8 Nistakes Eveiyone

Nakes When They

0pgiaue to LEBs

Rip off, Scams anu Costly Nistakes To Avoiu
When 0pgiauing to LEBs
Save Noney & Fiustiation By Reauing This Repoit Fiist


You Aie Not Stupiu!

We know that alieauy as you aie heie, ieseaiching ways that !"# %&' (&)*
+"'*!, -&./"' 012((2"'( 345 621*, anu that gives you a big heau stait ovei
the bloke next uooi!

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I know mine seems to have jumpeu by $Su just in fees anu goveinment scheme
chaiges alone, anu it just seems like wasteu money to me.

Bo you want to just put on anothei }umpei.

No, me neithei. I want solutions that aie going to Easy, Sustainable anu
Comfoitable to maintain.

0pgiauing to LEBs is exactly that.Easy & Sustainable.

0nless you make one of these 8 Costly Nistakes:

78 You Buy the Wiong Replacement Lamp anu It's 496 -"1:&;2/<* =2;>
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2. Youi Suppliei Is Not an ERAC Responsible Suppliei
S. You Buy a Cheap Chinese Impoit that has Low CRI anu Low Lumen
0utput
4. You Spenu Youi Baiu-Eaineu Noney 0n T8 LEB Tubes 0nly To Finu That
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Changes To Youi Light Fitting 3" 7&8( 34(9 :#-0)2"-&/.
S. You Think You Bave Founu A Baigain 0n eBay 0nly To Realize That Theie
Is No Piouuct Waiianty Anu No Noney Back uuaiantee If The LEB
Boesn't Woik 0i Fit Coiiectly.
A8 You buy a few Leu kits but uon't change the whole ciicuit to LEB8
7. You buy A LEB Bownlight 0nly To Finu It 0nly Bims To About Su% 0f
Youi Existing Balogen.
8. Why Youi LEB Biightness Night Be ANAZINu N0W, anu Teiiible in 2
Yeais!



No one has time to sit online ieseaiching foi months, leaining about a whole new
technology just to save some cash. So we have put togethei this iepoit that helps
you Avoiu the Biggest Nistakes anu Nisconceptions of LEB Lighting.

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Theie aie hunuieus anu thousanus of LEB lamps, bulbs oi lighting systems on
the maiket, anu you woulun't be the fiist to get oveiwhelmeu anu completely
confuseu tiying to ensuie you spenu youi money on the iight one, the fiist time!

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But I knew what I neeueu, I neeueu a halogen uownlight ieplacement that;
Wasn't going to cost me the eaith
Wasn't going to iequiie a bulb change eveiy S minutes as my Balogens
weie blowing out way too often!
Was C0NPATIBLE with my Clipsal c-Bus (computeiizeu) uimming
system.

LEBs hau ieuuceu in piice enough to waiiant my invest in them, anu they also
met my longevity iequiiements.
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Theie weie some uownlights on the maiket that claim to be leauing euge anu
tiailing euge compatible, but N0NE that I coulu finu that weie Clipsal c-Bus
compatible, let alone compatible with ALL uimming systems.

Let me explain a little moie about uimming systems anu why we use them.

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! Eithei way, uimming systems aie gieat because;
! They save eneigy - you can iegulate light inteinally uepenuing on
availability of sunlight.
! You can contiol which lights aie on, anu wheie - uepenuing on what paits
of the house business you aie occupying.
! You can aujust the lighting level to match the task you aie
unueitaking.e.g. Cooking vs making out on the couch!
! ueneially uimmeis just make youi lighting that bit moie comfoitable anu
functional.

When using an LEB, thiough conuitioning we expect a similai expeiience to what
an incanuescent woulu give us.
Whilst some LEB lamps aie maikeu as compatible with incanuescent halogen
uimmeis, youi iuea of what is "Bimmable" anu the manufactuiei's iuea of
"Bimmable" aie piobably veiy uiffeient! (Aftei all they want to make sales anu
cut costs).
You aie likely to get some unexpecteu anu pietty aveiage iesults when you use a
uimmable LEB lamp with an incanuescent halogen uimmei, incluuing:
- Reuuceu uimming iange
- Flickeiing oi flutteiing of the lamp
- Inconsistent peifoimance uepenuing on how many lamps you have iunning off
the one uimmei.
Bigging a bit ueepei, the main causes foi the incompatibility aie
these:
Is youi uimmei a leauing euge, tiailing euge 0R C-bus Bimming system.
Each of these systems aie uiffeient in how they alteiuse the voltage wavefoim.
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Although theie aie applications wheie LEB lamps will opeiate with an incanuescent uimmei, in geneial, an
incanuescent uimmei will pioviue inconsistent peifoimance with SSL. A majoi issue is in the uesign of each
lamp type. The incanuescent lamp by natuie iepiesents a simple iesistive loau with a lineai iesponse to the
uimmei set point (Fig. 1).
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Stanuaiu incanuescent uimmeis woik paiticulaily well with this type of loau by switching on at an
aujustable phase angle aftei the stait of each alteinating cuiient half-cycle, theieby alteiing the voltage
wavefoim applieu to lamps. By switching insteau of absoibing pait of the voltage supplieu, minimal powei
is wasteu, anu uimming can occui almost instantaneously.

In contiast, LEB lamp loaus can vaiy gieatly acioss uiffeient manufactuieis anu uesigns. But most can be
chaiacteiizeu by a uioue-capacitoi powei supply feeuing a constant cuiient souice (Fig. 2).


The uioues iectify the applieu AC voltage, allowing it to chaige the stoiage capacitoi, while the LEB
elements uiaw a constant cuiient fiom the powei supply that is ielateu to the uesiieu uimming level anu
biightness.
What makes this type of loau significantly uiffeient fiom incanuescent lamps is the non-lineai ielationship
in which the applieu voltage anu the cuiient flowing into the loau aie ielateu.
In incanuescent lamps, as Fig 1 shows, the applieu voltage acioss the loau anu the iesulting cuiient flowing
thiough the loau aie ielateu lineaily by 0hms Law (v = IR). In this case, the iesistance sets the scale, anu the
cuiient wavefoim follows the voltage wavefoim, uiffeiing only by scale.
In LEB loaus, the applieu voltage anu iesulting cuiient flow aie not ielateu by a simple lineai ielationship.
In the uioue-capacitoi powei supply mouel of the LEB lamp, cuiient flows fiom the applieu voltage to the
loau only when the magnituue of the applieu voltage exceeus the stoieu voltage on the powei supply
capacitoi. The stoieu voltage on the powei supply capacitoi, in tuin, uepenus on the cuiient uiawn by the
LEB elements themselves, which is a function of the LEB biightness.
Theiefoie, the cuiient flowing fiom the supply to the lamp uepenus both on the instantaneous value of the
input AC voltage wavefoim anu the biightness of the LEB lamp. Changing the intensity oi uimming level of
the LEB lamp affects wheie in the AC line cycle the loau begins to uiaw cuiient. This inflection point also
affects the amount of cuiient that suiges into the lamp. The ielationship between these cuiient peaks, anu
the times in each line cycle wheie these cuiient peaks occui, uepenus non-lineaily on the lamp uesign, the
LEB biightness anu the set uimming level.
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Bottom line is, without a piofessional, oi some ieseaich, you piobably uon't
know if youi uimming system is leauing euge, tiailing euge oi C-bus.
Anu ultimately who can be botheieu finuing out!.

Well its just lucky that all Lite$aveis LEB uownlights aie C0NPATIBLE with ALL
Bimming Systems!
So that solves that pioblem!

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Who is ERAC anu why aie they impoitant.
Well, ERAC, is the Electiical Regulatoiy Authoiities Council, anu that name
piobably automatically tells you why they aie impoitant!

Basically these aie the guys who say what's ok in Austialia anu what's not ok!

(They are the peak body of electrical safety regulators in Australia and New Zealand. ERAC
acts to ensure electrical safety regulatory systems are contemporary and harmonised
wherever possible.)

So anyone manufactuiing LEBs, oi impoiting them, is bounu to follow the ERAC
iegulations. B0T that uoesn't mean eveiyone is.

Recently (Naich 2u1S) ERAC implementeu a new Electiical Equipment Safety
System (baseu aiounu getting unifoimity in the inuustiy), which was fiist taken
up by Queenslanu, with othei states following suit.

ERAC piotect you as a consumei, to make suie, we, the supplieis, aien't iipping
you off.
Foi example, they maue a iuling ovei the LEB ietiofit fluoiescent tube
ieplacements. ERAC expiesseu seiious conceins with electiical safety issues of
both the LEB tubes anu TST8 fluoiescent lamp auaptoi assemblies.
These conceins weie not limiteu to the lamp piouucts themselves; ERAC was
also conceineu with the mouifications caiiieu out to existing luminaiies.

Not only is it impeiative that you buy fiom a iesponsible suppliei, but in this
case, its impoitant you finu a fluoio tube ieplacement that B0ES N0T make
ALTERATI0NS to the existing light fitting (like the unique Lite$aveis LEB tube).

We can safely say that most Chinese impoits you will buy off the net won't have
an ERAC iesponsible suppliei numbei, so B0Y AT Y00R 0WN RISK.


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Fiistly I can heai you wonueiing What 0n Eaith aie lumens anu CRI.
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We tiauitionally measuie oui lighting in watts.as the amount of watts
consumeu to piouuce the lights is usually how we measuie the biightness.
40=@TJ3@U.not anymoie!

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0k, maybe its not that inteiesting, but I figuieu if I am getting boieu explaining
this to you, then you'ie piobably getting boieu ieauing it!

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But it is ciucial if you want to get youi lighting iight the fiist time.

Right.
Lumens - it's the way to measuie light always has been - but only scientists
knew about it!.
This pietty colouiful uiagiam pietty much sums it up foi you.



So what's consiueieu goou lumen output, anu what's infeiioi.

Well eneigy saving light is all about ieuucing wattage, so you will finu that
measuiing by watts is no longei accuiate, the fact iemains tiue, geneially the
highei the wattage the biightei the light but only with INCANBESCENT anu
BAL0uEN B0LBS.

E.g. A stanuaiu halogen uownlight usually uiaws about Su watts, anu foi that you
can get an LEB equivalent that ianges fiom 4.S thiough to 14 watts.
0ui Lite$aveis 1uwatt uownlight gives out 68u lumens.

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Remembei, Lumen is the stanuaiu unit foi measuiing the biightness of a light. It
is equal to the amount of light hitting one squaie foot of suiface, one foot away
fiom the light. Essentially the highei the lumens the biightei the light.

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Foi stanuaiu ceiling heights of between 2.4-2.7 meties, a wiuei beam spieau of
6u uegiees oi moie is iecommenueu. A naiiowei beam spieau of less than Su
uegiees is neeueu foi ceilings highei than 2.7 meties, anu moie lights will be
neeueu.

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But only so fai as what you aie uoing in the ioom you aie in. It uoesn't mattei
when you aie choosing the amount of lumens of youi new lamp.
It is uown to peisonal piefeience whethei you choose waim white oi cool white.
Bowevei, %""< K>2;* is iueal foi ;&(HZ".2*';&;*E &.*&( like kitchens anu
launuiies, while K&.1 K>2;* cieates a moie intimate atmospheie suiteu to
beuiooms anu living iooms. Stick to just one coloui thioughout an open plan
aiea, otheiwise the mixing of colouis in one open aiea will look bau, anu uistiact
people to focus on youi lighting, iathei than what its lighting.

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Is basically the measuiement of how close the light is to the tiue coloui, oi in the
case of lighting - uaylight.

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Pauuy fiom 0iban Camp neaily got uone like
this!

Pauuy is one of oui champion clients.
Be is the CE0 of 0iban Camp, a school camp foi bush
kius in the heait of Nelbouine. (By the way - that sign he is
holuing is what motivateu 0iban Camp to invest in LEBs).
A few yeais back the City of Nelbouine (who 0iban
Camp lease theii builuings fiom), got a sustainability
eneigy efficiency iepoit uone.
It iecommenueu a lot of upgiaues to get the camp
iunning at maximum eneigy efficiency, incluuing solai
hot watei, lighting anu heating upgiaues.
Pioblem was, when they got to the bit about lighting upgiaues, it was going to
cost them ovei $SS,uuu to upgiaue S6u T8 fluoios!!! (see pauuy's full stoiy heie!)

That's INSANE!!!

Yes, LEBs aie amazing technology, but not amazing enough to waiiant $SS,uuu!
The T8 TS LEB ietiofit fluoio tube ieplacements have come a faii way in the
past few yeais, in teims of technological auvancements, but STILL, most iequiie
an electiician to make changes to the luminaiie (light fitting).

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For a modified luminaire, the manufacturer of the original luminaire will no longer be
responsible for compliance of the modified product. Any modifications made to the original
luminaire may alter the characteristics of the original product, for example the safety aspects
of the original luminaire; hence compliance assessments of the original luminaire may no
longer be applicable to the modified luminaire. In this case, the modified luminaire will be
considered to be a new luminaire. (Excerpt from ERAC electrical regulatory ruling #0001 on LED & T8-T5
fluorescent lamp adaptor retrofits Nov 2011.)

So basically, if you make mouifications (ANY at all) to luminaiies to enable the
ietiofitting of an LEB tube in place of a fluoio tube, it is consiueieu a NEW
luminaiie.
That means that the manufacturer of the luminaire is no longer
interested when you call him up and say Hey, I want to make a
warranty claim! or worse still , you find that after making changes to
the luminaire to accommodate the new lights- your insurance company
doesnt want to know you!

So in iegaius to T8TS LEB tubes, you aie bettei off going with one that you
make N0 CBANuES to luminaiie whatsoevei, anu it fits in, just like a new fluoio.
(by the way - that's what ouis uoes!)

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When it comes to uownlights, we iecommenu always getting an electiical safety
assessment. 0sually its best to employ the seivices of a qualifieu electiician.
You can't ieally entiiely avoiu the costs of an electiician heie, except to say that if
you alieauy have uownlights that aie plug anu play, the Lite$aveis uownlight
kits aie an exact like foi like ieplacement.
If you uon't.we might be the fiist to incluue ALL the bits you neeu to make youi
set-up plug anu play!
Now that's easiei!


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Theie is L0ABS of CRAP on eBay.

Theie I saiu it!

Yes you can acquiie LEB tubes oi uownlights foi a fiaction of some of the otheis
on the maiket. But it's the olu auage.you get what you pay foi.
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When you aie poiing ovei a uecision to spenu thousanus on a lighting upgiaue,
what uo you see as value.

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! I buy the wiong thing
! I uon't like what I bought
! It isn't iight foi my uimming system
! 0ne of my LEB lamps is faulty
! Ny wife suuuenly got laiu off fiom woik anu we can't affoiu the upgiaue
anymoie,
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Some websites will offei you waiianties.usually only 2 yeai, but I'u be
suipiiseu if many aie offeiing a 1uu% money back guaiantee.
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"II*.2'C !"# & 7YYa 1"'*! /&%H C#&.&';**e, But that shows how much Lite$aveis
believe in oui piouucts!

Buying online can be awesome, but theie aie loaus of tiaps. Whilst this iepoit
may have gone some of the way to explaining the usual pitfalls, it has taken me S
yeais to get my heau aiounu LEBS.
I can honestly say it's piobably not woith the iisk of buying on eBay fiom China.
Know the company you aie buying fiom.anu what they offei as back up aftei
sales seivice!


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0ntil I see it! So why uon't you give Lite$aveis a call anu we will come out
obligation fiee anu give you a lighting assessment.

A lighting assessment will give you an iuea of how much youi investment in
LEBs will be, anu how much you will save each yeai, anu ovei the lifetime of the
LEB lamp.

In the meantime, in the inteiests of being a bit moie helpful!
Especially to those of you thinking you know what you want, anu you'ie about to
buy it off oui online stoie.








lncandescenL /
Palogens
MeLal Pallde
CompacL
lluorescenL
(ClLs)
LlghL
LmlLLlng ulodes
(LLus)
!""#$%$& 13-23 Lm/W 80-103 Lm/W 40-70 Lm/W 60-140 Lm/W
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2/0.3
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98-100
C8l:
60-70
C8l:
60-90
C8l:
70-93
4#".56%/ Llfespan:
3,000 hours
Llfespan:
10,000 hours
Llfespan:
13,000 hours
Llfespan:
40,000 hours
WaLLage Comparlsons
40 - 60 3-13 12-13 3-8
60 - 73 13-23 13-18 7-10
73 - 100 20-33 18-23 10-13
100-130 23-40 23-33 13-20
130-200 33-43 30-43 20-23
200-230 40-33 43-60 23-30


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I fitted six led lamps in my bathroom and used a dimmer. The lamps flicker on
dimming why? I removed the led lamps and tested the combination in a rig which
I made and they work perfectly they dim and are stable.... But not in the ceiling
... Any ideas .. Many thanks

Unfortunately the advice given in wholesalers isn't always accurate. I put a
trailing edge dimmer in, as advised, and it doesn't dim until the last bit of the
knob and even then only marginally.
Plus you get the disco effect occasionally.

The above aie quotes taken fiom the Whiilpool foium message boaiu.
So it happens. Noie often than you think. In fact theie is about 1S pages on this
foium of people iesponuing with the same oi similai pioblems.

The fact is, theie aie haiuly any uownlights on the maiket that aie completely
compatible with univeisal, tiailing euge ANB Clipsal C-Bus uimming systems.

The ieason you get flickeiing, oi the uownlight not uimming completely is
complicateu.
To boot, using non-uimmable LEBs on a uimming system will likely buin out the
uimming ciicuit.
Typically the moie complicateu the uimming system (like C-Bus) the less likely it
is that youi LEBs will woik on it. This is because they aie sensitive to the
electiical loau anu aie looking at the cuiient being uiawn befoie they activate,
but LEBs, being so eneigy efficient, uon't uiaw much powei anu sometimes uon't
activate the uimmei.
Infeiioi LEBs using tiauitional uimmeis aie moie likely to be seen to flickei than
tiauitional halogens as the LEB technology tuins on anu off quickly, wheieas a
glowing filament nevei stops iauiating light. If you want youi uimmei to get
uown as fai as 1u%, some ietaileis will be suggesting to you a new uimming
system.
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As we leain moie anu moie about LEBs, we aie going to chuck ion a few new
tiicks anu tiaps heie anu theie.one we have just uiscoveieu that we CANN0T
let you buy LEBs without knowing this fiist, is.,.
A veiy thin layei of phosphoi.
Sounus haimless enough, anu it is, until it staits to weai thin! The fantiastic
biightness you hau with the lamps to begin with, has staiteu to faue ovei time,
anu not only this, it will shift the coloui output fiom youi waim white, to a blu-
ish ienuition.
Why uoesthe manufactuiei uo this. Simply to inciease the biightness, oi lumen
output p|ei watt.
What can you uo. Ask "Who supplies the packaging" oi the coating of the LEB
chips. Piefeiably go with the moie ieliable Koiean, Taiwanese, }apanese oi 0S
companies.




Bopefully you aie awake!
Bopefully you founu this iepoit helpful.
Bopefully you unueistanu that I have not even sciatcheu the suiface of all the
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