear goals or success criteria and focus all marking on that #ukedchat RT @toppsines: @Jivespin #ukedchat ooohhhh love it! Bet Mr.O won't. Please remember the hashtag folks! #ukedchat It is important to teach students how to give feedback to
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@DanielleMF

20:38:42

@SaysMiss

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@dannidid

20:39:02

@Jivespin

20:39:06

@Literacy_Trust

20:39:07

@TeacherTweaks

20:39:37

@syded06

20:39:39

@ukedchat

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@simonwithey

20:39:47

@MsKateRyan

20:40:09

@School_LN

20:40:19

@dailydenouement

20:40:26

@dannidid

20:40:27 20:40:30

@dailydenouement @Oddizzi

#lessonforlife #ukedchat Give students the chance to reflect on feedback and then spend time improving their work in lesson #ukedchat #feedback #marking Have set long term homework for all of ks3 to complete alongside weekly short tasks- high expectations sets up for autonomy at ks4 #ukedchat Chn write LO & traffic light understanding then teach lesson & they traffic light again. Shows progression/next step/strugglers #ukedchat @toppsines @ukedchat Probably not this week, but maybe next week #ukedchat Visualiser is a great tool for feedback and discussion as a whole class. Helps build quality talk about writing #ukedchat #ukedchat This year, setting myself challenge of making vids of me practising key Eng skills & getting students to watch them after feedback Do parents really want to hear 'she underlines correctly, has lovely handwriting and the presentation is excellent'!!? #ukedchat RT @KasiaFKemp: @dailydenouement #ukedchat allow time to respond to marking I.e plan for it in lessons. @jackieschneider #ukedchat forget the politicians and remember it's your children's educational outcomes are more important @dailydenouement Marking students' original writing can reveal a lot about them and is often a privilege, not a chore. #ukedchat @dailydenouement 3 weekly cycle where 1 piece of work is assessed against success criteria. strengths and areas to develop listed #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @JamesJMatthews: @dailydenouement Good question! How useful would a learning journey be beyond EYFS? Biggest problem with marking/feedback is consistency and giving children time to read/respond to feedback to make it meaningful #ukedchat What quality assurance/scrutiny of marking is there in your school? Is it effective or worthwhile? #ukedchat What's your opinion on #socialmediainschools? We're hosting a tweetchat with @BBCWLabs on Mon 23 5pm
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@Literacy_Trust

20:40:38

@rpd1972

20:40:46

@Class_Leading

20:40:48

@Grevster73

20:40:50 20:40:57 20:41 20:41:07 20:41:10 20:41:21

@SaysMiss @MrAColley @DanielleMF @jackieschneider @WhiteDebs @rpd1972

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@davidErogers

20:41:27

@Jivespin

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@TeacherTweaks

20:41:43

@ukedchat

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@MrMPritchard

20:41:49

@SaysMiss

for @smwldn Join the debate! #ukedchat @Andyphilipday @davidErogers If you want an evidence trail, you could film oral feedback #ukedchat @Jivespin #ukedchat Peer assessment needs lots and lots of modelling too. Whole class assessment using visualiser is a good place to start. @dailydenouement... also keep tasks open so learners more creative and can show what they can do, promotes deeper marking #ukedchat @syded06 sadly they do! Schools have to work with parents to understand and manage expectations. #ukedchat Beyond raising awareness of the mark scheme, how do you ensure meaningful FB for ks4? #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat Just tweeted a link to my teachtweet vid about feedback & feed forward. Pair up students with similar ability students for more effective peer marking/assessment #ukedchat @simonwithey - for school maybe! #ukedchat @jlog2712 #ukedchat like that! @dannidid #ukedchat what age chn writing LO? Research shows writing out LOs can be detrimental to learning! @Literacy_Trust @Andyphilipday is there an improvement in attainment and achievement over time? otherwise it's tick box #ukedchat @rpd1972 .. as well as using the mark scheme so they are focused on what they are being assessed against #ukedchat @syded06 #ukedchat Sadly from my experience they do! Most parents ask me about that at Parents Evening... :-/ Join @mathsdirectory for #ukedchat on Thurs @8pm See the poll @ http://ukedchat.com/poll/ Get the UKedchat bulletin at http://ukedchat.us7.listmanage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 An outstanding colleague this week told me he got y11 students to write feedback on y9 answers (revision for y11, bonus for y9) #ukedchat KS4 need to understand the value of formative assessment instead of apathy that then turns to blind panic! #ukedchat
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@davidErogers

20:41:55

@davidErogers

20:42:02

@TeamTait

20:42:05

@SteveThursbyMA

20:42:07

@SaysMiss

20:42:07 20:42:08

@syded06 @rpd1972

20:42:16

@janeconsidine

20:42:20

@Class_Leading

20:42:20

@ukcreativeed

20:42:28

@MrMPritchard

20:42:39

@jmfcuk

20:42:40

@rpd1972

20:42:45

@SaysMiss

20:42:46 20:42:49

@dailydenouement @School_LN

@Andyphilipday absolutely. It turns into a tick box thing that you are made to do rather than essential for learning #ukedchat #ukedchat without accurate assessment of where children are, you can't plan lessons. Is grading work the biggest barrier to student improvement? See the results from my in-school research http://www.edutait.com/?p=590 #UKedchat @MrMPritchard @dailydenouement excellent idea get other students to do your marking and they learn at the same time. #ukedchat Feedback should be in the form of a Q, not an instruction.Ss not only HAVE to respond, but it asks for a better quality f response #UKedchat @Grevster73 agreed. There is a learning curve for everyone #ukedchat @Jivespin #ukedchat yes, I use marking ladders for writing, my Y2/3s might find mark schemes a little tricky! RT @jackieschneider: If kids were did more real life tasks then would get more genuine feedback. Too many worksheets still #ukedchat <agreed @Jivespin @rpd1972 to true - that is one reason why I like Badger assessments for Science #ukedchat Making marking&feedback meaningful-give(&encourage peers to give)quality feedback aimed@furthering learning-not2create audit trail #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat This now rests with HoDs chez nous - they know what effective feedback looks like in their subject @davidErogers #ukedchat people do though, the problem is expecting your lessons to meet every learning obj and just follow through SOW. RT @davidErogers: #ukedchat without accurate assessment of where children are, you can't plan lessons. Couldn't agree more! You cannot effectively plan without marking and formative FB. To say otherwise is like swimming in the dark! #ukedchat #engteacherproblems If you're just joining us, tonight's #ukedchat is all about how to making marking/feedback meaningful. enjoy using edmodo for instant feedback, currently developing the use of padlet for multi instant feedback
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20:42:50 20:42:52 20:43:04 20:43:24

@ukcreativeed @davidErogers @jackieschneider @Jivespin

20:43:28 20:43:31 20:43:37

@mrthomson @davidErogers @dailydenouement

20:43:39

@syded06

20:43:46

@ukcreativeed

20:43:47

@davidhunter

20:44:05

@jnrchefs

20:44:08

@ukedchat

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@dailydenouement

20:44:17 20:44:26

@mrpeel @rpd1972

#ukedchat Allow students time to consider, think, reflect, discuss, construct their feedback- forming opinions out loud #ukedchat @jmfcuk totally agree #ukedchat @TheTeacher6 - I think a lot of our schools do a HUGE disservice to children #ukedchat @rpd1972 Sorry - I had my secondary teacher's hat on #ukedchat Making a mark scheme for peer/self assessment is ALWAYS quicker than marking a whole class set of that work. Must be done at times #ukedchat @rpd1972 but it doesn't mean just marking #ukedchat RT @dailydenouement: Do you have any top time-saving tips when it comes to marking? How can we make it more efficient? #ukedchat @dailydenouement Senior leaders must ensure school policy is in line with effective feedback and not a tick-box exercise #ukedchat Provide structured feedback frame for verbal / written peer evaluation - encouraging students to justify and use key vocab #ukedchat #ukedchat IMMEDIATE teacher led feedback has greatest inf. on std. achievement.Video feedback therefore HAS to be the answer to reach ALL Interesting article on the benefits of #free #schoolmeals for everyone http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/primaryeducation/1 0318087/Everyone-benefits-from-free-school-meals.html #school #health #edchat #ukedchat Join the 771 educators who have subscribed to the free #ukedchat bulletin with news & the best posts on the hashtag. http://ukedchat.us7.listmanage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 #ukedchat RT @MrMPritchard: definitely a time-saver for the teacher & maybe more effective (more respect for older students' comments?) @dailydenouement as @MrMPritchard says, the key is allowing different forms of feedback in different subjects. No one way fits all #ukedchat @Jivespin #ukedchat That's ok, my y12 son responds
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@with_ict

20:44:40

@SaysMiss

20:44:44

@ukedchat

20:44:45

@jmfcuk

20:44:46

@rpd1972

20:44:48

@Literacy_Trust

20:44:56

@WhiteDebs

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@Class_Leading

20:45:06

@Andyphilipday

20:45:07

@ukcreativeed

20:45:14

@dailydenouement

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@flawedheroine

20:45:20

@with_ict

20:45:38

@davidErogers

really well to having a mark scheme in front of him, knows what he is aiming for then @dailydenouement only comment on one thing. Eg one focused part of the LI. #ukedchat Peer assessment gives students the responsibility that they secretly crave- be the teacher for ten minutes! #ukedchat How different is marking / feedback from different sectors? For example, the change pupils receive compared from prim to 2nd'ry? #ukedchat #ukedchat Split work between for learning and for assessment. Focuses marking & students like showing off their best work on special tasks. @davidErogers #ukedchat no, especially with young chn. Plan activities so they can show you what they can do & highlight any gaps, too @davidErogers @Andyphilipday Pupils write cold text at start then final piece at end. Put together in book to show progress #ukedchat @syded06 @dailydenouement #ukedchat - absolutely agree @dailydenouement have seen some fantastic work by @burdonsteve on feedback using tech - realy time savers! #ukedchat @rpd1972 @daviderogers - & to plan for effctve fdbck needs a deep awareness of 'progress criteria' in yr subject. Iffy for some #ukedchat Use questioning/suggestions in marking rather than making comments. Then have time to meet student and discuss their response #ukedchat We have 'purple pens of progress' - pupils redraft/act on marking in purple. Easy to see & makes it 'special' #ukedchat @mrthomson: Making a mark scheme for peer/self assessment is ALWAYS quicker than marking. Must be done at times #ukedchat Word. Also there are marking grids for writing on #lendmeyourliteracy that are differentiated and easy #ukedchat @WhiteDebs @jmfcuk it's a good technique as long as it's not overused. Can discourage development of extended answers for eg #ukedchat
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@rpd1972

20:46:19

@ChrisChivers2

20:46:20

@davidErogers

20:46:21

@MrMPritchard

20:46:28

@ukedchat

20:46:33

@rpd1972

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@ukcreativeed

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@simonwithey @ukedchat

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@with_ict

20:46:56 20:46:56 20:47:06

@ukcreativeed @WhiteDebs @SaysMiss

20:47:06

@yesiamemmab

20:47:18

@ukedchat

20:47:19 20:47:29

@davidErogers @dailydenouement

@Andyphilipday @daviderogers #ukedchat Yes, very real need to know where chn should be and how to get them there. #ukedchat If lesson focus clear, learners highlight where they have demonstrated achievement; mark against detail then overview. @Andyphilipday @rpd1972 agree - subject knowledge and knowledge of your curriculum is vital #ukedchat @with_ict @dailydenouement #ukedchat I like this: focused marking on 1 aspect of criteria. Good for MFL (you could correct everything!) Does feedback / marking have a place for consideration for pupils in transition from primary to secondary? #UKEdchat Where is the burden? #ukedchat Love the idea of older chn marking younger chn's work. Wonder if it would work in primary... Y6 marking Y3 for example? Provide three things to improve and explain how. When work is resubmitted- only comment on the changes&provide three more targets #ukedchat #ukedchat don't forget #EducatingYorkshire @channel4 tonight at 09:00pm @rpd1972 That would be good, as it gives pupils a greater sense of 'writing for a purpose' #UKEdchat @MrMPritchard @dailydenouement agreed! A writing lesson where poor spelling is the comment is my pet hate! #ukedchat Ask for work sent electronically- mark in one colour redraft changes in a second colour #ukedchat @davidErogers @jmfcuk can see that- although for primary maths it is superb! #ukedchat Teaching Ss to celebrate each other's positives is more difficult than fault finding #ukedchat #ukedchat mark to a success criteria, allow children access throughout lesson of how to reach next level and mark to this @rpd1972 ...And also a great sense of responsibility for the Y6'ers to look out for things that they should be doing. #UKEdchat Great idea. @WhiteDebs @jmfcuk top point. That's about knowing your context and curriculum. #ukedchat How do we help students become more effective peer
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@natgon90

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@rpd1972

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@ukedchat

20:47:47

@SaysMiss

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@yesiamemmab

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@mrtpolitics @ukedchat

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@KMarlow1

20:49:01

@mrthomson

20:49:05

@dailydenouement

20:49:20

@SaysMiss

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@ukedchat

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@jamiedavies

20:49:36 20:49:37 20:49:40

@SomerseteSafe @ukedchat @MissHorsfall

assessors? I'm not sure I get it right. #ukedchat I haven't had a chance to sit down and relax once this week? School is hectic!! Anyone e,se feeling more pressure? #ukedchat #edchat #teach @ukedchat #ukedchat Yes, I think I feel some action research coming on! Would be valuable for both ages of pupil I think. RT @JamesJMatthews: #ukedchat In Jersey we now send books up from Y6 to their new secondary schools. Books are continued until half term. We should focus on developing Ss ability to ask provoking Qs as part of peer assessment #ukedchat #ukedchat if they haven't achieved what was wanted, marking tells the this and lessons should allow sufficient time to edit and try again! I keep my feedback kit in a big Lego box because we are building on progress #ukedchat @JamesJMatthews Is that quite simple/easy to manage? #UKEdchat @dailydenouement We are trialling literacy feedback stickers with key features of a good paragraph listed to identify www & ebi. #ukedchat .@dailydenouement practice, clarity of the success criteria and time. That makes the best peer assessors! #ukedchat So, in the last 10 minutes, any key ideas you'll take away from tonight's discussion? #ukedchat @marind_anim @pivotalpaul I often write a piece and get them to mark and assess me- creates a safe environment to destroy my work! #ukedchat @dailydenouement I think that is tough, as there are many also personal factors in play #UKEdchat Teaching Critical Thinking in Psychology http://bit.ly/1aWJYPz #psychat #psychedchat #psychology #criticalthinking #MSc #teaching #ukedchat RT @stephen_j_duffy:The weakest area in schools around #esafety remains staff training. Annual report finds http://bit.ly/19cXUPZ #ukedchat @rpd1972 Great minds thinking alike ;-) #UKEdchat I sometimes tick good features, then ask children what their ticks are for, if I'm really stuck for a comment! #ukedchat
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20:49:41

@dailydenouement

20:49:47

@passionateaboot

20:49:48

@jamiedavies

20:50 20:50:11

@rpd1972 @SteveThursbyMA

20:50:16

@ukedchat

20:50:19

@susanbanister

20:50:26

@ukedchat

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@dailydenouement

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@ukedchat

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@MissHorsfall

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@mrpeel

20:51:55 20:52:13 20:52:16 20:52:17

@ukcreativeed @WhiteDebs @ukedchat @dailydenouement

I am definitely going to use the 6th form essays in folder & rewrite for revision technique suggested earlier #ukedchat @marksalts So that's what others think looking in - is that what we really want? Teaching as a trade rather than a profession? #ukedchat IDEA-OLOGY - introducing projective and psychometric tests http://bit.ly/1a7Esp5 #psyedchat #psychat #criticalthinking #ukedchat #teaching @dailydenouement #ukedchat Key idea for me... Definitely going to try marking between year groups! @dailydenouement #ukedchat by ensuring they understand the criteria that they are assessing against. RT @JamesJMatthews: #ukedchat We have a good internal post system! Y6 teachers post them off to respective schools during last week of term "@coachtonymee: @susanbanister been discussing peer reviewing on FA Advanced a Youth Award last few days." >definitely worthwhile #ukedchat The #UKEdchat survey results are being revealed tomorrow, exclusive to our e-bulletin subscribers. Sign up via http://ukedchat.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 Any key ideas or suggestions you'll take away from tonight's discussion? #ukedchat RT @truan_steve: @JamesJMatthews #ukedchat like that but we have 26 diff schools feed into us <-I had similar thought. Easier on Jersey? Writing a quick note about a discussion that's taken place is also helpful, evidence of feedback happening #ukedchat #ukedchat #ukedchat I often write marginalia and then ask students to read the work and the comments before writing their own formatives Peer assessment split into roles-each group looking4specific element in the work&providing 1positive comment, 1 thing2improve&how #ukedchat @rpd1972 @dailydenouement - Me too #ukedchat @rpd1972 I will be in touch, if ok. Would like to follow that through #UKEdchat Any final top tips about meaningful marking for our last 8 minutes? #ukedchat
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Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@RachelOrr

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@piersyoung

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@Andyphilipday

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@ukedchat @MrDooleyUK @rpd1972

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@Jivespin

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@shaun_allison @susanbanister @piersyoung

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@ukcreativeed

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@missumb

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@theICTadvisor

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@ukedchat

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@dailydenouement @ukedchat

#ukedchat already planning yr 11 marking yr 10 next week. Great idea. Give 4 students marked work and 4 sets of feedback on strips of paper. Students have to work out which feedback matches the work. #ukedchat @dailydenouement: So, any key ideas you'll take away from tonight's discussion? < Yup. #ukedchat is great CPD. @dailydenouement They may fear that they're not awarding peer the right 'mark'. Encourage them to see it as 'kind, helpful advice' #ukedchat @mrpeel Are the pupils less likely to know each other? #UKEdchat @MissHorsfall I'm a big fan of this sort of thing and will start doing it more formally in future. Cheers.#ukedchat @ukedchat yes, that would be great. I'm quite excited by the idea! #ukedchat NEW POST - Independent Learning grid http://wp.me/p3pzMr-8q As requested during the #ukedchat chat on feedback. Hope it is useful #ukedchat Our students had some thoughts on feedback today http://classteaching.wordpress.com/ @RachelOrr Love that! #ukedchat @MissHorsfall #ukedchat love the what are the ticks for idea - thanks plan time in lesson2stop work& check against a list of what has been included/done then return2work to complete before submitting #ukedchat @Jivespin I was handing these out as a gift to all our teachers this morning an it was like Christmas- they love them! #ukedchat iPads in the Classroom: Free Times Tables Apps for iPads http://theictadvisors.co.uk/ipads-in-the-classroomtimes-tables-apps/ #ukedchat #edchat #edchatie Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts? Sign up to the bulletin at http://ukedchat.us7.listmanage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 Me too! RT @piersyoung: @MissHorsfall #ukedchat love the what are the ticks for idea - thanks RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat curiously little knowledge between the years. Becomes revision for 11s and useful
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ukedchat Archive 19th September 2013 Hosted by @dailydenouement

Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@jackieschneider

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@rpd1972

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@Jivespin

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@RachelOrr

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@ukcreativeed

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@dailydenouement

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@ukedchat @ukedchat

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@ukedchat

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@dailydenouement

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@rpd1972 @ChrisChivers2

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@RachelOrr

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@jackieschneider @dailydenouement

thoughts for 10s <-Love the idea @dailydenouement personal, specific & SMART. Doesn't have to be written & colour of ink is IRRELEVANT, chance for kid to respond #ukedchat @piersyoung @misshorsfall #ukedchat love the what are the ticks for idea - thanks. Me too, definitely going to try this too! @missumb If used in the right way they are amazing #ukedchat Pupil becomes the editor for another pupil for a written task before teacher marks. Editor must be confident work is good enough. #ukedchat Self evaluation on video- pair work- one films the other as an interview (teacher or student written Qs)&submits video 2be marked #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @murphiegirl: FiSH feedback is simple but very effective. Based on Ron Berger model : http://edulike.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/fish-and-tips.html? m=1 Nice ideas @RachelOrr #ukedchat RT @teechit: #ukedchat I think sending books up a great idea but our Secondary School don't seem to think it would be useful. Join the 772 educators who have subscribed to the free #ukedchat bulletin with news & the best posts on the hashtag. http://ukedchat.us7.listmanage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 Where did that hour go? We're coming to the end of tonight's #ukedchat but thanks so much for all your contributions. Hope it was useful! #ukedchat Really enjoyed tonight's discussion. Sharing across the key stages is such good CPD. @RachelOrr Could be adapted as "post-it " marking? #ukedchat Peer review approach, work not written on. Students writing test questions and answers for other students to show understanding of what they've learned. #ukedchat #ukedchat - just to clarify. I love my job. Most teachers I know work incredibly hard BUT we don't do enough to challenge sloppy & poor TBC I think so too. Lots to learn! RT @rpd1972: #ukedchat
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Effective feedback - How do you make your marking count?

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@ukedchat @dawn_room39

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@ukedchat

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@mrpeel @Jivespin @Pekabelo @ukedchat

Really enjoyed tonight's discussion. Sharing across the key stages is such good CPD. Some great idea sharing on #UKEdchat this evening. @dailydenouement on TOP form, thanks Clare #ukedchat I use a verbal feedback stamp and my students make notes on the advice given. Vote for your favourite #ukedchat topic on the poll at http://ukedchat.com/poll/ & join the discussion on Thurs at 8pm. Cheers Claire- a great session, even after prize giving at school! #ukedchat Thanks to @dailydenouement for a great #ukedchat - as ever the best CPD around. John Mitchell @Jivespin 1m It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @dailydenouement for hosting tonights #ukedchat. The archive will be at http://ukedchat.com/2013/09/19/session-169/ soon.

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