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Dea r MRR:
"Does Punk Suck???" offered some of
the best rea ding yet on the future of
punk. It wa s grea t to see people in the
business show a little ba ll-busting
honesty, but even a fter a ll those words,
two big questions a re still not a nswered:
Is it better to stick with stuff tha t you
know will be good (or a t lea st consistent),
or should you spend your time a nd money
wa ding through a shitpond of ba nds tha t
obviously ca n't pla y yet for the sa ke of
finding a few good new ones tha t will
inject some hea lthy new blood into the
scene? It would be nice to do both, yes.
Ca n a nyone loa n me $1 0, 000 to get sta rted?
Secondly, should punk continue to sta y in
its own little world, or should punk a llow
itself to become influenced more by other
forms of music a nd other lifestyles?
I don't know if there's a n a nswer for
the first question. But I've ha d some
experiences rela ted to the second one tha t
ha ve me wondering a bout punk's "closed
society" . The most recent of these
ha ppened in Sa n Fra ncisco, where I wa s
checking out punk propa ga nda a nd
shooting the shit with some people in a
shop one da y . Although I felt a little out
of pla ce a s a n Afro surrounded by
moha wks a nd burrhea ds, I struck up a
conversa tion a nd we got a long grea t. Then
I mentioned tha t I might ha ve a little time
while I wa s in town to, you know, ta ke a
look in some of the clubs on Broa dwa y.
After the la ughter died down, they
suddenly rea lized I wa s serious a nd
quickly tried to discoura ge me. "You
better get a ha ircut first," one sa id, "or
you might ha ve problems ."
Huh? Is this wha t the whole scene is
reduced to? Sure, I could ha ve gone, a nd
proba bly nothing would ha ve ha ppened to
me. But I ha d never hea rd of the ba nds
tha t were pla ying in SF tha t week -- do I
ha ve to risk getting a rrested or getting
my fa ce kicked in just so I ca n see a show
tha t I might not like in the first pla ce? I
don't mind if ha rdcores look a t me a s a
bourgeois punk diletta nte, a s long a s they
get out of the wa y a nd let me BUY the
ta pes a nd BUY the zines instea d of
ha nging

a round

wa iting

to

shoplift
a nything I ca n get my ha nds on.
Everybody wa nts to sma sh the system, but
when it comes to trying to figure out a
system to repla ce it, everyone's bra in
turns into oa tmea l . Punks a re quick to
forget tha t their whole scene is just a cog
in tha t fa t, deca dent, Free Enterprise
ma chine -- even those run-of-the-mill
three-piece ga ra ge ba nds a nd "recording
compa nies" tha t opera te with a four-tra ck
recorder in some fifth-floor a pa rtment on
Sixth Street. Those ba nds a nd producers
a nd ma ga zines ha ve to sell enough cra p to
a t lea st brea k even a nd keep this big
wheel lubrica ted, or the "scene" dies.
As for tha t minority of shithea ds who
fuck things up for everybody, they ca n
ta ke their cha ins, boots a nd broken beer
bottles a nd ja m them stra ight up their
a sses . I'm never gonna ta ke a swing a t
a nyone if I don't ha ve to . Is there
something wrong with me? I ha ve a job a nd
I ha ven't shoplifted since I wa s 1 7. Is
there something wrong with me? I ha ve
long frizzy ha ir, a nd my friends ca ll me a
relic of the '60s . Is tha t a ll the motiva tion
someone needs to kick my a ss? For a nyone
who a nswers yes, my response is FUCK
YOU.
Despite

a ll

this

bullshit,

I'm

still
proud of the fa ct tha t BLACK FLAG,
D .O.A., FEAR a nd other punk ta pes a re
in my collection (yes, even FLIPPER) . And
I ha ve ma de some friends in punkdom who
don't look a t me like I've got some kinda
disea se . Plus I'm a lwa ys rea ssured by a n
old sa ying
: Wha t goes a round comes
a round
. How ma ny "movements" ha ve we
ha d in rock now? I think I stopped
counting a t 50
. . .boogie-woogie,
pre-BEATLES da nce music, voca l groups,
BEATLES, guita r heroes, psychedelia
(twice), techno-pop (
.rice), hea vy meta l,
disco, frea ked-out disco (a la DURAN
DURAN), a va nt-ga rde (twice or three
times, depending on who you ta lk to),
R&B, soul
. ..a nd now we ha ve ba nds tha t
incorpora te some or nea rly a ll of the
a bove, plus a myria d of "new wa ve"
groups . Some of those fla gs a re still
flying, but a lot of them a re just ta ttered
rema ins flopping a round in the breeze.
They a ll will be eventua lly
. Why should
punks look a t themselves a ny differently?
Punk is a sta te of mind, a s a lot of people
a re fond of sa ying, but the a ttitude ha d to
be there in the first pla ce -- it doesn't
come from the music
. Come on, people.
Enjoy a nd improve the present, but keep
one eye on the future a nd the other on
the pa st
. There ha s to be something
beyond the "scene" -- or everything it
sta nds for is a piece of shit.
V. Verdi
Dea r MRR:
First - ma ny tha nks to your ma ga zine
for being consistently interesting,
informa tive, a nd sincere . It's so wonderful
to rea d so ma ny opinions a nd idea s a nd
find out tha t other people feel a s a ngry
a nd frustra ted a s I often do by this
senseless world of ours.
I found the comments on punk's
"sta gna tion" on the whole to be true.
However, I ha ve to disa gree with one
"solution" put forth by Ron of Iron Gua rd
zine a nd some of the record a ds . Although
tota l withdra wa l from the system is grea t
in theory, in pra ctice we only hurt
ourselves. By refusing to vote a nd
dropping out of school, we do not destroy
the system ; we render ourselves even more
defenseless a nd helpless, thus a llowing it
to destroy us completely.
We ha ve so little sa y in this supposed
democra cy of ours a s it is; if we don't
vote, we just end up with even less.
Gra nted tha t our choices (especia lly for
present) often don't seem like choices a t
a ll, with the decision rea lly being whom do
you ha te less - still, I'll sleep better
ha ving ca st my vote a ga inst a ma n who's
just been endorsed by the KKK (yes, it's
true!) a nd wa nts to tell me wha t to do
with my own body . If we don't vote, no
one will miss us - no one will notice our
"tota l protest" ; but we will be helping
Rea ga n.
To drop out of school, or to rema in
in cla ss not trying a t a ll, is only to hurt
ourselves . First of a ll, this a ction
reinforces the ima ge society ha s put on
us, tha t of a bunch of dumb, stoned
rejects . It's ea sy for people to dismiss us
if they ca n prove us stupid or
uneduca ted, but when we ca n ba ck
ourselves up with fa cts a nd rea soning, we
put their ba cks to the wa ll. We confuse
them by showing intelligence; we ruin
their terms by ma nipula ting them . It's
tempting to sever a ll ties with society, but
try tha t a nd you just screw yourself up.
You ca n't get a job, you ha ve no money,
no food, a nd no pla ce to live. Society
continues while you don't
; you're
conveniently out of the wa y, a nd no one
will remember why you did it; they'll just
think "punk equa ls loser".
We ca n't rea listica lly expect huge
cha nges, but let's not ma ke things worse
for ourselves tha n they a lrea dy a re. We
ca n keep thinking a nd ma ke our voices
hea rd, or we ca n fulfill society's prediction
a nd hopes by destroying ourselves.
Cla udia Bukszpa n/1 0 W.
86 St./NYC 1 0024
Dea r MRR:
On the one ha nd I a gree with much of
wha t wa s sa id a bout the generic na ture of
more a nd more of the "punk" music a nd
ba nds opera ting toda y
. Both in terms of
musica l structure a nd lyrica l content, a lot
of ba nds a re becoming redunda nt, just
essentia lly copying wha t ha s been done
before. Ma ny people seem to ha ve a n idea
of wha t "ha rdcore
" is supposed to be a nd
a re just trying to live up to tha t idea with
no sense of progression
. Therein lies the
da nger of la bels
. People a im for the sa me
sound a nd the sa me messa ge without
thinking a bout wha t they're doing or why.
They just know tha t "ha rdcore" is cool, so
they try to imita te wha t they think is cool.
When this becomes the ca se, there is less
a nd less difference between punk or
ha rdcore a nd a ny other formula rized kind
of music, be it Lionel Ritchie-style AOR,
DURAN DURAN-style "new wa ve",
wha tever . Culture must move forwa rd a nd
progress or sta gna te a nd die.
On the other ha nd, you guys living
in S.F . or L.A. or D.C
. or a ny other
town with a big punk scene I don't think
ca n ima gine wha t a rea lly libera ting,
refreshing thing it ca n be to be a ble to
see a punk show of a ny sort in a pla ce
like South Ca rolina , where it's still
unhea rd of a nd where it's still a ma zing to
find a nyone who is not a mindless AOR
zombie
. So, even ba nds who a re not too
good in terms of their musica l development
I think should be encoura ged to go a hea d
a nd pla y a nd ma ybe lea rn from experience.
So, wha t course should we ta ke for
the future? I still think tha t a nyone who
wa nts to sta rt a ba nd or put on a show or
sta rt a fa nzine or wha tever should be
encoura ged to go a hea d a nd do it. But, I
think

tha t origina lity

a nd intelligence
should be encoura ged more. The
bounda ries of wha t is a ccepta ble to a
"ha rdcore" crowd should be expa nded a nd
sources of influence should be widened.
You guys a t MRR ca n pla y a big pa rt in
encoura ging a nd giving exposure to ba nds
who rea lly think a bout their music a nd
lyrics a nd pla y wha t they feel a nd don't
just do "some more ha rdcore songs ." Punk
wa s la unched a s a gra ssroots musica l
revolution a ga inst the stifling cultura l
a tmosphere fostered by The Powers Tha t
Be. Ma ybe it's time to a dopt a punk
a ttitude towa rds punk . We ca n
't be sla ves
to the pa st if we expect to ma ke it into
the future, no ma tter how grea t or how
much fun the pa st ma y ha ve been
. We
ha ve to ma ke the future better, if it's
gonna be better, or if it's gonna be a t a ll.
Chelsea Snelgrove/DEATH ROW - Columbia ,
South Ca rolina
P.S.
: I don't think tha t progress ca n come
through "elitism"
. There a re a lwa ys a few
people who steer the course into the
future beca use they ca n a nticipa te a nd
crea te something new in music. But if they
become a n elite, cut off from or different
from their a udience in a ny essentia l wa y,
then it seems to me tha t the music crea ted
by such people would ha ve to be
mea ningless bullshit.
Dea r MRR:
I understood your a rticle, "Does Punk
Suck?" Well, ha ve you ever thought tha t
the origina tors of punk/ha rdcore a re
getting old a nd tha t the scene is still
getting regenera ted? From my a ngle, punk
is not dea d nor will it ever die, beca use
new a ngry kids will come from ea ch
genera tion a nd the old ones will move on.
Ma ybe one da y you a t MRR will wa ke up
some morning a nd wonder why you work
for a punk fa nzine a nd you'll quit
publishing . In your mind Punk will be
dea d
. But in rea lity, it will be a newborn
ba by
. Some other fa nzine will ta ke over
a nd become wha t your ma ga zine will ha ve
once been, a nd punk will cha nge over the
genera tions to come
. The new people will
gra dua lly lose touch with wha t you, the
forefa thers, did
. I mea n, I a m a new fa ce
in the ha rdcore scene
. I've only been into
it strongly for 4 months a nd I'm getting
into it by ma king a fa nzine, setting up
shows, a nd I think this represents the
future of punk
. New people will come a long
a nd some, like me, will ta ke cha rge a nd
others will ride a long a nd ha ve fun . Just
something to think a bout
. Tha nx,
Joe Miller/1 25 Hollywood Ave
./Elkha rt,ln
4651 4
Dea r MRR,
I thought the most pertinent
commenta ry ca me from John Kezdy of THE
EFFIGIES a nd Meta l Mike Sa unders of the
SAMOANS . First, qua lity must come before
velocity
. Nothing is ga ined from shows
tha t end up being a speed contest (a s
illustra ted by Mike Wa lsby in MRR #1 1 ). I
only ha ve a very limited a mount of ca sh to
spend on records a nd shows, let a lone
leisure time. This is even more complica ted
by the fa ct tha t there is so much to
choose from. I'm not going to
indiscrimina tely buy up records or go to
shows in the na me of supporting the
efforts of ha rdcore. Tha t's not to sa y tha t
I a m a ga inst ha rdcore . I'm not. I a m just
tired of wha t wa s oft ca lled "Generic
Thra sh" in MRR #1 3. If I'm going to ma ke
the investment of records or a ttending
shows, I wa nt ba nds to exhibit skill,
origina lity, honesty, common sense, a nd
energy . Is this too much to a sk? Is it too
much to a sk for a ba nd to show up on time
a nd pla y without being completely
pla stered? Almost a nyone ca n fly the fla g
of "Ha rdcore"--open-minded, a nti-ra cist ,
a nti-fa scist, positive thinking . Wha t I ha ve
just listed is not the iron-cla d definition
for "ha rdcore"
. This will differ from
person to person . In most ca ses, this
open-mindedness is sincere . But how ma ny
times ca n one ta ke someone dumping on
Rea ga n a nd Nuclea r Wa r to the tune of
three chords
. Rea ga n obviously ha s to go,
a nd is worthy of criticism. But, it ha s
become more trendy tha n a nything else to
ma lign Rea ga n
. Any president throughout
history gets ma ligned
. Put some va riety
into wha t you're sa ying . I ma y a gree
entirely with wha t a ba nd is sa ying, but if
their music sucks, why should I buy their
records? To me tha t would be hypocritica l,
since I buy records for enjoyment. I might
a s well write the ba nd a check for seven
bucks ra ther tha n buy their a lbum . I see
no rea son why people ca n't dema nd to hea r
good music a nd crea tive lyrics. This is
why ba nds should not be content merely to
echo the sentiments of wha t the "in" ba nd
sa id on their a lbum. Think for yourself.
Where ha ve I hea rd tha t before? Meta l Mike
wa s right. We do know wha t the next
ha rdcore a lbum is going to sound like.
With more va riety a nd thought a bout
pla ying a bility a nd lyrica l subject ma tter,
perha ps this ma la dy could be cha nged.
Listen to other forms of music . I pity the
person who listens strictly to "Ha rdcore".
They're missing so much . Ja zz or cla ssica l
ma y not be politica lly a wa re but their
crea tivity is just a s much of a n esca pe
from MTV shit, a s ha rdcore
. Ja zz/cla ssica l
chose not to dea l with politics, a nd tha t's
their priority . This does not subta ct from
their va lue
. It merely ha s a different
form, one tha t is no less cha llenging tha n
"
Ha rdcore" . The MINUTEMEN a nd HUSKER
DU a re good a t trying something off the
bea ten tra ck . One ca n only conjure up a
va gue idea of wha t their next a lbum will
sound like.
John Kezdy fa iled to point out tha t
LOVERBOY a lso ha s a la rger a udience
beca use they fa il to cha lla nge their
listeners, menta lly or otherwise. But the
fa ct Kezdy did bring up is tha t ba nds
should know how to pla y their
instruments . If I ca n't enjoy wha t I'm
listening to, I'm not going to pa y a ttention
to it. As Pa ul Weller once sa id, "Fire a nd
Skill."

JOURNEY

sounds decent,

but
they're so boring tha t a ny musica l ta lent is
ca ncelled out

by drippy,

redunda nt,
monotonous lyrics.
Va riety a nd qua lity a re the two
solutions I see to Generic Thra sh.
Problems with scenes such a s ego trips a re
a nother story . With a la rge group of
people following one idea tha t is ha rd to
define in the first pla ce, someone is a lwa ys
going to ta ke the ba ll a nd run in the
wrong direction . Look a t our President.
Hopefully, more people with common sense
- don't a sk me how to define tha t - a nd
compa ssion will ha ve to work ha rder for
the mista kes of a ssholes who tra sh ha lls,
fight, a buse people, a nd pull other
juvenile shit
. Some grea ter degree of unity
ca n hopefully come from these efforts . It
a ll involves give a nd ta ke. Perha ps a lot
of it
. It's a long up-hill ba ttle in our
efforts to cha nge wha t a ils the ea rth
. Keep
plugging
. The lea st you ca n 'sa y is tha t
you tried. Be educa ted
. Your a vera ge
yo-yo ca n criticize Rea ga n, but in deta il?
An informed opinion ca n be persua sive,
a nd it gives a good impression
. Libra ries
a re free a nd conta in a ll kinds of dirt to be
dug a bout our government
. Send ha te
ma il, or a ny type of response to the
a ddress below. Tha nk you
. With hopes of
sending Ronnie home,
Jim Kilborn ;1 45 Gibbs St./Newton Center,
MA/021 59
Dea r MRR:
Four yea rs a go, a s a sophomore in
high school, I hea rd my first punk rock.
When I hea rd the SEX PISTOLS, their
energy, open weirdness a nd a bility to a ct
a ny wa y they wa nted to wa s wha t ma de
them da ngerous. Nowa da ys though,
ha rdcore ha s a cliched weirdness . In other
words, it's rea ched a regimented norm tha t
old punk did not possess
. . .punk rock
could include elements of new wa ve, noise,
dea th rock a nd a blend of a lmost a ny style
of music when coupled with a ra w
rock'n'roll a esthetic . But ha rd core punk
ha s less possible va ria tions: thra sh,
meta lish a nd Oi . Groups tha t do try to
utilize a musica l hybrid beyond a vera ge
ha rdcore a re usua lly not considered a
"ha rd-core" ba nd a nymore . So ha rdcore
music is not progressing - it's regressing
into a nea ndertha l sta ge tha t is pretty fa r
below the origina l punk rock "ha ppening".
Yep, punk wa s origina lly a "ha ppening"
a nd now it' s degenera ted into a "scene
" .
Furthermore, the " scene" is very often
just a n excuse for petty va nda lism a nd
picking up women
. These scenes a re a bout
a s threa tening to the "rea l" world a s a
Hell's Angels' Ta vern, a nd so the "rea l"
world will go to the ta vern a round the
corner . The sa me is true with the
ha rdcore club - the norma l people will go
to the club a round the corner instea d of
fa cing

la me,

boring,

rea ctiona ry-jock

punks.
Ha rdcore is locking itself a wa y into a
little clique tha t excludes others who don't
fit in . By rejecting new people a nd styles,
ha rdcore is rejecting progression.
If it wa sn't for the fun ba nds like
ANGRY

SAMOANS,

DEAD MILKMEN,
SACRED

ORDER, . ..a nd

the

not-so
ha rdcore ba nds

like THE FEEDERZ,

OFFBEATS, REPLACEMENTS . . .for me,
Punk would be six feet under like most
ha rdcore deserves to be. Something new
a nd da ngerous will rea r its hea d in 5 or 1 0
yea rs ; the possibilities a re endless. But
let's not just sit a round wa iting for
something new to join . Why not ta ke
individua lity to new, persona l extremes
instea d?
Mike Z (of Huma n French Fries zine)
Dea r MRR:
Here's some comments a bout your la st
issue on the sta te of 'punk'
. I a gree with
Tim - we've wa nted to ma ke it ea sy for
people to be hea rd for a long time a nd now
tha t it's possible, everyone seems to
compla in a bout the mediocrity
. Tha t is the
price you pa y for democra cy
. Who ca res
a bout a relea se not being the grea test
. It's
grea t just ha ving the choice
. Do we wa nt
to become elitist a nd censor things just
'ca use we think it'
s not up to snuff or
sa ys things we don't a gree with? Also, to
a ll the people who sa y punk is
" out", you
a ppa rently ha ve lea rned very little from it,
since the whole concept of being "in" or
"
out" belies a fa d-oriented a ttitude
. I
don't do things worrying a bout whether
it's "in" or "out"
. Also, I think a lot of
people ha ve just become ja ded, ha ving
listened to nothing but punk a lbums for
the la st four yea rs.
Jeff Ea ring/INSANITY DEFENSE
Dea r MRR:
It's time for my 2t (a fter re-rea ding
the whole "sta te of HC" sprea d).
Three da ys a go, I ha d the immense
displea sure of ha nging out with exa ctly the
"fa g-ba shing, swa stika -scra wling cretins"
Steve Wishnia wrote a bout. I ha d two
rea sons for ending up with them . First,
I'm ha lf-pissed the stupid fuckers cla imed
(like property) a potentia l girlfriend
(punks ha ve feelings too!). Second, it
ma kes no sense to ha ve a position
(politica lly) a nd a rgue in its fa vor if you
don't know wha t you're a rguing a ga inst,
not a s your opposition sa ys it, but a s they
think it a nd live it. I wa nt to hea r wha t
Ga rry Bushell a nd his stooges sa y before I
hea r wha t MRR a nd CRASS sa y a bout wha t
they sa y. I respect the la tter two fa r
more, but I like to do my thinking from
prima ry sources. Afterwa rds, sha ring is
essentia l.
Let me skip a round a bit. I feel
guilty every time the decline of punk is
bla med on the "new people" in the scene . I
ca me in in 1 982. I'm a new person
. I sa y
to myself tha t I've been politica lly a ctive
a ll my life (a s the son of a politica lly
a ctive fa mily). I go to the United Na tions
school in New York - no slouch on
interna tiona lism a nd socia l justice! I ca me
into the scene with this ba ckground
. I
dress pretty much my own wa y -
recogniza bly "punk" but not in "ha rdcore
uniform" . I do a ll the right things, like
listening to wha t the ba nds sa y, a nd
discrimina ting between good a nd ba d ba nds
on the ba sis of their idea s more tha n their
music . I involve myself in extra -punk
a ctivities like demonstra tions, other a rt
forms, etc.. .still us "new kids" ta ke the
ra p .
Three da ys a go, I wa s lucky to find
out why . These fa g-ba shing cretins, who
look rea l "punk" with their moha wks a nd
ha ng
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ha nging suspenders a re newer tha n I a m.
Their lower ea st side squa t a nd "crucia l
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ima ge let them sink into the outer shell of
the NY scene (a s defined by the people
comprising it), a nd they know everyone
a nd everyone knows them, but I never sa w
them a nywhere before Frida y . They a re
da ngerous people with their knives
(especia lly during their a cid trips)
. They
rea d people a s if they were spies
. I a sked
a friend if I should cover the CRASS
emblem on my pocket (5 minutes a fter I
met these guys), a nd she told me it wa s
too la te - they ha d a lrea dy noticed a nd
they a sked her if I wa s a nother
"cra sshole"
. We a ll went to hea r VIRUS (in
every wa y a grea t ba nd) a t a friendly club
tha t seldom books ha rdcore (it's free, so
ba nds don't get pa id), a nd by the end of
the set, two guys from the ba nd going on
a fter VIRUS got the shit bea t out of them.
Members of FALSE PROPHETS were there.
You ca n a sk them for further deta ils.
After the show, I hung a round with a guy
who works a t the club, some of my
friends, a nd some "cra sshole pea ce punks"
a nd we were ta lking a bout these guys.
The situa tion is so' extreme tha t those of
us who knew na mes were a fra id to mention
a ny . It is rea lly sca ry tha t wha t wa s a
ba sica lly fa ctionless scene for a long time
now houses a sma ll group of newcomers
who ha ve successfully ca rried through
their fa scist idea s by terrorizing the rest
of us . As the guy from the club sa id : "If
wha t you're sa ying [a bout violence] is
true, this is fucking bullshit. You should
just grow your ha ir out a nd move on to
something else. This is fucking bullshit."
So wha t the fuck a re we supposed to
do? I don't wa nt to quit out on a n idea I
rea lly ca re a bout. If a ny of them rea d
this, I'm dea d.
Na ga sa ki, NY
Na ga sa ki - You've got to orga nize others
who feel the wa y you do a nd fight ba ck!
Goons like tha t thrive on intimida tion, not
opposition
. J . Ba le
Dea r MRR:
If if's were skiffs, we'd a ll be ta king
a boa t ride
. If punk wa s a cruise.
We're not, of course
. We're sinking in
the bog, clinging to pieces tha t don't
floa t, but trea ding wa ter
. Do ca ts swim? If
a ca t dived off a diving boa rd, would or
would it not la nd feet first?
Enjoyed the lengthy punk eulogy or
wha tever, but would like to a dd a few
thoughts of my own
. Punk is to you wha t
punk is to you
. Not your friend. Not your
mother . Not your DJ . Not Jello
. Not
Wa ttie . Not Ronnie
. Not Ma rx . Not your
pet
. Not even your girlfriend. Punk is
your la st persona l sta tement. Punk is you.
Punk is discovering wha t you're rea lly for
or a ga inst a nd then doing something a bout
it
. Doing something a bout it! Punk is
a lwa ys cha nging beca use you're a lwa ys
cha nging . When you let your other side
get the best of you, then the first pile of
dirt ha s a lrea dy flown from the shovel. If
punk is truly dea d to you, you yourself
ha ve killed it, beca use it will ha ve cea sed
to ha ve persona l mea ning for you.
Steve 53/Blitzkrieg/ Box 91 2 / 291 0 Scioto
/Cincinna ti, OH 45221
R&R:
thought the "Does Punk Suck" issue
'ea t
. I hope it's not too la te to a dd
nion. As long a s I've hea rd the ca ll
for unity on the scene, I've been highly
suspicious of just wha t the hell we're
supposed to unite over . The N.Y .C
. scene
ha s a lwa ys been ba sica lly a ba r scene of
kids out for fun
. By now it's become
obvious to me tha t unity on the scene
mea ns little more tha n a new uniform,
liking exa ctly the sa me music, a nd da ncing
exa ctly a like. It's too ea sy to be a skin
(even to be a punk). Simply put, you a re
wha t you pretend to be.
In our "Ana rchy Primer", Da ve
Insurgent a nd I put the word 'unite' on
every pa ge ; but the idea wa s to unite
towa rd huma nity's common goa ls of
freedom, pea ce a nd equa lity, not a t a ll
unity for the sa ke of uniting. It mea ns
nothing to unite a ga inst the world. Wha t
a re you united for, a nd wha t a re you
united by_. For exa mple, the hippies united
a ga inst the wa r (not wa r, but The Wa r).
When the wa r wa s over, so wa s their whole
thing. In our ca se, if some libera l wins
the next election, I'm a fra id a lot of people
would ha ve nothing to compla in a bout. I'm
tempted to vote for Ron just to keep the
country fucked up (ha -ha ).
The point is wha t wa kes up a
movement is problems, conflict with
outside . Wha t ma kes a nd keeps a movement
a live is goa ls, wha t you wa nt for the
future . As long a s ea ch person ca n rela te
to the goa l, there's no need to consta ntly
rela te to the group (or a ny lea der)
. Fa ce
it: a scene does not a movement ma ke.
Just look a t the two words. Movement
implies motion with direction. Scenes just
ha ng out surrounded by themselves.
Picture a nts sha ring a loa d of food . It's in
a ll their interest to move it, so they do.
Some in slightly different directions, some
try ha rder tha n others, but a s long a s
ea ch knows ba sica lly where they're hea ded
a nd why, they'll get there. Ashining
exa mple of unity

(of purpose)

a nd
disorga nisa tion, a s punk should be.
When idea s for the future sta rt
coming up, ma ybe more people will ta ke
this scene seriously.
Da n

(Ra mpa nt)

c/o

Affront/P.O.Box
69/NYC 1 0009
Dea r MRR,
I'm writing in response to your
enlightening a rticle on the worth of the
ha rdcore/punk movement
. I feel I ca n
present a n honest, unbia sed a ccount of the
pros a nd cons beca use I consider myself
neither succumbed into the sheepish, blind
conformity of the ma instrea m, or stuck into
a cryptic cynicism which so ma ny
"conforming" non-conformist punks fa ll
into
. The potentia l for the punk movement
is boundless, but there a re specific
bounda ry lines which one must keep in
perspective a t a ll times
. For one thing,
violence a nd bent self-righteousness lea d
to nothing but hostility a nd a deeper
isola tion from the rea lities of life
. In
pa rticula r, those who feel it is their duty
to pick on those who don't wea r their
cliched moha wks or spiked jewelry a re
la ugha bly phoney
. I think there a re just
a s ma ny phoney "poseurs
" in the punk
scene a s in a ny other group (a ll style a nd
no substa nce!). Also, hypocrisy is
ra mpa nt a mong ma ny ha rdcores
. They
procla im a nd boa st tha t they a re for
'a na rchy '
a nd true freedom of expression,
but in rea lity they ha ve a s much tolera nce
a s a bug towa rds those of us (myself
included)

who

ca re

to

be

true
individua lists
. Atrue individua l is one who
experiences a ll the worthwhile a spects of
life (a rts, sports, music, etc). I ca n
proudly ca ll myself a mod-jock-punk a nd
feel I ca n perfectly blend these three
without conflict or contra diction.
As for the good a spects, which I feel
outnumber the ba d, I see ha rdcore/punk
cultures a s a vibra nt, via ble a lterna tive to
the ma ny more sexist, pointless, a nd
desensitizing ma instrea m music scenes.
Seeing the MOTLEY CRUES of the world
strut their bogus stuff rea lly ma kes me
wonder where toda y's kids' hea ds a re!
In conclusion, wha t is urgently
needed to keep ha rdcore from going down
the tubes a s just a nother "a ngry youth
movement" is a rea l a wa kening for a ll those
involved
. Punks must lea rn to listen with
compa ssion to those who a re more
"ba la nced" a nd a wa re of both sides of life.
Remember, life is like a smorga sbord : a
little of this , a little of tha t
. Wha t I'm
rea lly trying to sa y is: give life a cha nce,
a nd live it to the fullest!
Willia m

Hooben/

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Ave/

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Springfield MA01 089.
P .S. I'd rea lly like to hea r from those
a thletic punks beca use it's a bla st to
sla m-dunk while pla ying HUSKER DU!
Also, those who like blues should
correspond a s well.
Dea r MRR,
In re "Does Punk Suck"
. . . .No, it
doesn't
. No more tha n da da ism, surrea lism,
situa tionism, ea rly rock'n'roll, hippies, or
a ny other counter- hegemonic cultura l
movement which ha s ha d to contend with
the a bility
of burea ucra tic ca pita lism to
commidify a nd neuter its most vicious
opponents (a nd opposition doesn't
necessa rily ha ve to be self-conscious).
Wha t is importa nt a bout punk is not its
stylistic ima gery (e.g
. the look, the
la ngua ge, the ska teboa rds, the thra shing,
or even the musica l style), but its spirit,
which is a spirit of resista nce to the
sta tus quo . But a s evidenced by the wide
a rra y of perspectives expressed both in
the letters of ea ch issue of MRR, a nd the
editoria ls, the spirit of punk is multi-
dimensiona l a nd contra dictory
. At its best
moments, punk embodies a spirit of critica l
thinking, of coopera tion, of defia nce, of a
brea kdown of hiera rchy, of a ctive
pa rticipa tion a nd crea tion ra ther tha n the
pa ssive consumption of the pa nderings of
the commidified sta rs
. At its worst, punk
is senseless a ggression a nd violence,
insensitive sa rca sm (e
.g . Tesco Vee),
nihilism a nd cultura l demora liza tion .
To
purge the fa tter, we must continua lly
enga ge in the former
. My ba sic point: so
wha t if ha rdcore becomes "generic", or
YOUTH BRIGADE goes on MTV, or Jello
Bia fra becomes a Joe Strummer clone
. Even
if the pa lpa ble style of punk becomes
ideologica lly incorpora ted a nd commidified
so tha t its ima gery loses its subversive
va lue a nd goes on sa le, its spirit will
become embodied in something else. After
a ll, a truly revolutiona ry culture must be
perma nently in flux
. This is why I must
respond to the query of "Does Punk
Suck"--a s long a s there a re mouthpieces
through which we ca n pose such questions
a nd be critica lly reflective a bout our own
position in society, then the positive side
of "punk
" will

rema in vita l
. Andrew
Herma n/ 25 Gera ld Rd/ Brighton MA021 35.
Dea r MRR,
I just thought I'd tell you my thoughts of
the punk scene nowa da ys. It's gotten wa y
distorted . It origina lly stood for being
origina l a nd thinking for yourself. You
wouldn't believe wha t it's like here! All
the punkers here pa ss judgment on the
lesser known punks, like me
. They ca ll me
a poseur
. Wha t's a poseur? Aposeur is
someone who pretends to be something
they're not. I don't fucking pretend to be
a nything! I didn't go out a nd get my ha ir
cut off, I don't wea r BLACK FLAG
t-shirts, a nd I don't go a round sa ying,
"Look a t me, I'm ha rdcore!" The only
thing tha t ma kes me look remotely punk is
my ska teboa rd. Now wha t gives them the
right to sa y, "Oh, gee, wha t a poseur
."
Just beca use of my godda mn ska teboa rd?!!
I a m devoted to punk . I go to a ll the
shows I ca n a nd even get up off my a ss
a nd write a letter to help my scene a
little . Wha t ma kes them different from me?
Signed, Pissed Off, Stockton, CA
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Dea r MRR,
I'm writing to tell you of our recent
disa strous trip to Pa ris. The rea son I'm
doing so is to wa rn other ba nds to be
ca reful when tra velling a cross Europe, a s
the police a nd customs officia ls a re rea lly
corrupt a nd tend to use their position of
power for their own persona l ga in.
The story sta rts when DISORDER,
LUNATIC FRINGE, a nd some friends were
tra velling to Pa ris to pla y a t a punk
festiva l orga nized by the Pa risia n punk
ba nd SHERWOOD, a long with CHAOS UK
(Engla nd), CAFARDS (Fra nce), a nd
ENOLAGAY, PHALLUS, 5 BOSKOPS
(Ha nnover, Germa ny). The first problem
bega n in Dover when we were stopped by
"specia l bra nch" police, who did not give
us a ny rea son why we ha d been stopped.
Our pa ssports were ta ken from us a nd one
of the blue scum went to the telephone.
After wa iting a bout 1 5 minutes we were
getting very a nxious tha t we would miss
the ferryboa t, but our pa ssports were
returned to us, a nd we were told we could
go . Me a nd Steve ha d to fill in some yellow
forms which sa id we were lea ving
Engla nd-- we weren't told why, but
presumed it wa s beca use we were the only
ones with drug offense records . We got on
the ferry a nd met some people from Texa s
who were into ha rdcore. One wa s
celebra ting his birthda y, a nd we got very
drunk on bottles of rum (yo ho ho).
Eventua lly,

we a rrived in Dunkirque,
where the rea l trouble bega n.
Steve wa s with the 3 Texa ns, who a ll
looked pretty "norma l", a nd pa ssed
through customs with no ha ssle a t a ll. He
got on the tra in to Pa ris a nd fell a sleep.
The rest of us were stopped by the
French customs police, a nd our ba gga ge
wa s sea rched . They found some copies of
our "Menta l Disorder" EP a nd LUNATIC
FRINGE's "Who's In Control" EP. After
looking a t the covers a nd rea ding some of
the lyrics, they decided we ha d to pa y
importa tion ta x on a ll the records . We
a rgued with them, a s it is not true--you
a re a llowed to ta ked1 20 worth of goods for
export into Fra nce per person, free of
ta x--a nd there were 1 2 people a nd only
1 50 records. We were told tha t if we didn't
pa y 700 fra ncs, we wouldn't be a llowed to
ta ke them. After some a rguement, they
a greed to a ccept 500 fra ncs a s this wa s a ll
the money we ha d on us.
So Boobs ga ve them the money, a nd
in return wa s given a very officia l looking
recei t
. But then the

ke.t the records

a nd refused to give them ba ck
. One of the
pigs proceded to threa ten Ca rl (LUNATIC
FRINGE drummer) with a big stick
. He
pushed Ca rl towa rds a rubbish bin a nd
sa id tha t if he didn't brea k up the records
a nd put them in the bin, he'd hit him with
the ba ton.
I sa w wha t wa s ha ppening, a nd went
over to try a nd sa ve the records. I
ma na ged to gra b a bout 5 of them when I
wa s pushed a nd threa tened . So me a nd
John (LUNATIC FRINGE guita rist) went
over to the office to dema nd our money
ba ck
. The ba sta rds refused to give us the
records ba ck . I got very a ngry a nd refused
to lea ve until either the records or money
wa s returned
. Now these French pigs ha ve
a very diploma tic wa y of solving
a rguements, a nd they proceded to spra y
tea r ga s into my fa ce
. I wa s then
threa tened with deporta tion, so I kept
quiet a s I didn't wa nt to miss the gig.
By the time this ha ssle wa s over, the
tra in ha d left the sta tion with Stve on it.
He didn't know the a ddress of the gig ; he
just knew it wa s somewhere in Pa ris . So it
took him a bout 30 hours to find the gig,
a nd by the time he got there the la st
ba nd, BOSKOPS, ha d just finished
pla ying . We bla me this entirely on the
French customs police for being such
na rrow-minded, corrupt ba sta rds.
Incidently, DISORDER did pla y 8 songs,
with me on guita r a nd Cha os on ba ss.
I would like to sa y to MRR's rea ders
tha t if you a re in a ba nd, or if you're a
punk or young person who doesn't fit into
the norma l regime, then be ca reful when
tra velling a round Europe. Ma ke sure you
know your rights, a nd who to conta ct if
you run into problems (ie
. the lega lized
crimina ls in uniforms). And, if you a re
ta king records with you for sa le, then
send them to the gig by ma il beforeha nd.
"They don't like the punks
Tha t's wha t the ba sta rds sa y
It's just cos we'
re a threa t to society . . ."
(from "Toda y's World"-DISORDER
Bye for now. Ta f/ 3 Picton St/ St Pa uls/
Bristol! Engla nd.
P .S
. The gig went rea lly well in the end,
a pa rt from some na zi skins who stood a t
the front "seig heiling" a ll night a nd
trying to ruin people's enjoyment. They
fa iled misera bly, a nd we a ll ha d a rea lly
good time with a n a ll-night pa rty
a fterwa rds, lots of ya hooing, a nd lots of
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IS THIS
BOSTON, NOTL.A.?
Dea r MRR,
We've got problems. The punk /HC
scene is sick, a nd ma y be dying . Ma ybe
things a re different in other pla ces, but
a round here (Boston), things a re pretty
la me.
The a ttitude of the kids here is wha t
bugs me the most. The Boston scene
breeds ignora nce. There a re countless
numbers of little cliques : the Ca mbridge
kids ha te the Boston kids, the skinhea ds
ha te the ska ters, the people who a ren't
stra ight-edge ha te those who a re. . . . it's a
mess . Wha tever ha ppened to unity? Wha t a
loa d of dung
. The word "crew" is a ll too
popula r a round here. "Wha t crew a re
you a pa rt of?" Fuck off; I'd ra ther be
skinned a live tha n boa st of being pa rt of a
pa rticula r "crew" or clique. Those little
sub- la bels a re ignora nt--a punk should be
a punk.
Things a re too "Boston
scene-oriented" here a lso . From ta lking to
kids a round Boston, you'd be led to
believe this wa s the only city in the
world . So ma ny people seem to only listen
to Boston ba nds. The Boston ba nds a re
grea t, but come on . . . .there a re others out
there
. Don't be a fucksta in!
And bewa re of the wa y you dress in
Boston too. God forbid a nyone ha ve a
moha wk or wea r spikes, or they'll be
criticized to dea th : "oh look, he's punk
rock ." Why don't you ea t shit. I like
moha wks a nd spikes, so lea ve me a lone a nd
let me look the wa y I wa nt! Isn't tha t how
it's supposed to be? You ca n't even wea r a
lea ther ja cket without getting criticism.
The "cool" ima ge is long ha ir a nd
conformist clothes . I ca n't even wa lk
a round town without getting dirty looks
from a ll the "rea l" punks with long ha ir
who look like everybody fucking else . I'm
not sa ying punks with long ha ir a re
a ssholes, but it's not right for these kids
to think they a re better tha n the kids who
look "punk" . It's fucking stupid! After
a ll, isn't it the wa y you think, not how
you look?
Spea king of thinking, I'm a fra id it's
no longer being done . The stuff I've been
mentioning ha s been symbolic of the deca y
of cerebra l a ctivity in punkdom
. It's a
va nishing a rt. Everyone's a hypocrite.
And the ba nds a ren't helping either.
Ba nds with something to sa y a re things of
the pa st
. Everyone ha tes the DEAD
KENNEDYS (I think I'll pa int a big DK on
my lea ther ja cket, the one with a ll the
spikes). Everything is turning Hea vy Meta l
beca use cuz it's the "cool" thing to do . We
need a big ba nd with something importa nt
to sa y
. Be politica l!
We gotta do something fa st, or punk
is gonna die fa ster tha n you ca n ta ke out
the tra sh . Sha ve your hea d, think, a nd
ha ve fun.
Ra t/ 1 81 Fenley St/ Revere, MA021 51
.
IS THIS N.Y., NOTS.F.?
Dea r MRR:
I'm a 1 7-yea r-old girl who is very
upset a nd ha s a question
. I live in NYC
a nd a m becoming, everyda y, more a nd
more upset with the kids here
. It seems to
me - its especia lly noticea ble in the spring
a nd summer - tha t most of them become
"punks
" (a ) beca use its "cool" a nd wha t
their friends a re doing, or (b) beca use
they a ssocia te the movement with violence,
drugs, a nd drinking . They stop going to
school, ska te-boa rd a round in a dumb
stupor, a nd sta nd a round on the corners
a cting rude a nd a sking for money tha t
they don't need
. Its no different tha n a ny
other unconstructive teena ge cliche
rebellion a nd I find it pretty sickening!
Isn't the whole idea to unite a nd do
something to cha nge this cra ppy, unjust
world somehow? How ca n we, if we're too
stoned or drunk or too concerned with
a cting cool, looking right, a nd judging
others
. So, fina lly, here is my question : I
rea d the newspa per, a ttend a s ma ny
speeches, etc . a s possible (just this
weekend Rock Aga inst Ra cism in Centra l
Pa rk with HEARTATTACK a nd VIRUS),
a nd a m wondering wha t this a ll should lea d
to? I feel I'm in such a dea d- end! At
R .A.R ., one spea ker tha nked everyone for
showing up, but when I looked a round,
most people were too busy socia lizing,
a djusting their "da ring" outfits, a nd just
sitting a round wa iting for the HC ba nds.
My question ma y seem a bit queer a nd
I don't know

if you were a ble to

understa nd it. I'd like to rephra se it
concisely, but ca n't
. All I ca n write to
fina lly end this letter is
: wha t else ca n I
do, a s a concerned person, to cha nge
things, other tha n rea ding, listening, a nd
thinking? Agirl representing the West
Germa n Green Pa rty a t R
.A.R . mentioned
uniting into a politica l pa rty a nd getting
things done through a nd with the
government, since, though I believe in the
theory of a na rchy, I'm a bit pessimistic of
its ever becoming a rea lity.
Tha nks for rea ding this
. I'd love a n
a nswer from someone, a nyone
. Even a
short comment would be very a pprecia ted.
Sincerely, Julia Ra ssma nn/1 1 1 1 Pa rk Ave .,
Apt. 1 2E, /NYC 1 01 28
VAYA CON DIOS?
Dea r Sirs:
I'm sick a nd tired of hea ring a ll this
a nti-religious ga rba ge in punk
. Don't you
know there a re plenty of ta lentless punk
musicia ns (if a h ma y use the term) who
a re a pplying their a bilities in the SERVICE
OF JESUS CHRIST? Yep, tha t's right, you
hea rd right
. And there a re a lot of them.
Now just why would you lea ve news of this
exciting new punk trend out of your world
covera ge of the so-ca lled scene?
To sta rt with, there a re tons of us
here in Shitpea ce,

Arizona ,

who a re
converting ourselves a nd other
non-redneck punks over to God - a nd thus
crea ting a new, strict, a ctive BACK TO
BASICS reform! My orga niza tion is ca lled
SFJ (Skinhea ds For Jesus) a nd we ha ve a
record compa ny ca lled Pea ce of Shit
Records
. We a re currently ma king a
compila tion of punk gospel music ca lled
"Loud Noises For God" , which will consist
of tra cks from loca l Shitpea ce ba nds like
THE DISSIPLES, MFBS (MY FAVORITE
BIBLE STORIES), KFS (KILLTHE
FUCKING SATANISTS) COMMIE PLOT, (a
very informa tive politica l ba nd, if a h sa y
so myself) a nd THE WHITE CHRISTIAN
LEAGUE. The best ba nd of Shitpea ce is my
ba nd, THE PROUD EUNUCHS (herea fter
referred to a s PE), a nd some songs of
ours which will be fea tured on "Loud
Noises For God"
a re a version of the
Lord's Pra yer a nd severa l songs a bout just
wha t a libera l democra tic commie Rea ga n
is .
I do sincerely believe in those good
old da ys when boys were eunuchs a nd
girls were burned a t the sta ke. I'm hoping
tha t me, PE, a nd the other loca l ba nds
here in Shitpea ce ca n sta rt a new redneck
Jesus punk movement tha t will turn
America a round a nd ma ke it just like the
good old da ys . And I know it ca n ha ppen
- if we work. To those unchristia n punks
out there: you better sha pe up or your
gonna burn in hell! In hell there's a book
of your life a nd Sa ta n'll rea d it a nd if
your na me is in it, you 're a dea d ma n.
Persona lly, I wouldn't norma lly write
to a smut ma ga zine like yours, but a h feel
a h do ha ve a va lid messa ge to ma ke, a s
does Shitpea ce a s a town in genera l . And I
just wa nt to sa y to a ll you out there:
Ska te redneck or not a t a ll!!!
O.K. Send comments, fa g or no, to:
Deputy Rednech Schit c/o SFJ / 555 Ea st
Corn Pone / Shitpea ce, AZ
VEGETABLES : A SERIOUS BUSINESS
Dear MRR,
The letter titled "Ha ve you hugged.
your pla nts toda y" in #1 3 wa s not funny to
people like me who ta ke vegeta ria nism
seriously
. Alex, the writer, seems to be
sa tirizing the "a nima l rights" ra tiona le for
vegeta ria nism by espousing rights for
pla nts. Alex a nd others ma y not give two
shits for a nima l lives or rights, but if
they ca re a nything a bout huma n beings,
there's still good rea son to be a
vegeta ria n.
An a cre of la nd pla nted with a higher
protein crop such a s corn or soybea ns
yields 300-500 lbs
. of usua ble protein if
fed directly to huma ns . If the sa me crop is
fed to livestock (a nd these crops a re used
for this purpose), which a re then killed
a nd ea ten by huma ns, only 40-45 lbs
. of
usua ble protein results
. The food wa sted
in this wa y in developed na tions could end
hunger throughout the world if properly
distributed .

In the future, a s world

popula tion increa ses, everyone will
proba bly ha ve to be a vegeta ria n so tha t
there will be enough food for a ll. Think
a bout it, Alex, a nd try lea rning a ll the
fa cts before you decide to be a sma rt a ss.
Sincerely, Pa m Kirk/ W Bloomfield MI
NOMORE MR . NICE GUY
Dea r rea ders of MRR a nd pa trons of
Affirma tion,
Over the pa st 2 yea rs of business,
we a t Affirma tion ha ve dea lt with ma ny
a spects of the "independent" music
industry . It is in the a rea of ma rketing
our products tha t we ha ve run into the
biggest problem
. Direct ma il order sa les
a re no ha ssle, a nd we a re gra teful for a ll
the pa trona ge we ha ve enjoyed from our
fa ithful customers--for if it were not for
them, it is possible tha t we would never
see a ny money from our sa les . WHAT! ?!
you sa y . Well, I'm not trying to bitch, but
the current system of domestic distribution
sucks
. There a re a lot of people out there
ma king records these da ys . So I'm sure
you ca n a ll rela te to wha t I'm a bout to put
down .
First of a ll, if you wa nt to sell your
records to distributors, you're in for a big
shock--beca use they don't buy records (a t
lea st

not

from

sma ll

compa nies

like
Affirma tion). They wa nt the records
fronted to them for 60 da ys . On the other
ha nd, when the records a re sold to the
reta iler, the distributor genera lly collects
C .O
.D. Pretty nea t, huh? After 60 da ys
they a re lia ble for only the 'records sold
(or should I sa y the a mount they sa y
they've sold), a t which time they ma y or
ma y not pa y you--depending on certa in
fa ctors like whether or not they wa nt more
product, or if they a re still in business.
Since we've been in business we've
ma na ged to lose a bout $2000 to distributors
either defa ulting on pa yment or going
ba nkrupt
. To a sma ll compa ny like ours, a
loss like tha t is deva sta ting
. Anyone out
there wondering why a second ZERO BOYS
a lbum ha s not been relea sed?
So wha t's the solution? Wha t I
propose is tha t more record stores dea l
direct with the independents . They could
sa ve themselves, a nd their customers,
some money
. The distributors ma rk-up is
genera lly a round 25% of the reta il price.
All the buyer for the store ha s to do is
stock MRR, Flipside, Op, etc
. . . .keep up
with thn ra test relea ses, a nd get to know
the reviewers. Thenhe/she ca n pla ce their
orders direct. Fa ce it, they order off a
ca ta log sheet a nywa y, or buy wha t
distributors ha ppen to be pushing. The
communica tion system is hooked up--a ll we
ha ve to do is use it.
Not a ll the distributors a re ba d, but
I think it's a ca se of too ma ny fingers in
the pie---a middle ma n tha t could be ea sily
elimina ted with a little effort from the
record buying public, record stores, a nd
indie la bels
. Wha t I a m in the process of
doing is compiling a list of record stores
with whom I a m dea ling directly a lrea dy.
Most a re in the midwest (a problem a rea
for even the biggest distributors). If you
run a n indie la bel, a nd would like to
receive a copy of this list, just send us a
simila r list for your a rea . This wa y we ca n
work together to build wha t will eventua lly
become a na tionwide network of
independents a nd record stores.
I could go on a bout this indefinitely,
but a ctions spea k louder tha n words. As
of August 1 , Affirma tion Records will no
longer sell to a ny domestic distributors.
Indies, unite a ga inst distributors . You
ha ve nothing to lose but your losses.
Tha nks for your time, Pa ul & Julie
Ma hern/ P.O. Box 30253/ Indpls, IN
46220.
P .S . If a nyone out there knows Jorge P.
Boobery of Upsta rt Distribution, I a m
offering a nice big rewa rd on his hea d.
Send it C.O.D.
Dea r Pa ul,
An a dded bit of info. There a re some
responses to the questiona irre tha t Tufty
of the TOXICS (a nd formerly of your ba nd
ZERO BOYS) ra n a few issues a go a bout
distributors. For the most pa rt, people
sa id tha t Rough Tra de ha d the best record
for pa yments to indie la bels, a lthough
their level of helpfulness ha s declined a
bit a s the sta ff ha s become overworked.
Systema tic, now getting more on their feet
fina ncia lly, eventua lly pa y up, but not
a lwa ys on time. Dutch Ea st got mixed
reviews, with most people compla ining
a bout how much ha ssling it took to get
their money (which reminds me, they owe
us for a n a d from 2 issues a go). Importa nt
Distribution genera lly pa y on time, but a re
not very informa tive or helpful. Seidboa rd
is sma ll, but pa y up . By fa r a nd a wa y,
the most compla ints were a bout Upsta rt,
who it seems owe every la bel in the world
a t lea st $400 . When it beca me a ppa rent
tha t Upsta rt wa s going under, I suggested
to Jorge (who ha d cha nged his phone # so
tha t no one could find him) tha t he send
out notices to his debtors, a t lea st
informing them of the situa tion . I ha d been
told tha t he wa s not a rip-off, but got in
over his hea d
. I did get a form letter from
him, a sking me (a nd a ll his debtors) to
pick some of his stock of mercha ndise a s
repa yment. I chose some, but ha ve never
received a ny
. I wonder if a nyone else
owed by Upsta rt ever got this form too,
a nd whether they got the goods they
selected . Let us know.
Also, some stores ha ve written tha t
they too prefer a set-up a s you described
(like Open Books & Records in Mia mi), a nd
I know tha t Dischord Records a lso likes
dea ling directly with stores.
MORE ON ADISTRIBUTORS VIEW NEXTISH
BLACK FLAG BLACK EYE
Hello,
I ha ve been a n a vid rea der of your
zine since its inception, a nd ha ve rea lly
enjoyed a nd a pprecia ted your free a nd
open forum for intelligent, thinking,
ca ring people into rock'n'roll. Politica lly, I
feel your pa per is grea t a nd a gree
wholehea rtedly with your insights on world
a nd persona l politics . HOWEVER, when it
comes to music, I sense a n a rbitra ry,
sometimes na rrow-minded a pproa ch to
reviewing a rtists' musica l works tha t is
disgusting a lmost to the point of fa scism . I
feel tha t your 8 reviewers listen to the
ma ny, ma ny records you must receive just
once or twice, a nd then a rbitra rily
(a ccording to mood or persona l prejudice)
give a thumbs up or down review. You
ha ve ra gged on grea t records a nd then
given

good

reviews

to fa ir-to-midlin'
records tha t don't cha llenge your na rrow
thra sh/HC/punk/pop

punk/

'77

punk
molds.
Recently, the most revolting gla ring
exa mples of your (occa siona l) ina bility to
be cha llenged a nd your

(occa siona l)
musica l na rrow-mindedness a re your
so-ca lled "reviews" of BLACK FLAG's
a bsolute cla ssic My Wa r, a nd PILGRIM
STATE's Effective Spiritua l Wa rfa re--two
wa y cool trend setting records tha t you
a ppa rently only listened to once while
wa shing the dishes or something . Those
reviews bite it ba dly ba by, a nd a re tota lly
wa y fuckin' off the wa ll.
I think the ma jority of your rea ders
would find PILGRIM STATE's LP to be a
refreshing, innova ting, exciting, a nd
tightly well-pla yed "pop/punk" record, a nd
a n interestingly experimenta l record . I
could see ma ybe (in a na rrowly thinking
way) relating just onenumber to
THROBBING GRISTLE (except its got a lot
morereal emotion and guts than anything
T . G. did) . But wherethehell did you get
theFALL comparison? (Imyselflikethe
FALL, but not near as much as Ilike
M.D
.C. or GANG GREEN). There's
a bsolutely no resembla nce on tha t LP to
the FALL.
I've a lrea dy used your suck a ss
review of the grea t My
Wa r for toilet
pa per . It wa s so ha rd for me to fa thom
MRR dismissing a grea t cla ssic tha t wa y.
Tha t record ha s more feeling tha n a lmost
a ny ever produced--side 2 especia lly:
every bea t pregna nt with emotion, notes
slowly building, guita r fuming, Henry
screa ming like a tortured Ja mes
Brown/pa nther
. It's fucking ra dica l a nd
worth burning your ea r ca na ls out for.
You've proba bly turned off a lot of folks
from buying tha t record, a nd it's a
senseless, ignora nt sha me.
You ha ve a grea t privilege a nd power
ha ving a ll those records sent to you free
to review. Plea se don't a buse your power
by a rbitra rily pa nning music tha t
cha llenges a na rrow 1 981 HC /thra sh mold.
Tha nks for letting me criticize
. Still
your friend a nd a lly, Da ve Ba ker! Mormon
Curiosity zine/ 5322 Russell #31 / Hollywood
CA90027.
Dea r Da ve,
Unfortuna tely, most records or ta pes
do get pla yed only a couple of times before
reviewing . This is necessita ted by the
sheer qua ntity of stuff we must cover (I
only wish we got it a ll free--I estima te we
get perha ps 40% free:
1 a lone ha ve a lrea dy
spent $1 200 this yea r on vinyl!)
. But
ma ny records (insta nt fa vorites or
time-tested ba nds like BLACK FLAG) get a
more thorough listening.
As to the limita tions of our ta stes, I
refer you to the lengthy discussion of tha t
in Jeff's column la st issue. From our
perspective, we do cover a s wide a ra nge
a s our va rying interests dicta te, a nd there
a re exa mples cited to disprove the
mislea ding idea tha t only thra sh records
get good reviews .
I ca n only sa y tha t you a nd I ha ve
differing ta stes, a nd tha t a ny review is
subject a nd a rbitra ry
. There is no
universa l criteria . All we ca n do is to
ma ke clea r our individua l prejudices, so
tha t the rea der ca n ta ke tha t into a ccount
in forming his/her own sense of wha t a
record sounds like. There is no "right" or
"wrong" to ta ste
. And, hopefully, tha t's
why you a nd hundreds of others put out
your own

zines
to express your
pa rticula r outlook or bia s .

Tha nks, Tim.

GIMME SHELTER?
Dea r MRR:
This letter is in response to Sa nto
a nd Ma lcolm's letter in MRR #1 4 in which
they needlessly try to destroy our entire
scene . I'll ta ke you on point by point.
First, you sta te tha t there ha s been no
Mia mi/Florida news in MRR for a while.
This is my fa ult, a s I do the scene reports
for Florida
. I ha ve no exclusive right to
this job, a nd a nyone who ha s the time a nd
a mbition, not to mention someone who
a ctua lly knows the scene, is encoura ged to
write on tEeir own or help me out
. Next,
you sa y no one ha s hea rd of a ny ba nds
down here except HATED YOUTH or
ROACH MOTEL
. Where were you when I
mentioned your ba nd, BROKEN TALENT,
in MRR #8 a nd MRR #1 1 a long with a ll
other loca l ba nds? Fina lly, the rema inder
of your letter sla gs
off Flynn's, the only
loca l club tha t books out-of-town, not to
mention out-of-sta te ba nds, a nd in
pa rticula r Richa rd Shelter, who pulls the
whole club together
. Your letter comes
complete with na me-ca lling a nd reputa tion
smea ring
. Yes, the club ha s "hea vy meta l"
nights, beca use a ll the kiddies in spa ndex
pa nts spending mommy's a nd da ddy's
money help keep Flynn's open
. Yes, he
does a nything he ca n to get people into
the club
; tha t's the point, isn't it? To get
new people involved in our scene? I ha ve
worked with Richa rd by turning him on to
ba nds, or people tha t book ba nds
. We now
ha ve a ma jor show a lmost every weekend,
a nd never once ha s word come ba ck to me
of unfa ir trea tment
. Just beca use your
ba nd ha s been ba nned from pla ying the
Ca sba h, you sa y we a re being sta rved . We
a re fa r from being "sta rved", a nd with
your a ttitude, if your ba nd pla yed, I
wouldn't be hungry a nywa y
. You sa y your
ba nd formed in '78 a nd you a re still here
in "full force"
. Where were you (a ga in) in
'78 when the Tight Squeeze club wa s
fea turing ea rly Florida punk ba nds such a s
the CHICLIDS a nd the EAT? I wa s there,
though undera ged a t the time (a nd I know
you a re older tha n me)
. To my knowledge,
your ba nd ha s only pla yed twice, once a t
the U of M, a nd your ill-fa t a
ig a t the
Ca sba h
. If this is full force, I'd ha te to
see a trickle
. You end by sa ying tha t a ll
your info will "help" the Mia mi scene
. Who
a re you kidding? This kind of imma ture
la shing out will do nothing but hurt the
other 200-300
kids who a ctua lly do ca re if
we ha ve a club
. You sa y ba nds coming
down here should bypa ss this club a nd
conta ct you! Where a re you gonna book
them? In your ba ckya rd? If you ha ve a
via ble a lterna tive to booking shows a t
Flynn's, plea se let me in on the secret!
Next time you decide to sha rpen your
pencil, plea se ha ve the courtesy to think
a bout the consequences of your words.
Sincerely,
Denise/9801

SW

87

St
. /Mia mi,

FL
331 73/305-274-9049
Dea r MRR,
This is a n upda te on the letter tha t I
wrote la st issue
. The group I'm in,
BROKEN TALENT, ha s resolved its
differences with Richa rd Shelter of Flynn's
(club). We discussed his ta ctics a nd how
he ha ndled ba nds, a nd rea ched a mutua l
understa nding . BROKEN TALENTdid not
sell out! We just decided not to tea r a pa rt
the grea t scene we ha ve down here in
South Florida due to stupidity
. Between
the time we wrote the la st letter a nd when
it got printed, the a forementioned took
pla ce
. We hope those comments a bout
Flynn's won't set the sa me problems in
motion a ll over a ga in .

Sa nto, Hia lea h, FL.

OHIO S.O.S.
Dea r MRR,
This is a ca ll to a ction for a ll punks
in Northea stern Ohio. I ha ve just hea rd
the Pop Shop in Clevela nd will soon no
longer ha ve punk ba nds beca use it is
under new ma na gement
. Soon, I feel, this
pa rt of Ohio will be pa rticula rly devoid of
intelligent music. Ma ny people who sa y
they support this kind of music a re
a ctua lly not willing to sta nd up for wha t
they believe.
I go to high school, a nd when the
"hea d punk" gra dua ted, a ll the other
so-ca lled "rea l punks" suddenly sta rted to
dress "norma l" a ga in . Fuck you guys! I'll
never trust a nything you sa y a bout "being
punk" . Fucking followers they a re.
NE Ohio is in a despera te situa tion!
The true punks need help! We a re very
few a nd very fa ithful, but we a re confused
a nd ha ve no direction . I would like other
punks in this a rea to conta ct me. I don't
even ca re if you think I'm cra zy, 'ca use
nega tive response is better tha n no
response.
W
.R,/ 35541 Nora in Rd/ N Ridgeville OH
44039.
GERMANY RECONSIDERED
Dea r MRR:
The rea son I ma de a n effort to write
this letter wa s tha t I couldn't sta nd
rea ding a ll these stupid Germa n reports
a ny longer. If a n America n rea ds these
reports or a ny other stuff a bout Germa ny
in MRR, he must get the impression the
whole Germa n popula tion consists only of
two groups : those who support the system
a nd those who fight it, either with words
or with force. But in rea lity these groups
a re only minorities. Most of the people
here, like a nywhere else, either don't da re
to oppose or they believe they couldn't
cha nge a thing in a ny ca se, which is true
in a wa y,

beca use even millions of

demonstra tors couldn't prevent the
sta tioning of Cruise missiles a nd Pershings
in Europe.
When I rea d the Berlin a rticle by Ada
Freelunch, it confirmed my a ssumption tha t
ma ny America ns ha ve a stra nge kind of
prejudice a ga inst Germa ny . I suppose the
most importa nt rea sons for tha t a re the
"na tiona lsozia listic history" a nd "the Wa ll"
tha t divides Ea st- from West-Germa ny
. But
a s a ma tter of fa ct, those people who will
control the future (to quote from the
sa ying on the 2nd MRR Compila tion LP),
by which I mea n the young genera tion
including the so-ca lled Punks, don't bother
with these things beca use they feel no
rela tion to the events of the pa st, much
less responsibility for them. Another
striking element of Ada 's a rticle wa s the
ma tter with the squa tters a nd their
poverty . In a lot of other Germa n scene
reports I found such sta tements a ga in.
Punks, who a re often equa ted with
squa tters, a re a lwa ys described a s very
poor guys with strong politica l views. But
the fa ct is most people who listen to punk
a nd thra sh in Germa ny a re living a t home
in a "norma l fa mily" a nd go to school like I
do . Of course they ha ve politica l views
too, if tha t mea ns scribbling "Ana rchy &
Pea ce" on toilet doors or shouting "Fuck
Ronny" if it fits. But it's not enough to
be a ga inst Rea ga n or Kohl or a ny other of
these fishhea ds . The only a ppropria te wa y
to express one's rejection of the system is
to give up this wa y of life a nd to live like
the squa tters do. But I'm a fra id there will
a lwa ys be only a few people who a ct like
this, beca use no one wa nts to miss the
comfort of his current lifestyle . Tha t's the
rea son why there a re only a few people
who squa t, a lthough ma ny a rticles give the
impression there a re thousa nds of poor
squa tters in Germa ny . And I'm convinced
tha t it's the sa me in a ll the other countries
with a "punkscene" . The only exception
ma y be the tota lita ria n or lower developed
countries like Bra zil or Argentina , where
"Punk" is used a s a synonym for
resista nce.
I hope no one dra ws now the
conclusion tha t I'm a na tiona list or
a nything simila r beca use it seems tha t I
wa nted to defend the Germa n scene from
criticism . As a ma tter of fa ct, I ha te my
own country a s much a s I ha te the United
Sta tes of America , which mea ns I'm a ga inst
a ny kind of pa triotism or na tiona lism.
Unfortuna tely it seems a s if a lot of
America n "punks" wouldn't think like this.
Instea d, they ha ve this rea lly da ngerous
a ttitude : "Well, it could be better, but
nevertheless I feel lucky to live in a
country where I'm free to express my
opinions without being a fra id of reprisa ls
from the government or the police." Ba nds
like the F.U.s fa vor such a ttitudes a nd
the worst of it is tha t most people don't
rea lize tha t they support na tiona listic idea s
if they support such ba nds by going to
their concerts a nd buying their records.
Ta lking of selling a nd buying
records, I don't a gree with those who
condemn ba nds just beca use they ma ke
high profits. If ba nds volunta rily wa ive
their profits - ok, but otherwise they've
got the right to be pa id for their work, a t
lea st a s long a s they keep to their idea ls
a nd resolutions
. I think a nyone who keeps
his eyes open should ha ve recognized tha t
the rea l "punk idea ls" ha ve been betra yed
a long time a go, which doesn't mea n tha t
people ha ve given up on opposition to the
system completely (the reports in MRR
a bout the punkmovement in a ll pa rts of the
world a re the best proof of resista nce
a ga inst the system). But to ha ve a n effect
on the ma sses, punk ha s to become
popula r to rea ch a s ma ny people a s
possible a nd tha t is simply connected with
ma king money a nd being commercia lized
. I
ca n't see a nything wrong in tha t, but
obviously a lot of people do a nd so the
dispute a bout punk being commercia lized
will proba bly go on a nd on.
Anywa y, I hope tha t a t lea st some of
the rea ders of this letter will reconsider
their a ttitude towa rds Germa ny a nd its
scene a s well a s to their own country a nd
its scene . If a nyone wa nts to comment,
plea se do.
Thoma s

Kla use/Eylertstr .

7/4700 Ha mm
1 /West Germa ny
APATHY ON ICE
Dea r MRR:
Tha nks for the piece in MRR #1 4
a bout punks getting involved in public
demonstra tions
. It coincides with the cover
excellently . I'm gla d tha t more punks a re
becoming more visibly a ctive in ma king
their sta nds more publicly known
. It
serves ma ny purposes,

like dra wing

a ttention to a n issue, ma king the
media /observers/government more a wa re,
educa ting the ma sses, a nd bring a truer
ima ge of punk to society tha n the
stereotypic ima ge of violence. I like the
la st one beca use the very fa ct tha t we a re
there confuses so ma ny of the "norma l"
people tha t it rea lly ma kes them think for
a cha nge.
I

a lso

a pprecia ted

Da ve's

(of
"Domestic

Terrorist?")

empha sis

on
non-violence
. I strongly believe pea ceful
protest is much more influentia l in
a chieving long term goa ls a s it lends more
respect to those who demonstra te in such a
ma nner a nd insults those who use violence
a s a mea ns of repressing them (cops,
kla n, etc .). I'm not sa ying get your hea d
ba shed in for pea ce ; stick up for wha t you
believe in . But don't a dvoca te violence or
be suckered into it by infiltra tors who a re
out to disintegra te a unified movement.
I wa s a lso gla d to see tha t ba nds
themselves, like STATE OF MIND, a re
getting involved . Tha t's grea t, beca use
most ba nd members sha re a common
ideology in the first pla ce a nd
pa rticipa ting with groups of friends brings
more unity a nd mora l support to those
involved
. Recently, a ba nd tha t I'm in,
ANTI-SOCIAL(from La nsing, MI),
pa rticipa ted in a sta te- wide ma rch a nd
ra lly held in Detroit. There, we met with
other people of a ll wa lks of life, of a ll
a ges, a nd from ma ny different
orga niza tions . Bla cks, whites, hispa nics,
young, old, vetera ns,' revolutionists, the
list goes on . The grea test thing a bout it
wa s tha t a ll of these people, from such
diverse ba ckgrounds, sha red common
goa ls . End the wa r a ga inst the poor in
this country a nd a broa d, stop nuclea r
insa nity, a nd deny Rea ga n in 1 984 for his
foolish mista kes in esca la ting world
tensions a nd ignoring huma n needs . Not
only did we meet a nd ta lk with other
people, but they met a nd ta lked with some
punks.
Ma rches a nd ra llies ca n be rea lly
educa ting, especia lly if you listen to the
spea kers a nd rea d the litera ture a nd then
think a bout it a nd ta lk to others a bout it.
I wa s a bit disa ppointed a t the
Detroit ra lly a s only a bout 400 people
showed up
. For a city the size of Detroit
with a ll its problems, a nd so ma ny of them
linked to the a ction of the current
presidentia l a dministra tion, I persona lly
wa s expecting a few thousa nd. However,
the crowd tha t wa s there wa s enough to
dra w ma jor media covera ge .
I know there a re a lot of politica l
ba nds in the Detroit metropolita n a rea a nd
I wa s expecting to see a nd meet some of
them there (oh, how na ive). Groups drove
in from a ll over the sta te for tha t ra lly,
from Ann Arbor, from La nsing, a nd even
further! One of the groups from La nsing,
Students Acting for the Future of the
Ea rth (SAFE), wa s there too
. Like
Domestic Terrorist?, they too ha ve ha d
die-ins. In fa ct, ea ch month they ha ve a
public vigil on the ca mpus of Michiga n
Sta te University where they demonstra te
during the sounding of Civil Defense
sirens (when will it be for rea l).
So, in the future, I hope to see more
punks a nd more ba nds getting a ctively
involved in wha t they're ta lking a bout
. It's
time to ta ke tha t second step, or just
sta nd in pla ce while the world wa lks pa st
you, out of your rea ch where you no
longer ha ve a ny control over
. Don't
become sta gna nt! There will be more
ma rches in Detroit this summer, but you
don't ha ve to wa it for them. Protest in
your own cities too! Housing, equa l rights
for a ll, police bruta lity, a nti-kla n, etc.
ca n a i be fought where you live now.
Ma ybe there is a lot of a pa thy, ma ybe
more people a ren't getting involved, ma ybe
it'
s just the sa me crowd but just more
determined, I don't know . But I do know
tha t we a re dra wing a ttention to the issues
we feel a re importa nt a nd forcing the ma ss
media to notice us (a nd some government
a gencies, too)
. For every person who
a ttends a ma rch, there a re thousa nds of
people tha t tha t person represents
ideologica lly, so just one's presence a t a
ma rch sa ys something
. In solida rity,
Eric Bla re/401 S. Fa irview/La nsing, MI
4891 2

S
.F.
Protesters
Accuse
Police of
Street
'Sweeps
Police sea led off City Ha ll
yesterda y a fter it wa s stormed
by protesters who
cha rged
tha t street people a re being
ha ra ssed in a n effort to clea n
up Sa n Fra ncisco before the
Democra tic convention.
7ror morethan an hour after
the;,eanfrontation, police
guarded
Ciy*llatl's oneopen doorway on
Polk Street, letting in only neatly
dressed men and women who ap-
peared to havebusiness inside.
Two woolen were a rrested dur-
ing the brief but ra ucous ra lly. Po-
lice identified them a s Jennifer
Webster, 1 8, a nd Wa nda
Ha mmond,
20
"The cops wa nt people to know
there a re going to be ma ss a rrests
a nd bea tings" during
the Democra t.
is Na tiona l Convehtlon, sa id Geoff
Merideth, a member of the Aba lone -
Allia nce a nd one of the orga nizers
of yesterda y's da nonstra tlon.
Orga nizers of the ra lly contend-
ed tha t police ha ve begun Indiscrlm-
lria tely a rresting street people in
prepa ra tion for the convention,
which heglns here on July 1 6.
Pollee ha ve repea tedly
denied
ma king such sweeps.
One demonstra tor a t City
Ha ll compa red Dia nne Feinstein to Chica go's la te Ma yor Richa rd Da ley
t

1 st

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gl1 0#
OL U M N S
opinions expressed are thos~
~e
~s

of the columnists
tRC I
I look a round me a nd I find myself
surrounded by ma il projects, dea dlines,
orders, a nd records. It keeps piling up a t
a da ily pa ce, its exciting a nd fun, but
sometimes I run into difficulties which ca n
rea lly slow down the entire process, of
which I ha ve no control over . It ca n be
quite frustra ting when you know you a re
letting someone down
. Thus, here is my
expla na tion to the circumsta nces of which I
a m so behind in getting everyone wha t
they so desire
. I feel this might help
individua ls rea lize why sometimes the
response isn't a s quick a s they'd like . I'm
sure ea ch individua l or group ha s rea sons
for why they get behind--whether from
busyness, tra vel, or sheer la ziness
. Mine
is not from la ziness.
First off, tha nk you to the thousa nds of
people who ha ve written me
. It's a specia l
feeling to be in conta ct with such a grea t
enthusia stic bunch of people! And a lso, my
a poligies to a ll whom I ha ven't replied to
yet. Its not persona l a ga inst you ; I will
do so soon! So wha t gets me into this
so-ca lled trouble tha t ha s me
1 000+
letters behind a nd people wondering where
their specia l edition SEPTIC DEATH 1 2" is.
Well, I'm not ripping you off a t a ll, a nd I
ha ven't left for Rio with a ll the loot
. So
where does tha t bring me? Everything tha t
I do here, I do on my own, sometimes with
a little help from my friends whose help is
widely a pprecia ted.
Subject A:mercha ndise, a nd where is it?
The cover, poster, lyric sheet, sticker,
etc
. to the 1 2" is complete, but the
colored vinyl is not
. I ha ve been wa iting
now 3 months for it, a nd it's supposed to
be pressed a s I write this, but why the
dela y? The problem wa s tha t most pressing
pla nts tha t do colored vinyl ha ve minimum
orders of 500, a nd I wa nted to do 1 00 ea ch
of va rious ones
. So these circumsta nces
ha d me frustra ted, while the buyee wa s
a lso upset. My a pologies to ea ch a nd every
one of you
. You will see your record soon.
Specia l tha nks to Glenn Da nzig a nd Bria n
Wells for their help in ma king the specia l
editions. Subject B:T-shirts. Ha ve you
seen the prices of t-shirts la tely?
Skyrocketing with the dema nd, just too
much!!! All t-shirts done here a re done
ourselves--purcha sing, screening, curing,
a nd la bor--to ma ke sure it will be chea per.
My problem ha s been to find good shirts a t
a low price, a nd then to cope with
ba ck-ordering
. Plea se rea lize these dela ys
ca n ha ppen, a nd be pa tient!
Subject C:The ma il . Wow! The response is
incredible
. Tha nx so much for your
support! I get some of the ma il completed,
a nd some I don't
. Tha t's why I a lwa ys a sk
for sta mps, for I ca n't a fford the posta ge;
plus the ma king of flyers a nd stickers I
send out in ea ch letter is costly
. Doing
the ma il ca n ta ke out a big chunk of time
from doing a rtwork (which ta kes more
time), especia lly when there a re
dea dlines--- so ma il doesn't a lwa ys get
a nswered a s quick a s I would like
. Plus,
a ssembling the SEPTIC DEATH 1 2" took a
lot more time tha n I ima gined, plus the
ba nd went on tour. The ma il ca n get
ba cked up rea l fa r when you're a wa y
. But
now I'm getting ca ught up, so you should
be getting a reply soon!! I've a lso sta rted
work on a sa mpler LP of world efforts,
people who a re my friends, who ha ve
helped me out, or just music I've
enjoyed---a ll in a ll a wa y to sa y tha nx
. It
should come out in the fa ll.
La stly, my a pologies to a nyone tha t I've
offended or upset in my dela ys . It is not
intentiona l, I'm just on overloa d,
fra ntica lly trying to ca tch up! ! I mention
a ll this so you'll understa nd my position,
a nd possibly those of other ba nds or
individua ls who ha ve dela yed in responding
to you . Your ca rds a nd letters keep it a ll
a live, so never give up! ! Tha nx to you
a ll!
Now, on a completely different note. I get
lots of letters a sking wha t's being done
a bout the EXPLOITED mess. First, I've
been in conta ct with Ma rcus Fea therby of
Pa x Records, who sa ys he will reimburse
me for da ma ges done. Tha t's Ma rcus, not
the EXPLOITED . Ga rry Bushell a nd Sa va ge
Pencil did a write- up in Sounds on the
EXPLOITED's rip-off of Pushea d, a nd it
wa s well-written a nd truthful. The
following week, Wa ttle wrote a rebutta l
which sta ted it wa s not intentiona l, a nd I
should conta ct Ma rcus for pa yment
. Then
why does Wa ttie threa ten Ma rcus a t his
home, a nd tell him no such monies should
be pa id? And why does Wa ttie sell the
rights to the EXPLOITED's LP to
bootleggers without Ma rcus' consent? So
tha t brings us to why did Ma rcus trust
Wa ttie in the first pla ce, since Wa ttie
completely turned a round a nd burned
Ma rcus . Ma rcus Fea therby a nd Pa x
Records is a highly respecta ble opera tion,
not a multi-profit sca m, a nd beca use of
wha t Wa ttie did to them, the la bel ha s
folded . So now the EXPLOITED a re touring
the U.S ., a nd how ma ny people sa id "No
wa y" to the rip-off a rtists?? And how
ma ny people sa id "Yes" to the profit off a ll
the punx! ? You be the judge . Did you see
the ticket prices? Do you know their
contra ctua l a greements? How ma ny of you
a re being fooled? EXPLOITED ha d a show
in S.F. but didn't even pla y, even though
they were there a nd got pa id . They tried
to sta rt a riot with the bra inless punx who
idiotica lly follow them. And on my pa rt,
the sa ddest thing is the EXPLOITED a re
using my a rt for their tour flyers, a nd for
the giga ntic ba nner they're using a s a
ba ckdrop on this tour
. Isn't this a ll fun?
Someda y, those of you who support types
like this will a ll blow up instea d of grow
up beca use you ga ve fools the power they
never should ha ve ha d! Tha nx to Hugo
a nd Bra d for putting their foot down!!
You might fa ll into a rut, but you ca n
a lwa ys pull yourself out
. Don't let it get
deeper by ignora nce . Ma ke a n effort; show
your ha rdwa re!
Pushea d/ 271 3 Kerr/ Boise ID 83705/ USA
MYKELBOARD ANSWERS HIS CRITICS : I
sa t with George Bush in his office a t the
CIAhea dqua rters in Virginia
. "Listen
Myke", he sa ys to me
. "We need your
help
. You did a grea t job with those
commie nuns in El Sa lva dor, but there's
more work to be done
. Na me your price."
"Forget a bout the bucks", sa ys I, wa ving
a wa y his fistful of hundreds
. "I've got
more tha n you
do .
Wha t I need a re fa vors!
You ca n sta rt by getting Immigra tion off
my ba ck
. I got 250 coolies sewing on shirt
buttons for a dolla r a n hour
. I wa nt to
keep it tha t wa y
."
"Done ." sa ys George . "Anything else?"
"I'll let you know" sa ys I
. "In the
mea ntime, you wa nt me to go frogma n in
the Nica ra gua n ha rbors, huh . Pla nt some
little ba bies tha t'll blow those Reds ba ck to
Russia ."
"Tha t's it" sa ys George.
"Oka y", sa ys I, pushing a wa y the six yea r
old kid tha t's giving me a b .j . under the
desk . "I'm on my wa y
. Just let me ca ll
Ja mes, he's got the ca r ."
Ja mes drives a round the side entra nce a nd
gets out of the Rolls to open the door for
me. I kick him in the ba lls. "Ba ck to the
city--fa ster tha n your a ss ca n disco!!", I
sa y to him.
Driving a long the highwa y from D
.C. to
N .Y., we stop to pick up a fema le
hitchhiker . I ra pe her in the ba ck sea t
a nd, when Ja mes ha s the ca r ba ck to 85
mph, throw her out into the street.
Ba ck in N.Y . : As usua l, Ruby is there to
ta ke my coa t, ha t, a nd ma chine gun when
I wa lk in the door of the Da kota , on
Centra l Pa rk West. "God, I'm gla d tha t
creep Lennon isn't ha nging a round here
a nymore, it wa s getting to the
point. . .Well, if it wa sn't for Cha pma n, it
would've been me."
"Ruby just sa ys, "Yes sir", like she
a lwa ys does
. (She better!) I move to the
mirrored ba throom where I a m ba thed by
six na ked, nubile young la dies. After
ha ving clea ned me, they throw themselves
on the floor in front of the tub, thus
a llowing me to use their ba cks to a void the
unplea sa nt coldness of the tile floor . After
I dry my ha nds in the newly sprouted
pubic ha ir of my illegitima te son, I pick up
my copy of Fa scist Times to ca tch up on
the la test news . After checking the cha ins
on the girls locked in the ba sement porno
fa ctory, I shout to Ruby . "Pa ck the scuba
gea r! It's off to Nica ra gua !"
--If you rea d the letters of the pa st few
issues of MRR a nd the reviews of my
records a lmost everywhere, you'll see
tha t's the picture my critics ha ve of me.
So for this column, I've decided to try to
put into perspective wha t my funda menta l
beliefs a re a nd to defend them a ga inst
those who would send my gona ds to the
Cuisina rt.
My politics ba sica lly a re Socia l Liberta ria n.
They a re "Socia l" in the sense tha t I think
the government ha s the duty to insure
tha t everyone ha s the a bility to enjoy their
liberty . Tha t mea ns no one sta rves,
freezes, or is in pa in beca use of la ck of
money . Tha t a lso mea ns there is no
inherent va lue in "working" or "ha ving a
job"--those things tha t Protesta nts a nd
Ma rxists think a re so importa nt
. One
should be a ble to live decently without
working, so tha t there is no need to stea l
or worse to get a job you ha te in order to
pa y for a pla ce to live or food to ea t. It
should be up to the government to insure
tha t this is the ca se.
I a m a "Liberta ria n" in the civil--not the
economic-- sense. (Those who a re
"economic liberta ria ns" seems to be the
ones who ha ve enough money to be
liberta ria n with). This mea ns tha t people
i
ha ve the mora l right--a nd should ha ve the
lega l right--to rea d, write, a nd sa y
wha tever the fuck they wa nt. (these
things a re oppossed by Communists a nd
Protesta nts--a s well a s feminists).
Disa greements should be ha ndled by
a rguments a nd counter a rguments--not by
ba nning wha t you disa gree with
. There
ca n be no censorship in a free society no
ma tter how repugna nt the idea --or
picture-- is to you
. If you don't like it
you ha ve a right to respond, but you
don't ha ve a right to stop it
. The idea
tha t one must be prohibited from "yelling
fire in a crowded thea tre", ha s been used
to excuse every sort of repression.
I a m not a n a nything "-ist"
. I don't
believe in a ny kind of -isms
. These things
tend to become so self-involving tha t
a nyone not your kind of -ist, is the "the
enemy"
. People consta ntly a sk "Which side
a re you

on?"

Women,

homosexua ls,
commies, a na rcho-punks, a re just
collections of individua ls who a re no less
(often more) fucked up tha n the rest of
us
. By defining themselves a s belonging to
this or tha t group, they cut themselves off
from the rest of huma nity
. I believe in
tea ring down wa lls, not building them.
I don't believe a ge mea ns shit once you
develop enough la ngua ge to sa y "yes" a nd
"no" a nd know wha t they mea n . Young
people a re no more susceptible to "fa ds" or
ma nipula tion tha n old people. When a
bunch of kids do something it's ca lled a
"fa d", when a bunch of "a dults" do
something it's ca lled "style" or "fa shion".
They're both the sa me . I don't think kids
need "lea dership" or "protection",
certa inly not a ny more tha n a dults. On the
other ha nd, 1 6 yea r olds ha ve nothing
over old fa rts . I ca n sa y this ha ving been
a 1 6 yea r old a nd now being a n old
fa rt--a nd writing for the old fa rt editor of
this ma ga zine . Age itself doesn't wea r you
out. Someone becomes a wa ste by
overindulgence in drugs, a lcohol, or
politics, or by closing his or her mind--
not by ha ving lived a certa in number of
yea rs
. I know 1 2 yea r olds who a re a s
sta le a s the GRATEFULDEAD, a nd 60 yea r
olds who seem new every da y.
I believe people a re biologica lly pa nsexua l,
a ttra cted to others first beca use of looks,
persona lity, smell--not beca use of gender.
It is not a ny pa rticula r type of sexua l
preference tha t is a perversion, but sexua l
preference itself tha t is perverse. I don't
think sex is ba d unless it's a n obsession.
Any obsession is ba d--including politics
. I
think a nything people wa nt to do with ea ch
other is fine, providing everybody gives
their consent
. I don't think a ge, ta king
pictures of it, selling it, buying it,
tra ding it for lunch money-- a ny of these
things a re wrong or immora l. There is a
movement in America both by the right a nd
the left to ma ke sex somehow ba d a nd
dirty. These people consider it to be like
ciga rettes : a n evil to be ba rely tolera ted
only if pra cticed by a dults fa r a wa y from
everybody else. I recently sa w a news
report on a Ca lifornia school tha t cla imed
to help kids prevent "child molesta tion
" .
They ta ught these 8 or 9 yea r olds to
rea ct to the touch of a n a dult with a sla p
a nd a shout of "NO!" When these kids
grow up they will not be a ble to sta nd the
touch of a nyone without a shudder . Cold
a nd isola ted, they'll ma ke perfect soldiers
in the people's a rmy.
Sex is a lwa ys picked on a s the only huma n
a ct tha t "should involve love, sensitivity,
huma n-to-huma n persona l conta ct"
bla h,
bla h, bla h . Often the people sa ying this
a re a bout a s sensitive a s tombstones . Sex
is a s importa nt a nd a s much a pa rt of life
a s ea ting
. It's nicer to ea t with someone
you like, but a mea l is a mea l.
Afina l point on style--my style . I a m not
subtile
. Why be a gna t when you ca n be
a n elepha nt? I believe in the power of
hyperbole (look it up!), pa rody, a nd
sa tire
. The na rrow "-ists" a nd "-isms" who
ca ll me a "Na zi" ca n't see beyond the
words on the pa ge
. Jona tha n Swift wa s
once a sked if he rea lly thought tha t the
solution to poverty wa s for poor people to
sell their kids to be ea ten by the rich . His,
brillia nt a nswer wa s
: EATMY POOP!
Now I ca n go get my old issues of MRR
a nd rerea d those ha te letters. Some of
them I ha ve a nswered before, so I'll only
pick on those I ha ven't responded to. The
first letter is typica l of most "-osts" . It's
from the Ja n-Feb issue, the notorious 1 984
issue . Leigh Silverma n writes from Fra nce:
"Mykel Boa rd who, a lthough he evidently
va lues freedom of expression, a buses this
right by mentioning a very sensitive
subject. .." This is a pretty wa rped notion
of "rights" . As if rights were somehow like
a penis tha t would whither a nd fa ll off if
too often a bused
. The only wa y to a buse a
right is NOTto exercize it. (I guess in
this respect rights ARE like a penis).
Disa greeing with someone is not a busing
your right to spea k . The rest of Leigh's
letter compla ins a bout my ha tred of
linguistic tota lita ria nism a nd ha ving other
people tell me how I should cha nge the
wa y I spea k . I've a nswered those
criticisms elsewhere.
Two letters la ter come the comments by
Da vid Fleiss, who I la ter met a nd
discussed this with in person . Here's my
a nswer in print: Da vid
writes:"Self-defense a ga inst a ssholes with
ba seba ll ba ts is a lmost useless . Mykel's
Gha ndia n/Christia n idea ('Don't fight 'em,
fuck 'em') is stupid . " Few insults strike
me deeper tha n being ca lled either
"Gha ndia n
" or a "Christia n" . (My mother
would never ma ke me ma tzo-ba ll soup
a ga in! ! )
Here is a n exa mple of the fa ilure to rea d
beyond the words on a pa ge . I don't think
"tha t self- defense a ga inst ba seba ll ba ts is
useless"
. You just need bigger ba seba ll
ba ts a nd/or more people
. I remember a
homo-protection orga niza tion ca lled SMASH
(Society to Ma ke America Sa fe for
Homosexua ls)
. They roa med the streets of
the West Villa ge sending out decoys,
wa iting for the fa g-ba shers to a tta ck, then
coming a t them . It worked! Tha t's the wa y
to do it. When I wrote tha t the cure for
fa g-ba shers wa s to "fuck 'em" , I mea nt
this a s a symbolic fuck, in the sense tha t
the rea son people bea t up homos is
beca use they a re a fra id of the homo
inside. Once you get everyone to a dmit
tha t it's there, the fea r goes a wa y a nd
with it the ha tred. As long a s people
believe there is such a thing a s homos,
a nd tha t homos a re different from
everybody else, the violence will continue.
Next comes a fine piece of ha te ma il from
Stoney Reid, printed in the Ma rch '84
issue
. It is a joy to rea d references to
"the legions of Mykel-types" (Where? Tell
me plea se!!) a nd how "these a rroga nt,
cynica l a ssholes should be distrusted,
ha ted a nd will be violently suppressed
themselves, a nd tha t's just a s necessa ry a s
shutting down the Kla n violently, ca use
tha t's the only wa y you ca n shut them
down
." I rea lly a pprecia te this guy's sense
of humor . Unfortuna tely, he didn't ca ll
himself "a nti-wa r", "non-ma cho
" or a
"freedom fighter" which would've rea lly
iced the ca ke
. Stoney does come up with
a nother cute quote though
: "Defea ting
your
opponents, even violently but without
degra da tion, is the only wa y to keep
yourself from getting sucked into the sa me
sewer."
Grea t! If you disa gree with
people, blow their hea ds off, but ma ke
sure you give them a ciga reete first, don
't
ma ke them kneel, a nd let 'em die with
their boots on
. DEATH WITH DIGNITY.
Wha t a ma n, Stoney!
This brings me to the April-Ma y issue, the
la st one I ca n rea d before this column ha s
to be in. This issue conta ins two
pa rticula rly venomous feminous letters.
The first is from Juliet Belma n who is in
ja il in Va ncouver a ccused of bombing some
building or other . After I rea d her letter I
wrote to her directly . I never received a
reply . To be fa ir, it's possible tha t the
letter never got through . Ma il delivery to
prisoners is even worse tha n it is to those
of us on the outside. My a nswers here
won't be a s complete a s those in tha t
letter, but they a re a ddressed to you, not
to Juliet. Juliet is not quite a s good
wielding a n epithet a s is Stoney, but she
comes close, ca lling me "a contemptuous
sexist, who self-righteously ya ps on, a s
he criticizes 'progressive' politica l
movements, instea d of a ddressing the true
roots of the problems." She responds to
my "twisted view of Newspea k" in my 1 984
a rticle. Concerning pornogra phy she
writes, "We don 't wa nt to censor it, we
wa nt to stop it!" In my book, these a re
the sa me thing, but then a ga in, my
dictiona ry wa sn't written in 1 984 . Juliet
a lso a ppla uds violent ra dica ls who, in
fighting people who join the Kla n should
not be wimps like poor "pea ceful ra dica ls,
who ta ke hold of their a rms to lea d them
off ca mpus, instea d of brea king them!"
Tha t juliet, wha t a ma n!
Ta ngent
: Ma ny leftists seem to think tha t
somehow the government is run by fa scists
a nd wha t you see on the evening news is
Na zi propa ga nda
. I rea d both fa scist a nd
commie pa pers
. They're good for a la ugh.
The fa scist ones a re usua lly funnier
. An
especia lly good right wing one is
Thunderbolt (the White Ma n's Viewpoint).
If you rea d tha t pa per you ca n rea d how
the FBI pimps work for the commies a nd
the ra ce-mixers
. You ca n rea d a dvice on
how not to ta lk to a n FBI ma n a nd who is
infiltra ting the right wing a nd how to stop
it
. They write a bout how the TV news is
controlled by Jewish pinkos who wa nt to
sell out the country . There is even a
grea t a rticle in the la test issue a bout a
super ra cist who is in ja il a fter being
fa lsely convicted (so they cla im) of a
bombing
. Funny, huh? End of ta ngent.
Next Juliet sa ys tha t my Da nish friend
who's hurt fewer people tha n most, but
ta kes pictures of kids in sex pla y in Sri
La nka "should be shot" . She cla ims tha t
pornogra phy incites violence
. I sa y it's
more feminism tha n pornogra phy, but I
guess we'll just ha ve to a sk Juliet. She
seems to be the expert on violence.
Fina lly comes a letter from Liz Pla zo, who
sent with it a ca rtoon of someone cha ined
to a cross. I couldn't exa ctly ma ke out
wha t it wa s, so I ca n't respond to her
question a s to whether I wa s offended . In
a ny ca se, it ta kes a lot more to offend me.
Liz a sks : "How ma ny ra cist porn ma gs a re
there?" My a nswer, "I ha ve yet to see
one"
. As a ma tter of fa ct, I've seen more
ra cia l equa lity, integra tion, a nd sexua l
va ria tion in porn ma gs tha n I ha ve in a ny
issue of The
Revolutiona ry Va ngua rd.
Anti-wa r? During Viet Na m, Hustler sold
thousa nds of copies with the ba nner
hea dline
: "THE MOSTOBSCENE PHOTOS
EVER PUBLISHED"
. Tha t issue presented
pa ge a fter pa ge of pictures of na pa lmed
Vietna mese
; a much stronger sta tement
tha n a nything in The Da ily World, I'd sa y.
It is Liz, not me, who equa tes sexua l
liberty with violence. Her exa mples were:
1 ) An 1 1 month old ba by ra va ged by her
fa ther
. 2) Awa rtime child who, a fter
seeing her rela tives shot, is bea ten a nd
ra ped
. 3) A1 4 yea r old girl ra ped when
she wa s nine
. 4) Agirl forced to ha ve sex
with her stepfa ther
. My exa mples were Sri
La nka kids who enjoyed pla ying with ea ch
other in front of the ca mera . Violence
obviously preys on Liz's mind. I guess she
rea ds lots of pornogra phy.
So to my critics who wa nt to know if I
rea lly think we should ra pe fa g-ba shers;
a nd to those who wa nt to know if I rea lly
support nuclea r wa r to sha ke up the gene
pool (I wrote a song ca lled "We Wa nt
Nuclea r Wa r"); I give you those immorta l
words of Jona tha n Swift
: EATMY POOP.
And for those of you who wa nt to know
which side I'm on . . .you see the problem.
Being Jewish, if I support the Na zis I
won't be a round very long
. If I support
the Va ncouver ja ilbirds my girlfriend gets
shot. So I guess I'm on MY side, putting
sa nd in the va seline of the right a nd the
left a nd a nybody else who sa ys "Do it my
wa y or die" . Me? I'm no ma n.
Despite the recent criticisms being widely
expressed a bout the sta te of punk, a nd
despite the obvious nega tive a spects of
'the scene' (violence in N.Y ., meta l in
Boston, drunks in S.F., ga ngs in L.A.,
na zi skins in Europe, etc), I'd like to
comment on some recent developments tha t
ha ve ma de me feel much more positive
towa rds the future of 'punk'.
First, there seems to be a genera l
movement towa rds communica tion a mong
people who were previously somewha t a t
odds. In our ca se, severa l former critics
of MRR ha ve recently ma de efforts to ta lk
with us. I spea k of other fa nzine editors
like Tesco Vee of Touch & Go, Jimmy
Johnson of Forced Exposure, Ba rry of
Suburba n Rela pse, a nd Al a nd Hud of
Flipside
. In some ca ses, it wa s our mutua l
sickness of record collecting tha t prompted
this; in others, it wa s perha ps curiousity.
But behind those outwa rd rea sons, I think
tha t ma ybe the rea liza tion ha s struck home
tha t the punk scene is very fra gile, a nd
tha t it could degenera te or colla pse a t a ny
moment. So, instea d of a ccentua ting our
differences, I think people a re now a bit
more into empha sizing our points of
commona lity
. I would guess tha t in most
ca ses, there is a 75% a rea of genera l
a greement on things, a nd tha t's quite a
lot. If we ca n keep tha t in mind, a nd try
to respect our differences, then tha t's a
rea l brea kthrough.
This is not to sa y tha t MRR is suddenly
going to wimp out a nd love a nybody who
cla ims they a re a "punk" . There's no wa y
to find a bond with out-a nd-out
rea ctiona ries who resort to violence to
express their fea rs of ga ys, women,
minorities, a nd themselves . But such
people a re rea lly a very sma ll fra ction of
the overa ll scene, a nd shouldn't rea lly
ha ve tha t grea t of a destructive effect if
the rest of the community is fa irly
together a bout itself.
I think the grea test strength of the punk
scene is the fa ct tha t so ma ny people, on
a gra ssroots level, a re writing, ta lking,
a nd a rguing with ea ch other (on a level of
mutua l respect) tha n ever before in a
musica l/countercultura l movement. And it's
only going to get stronger. It's grea t to
see someone like Ia n Ma cKa ye jump in his
ca r (with young Alec) a nd drive a round
the country visiting friends he's met
before during the rush of a tour . (And
it's even grea ter to see how fa me ha s not
distorted his persona lity--don't let tha t
compliment go your hea d, Ia n). Also, this
summer we'll get to meet new ba nds from
a ll over the U.S., a s well a s from Ita ly,
Holla nd, a nd Finla nd
. And more a nd more
North America n ba nds a re winging it to
Europe---a ll outside of government a nd
corpora te control!
I don't wa nt to get too ca rried a wa y here,
a s the serious problems besetting this
scene a nd society a t la rge continue to
grow a nd enda nger us a ll. But I do see
this hope, this desire to "ma ke it work",
a sserting itself a nd ta king on form a nd
strength. It's funny how moods ca n sprea d
like wildfire--pessimism ca n become a
self-fulfilling prophecy .
. ..a nd tempered
optimism ca n too
. ultima tely, it's going to
be wha t we project outwa rdly tha t will
determine our fa te . And a t this point, I'm
sta rting to like wha t I see---fa n the
fla mes!
This issue's column is a bout crying
"wolf", or, more a ccura tely, crying wolf
when one is a ctua lly being mena ced by
ca ncer
. I'm thinking specifica lly of certa in
recent exhibitions of somewha t misdirected
pa ra noia tha t rela te to tha t hoa ry old
meta phor.
One concerns the supposed a rriva l of
"1 984" in the Orwellia n sense. My
pa rticula r views on this subject ca n be
found in a highly condensed form on the
liner notes to our "Welcome to 1 984"
compila tion a lbum, so the following rema rks
should be viewed merely a s a brief
a ddendum to those notes . There a re ma ny
people running a round toda y who cla im
tha t "1 984" is a lrea dy here--indeed, tha t it
ha s been here for some time . In my view,
the

pronouncement

of

this

overly
simplistic, a la rmist notion ha s two
unfortuna te consequences . For one thing,
it convinces those who (quite correctly) do
not perceive the existence of a full-blown
police sta te tha t the spea ker is a hopeless
pa ra noid whose opinions should not be
given serious considera tion, thereby
discrediting a ny va lid insights which such
a person might ha ve . More importa ntly, it
tends to disguise a nd divert a ttention from
the rea l mecha nisms of control in toda y 's
"plura listic" industria l societies
. If a
person's a ttention is focussed too much on
the sort of crude, overt techniques of
repression which only periodica lly ma nifest
themselves

in

modern

bourgeois
" democra cies",

s/he

will

frequently
overlook the fa r more subtle a nd
sophistica ted methods of ma nipula tion which
such systems continuously employ to keep
the citizenry in line, methods which a re
more

consona nt

with

preserving

a
democra tic fa ca de.
Simila r criticisms ca n be levelled a ga inst
those who exa ggera te the threa ts posed by
vociferous right-wing ha te groups on the
fringes of America n society. Aprime
exa mple of this is Les Ga ttesma n's piece on
the Kla n, which wa s published in MRR #1 4
over my objections . Even if the rea der is
unha ppy with tha t a rticle's tendentious
rhetoric,

a na lytica l

oversimplifica tions,
historica l

distortions,

a nd

occa siona l
unsupported a ssertions, s/he might
nonetheless be left with the impression
tha t the Kla n represents the ma jor threa t
to politica l freedom a nd individua l rights in
contempora ry America , which is by no
mea ns correct. Contra ry to Ga ttesma n's
sta tements, the U.S . government does not
need the Kla n to "defend" the system in a
direct sense--it needs vulnera ble, highly
visible groups like the Kla n to distra ct
a ttention from the a ctua l opera tion of the
system, to serve a s wea therva nes for
cha nneling popula r opposition to
funda menta l socia l inequa lity a wa y from its
rea l sources--those a t the a pex of politica l
a nd economic power in our society . By
swa llowing the conspicuous ba it hook, line,
a nd sinker, Ga ttesma n a nd other ra dica ls
unwittingly pla y into the ha nds of the
unelected gra y-fla nnel power brokers who
a re a ctively enga ged in restricting our
politica l options on a da y- to-da y ba sis.
They a re a dding to the problem by helping
the Kla n a nd other ha te groups become the
bogeymen for less virulent ra cists a nd the
whipping

boys

for

"respecta ble"
a uthorita ria ns .

The former ca n thus

a ssua ge their consciences by
self-righteously condemning the violent
a ntics of their more voca l (a nd honest)
brethren, while the la tter a re gra nted
more freedom of a ction beyond the
illumina ting gla re of public scrutiny.
In other words, I believe tha t ra nting
a nd ra ving incessa ntly a bout the da ngers
of overt police sta tes a nd neo-Na zi
ta keovers is ta nta mount to crying wolf,
a nd tha t it ha s the sa me counterproductive
effects . Vicious, intimida ting wolves in the
form of riot police a nd pa ra milita ry
extremists obviously do exist, a nd no one
should ignore or underestima te their very
rea l contributions to our overa ll system of
repression--crea ting a psychologica l clima te
of fea r a mong dissenting or disa dva nta ged
elements in our society, a nd physica lly
a ssa ulting individua ls who sta nd up for
their constitutiona lly-gua ra nteed rights.
But in modern technocra tic "democra cies",
the chief da nger to our liberties lies inside
our own hea rts a nd minds, or ra ther, in
the symbiotic intera ction between our
individua l

psychologica l

needs

for
direction, security, a nd group a ccepta nce
in

toda y's

ra pidly-

cha nging,
disorienta ting world, a nd those tha t ha ve
been cha rged with meeting these
needs--sa la ried "experts" in the service of
elite power networks who pla y a n integra l
role in buttressing the sta tus quo by
ma nipula ting our innermost fea rs a nd
desires for their own benefit. And within
tha t exa lted group, it is the professiona l
opinion-sha pers--propa ga ndists,
disinforma tion

specia lists,

a nd
psychologica l wa rriors--who consciously
a nd skillfully help us delude ourselves
(a nd, less consciously, themselves) a bout
how "free" a nd "ha ppy" we a ll a re tha t
pose the most serious obsta cle to the
a chievement of genuine freedom a nd
ha ppiness in our media -sa tura ted society.
It should never be forgotten tha t overt
repression on a ma ssive sca le--whether
sta te-sponsored or priva tely orga nized a nd
fina nced only becomes thoroughly
necessa ry a nd perma nently institutiona lized
when covert ma nipula tion fa ils to divide,
distra ct, or otherwise immobilize popula r
opposition, something which is fa r from the
ca se here in the U.S . Tha t is why Edwa rd
L. Berna ys, one of America 's pre- eminent
modern propa ga ndists, could boa st a s long
a go a s 1 928 (in his book, Propa ga nda ) tha t
the "conscious a nd intelligent ma nipula tion
of the orga nized ha bits a nd opinions of the
ma sses is a n importa nt element in
democra tic society . Those who ma nipula te
this unseen mecha nism of society constitute
a n invisible government which is the true
ruling power of our country ."
So, while our a ttention is unduly
focussed on the noisy ba ying of ra pa cious
wolves who ma ke periodic direct a tta cks, a
ma ligna nt ca ncer is quietly ea ting a wa y a t
our minds a nd dra ining both our will to
resist a nd our a bility to think critica lly.
Here is the true source of the problem,
beca use in the fina l a na lysis, a few
ignora muses running a round in white robes
a re helpless unless we a llow ourselves to
be seduced by their simplistic emotiona l
a ppea ls a nd intimida ted by their
strong-a rm ta ctics . Oppose groups like the
Kla n, but pa y even closer a ttention to the
subtler a ctivities of those in positions of
rea l power.
Most ma il so fa r on the a rticle ha s been
quite positive. Despite the occa siona l
rhetoric, I think it wa s a n informa tive
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Ja iled couple tra ded punk rock for terror
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By JEBODAM
and TERRY GLAVIN
The a nger of punk rock wa s not enough for
Julie Helm's.
So she la id down her guita r, picked up a
tun a nd sta rted rea ding hooks with titles
ja ck a s How Terrorists Kill.
She pra ctised shooting a t ta rgets with
uma n figures
+rswn on them,
hiked a bout how
it would be
ltrva t a ction" to
plow up milita ry
pla nes a nd "rea l
nea t"
to blow up
the icebrea ker
na med a lter ca n.
or victim Terry
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robbing a n
brmoredca r
gua rd a nd wa s
the voice tha t
wa rned tha t a va n ba d of explosives wa s due
to go ca lf a t the Litton pla nt in Toronto.
In the words of a Crown prosecutor, she
beca me a n urba n guerrilla soldier.
And a judge, sa ying it wa s necessa ry for
him to deter others from pra ctising
'a na rrhy a nd terrorism ." ha s given her a 20-
yea r ja il term.
Belma s
. just 21 yea rs old, is a ppea ling its
length
The boyfriend she took with her from the
k"rid of punk to the world known a s "Direct
Artier' ha s a lso been ja iled
Gerry Ha nna h
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ba ss pla yer a nd writer
of lyrics such a s "-- You" for a ba nd
known a s the Subhuma ns once ba nned
from the Commodore in Va ncouver beca use
of its "obnoxious" fa ns wa s sentenced to
1 0 yea rs by the sa me judge.
During their tria l in B.C . Supreme Court in
New Westminster both ha d cha nged their
plea s to guilty from not guilty on a number of
cha rges.
As well a s the Litton bombing, Belma s
a dmitted conspiring to rob the gua rd in order
to fina nce other a ctivities a s well a s the
a ttempted a rson of a video store, possession
of wea pons a nd explosives, possession of a
stolen truck . a stolen two-wa y ra dio a nd
other equipment a nd thefts of three ca rs.
Ha nna h a dmitted the a ttempted a rson,
robbery conspira cy, the vehicle cha rges a nd
possession of stolen guns a nd the other equip-
ment.
Both got 1 0 yea rs for the robbery conspira -
cy. which the Crown sa id wa s not ca rried out
beca use the two were a rrested just da ys be-
fore it wa s to be committed . with lesser con-
current sentences for the other B C. of
fences
Belma s got a second . consecutive . 1 0-yea r
term for her pa rt in the a tta ck with 250 kilo-
gra ms of dyna mite on the Litton pla nt.
where the guida nce system for the U .S
cruise missile system is ma nufa ctured.
Five employees were injured in the bomb-
ing. a s were three police officers a nd two
pa ssing motorists. Da ma ge wa s estima ted a t
$307 million.
Before sentence wa s pa ssed
. Belma s
a pologized for the injuries
. which ha ve ca us-
ed perma nent injury to five of the victims .
As friends looked on from the ga llery, she
rea d a prepa red sta tement tha t sa id In pa rt
" 1 mea nt no ha rm to a ny people I wa s a cting
a ga inst a wa r ma chine, not a ga inst the peo-
ple held within it "
Her la wyer. John Conroy, a sked fora term
of no more tha n 1 0 yea rs a nd cha ra cterized
her a s a woma n who wa s pa a siona tety com-
mitted to the ecology a nd a nti-nuclea r move-
ments a s well a s a n a na l tower a nd a rdent
feminist.
The judge rejected her a pology, sa ying it
wa s of little sola ce to the Mjuted.
And he sa id tha t other Ca na dia ns sha re
the concerns of Belma s a nd Ha nna h . but do
not resort to the sa me widens mea ns to rea ch
a politica l objective.
The court ha d been told ea rlier tha t a
police.pla nled electrode bug picked up a
conversa tion in which Dolma s a greed with a
friend more tha n a yea r a go tha t she wa s
proud of her role in the ba rbing
The bug a lso rela yed to a listening post in
the Coordina ted La w Enforcement Unit
hea dqua rters ta lk by Nimes in December.
1 982. a nd Ja nua ry . 1 987, a bout sa bota ging
the defence depa rtment budding in Otta wa ,
blowing up a number of CF-1 8Afighter jets
a t the Ca na dia n Forces Ba se a t Cold La ke,
Alberta . a nd dyna miting the icebrea ker
Terry Fox, then under construction a t a
North Va ncouver shipya rd. the judge wa s
told
Senior prosecutor Jim Ja rdine sa id
Belma s concluded she preferred the Cold
la ke proposa l to the Otta wa one a nd sa id
blowing up 40 CF-1 8As would be a grea t a c-
tion "
&Imes wa s hea rd a lso to fa y she thought
blowing up the icebrea ker, to he used in oils
well opera tions in the Bea ufort Sea , "wa s
rea l nea t" beca use it showed strength a nd
conveyed the public Ima ge of a group light-
ing for northern na tive peoples a nd a ga inst
environmenta l da ma ge
How did Beim', who once worked with
menta lly-ha ndica pped children, a nd Ha n-
na h, described by his mother a s one of the
kindest people in the world, get involved in
a cts of politica l terrorism'
Belma s, born in New Westminster into a
la rge. Roma n Ca tholic fa mily . la ter grew up
in Port Coquilla m a nd North Va ncouver
She ca noed, hiked, studied guita r a nd
coa ched softba ll. Then she got a job a t Wood-
la nds school, working the night shift to look
a lter the ha ndica pped pa tients while ta king
a n ethics course a t Dougla s College during
the da y.
But her life wa s cha nging From helping
orga nize benefit concerts by punk ba nds, she
went into a ma ga zine ca lling for ra dica l
a ctivism, the feminist movement a nd El
Sa lva dor protests.
She met Ha nna h through the Subhuma n'
a nd gra dua lly both beca me disillusioned
with wha t they were to la ter ca ll the punk
movement's la ck of commitment to "rea l
ra dica l cha nge ."
In 1 981 , the pa ir Left Va ncouver for Ja sper.
She worked a s a highwa ys fla gma n, he on
ma intena nce a t a nea rby ski resort la ter
the scene of the theft of a number of ra dios
a nd other equipment tha t were eventua lly
found a t a home the pa ir sha red In New Wes.
minster.
While in Ja per, Belma s filed a grieva nce
a ga inst her 'upervla or on the roa d crew,
cha rging him with semi ha ra ssment
. The
ma n la ter committed suicide.
One la wyer who la ter a cted for Belma s
sa id the situa tion ha d a greet dea l of emo-
tiona l impa ct on her
Ha nna h wa s born a nd ra ised in Burna by.
the youngest of five children
His mother, tole, sa ys he grew up loving
the environment but wa tching the world
a round him cha nge for the worse As a toy
he would come home with stories of turtles
spla shing in ponds nea r his home, in a n a rea
now covered by a shopping ma ll.
His frustra tion led him first to the a ngry
music of the punk movement a nd fellow
Burna by North high school student Rica ,
Zimmerma n remembers he a lwa ys "ha d
some ba nd or other going ."
After dropping out of school in Gra de I I. In
1 974, he worked a t va rious jobs Then he
cha se the na me Gerry Useless a nd joined the
Subhuma n', pla ying ba ss a nd writing lyrics
such a s one tha t goes:
"You ca ll us weirdos, ca llus cra zy
"Sa y we're evil, sa y we're la zy
"Sa y we'rejustthe violent type,
"Kind of dumb, not too bright.
"We don't ca re wha t you sa y,
With Belma s, whom he ca lled his wile-to
be, he beca me a ctive In environmenta l.
feminist a nd na tive-rights ca mpa igns
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On Ma rch 1 7, 1 984, Julie a nd myself pled
guilty a fter ma king a dea l with the
prosecution to ha ve some of the cha rges
a ga inst us dropped a nd less prison time
a sked for . This ca me a bout a fter 7 months
of exceedingly boring lega l ritua l in the
courtroom, which ha d begun on Sept. 6,
1 983. It ha d become pa infully obvious to
us over tha t period of time, tha t
continuing on with the tria ls wa s pointless
a s it would only dela y the inevita ble . The
cha nces of bea ting the cha rges were next
to none, a s both the judge a nd jury
weren't going to give us a ny brea ks, a nd
the evidence wa s overwhelming, to put it
mildly.
Julie ended up plea ding to 7 cha rges.
They were : conspira cy to commit robbery,
possession of da ngerous wea pons for a
da ngerous purpose, a ttempted a rson, ca r
theft, possession of stolen property,
possession of explosives for a da ngerous
purpose, a nd ca using a n explosion
intended to da ma ge property . I pled guilty
to the first 5 of these cha rges a s well, but
not the la st 2, a s there wa s no evidence to
support a ca se a ga inst me on them.
The a ttempted a rson cha rges stemmed from
the Nov. 83 firebombing of a pornogra phic
video store by a group ca lling itself
"Wimmins Fire Briga de" . The store wa s one
of ma ny such stores tha t specia lize in
videos which promote violence a ga inst
women a nd children. The "ca using a n
explosion" cha rge wa s in rela tion to the
Oct. 83 bombing of a fa ctory in Onta rio
(Litton Systems) which ma nufa ctures
electronic compoments for the Cruise
missile . Agroup ca lling itself "Direct
Action" cla imed responsibility for this
a ction.
Origina lly, the prosecution wa s a sking for
life sentences for both of us, but we
ma na ged to get him to come down
somewha t
. He fina lly a greed to a sk for
73-1 2z yea rs for ea ch of us . Unfortuna tely
though, the a uthorities in Onta rio
dema nded to ha ve a prosecutor represent
them a s well a t the sentencing hea ring . He
wa s to dea l with the cha rge stemming from
the Litton bombing, a nd he wa nted 1 0
a dditiona l yea rs to wha tever Julie got on
the 6 other cha rges. It certa inly wa sn't
the grea test dea l, but it wa s the best we
could get.
Once we ha d ma de the dea l a nd cha nged
our plea from innocent to guilty, we ha d
hoped to be sentenced right a wa y . As it
turned out though, the judge ma de us wa it
until Brent, Ann, a nd Doug's tria l wa s
over, a lmost 2 months la ter.
Mea nwhile, Brent, Ann, a nd Doug
continued on with the first tria l, a s
before, a nd it wa s still going nowhere.
Fina lly, on Ma y 6. the jury ca me ba ck with
guilty verdicts on a ll of the cha rges
a ga inst Brent a nd Ann, but a cquitted
Doug on a ll but one . The most serious
cha rge in this tria l wa s the cha rge of
"conspira cy to commit robbery
. Though
Ann a nd Brent unfortuna tely were
convicted on it, Doug wa s lucky enough to
get a n a cquitta l on it. At a ny ra te though,
a ll 3 of them still fa ce 4 more tria ls, which
include not only the firebombing a nd
bombing cha rges tha t I spoke of ea rlier,
but a lso a n a dditiona l cha rge of ca using a n
explosion . This cha rge is in rela tion to the
June 22, 1 982 bombing of a n
environmenta lly destructive hydroelectric
project on Va ncouver Isla nd, which wa s
a lso done by Direct Action . Their next
tria l bega n on June 1 1 , a nd its hoped it
will be more politica l tha n the la st one.
Anywa y, ba ck to Julie a nd I. On Ma y 1 0,
the sentencing hea ring for the 2 of us
fina lly bega n a nd la sted for 4 da ys.
During this time still more boring lega l
ritua l took pla ce a nd the press ha d a field
da y with the prosecution's twisted
portra its of us, a s well a s doing a little
mudslinging of their own . At the end of
the circus, the judge put over our a ctua l
sentencing to Ma y 1 8
. Our la wyers were
very optimistic a nd the prosecution very
worried tha t the judge wa s going to go
pretty ea sy on us
. As it turned out, they
were a ll dea d wrong. Sometime a round
noon on the da y of sentencing, a fter a
long pompous speech by the judge, I
found myself suddenly doing a 1 0 yea r
sentence. And Julie ha d done much worse.
The judge ha d given her 20 yea rs.
I must a dmit tha t we were surprised by
the severity of Julie's sentence
. This wa s
beca use we ha d unfortuna tely a llowed
ourselves to be lulled a ga inst our instincts
by a few people into believing tha t the
sta te would trea t this ca se the sa me wa y
a s a ny other "crimina l" ca se. As dedica ted
revolutiona ries though, we should ha ve
known better . The sta te is well a wa re of
the fa ct tha t guerilla struggle is the single
most effective method of bringing a bout
cha nge a nd a n eventua l end to oppression,
a nd therefore is its grea test threa t.
Obviously, it's going to dea l with it
a ccordingly
. It ha d to ma ke a n exa mple of
us in order to deter others from enga ging
in simila r a ctions
. Fortuna tely, this ta ctic
ha s historica lly fa iled them misera bly
. More
often tha n not, it only serves to show
people the true na ture of the sta te a nd
encoura ges them to destroy it
. Also, the
sta te ca n't seem to gra sp the fa ct tha t a s
long a s oppression continues, resista nce
will too, a nd neither 20 yea r sentences nor
even dea th will ever deter those truly
dedica ted to resisting oppression . They'll
continue to fight beca use they know they
ha ve no choice.
Though the tria ls a re a ll over with for
Julie a nd I, the ba ttle still continues for
us, a s it does for Brent, Ann, a nd Doug.
We'd still a pprecia te a ny support people
a re a ble to give, whether fina ncia l or just
mora l. Of course we hope you'll a ll
continue to write us a s well. Also, you
ma y be interested in checking out a
pa mphlet we recently put out. It's ca lled
"Wrintings Of The Va ncouver Five", a nd
includes poems, essa ys, a nd a rtwork by
us, a nd is a va ila ble for $1 .50 from the
Free The Five Defense Committee/ P
.O.
Box 48296/ Benta ll Sta tion/ Va ncouver,
B
.C
./ CANADAV7X 1 AI. Anywa y, ta ke
ca re, be strong, a nd resist a lwa ys . The
spirit of freedom ca nnot be subdued! In
love a nd struggle, Gerry
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Bomber invokes duty to save world
NEW WESTMINSTER, B
.C. (CP) Ann Brit
Ha nsen defended her sa bota ge of three business-
es in British Columbia Supreme Court yester-
da y, sa ying tha t she ha d a mora l obliga tion to
prevent the destruction of the ea rth.
Miss Ha nsen, 30, of New Westminster, plea d-
ed guilty Monda y to the Oct. 1 4,
1 982, bombingof
Litton Systems in which 1 0 people were injured;
dyna miting a B.C. Hydro substa tion on Va n-
couver Isla nd Ma y 31 , 1 982 ; setting fire to a Red
Hot Video Store in North Va ncouver ; a nd pos-
session of a bout 680 kilogra ms of explosives a nd
da ngerous wea pons.
Miss Ha nsen sa id in a lengthy sta tement she
is not a terrorist
: "I a m a person who feels a
mora l obliga tion
to do a ll tha t is huma nly possi-
ble to prevent the destruction of the ea rth_ Busi-
nesses such a s Litton, B
.C. Hydro a nd Red Hot
Video a re the rea l terrorists."
Ea rlier in the da y, Crown counsel Kevin Gil-
lett a sked Mr
. Justice Sa muel Toy to impose a
life sentence on Miss Ha nsen beca use of the
enormity of the crimes a nd the need to deter
others from terrorist a cts in pursuit of politica l
ca uses.
Toronto pea ce a ctivist Kenneth Ha ncock drew
enthusia stic a ppla use from a bout 50 Ha nsen
supporters in the courtroom when he compa red
Litton Systems a nd its officia ls to Na zi wa r
crimina ls beca use they help build cruise mis-
siles. Judge Toy sa id he would not tolera te fur-
ther outbursts in the court.
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This is in response to a letter from
Steve of Enterta inment Revue in MRR #1 4,
which conta ined some comments rega rding
our ca se. Like him, I too believe tha t
pa cifism is not a n excuse for pa ssive-ism.
Unfortuna tely, it is a ll too true tha t ma ny
individua ls in the pea ce movement a nd
punk scenes ha ve mindlessly juped upon
the pea ce/non-violence ba ndwa gon a nd
ha ve swa llowed a dogma tic pa cifist ideology
whole, without chewing it first to check
out if it ca n be a ppropria te or effective in
its a pplica tion in North America . I a m not
a pa ficist a nd politica lly I a m critica l of
pa cifism a s a philosophy/methodology by
which the corpora te milita ry sta te ca n be
torn down, but I do respect the true
pa cifist a ctivists who struggle a nd resist
continuously, a nd who a re willing to risk
their lives a nd freedom to fight the
greedy, destructive system which
threa tens us a ll. There a re ma ny pa cifist
a ctivists who a re very sincere a nd
dedica ted a nd who ha ve contributed a n
enormous a mount over the yea rs towa rds
ma king people a wa re of the evils of
milita rism, nuclea rism, a nd a uthorita ria n
modes of thought. I believe tha t
individua ls for whom pa cifism is the
expression of their inner na ture a nd their
deeply held mora l convictions should
a lwa ys be respected . But a s a stra tegy for
socia l cha nge, I find pa cifism is highly
ina dequa te. Certa inly non-violent ta ctics
ca n be very effective in ma ny a rea s a nd
pha ses of the struggle, however this does
not mea n tha t non-violence should be
eleva ted into a n ideology of pa cifism a nd
become the overa ll principle guiding the
struggle
. In this rega rd, I support the
idea s which Gerry is presently working
into a n a rticle he hopes will be printed in
a future issue of MRR, a nd a lso the ra p in
issue #1 4 by 'We From Kronsta dt'--"Area l
fa r-going rebellion is the kind of thing
tha t ca n free us

the current mess".

Obviously Steve's observa tion tha t
most of the punk interest in our ca se ha s
been beca use Gerry wa s a member of the
SUBHUMANS is true- Oka y, so tha t's a bit
of punkism or something
. Still I think
tha t, rega rdless of the rea son punks first
bega n to show concern, it is a good thing
tha t punks a re now thinking a bout the
issues involved. I think tha t the issues
involved -direct a ction, illega l resista nce,
a ctivism repression, police sta te rea lities,
a nd

the

politics

of

environmenta l
protection, a nti-sexism, a nti-imperia lism,
a nd a na rchism- a re a ll importa nt in the
ongoing development of a more politica lly
conscious

a nd

effective

movement.
Hopefully, punks will now begin
supporting other freedom fighters a nd
resista nce groups too. There a re Na tive
America n, Bla ck, Chica no, Puerto Rica n,
a nd White guerrilla s fighting in Amerika
right now
. As well, other politica l
prisoners should be supported a s they a re
most definitely pa rt of the sa me struggle
for which we now find ourselves behind
ba rs . For informa tion on guerrilla s a ctive
in N. Amerika a nd Europe, write to
Resista nce : Documents a nd Ana lysisfrom
theIllega lFront/ Box 790/ Sta tion A/
Va ncouver, B
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. Send
them a couple of bucks a nd a sk for a few
ba ck issues . Their publica tion is certa inly
worth the price of a nother couple of
beers. By the wa y, the orga nized "Free
The Five" support groups a lso support
other politica l prisoners, though it is
unfortuna tely true tha t you don't hea r
much of a peep from punks for a ll the
other individua ls inca rcera ted a ll over the
world for simila r a ctions a s ours.
Aga in in response to one of Steve's
points, there ha s been no cover-up of the
fa ct tha t people were injured a s a result of
the Litton bombing . Just 5 da ys a fter the
bombing, Direct Action relea sed to the
ma ss media a deta iled 3-pa ge a pology a nd
expla na tion of how the injuries occurred.
In it they criticized themselves a nd a lso
If it is not perfectly clea r,
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Further Upda te
Life sentences were ha nded out to Brent
a nd Ann. The severity of the sta te's
punishment contra sts sha rply with the
sentences in simila r ca ses . There were
some Ma fia bombings in Toronto of some
resta ura nts in which ma ny dea ths
occurred
. Sentence :6 yea rs. Aright- wing
bombing recently only brought a bout a 2
year sentencefor its perpetrator.
Obviously, thestatefelt very much more
threatened by themotivation ofthe
Vancouver 5, and meted out extremely
harsh sentences as a means ofdeterring
any others who felt similarly ; and just as
obviously, thestateis much moreat home
with right-wing activists and theMafia.
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gua rds for their slow a nd inept ma nner of
clea ring the Litton fa ctory of workers
. Of
the 1 0 people injured, 5 were police or
security gua rds
. In plea ding guilty to the
Litton bombing, my lover Ann Ha nsen sa id
in court tha t guerrilla s should never rely
on the a uthorities to eva cua te buildings,
a nd therefore, tha t a tta cks should not be
ca rried out a ga inst ta rgets which need to
be clea red of people. The rea son why
there ha sn't been a ny empha sis rega rding
the injuries is beca use they weren't wha t
wa s significa nt a bout the a ction ; they were
simply a n unfortuna te a ccident which
ha ppened a s a result of it
. Politica lly wha t
is significa nt a bout the Litton bombing is
tha t it proposed a resista nce stra tegy
a ga inst the wa r ma chine--ca lling for it to
be a tta cked directly a nd sa bota ged--a nd
decla red tha t we must go beyond the
confines of lega lity in order to someda y
overthrow the corpora te milita ry sta te.
Tha t's a ll for now
. Sta y out of
trouble, or ra ther, don't get ca ught! Ta ke
good ca re of ea ch other.
Brent Ta ylor/ Oa ka lla Prison/ Dra wer 0/
the Toronto police a nd Litton security Burna by BC/ Ca na da V5H 3N4.
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Western Wa sh . sta tion KUGS is a mixed
ba g, with a couple of good ha rdcore
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END OF AN ERA
Lots of stuff going on here . . .too much,
perha ps . First, a s reported la st issue, the
On Broa dwa y closed down on June 1 6, due
to loss of lea se
. Tha t puts, a t lea st
tempora rily, Dirk Dirksen a nd Pa ul Ra t out
of business. They've both been promoting
punk shows here since '77
. The fina l da ys
of the O.B
. were rea lly hectic . At a n
EXPLOITED gig, we were trea ted to a
specta cle which epitomizes, a t lea st to me,
a ll tha t's wrong with the punk scene.
After a ll the opening ba nds ha d pla yed,
the EXPLOITED refused to pla y
. Sa y wha t?
Cha os reigned. Dirk tried to expla in it to
the crowd . Shouted down. Wha t wa s going
on? As best a s I could piece together, the
EXPLOITED refused to pla y beca use they
didn't like the wa y "Pa ul Ra t a nd Dirksen
trea ted them" . I hea rd them tell Dirk
ba cksta ge tha t they just "didn't wa nt to
pla y"
. The specific compla ints, a s they
told them to Ga ry Tova r of Goldenvoice
Productions (who booked the show) wa s
tha t some things in the rider to the
contra ct weren't met
. Appa rently, they
didn't get a s much beer a s they were
supposed to (a lthough one of Dirk's sta ff
did go out a nd buy them a ca se), a nd
a nother compla int wa s "no hot towels"
. In
a ny ca se, I must ba cktra ck a little for this
to ma ke more sense.
First, the Sa n Fra ncisco Police Depa rtment
a re on a big cra ckdown to clea n up
Broa dwa y of punks before the Democra tic
Convention
. This mea ns trying to bust the
O.B
. a nd Ma b for a llowing under-1 8 's in,
a nd by sweeping the streets, a rresting
a ny minors they ca n
. On the previous
Sunda y a nd Monda y, the cops entered the
Ma b a nd tried their ha rdest to find some
viola tions to close it down, but couldn't.
The night before the EXPLOITED show,
they entered the O.B
., found some girls
under 1 8, (a nd a s the unverified story ha s
it) took them outside in the a lley a nd bea t
them up . These cra ckdowns come
periodica lly for va rious politica l rea sons
(usua lly before elections), but this one is
getting pretty ugly, with pa ddie wa gons
a ll over the pla ce . It is true tha t some
punks a nd skins ha ve brought shit down
on themselves by sta rting fights in the
street out front a nd by being obnoxious
drunks, but the response from the police
ha s been even more obnoxious
. How does
a ll this rela te to the EXPLOITED gig, you
a sk? Well, on the previous night, beca use
minors couldn't get in, the ga te wa s sma ll.
MINIMALMAN's Pa trick Miller sa id he wa s
gua ra nteed $200, but gla dly a ccepted $1 00,
since "the crowd just wa sn't there" . The
other ba nd, TUPELO CHAIN SEX, wa s
gua ra nteed $250, a nd got a round $1 75. So,
on the night of the EXPLOITED gig, they
(TCS) showed up trying to collect the
rest. Aga in, beca use the door wa s sma ll
from a ll the minors being turned a wa y a s a
result of police pressure, Ra t wa sn't a ble
to pa y them the rest, nor meet some of the
incidenta ls of the EXPLOITED's contra ct.
So TCS ra ised a fuss, cops were ca lled,
a nd TCS escorted out. Perha ps beca use
some of them a re British, Wa ttle felt some
kind of solida rity (like with the JAM,
right?), a nd this a dded to his a nger.
Ma ybe he wa s a lso bugged beca use the
crowd wa s so sma ll, but tha t wa sn't the
O.B
.'s fa ult, a s they try whenever
possible to let the kids in.
OUR HERO WATTIE
So, wha t does Wa ttle do? He gra bs the
mike from Dirk (who's trying to expla in to
the crowd tha t the EXPLOITED won't pla y,
a nd tha t people ca n collect refunds a t the
door on the wa y out), a nd tells the crowd
he won't pla y beca use "this club ripped us
off, a nd ripped you off, so rip it a pa rt"
or something like tha t. Grea t. He nea tly
turns the a lrea dy pissed off crowd
(beca use the EXPLOITED a ren't pla ying,
beca use the door wa s $7.50, a nd beca use
minors couldn't get in) a ga inst Dirk . So a ll
sorts of kids (who weren't even 7 yea rs
old when Dirk wa s putting on his first
punk show) bega n screa ming a t Dirk,
throwing

shit a t him,

a nd cha nting
"Wa t-tie, Wa t-tie, Wa t-tie" . "Ug-ly" is
more like it. It wa s a rea l chea p shot to
turn the frustra tion a ga inst Dirk .. .a nd
rea lly sickening to see the kids ea t it up,
when in rea lity it wa s the 'rock-sta r' egos
of the EXPLOITED tha t were the rea l ca use
of the problem. They, of course, didn't
tell the crowd wha t they ha d told Dirk a nd
Tova r ba cksta ge (tha t it wa s beca use their
fringe benifits ha dn't been met), a nd
opportunistica lly ma de it seem like it wa s
a ll being done 'for the kids
' .
Unfortuna tely, Tova r did not ta ke the
mike, but he could've told the crowd tha t
the EXPLOITED ha d received ha lf of their
gua ra teed $750 before the show, a nd would
get the other ha lf a fterwa rds, even if they
didn't pla y . I think it's a ma tter of ba nds
egos getting built up by promoters
gua ra nteeing them lots of money, a nd a
ca se of the crowds a ccepting the
'rock-sta r' a ttitudes of the ba nds . If this
shit is to stop, promoters should only
gua ra ntee ga s money (the rest depending
on the dra w of the ba nd), a nd crowds
should stop idolizing ba nds.
SO WHATELSE IS NEW
On to other news. Severa l people a re
sta rting to fill the ga p left by the closing
of the O.B. MRR is sponsoring a series of
summer shows a t the Ma b (without ta king a
cut) to gua ra ntee touring ba nds a S
.F.
show. Also doing shows a t Ruthie's in
Berkeley is the D.M.R .'s (a bunch of
rowdies-turned-responsible).
Dirk, besides concentra ting on video
for TV, hopes to do some free outdoors
shows, a nd Ra t sa ys he'll return from the
Ea st in the fa ll to see wha t to do.
Jennifer, who worked a t the door a t the
O .B. ha s some pla ns too. Ga ry Tova r of
L.A. is a lso looking for a ha ll to do shows
in S.F., a nd MRR hopes he ca n find one,
but a lso hopes tha t monopolistic tendencies
don't develop, a s they often do a fter a
promoter rea ches the 'big time', a nd tha t
this "gua ra ntee" bullshit ca n be controlled
a nd ga te prices brought down to "punk"
prices . So, perha ps this closing of the
O .B. will bring new a nd interesting
situa tions. But a s long a s crowds continue
to mindlessly pa nder to the egos of ba nds,
promoters continue this big gua ra ntee a nd
big ticket cra p, a nd people continue to
ta ke for gra nted regula r venues a nd the
ha rd work of people like Dirk (he's no
a ngel, but he ha s done more for the scene
tha n 99% of us), then ma ybe it's better if
the whole thing dies for a while. The
"rock & roll" business menta lity a nd "rock
& roll" crowd menta lity a re killing the
scene.
ROCK & ROLL& STATE CONTROL
By the time you rea d this, the Democra tic
Convention will be a bout over . Besides a ll
the demonstra tions pla nned, a R.A.R . gig
will ha ve ta ken pla ce on the fina l da y,
outside of the Moscone Convention Center,
with the DEAD KENNEDYS, M.D.C.,
REAGAN YOUTH, a nd others . This brings
up the question of whether or not
pa rticipa tion in the electora l process is a
worthwhile effort or not. There'll be a lot
more on this subject next issue.
BAND NEWS
REBELS AND INFIDELS a nd SLUGLORDS
recently hit the roa d, a nd D.R.I. a nd the
DICKS returned home . . .The DKS a re
pla ying out a ga in, with wildma n Da rren
ba ck in form a fter his motorcycle
wreck.. .Spea king of 'returns from the
dea d', it's grea t to see severa l 'older'
members of the scene a round a ga in, ha ving
gotten themselves free of speed . Hope a
lot of the younger kids ta ke
note. . .M.D.C. a re still looking for a new
drummer .
..CODE OF HONOR, more 'meta l'
a ll the time, fina lly got their new LP
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ORANGE COUNTY
We thought it wa s a bout time to let you a ll
know tha t Ora nge County ha s a scene too.
O.C. borders the Pa cific Ocea n on the
south, the outskirts of L
.A. (the Olympic
shithole) a re on the north a nd west, a nd
the very tip of Sa n Diego is to the ea st.
Due to our va st a rea , we ma y miss a ba nd
or two we ma y ha ve not hea rd of. This is
our version of the O.C. scene.
First off, there a re two clubs in the a rea :
the concert fa ctory in Costa Mesa , a nd
Icha bod's (R .I.P.) in Fullerton . The
former, which used to be ca lled the
Cuckoo's Nest, ha s ha d some good ba nds
pla y there in the pa st
. Toda y, it goes
under the na me of the Concert Fa ctory a nd
puts on punk shows a bout once a
weekend
. They ha ve a nnounced 3 times
since Ma y tha t they were closing, but it
still rema ins open . Icha bod's used to
fea ture punk on Sunda ys, but trouble
closed it down .Now most of the L.A. a nd
O.C. shows a re put on the infa mous
Ca tha y De Gra nde in Hollywood, a nd
Goldenvoice Productions deserve a big
ha nd for their support of the L
.A. punk
scene, a s they a re the ba ckbra ce of the
whole scene.
Now for the ba nds
: O.C. is the home o a
lot of the older punk ba nds of the pa st.
MIDDLE CLASS (the first thra sh ba nd),
T.S.O.L. (with Ja ck), SOCIALD,
VANDALS, a nd AGENTORANGE. But O.C.
is a lso the home for ma ny loca l ba nds tha t
some of you ma y know, a nd some ma y not.
Some tha t ha ve relea sed vinyl a re D
.I. a nd
CONFEDERATE (on Revenge Records).
PLAIN WRAP is a hot loca l 3-piece who
formed from the guita rist a nd drummer of
MOX-NIX with Don on voca ls. They a re
rea lly, rea lly good . Their demo is a va ila ble
for $3. M.I .A. now resides in Ora nge Co.
a fter moving from La s Vega s 2 yea rs a go .
BLACK LABELis our other loca l ba nd,
a nd a re a cross between punk a nd BLACK
SABBATH/HENDRIX . They've been a round
forever
. SIGNALOF DISTRESS is from
right nea r Cypress. They've been a round
for 3 months a nd a re a good 5-piece
thra sh combo
. FIRSTOFFENSE is a nother
of our fa vorites. They sound like a cross
between MINOR THREATa nd TARGETOF
DEMAND . They've got a demo a nd record
pla ns . La stly is BODY COUNT, our only
serious veggie ba nd . They ha ve strong
views on government a nd world a ffa irs.
Their demo is a va ila ble for 2 sta mps a nd a
penny
. How ca n you go wrong with tha t?
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a bout a re PIG CHILDREN, TURMOIL,
DEATH ROSTER, CRASH COURSE, LOVE
CANAL(grea t live), SCARECROWS, LANE
BRYANT, VIOLENTPSYCHOSIS, OPEN
THE DOOR, MOX-NIX, a nd YOU PRICK
(Hi Terry!).
Guess tha t's a bout a ll. Here a re some
a ddresses, including those of our fa nzines.
Tha nks, Scott & Fra nk.
Pissed & Proud/ c/o Scott/ P.O. Box 501 1 /
Ga rden Grove CA92645 ($1 ). . .Red Ta pe/
c/o Fra nk/ 581 2 Roxbury Ct/
Cypress CA90630 .. .FightFor Freedom/
31 91 Ruth Ela ine Dr/ Los Ala mitos CA
90720 . . .O.C. Shitz/ 1 3222 Siemon St/
Ga rden Grove CA90630 . . .Non-Tra ditiona l
Zine/ 9680 Pa lm/ Fonta na CA92335.
Ind a ddresses : MOX-NIX/ 1 6235 La kewood
Blvd #22/ Bellflower CA 90706
. ..PLAIN
WRAP/ 6531 Abbott Dr/ Huntington Bea ch
CA92647. ..PIG CHILDREN/21 4 S Gra nd/
Ana heim CA92804 ..
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(c/o RedTa pe). . . BODY COUNT/
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92803. . .S.O.D., UNITY, a nd a ll the rest
(c/o Red Ta pe).
They ha ve a
good, tight ma instrea m punk
sound, ba la nced between fa st a nd slow
tunes, a nd their new LP will be out on
Alterna tive Tenta cles. M.I.A. ha s a strong
dedica tion to the O.C. scene, a nd pla y a
lot! DON'TNO is moving to O.C. sometime
soon
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tunes, mostly of the fa st driving na ture.
They a re one to wa tch, a nd we ca n't wa it
for their pla nned vinyl to a ppea r
. UNITY
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Positive Menta l Attitude. They just got a
new singer . Another one of our fa vorites
is UNIFORM CHOICE
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Concert Fa ctory lots of times, a nd pra ctice
rea l ha rd. They a re powerful, fa st a nd
super-tight
. They ha ve some cool shirts
for $3 (screened on both sides), so write
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few times, is dea d. PLEDGE OF
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DALLAS- deep in the hea rt o t e cu tura
wa stela nd known a s Da lla s, Texa s, lies a
growing underground scene
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public ra dio sta tion, KNON, with 4
a lterna tive music shows, there a re some
grea t ga ra ges, ditches, a nd ra mps
frequented by loca ls such a s Jeff Phillips
a nd Cra ig Johnson, a nd there is a club,
Twilite Room, tha t's trying to help wa ke
up Da lla s. The club, which used to be a
ha lfwa y house for street people a nd
a lcoholics,

a s conver ed into iberty Ha ll,

a n a ll-a ges club, by loca ls using only
supplies a lrea dy in the building . It did a ll
right, but couldn't pa y the bills, so the
owner converted the downsta irs into a ba r,
a nd thus wa s born the Twilite Room
. It is
best described a s a n upside down Tool &
Die with no security ha ssles a nd ra rely
a ny police a ctivity
. The minors policy is
sketchy now, but occa ssiona l shows ca n be
worked out. Anyone wishing booking info
should ca ll either the club (21 4)939-3072,
or me, Da nny, a t (21 4)231 -0533
. Sleeping
qua rters a re a lso a va ila ble, a nd we a re
directly en route on a ny tour of the
South.
Ma in loca l ba nds a t present a re the
HOLY, STINKY SHITS, MASTERS OF
DISASTER, STICKMEN W!RAYGUNS (still
holding on), a nd SKETCH (who a re on a
tempora ry lea ve of a bsence)
. Rumor ha s
BOMB SQUAD broken up a nd some ungodly
MELCOOLIES & BLOODGRUNTa re not too
fa r
on the horizon.
Also of note, this summer is the much
a wa ited return of Pres . Ronnie a nd his
G .O.P. Convention August 1 9-24 . Anyone
wishing to be a pa rt of this wo derful bit
of history should conta ct the Da lla s Ma rch
& Ra lly Committee (21 4)421 -1 984/ 1 507 A
So
. Erva y/ Da lla s TX 7521 5
. Lots is
pla nned, including 'tent city' ra llies a nd a
sla ted outdoor R .A.R
. show.
Tha t's it for now
. Anyone wishing to
know more or just correspond, write me
a t
: 1 41 5 Dumont/ Richa rdson TX 75080.
P
.S.-we're sta rting a ta bloid--the Ca ttle
Prod.
Hi)USTON- Cluhs : they seem to come a nd
o

i t a t present th c.,- est pla ce in

4, .:. xu is ca ned C:onsoi :Ja ec Arts
Wa rcuouse . Its not a club, L.rt a gn ya ntic
ha ll
. After the VERBALABUSE show, the
owner ha s decided on some stricter rules,
like no ins-a nd-outs, no spiked bra celets,
etc . Another pla ce to pla y is Ca ba ret
Volta ire, a rea l sma ll loca le tha t's giving
punks a pla ce to ha ng out. La wnda le
Alterna tive (Annex) ha s ha d some grea t
shows. It's a DIY ha ll too. Chuck Roa st
(DJ on the 'Funhouse" show on KPFT) ha s
been doing these gigs.
New

ba nds :

SKI

PENIS

pla y

a n
experimenta l, unstructured, a va nt
music . . .BEEF SKURTS, a trio, pla y fa st
meta l punk . . .ORGASM, a nother trio, pla y
powerful punk a nd sound a bit like
D.O.A. . .LETHALINJECTION pla y
core/thra sh a nd a re energetic a nd to the
point. . .PARTY OWLS, Houston's fa vorite
pa rty

ba nd,

pla y

ska tepunk

(fa ve
song-"Check Your Dick For
Spots"). .
.CIVILDISOBEDIENCE a re a
young high school ba nd looking for their
own style--mea n sounding voca ls . ..
Old ba nds
: MYDOLLS pla y out a ll the
time..
.CULTURCIDE pla y out more tha n
they used to--good dea l...THREE DAY
STUBBLE still pla y their 'nerd
rock' . .
.INTROVERTS ha ve not pla yed in a
while.. .REALLY RED ha ve ca lled it quits
a fter 5-6 yea rs--too ba d!
. . .AK- 47 still
REALLY RED-la st gig
pla ying, should ha ve a n LP soon, but not
HC though . . .ANARCHITER still together in
some form,,,VEX broke up--they pla yed
core punk with CRASS influenced lyrics--
too ba d...USUALS cha nged their na me a nd
a re hea ding for Sa nFra n . . .There's
supposed to be a Houston sa mpler coming
out, but one never knows.
We ha ve a strong punk scene here, with
new fa ces a t every show. Loca l shows
suffer in a ttenda nce, but na tiona l shows
ca n dra w between 350-900 . Out-of-town
ba nds looking for a gig in Houston ca ll
Tom Bunch (71 3)444-6260, or KPFT
'Funhouse' Sunda y nites a t 1 1 PM or lea ve
messa ge a t (71 3)526-4000 a nd a sk for
Chuck Roa st.
Kevin Ha rr/ 1 4630
Corpus Christi/ Houston
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NAKED RAYGUN ha ve sold a ll their 45's,

a nd a re on the upcoming Flipside LP . They
ha ve a lso found a new drummer (Eric,
ex-DV8), a nd a re pla ying out a ga in a fter a
4 month a bsence . Their new LP looks like
a la te fa ll relea se, a nd 2 short tours a re
pla nned this summer . A.O.F. a re currently
working ha rd on their upcoming LP (out
this month, hopefully)
. They
a lso pla n to
tour Ca na da a nd the Ea st Coa st in ea rly
summer, a nd perha ps the West la ter on.
EFFIGIES LP should be everywhere by
now, a nd it
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s not too ba d. They went on a
short Ea st Coa st tour in ea rly June, but a
lot of shows got ca ncelled . They will go
West in July, a nd do a nother "big" L.A.
show with a couple of English ba nds.
SAVAGE BELIEFS ha ve written a lot of
new ma teria l, a nd a re working on a vinyl
project right now. RIGHTS OF THE

ACCUSED ha ven't pla yed in town in recent

~ months, but ha ve been pla ying elsewhere
in the Midwest. They a dded a second
guita rist in Ja nua ry. Their EP is in the
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CENTRALILLINOIS-First of a ll, there a re

Zines a re Deckhea d (send

3 ma jor towns in this a rea :

Peoria ,

sta mps)/ 1 633 N. Stephens! Springfield IL

Bloomington, a nd Springfield
. I'll sta rt

62702 . This is one of the best zines you

with Peoria , where I live . There used to

ca n buy . I don't know if Putz is still

be a punk ba nd with our singer, ca lled

comin' out, but it wuz grea t. Springfield

BLOODY MESS. Now, there a re supposed

Ga zette wuz cool, but I think it's dea d

to be 2 ba nds sta rting. CHIPS PATROLis

too . Ma cho is a fa shion tine, but I've

ours . We just got a new singer ca lled never seen a n issue.
Bloody Mess . He's rea l cra zy a nd sounds
cool! We used to be ca lled ELECTRIC
COOL- AID, then BALDY SOUR
. we're
gonna record a demo soon, a nd then put
out a 1 2" . Any interested la bels out there?
We should be pla yin' the Midwest a nd Ea st
Coa st this summer, so hold your brea th till
we get there
. Two new ba nds a re EN-LAW
(from Wa shington, ILwho use a coustic
guita r, echoey voca ls, a nd stra nge
drums), a nd MINUTE RICE (from Pekin,
ma de up of 1 5 yea r olds who a lso put out
Public Upchucking zine/ 301 La keside #B/
Pekin IL61 554).
Fa nzines here include : Primitive Noise (204
& a 204 sta mp). Tha t's my zine. Then
there there's Dea d Lla ma On AKa iser,
which is 204 . It's my brother's zine.
Addresses for both a re a t the end of the
a rticle. We will soon be ha ving shows
here
. Ba nds, we ca n get a bout 1 00 people
to show up, plus ma ybe $50-$1 00 for you.
Next is Bloomington, which is a bout 40
miles a wa y . They got a ba nd, but I don't
know their na me. They got a couple of
punks a nd a n over-21 club, but sorry--I
don't know much a bout this town.
Fina lly, Springfield, which is a bout 60
miles from here . NxIxLx8 a re a cool thra sh
ba nd . They ha ve a ta pe out, plus cuts on
Sta rving Dogs. UNCLE SAM'S WAR
WOUNDS a re a nother ba nd who do punk,
regga e, funk, etc ., plus the multi-ta lented
CRAWFORD & THE VILLAGE IDIOTS
COUGAR MELLENKAMP, but both broke
up. Ha ppy news: BOILORDER is a new
fun ba nd ma de up of 3 people (ex-
CRAWFORD/IDIOTS a nd ex-NxIxLxB.
Everything is in full swing here--tons of
ba nds (touring a nd loca l), but only a few
pla ces to pla y. Also, a s a nywhere else,
the a ttenda nce fluctua tes a t ea ch
show--you ca n never tell!
OUTOF ORDER a re currently
looking for a new drummer, a nd finding it
a bit ha rd. When one is found, recording
a nd gigs a re the ma in pla ns
. NADSAT
REBELS just pla yed for the first time in
months beca use of Ma tt's (guita r) leg
opera tion . They ma y do a single on a loca l
la bel. By the time you've rea d this, the
ba nd (no na me yet) of Chris, Da ve, Tom,
a nd Joey will ha ve pla yed out a nd should
ha ve a ta pe out
. END RESULTa re still
together, but with severa l new members
(including a girl!), a nd ma y pla y out this
summer .
LIFE SENTENCE a re ca tching
everyone's eyes a nd ea rs these da ys.
Quite a n impressive ba nd, a nd a ll shows
ha ve been consistent
. They a re doing a
HC/HM show in July with Chica go's own
speed/meta l kings, ZOETROPE
. Severa l
other ba nds should be debuting this July
& August, only time will tell how ma ny (or
few)
. La st Rites #7 is out now a nd ca n be
rea ched a t (a lso me)
: 1 71 7 Sunnyside
Bea ch Dr/ McHenry IL60050
. Other tines
include
: Ra ve-up a nd Kitty Wompom.
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Boston, Mass
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through personnel changes, but stay
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to play, but when they do they don't mess
around
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first all- ages show, and hopefully will do
so again . Their Contradiction EP of 8
loons is available for $2 .5 0 c/o Shag Dog
Records/ 13 14 Aultview Ave/ Cincinnati OH
45 208. They'vealso undergonesomeminor
personnel changes, and are working on
new material which isf supposed to be
faster than earlier stuff . They will also do
a small tour with Columbus' HUMAN
SUFFERAGE .

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I with and use to fill out my set of bad
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the REPELLANTS of India na fa me) on
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just finished recording a n LP, titled Give
It Up, which should be out by mid-July.
MS is a lso working out a summer/fa ll tour
a ll over the U.S. For more info on the LP
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Ja kki a t (51 3)563-21 05.
More ba nds include the punk /funk of
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will find a scene deep in the mounta ins of
'the la nd of inbreeding a nd sla g-pile'
surfing' . Areport from Cha rleston a few*,
issues a go ga ve the indica tion tha t the
hottest 'scene' in the sta te wa s ha ppening*
right there in the ca pitol. I guess it is,
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OF
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the biggest 'new wa ve' ba nd in the sta te,
a nd the core of the scene in Cha rleston.
Now, if we ca n just keep it there.
As I sa id, our own 'scene' is very sma ll.
There's just one ba r in town tha t ha s 'noo'
music, a nd they don't ha ve it tha t
often
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. .
.a nd since only a rela tive ha ndful*
of people a re into it, it's not exa ctly the.
hottest commercia l proposition
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ba nds--GENE POOL, a journey to the*
center of the universe's mind (with vinyl*
y,
in the nea r future), a nd the only ha rdcoreT~
ba nd in West Virginia , DASH & THE.
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now a va ila ble
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prea chy politics with a twisted sense of*
humor to produce a style of thra sh
humor to produce a style of thra sh tha t
could only be spa wned in Morga ntown
; a nd*
if there's ever a ny sta gediving to be done
'round these pa rts, it's done a t their gigs.
So tha t's it from the hea rt of Appa la chia -- fjlf,
thra sh a nd a na rchy a re a live a nd well
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Angst" ($3), or if your ba nd will be*
pla ying close a nd would be interested in
gigging here, ca ll (304)296-2949,
or writer
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CINCINNATI-Cincy's 'frea k show' is better
The 2 regula r tines a re Sub Cin a nd
Altered Sta tements, both of which cover a ll
types of a lterna tive music in the Cinti a rea
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Cincinna ti's origina l fa nzine, Suburba n
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Box 9003/ Cinti OH 45209.
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Their booking policy ca n't get a ny more
libera l without brea king la ws tha t ca rry
hea vy fines a nd they bring na tiona l a nd
interna tiona l a cts . They ha ve a lso given
most of the a rea 's new ba nds a cha nce to
get exposure
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441 -5724.
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ra dio 88.3FM, pla ying HC a nd only HC
from a round the world . Send Clem your
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CREEPER
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Onceth upon a time there lived this
midwestern rube who wa s a college creepo
ha ppened into a bookstore a nd ha ppened to
ga pe a ga nder a t a slea zy British ta bloid
whose bold fa ced hea dline gra bbed the
geek's undivided a ttention . . ."SEX PISTOLS
SHOCKER" seemed a curious phra se for
this unitia ted clod who wa s a t the time
ca rting home a sta ck of the la test GURU
GURU LP coupled with a couple of other
"gems" .. .who were these tousled cretins
wrestling with midgets? "Hmmmm", the
prep thought. .
.va s is dis stirring in me
loins??? The undercurrent of cha nge wa s
indeed rea ring its long overdue
hea d . . .wha t wa s ha ppening in this spring
of 77 wa s a very necessa ry
tra nsforma tion . .a musica l cha nging of the
gua rd, if you will. .
.wha t followed in terms
of a flurry of independents ha s been
documented more ca pa bly elsewhere, so
this discourse will not a ttempt such
redunda ncy . . .wha t will tra nspire in these
columns is but one ca ts observa tions on
the specific a rt of hoa rding/ sca venging/
thieving/ ma nipula ting/ a nd yes,
collecting . . .the bug tha t's ca tching certa in
folks a nd won't let go. . .whether it be a
genera l lust for a ll tha t ha s come to pa ss
(rea d-- one Jeff Ba le's desire to own
every punk record ever ma de. . .a serious
nut, ga ng!!!) or those who a re more
specificselecting one or two combos a nd
then sea rching out everything ever
relea sed right down to the nitty gritty . . .It
ha rdly seems like 7 yea rs since I ha uled
sta cks of "cla ssics"
off
for
resa le . ..ANGEL/ JANE/ DUST/ TUCKY
BUZZARD/ a nd countless other nea r
pla tinum gems
. . .only to ra ce off with my
pennies on the buck to sna tch the la test
from the bowels of LAa nd London . . .not
only were ra gs like Sla sh a nd Sea rch &
Destroy a necessity for us few in midtown
USAwith a need to broa den our musica l
ba sethey were singleha ndedly responsible
for keeping us on top of the then godlike
ha ppenings in Sa n Fra n a nd LAtha t we
could only drea m a bout,,,we ca n only
ima gine a conversa tion on the night of
June 1 6, 1 978. . .between a couple of guys
who you ma y ha ve hea rd of- Jeff B a nd
Tim Y . . .Tim :"You wa nna go down a nd see
NEGATIVE TREND?"/ Jeff :"Who else is
pla ying?"/ Tim:"AVENGERS, MUTANTS,
OFFS, CRIME, SCREAMERS"/ Jeff:"Na w,
there's a Perry M a sen

re-run on I
ha ven't seen
. You goin' Tim?"/
Tim :"Ma ybe
. .or ma ybe I'll just do my
la undry" . OK, so wha t if we were in the
wrong pla ce a t the right time
. . .so wha t if
we would ha ve given our collective left
nuts to see some of those legends. .
.the
fa ct rema ins we could console ourselves
with these little sla bs of pla stic tha t we
somehow fondled like they were gla sses of
Gha ndi's urine. .
.these discs were somehow
specia l . .
.we knew not why. . .we
documented our love for these precious
ma mmy's in our own ra g. . .a s they
tra versed the turnta ble they were written
a bout/ listened to/ ca me upon/ etc . . .the
7" piles grew la rger a t a la rming
ra tes . . .the feeling tha t you somehow ha d
this hidden knowledge tha t nobody else
ha d a bout this incredibly vibra nt
subculture . . .a s time pa ssed the bug
ma nifested itself into midtown USAin the
person of the FIX. . .a nd we sha nt forget
the NECROS. . .these ca ts were just young
sna ppers, but they ca n't deny for a
minute to whom they owe their debt of
inspira tion
Certa inly the "movement" a s a whole
rema ins a cyclica l phenomenon, but ye olde
collector ma rches into the a byss of
gra tifica tion a nd futility--buying/ tra ding/
a na lysing wishes revolving a round a lust
for obscure, fa celess sla bs of
pla stic--stupid? Well there is a lwa ys duck
decoys/hummell figurines, or posta ge
sta mps . Hey, get the gist of wha t I'm
sa ying? so listed below will not be a
universa l

guide

to

collecting
punkora ma --everyone's views differ
grea tly . These a re simply suggestions from
a geria tric, vinyl-grubbing ex-5th gra de
MONITOR
school tea cher cum singer . Or, sha ll we
just sa y they work for me.
#1 ) Collect wha t you like, not wha t is
"ra re" simply for the sa ke of ra rity . The
guy who rea lly wa nts tha t red vinyl
POLICE record ga thering dust in your
closet ha s tha t Ja pa nese SHAM 69 single
you thought you'd never find . If you a re
a dick a bout keeping something, a
potentia l tra der ha s no option but to dick
you ba ck.
#2)
Decide wha t pa ra meters you wa nt to
a ffix to your collection . Suddenly deciding
you wa nt everything the DAMNED ever
relea sed will ha ve you climbing the wa lls.
My undying love for ABBAha s me in this
condition . Budget limita tions a re certa inly
a nother considera tion. #3) How fa r "into" a
ba nd you wa nt to go is yet a nother via ble
concern . Every pressing from every
country,

dj

copies,

a ceta tes,

test
pressings, mispresses, va ria tions in
sleeves, ca n litera lly ha ve you looking for
8-1 0 copies of one record. For insta nce,
GENERATION X's "King Rocker" -- 4
different sleeves on different color vinyl,
a nd a lso issued on those 4 different
sleeves on bla ck . Then a ga in it wa s
relea sed a s GEN X on clea r a nd bla ck,
relea sed in Ja pa n on yet a nother sleeve.
The list goes on a nd on.
#4) As fa r a s wha t a record is worth, tha t
is a ll rela tive. There a re ba llpa rk figures
for a pa rticula r record, but it is rea lly
a rbitra ry wha t a la te 70 '
s/ea rly 80's indie
is worth . Much in the wa y the Germa ns
drove the 60's obscurities sky high, given
a few yea rs these discs (or some of them)
will skyrocket in va lue a s wa ves of
interest ebb a nd flow. Occa ssiona lly, I get
frustra ted a t not ha ving certa in records,
a nd bid outra geous prices to get them
.
Bad Brains
1 ,-f
This is essentia lly a
bonehea d move, a s it
only ra ises the price of wha t everyone else
must pa y . If the record is worth $20 to
you, pa y it. ..but. ..
#5)
Odds a re, most of wha t you a re
sea rching for, believe it or not, is still
lurking in record stores from Topeka to
Tula ne, from Pittsburgh to Pa ra mus, from
Ka tma ndu to Ka la ma zoo. Some da ring
record buyer went hea vy on the stuff in
the la te 70's, then rea lized the rubes
weren't gonna bite down on it--only to
relega te it to boxes in the ba ck . Yes,
there it still lies undoubtedly . Me a nd my
ma tes ha ve uncovered such virgin shops in
such unlikely pla ces like Rochester, NY
a nd Pittsburgh, PA. Apa rticula r la zy
a fternoon of shopping a t a n out-of-the-wa y
shop ca lled Jim's Records where my friend
D .S. a nd I discovered a nd went into a
feeding frenzy, netting betwixt us 1 1 0
cla ssics a nd oddities for 2 bux a shot. So,
yes folks, when your mom a nd da d dra g
you to Aunt Bertha 's in Tupelo, snea k off,
scrounge the yellow pa ges for "Big Al's
Record Emporium" or wha tever na me is
a ppropo, a nd sta rt digging! You'll be
a ma zed wha t you ca n a ma ss in this
ma nner-(footnote-Tim Y, the ed in this
here ra g, recently found the first FIX
record for 50t-now a in't tha t somethin'?).
#6) It's up to you, but a dding ridiculously
ra re items to your list is usua lly pointless.
For insta nce, the MISFITS' "TV Ca sua lity"
45 wa s ma de in a slightly limited edition--
5 -- count 'em -- 5. The NECROS first EP
with the rejected sleeve--there a re 6
(commonly referred to a s the "Sex Pistols
sleeve"). Then a ga in, ma ybe you'll run
into some ja ded fool tha t turns onto ja zz
a nd wa nts to unloa d his ra rities.
So, the bottom line kiddies is--keep your
eyes peeled--don't be a n a sshole--don't let
fools rip you off. Collecting these ba d
boys is grea t fun--wha t other collecta ble
pla ys tunea ge! I mea n, rea lly now. So, if
the ga ng a t this ra g a llows a la st minute
plug, a ll you interna tiona l or loca l ca ts
who wa nna fea st your eyeba lls on the shit
I'm looking for, I'll gla dly send ya my
wa nt list in excha nge for yours.
Tesco Vee/Box 25305/ Wa sh, DC 20007.
Editor's note : you ma y a s well do the sa me
for me a nd Jeff.

Tim
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Personalities
MIMS
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GRUN DY
BIG TIME
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PENNSY L Vf} N IA
PHILADELPHIA-The Community Educa tion
Center is definitely una va ila ble for gigs,
due to a n a sshole's la wsuit. Lenny is the
one gig orga nizer from LCD who will
continue to ca rry the torch. Christia n ha s
become the new ba ss pla yer for SADISTIC
EXPLOITS (who a re working on a n LP),
a nd Donna feels rea dy for retirement.
Lenny a nd co
. ca n still be conta cted for
gigs a t (609)931 -7828.
After a couple of yea rs of
non-existence, DECONTROLha s re-united.
This grea t ba nd, who fea ture "Philly Cops
(Lea ve Me Alone)" a mong ma ny others, will
pla n their return gig in July
. The
HEATHENS a re a lso together a ga in a nd
working in the studio. The BLUNDER
BOYS a lso pla n to regroup a fter a long
a bsence, but need a new voca list to
repla ce Edge (now a hubby a nd da ddy).
KREMLIN KORPS a re now disba nded, but
still pla n to relea se their 4-song 7" EP
ca lled Moscow's Revenge, on Speed Of
Sound Records . Also on SOS Records is
F.O.D.'s

Love

Songs

EP,

fea turing
"Powerloa d".
McRAD ha s gotten tremendous response
for their Domina nt Forces EP
Voca list Etha n Ja rvis ha s now depa rted,
a nd is repla ced by Da ve Wynter . Some
ex-KREMLIN KORPS members a nd others
ha ve put out a new zine ca lled Unknown
Crime, whose first issue, in my opinion, is
rea lly good. The a ddress is: c/o Todd
Cote/ 81 4 So . 9th St/ Phila PA1 91 47--$1
per issue. Sorry, there's no na tiona lly
syndica ted comix in this one
. Ron
Tha tcher/ P.O
. Box 263/ Ma ple Sha de NJ
08052.
P.S. New York promoter Pa ul Sta rk, who
wa s the subject of Lenny's "Our Wa r"
sta tement la st issue, fell out of the picture
for a while. For some rea son, there wa s
very little support for his shows, even
when big ba nds pla yed for him . Word ha s
it tha t he is now working on shows in
Atla nta a nd Pittsburgh . He is expected to
try NY a nd Philly a ga in . Sorry, but no
one is going to get much support when
trying to monopolize Philly shows (no
ma tter wha t ba nds you get).
MOfc
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S BEEF & BREW , 5

HAMILTONIt
NTOWN PM
The Lehigh Va lley, home of suburba n
bores, la id-off steel workers, a nd
frustra ted housewives (I wish-Eric). And
ow, the unproud home of a truly fa bulous
punk/ha rdcore scene.
Report by Eric Morbid a nd Da ve Clewell
EM : Lehigh Va lley's been ha ppenin' la tely,
huh Da ve?
DC: Yea h I guess, but the la st show
pissed me off though . ..cuz it wa s a
benefit for Sped, our only zine, a nd
ha rdly a nyone showed up!
EM
: Yea h, this issue is gonna be dela yed
beca use of those it wa s intended to help
out (loca l scene).
DC: Plus those a ssholes who wa nted to get
in free.
EM : There's a
lot of ba nds a nd it's a sma ll
scene, so a lmost everyone's involved in
something . .be it a ba nd or ra dio. There's
so ma ny ra dio shows on the college
sta tions now (Muhlenburg a nd Lehigh),
but it gets boring hea ring MINOR THREAT
a nd the D.K.'S six times a da y.
DC : They're (the ra dio) the hea rt of our
scene
. Pa ul (from the RUSSIAN
MEATSQUATS) ha s the best one
. Oh yea h,
a ll ba nds send stuff to him for a iring.
EM : Lou from the COMPLAINTS show is
the a pex of epicuria n ta ste. Three fuckin'
hours of '77 nosta lgia ! Let's ta lk a bout our
pet loca ls, Da ve.
DC : OK, your ba nd, MORBID AFFAIR,
ummm.. .Pretty cool 'ha te edge' ba nd . I
like your song "Army Life" . They ha ve
their shit together, except Spa ndex Jim.
EM : We're ending now tha t we ga ve Jim
the boot. And Jon's gonna move to NY.
So, me a nd Ma tt a re gonna sta rt a new.
Wha t do you think of M.F.C.?
DC : They're tight a nd everything, but
they don't ha ve too much to sa y . "Stop
Ska te Ha ra ssment" is their best'song.
EM : They're a ska te ba nd . Too ma ny
cliches! Wha t a bout CONSTRAINT?
at theStarr Capital

DC : Werip!!
Sa n Fra ncisco, CAJul' 1 4 & 1 9 EM: They do! And hea vily!
DemocraticCon . enoon neek

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Rock Auinv Reacmn outside
P hiladelphia soon, huh?
LlmconeCenter

DC: Yeah, in July with RED SCARE. I

Monte Rio, CA

Juh 21 ca n't wa it!

Bohemian Grose
prows!
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EM: TheValley's best band-CONSTRAINT!
dronepia\ round nt . -lntenc
*What about AMERICAN DREAM? Ithink
most rich anJ pmrernt/1

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ock Aga inst Rea ga n Sa nta Cruz . CA

luh 26 first HC record!

P
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Sun Loren:o Pa rk

*DC: I think they sound cool

. Their ba ss
Ca na l St. Sta tion Sa n Diego. CA

August 3 pla yer ga ve us a ride home from a show

N} \1 1 001 3

Los Angeles. CA

August

la st yea r, remember?
1 21 21 533-5028

0/snipe( protest

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: Yea h, he dropped me off in downtown
St,n i a tte t. S/a rrh ro 1 k l r
*Bethlehem only! But I guess he is nea to.
1hur P ark
DC: He is quite pea chy! !
Phoenix, AZ

Aug
. 8 EM: Now for the ba nd we were both in,
those sexy love monkeys, YOUTHFUL
Albuq uerq ue, \M Aug
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gonna try a ga in
.
DC: SKANK'N'FRANK, THE VALIUM BOY!
EM : They ha ven't sent out a ll the demos:
yet, so if you're still wa iting, bitch a t
Bria n,

not

me!

The

RUSSIAN

MEATSQUATS rule!
DC: They've got to get their shit
together! EM : I love Pa ul's sister . I ga ve
her a rose from the gra veya rd a s a token
of my undying a dolescent lust! Pa ul's mom
rules too. She ga ve me a ride a ll the wa y
to the Trench a fter Pa ul's ra dio show!
DC: I ga ve Pa ul's brother, Chunk, a
blistering tit squeeze. Tha t 1 2 yea r old
nubile! Hey, guess whose on the phone?
Pa ul is!
EM : I s Sue on the phone too? Tell Sue to j
ha ng the fuck up! um . ..Iet's ta lk a bout
ZERO FACTOR.
DC: They're rea lly good, but I don't like
the fa ke brit a ccents.
EM : They're a nother '77 'ha te edge' ba nd .
They're grea t!

The whole town of

Cattasaq ua is living in 1977! It's great!

DC : Let's talk about the scene's start .

Everything started last year when Y DI,
AMERICAN DREAM, FINAL CONFLICT, and
LITTLE GENTLEMEN pla yed here .

EM : Yea h, the Beneficia l show.

DC: If it wa sn't for us minors, there

would be no shows. Everyone is under 21 .
a lmost.
EM
: Fuck, everyone's ha rdly 1 6 a round
here. Ha lf the scene gra dua ted yesterda y.
Congra ts to Jon, Aileen, Sid, Mike Ka ine,
Ma rty, Andy- Tomm, Brent, (Ken, did you*
gra dua te?).
DC: Any touring ba nds ca ll me a t:
(21 5)866- 6484 . This pla ce rules! Hey, if
your scene is dying or non-existent,
DON'TGIVE UP! ! ! Beca use we never did
a nd now it's. . .
EM : Now it's COOLMONN! Well, bye for*
mow cuz we're gonna go to Subs And Stuff
(where the L.V
. scene ea ts) for some fun*
times . By the wa y, I'm 1 6 a nd Da ve is 1 7.
Addresses :

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Northa mpton PA1 8067
YOUTHFULAGRESSION/ Guy/ 727 Pea rl:
St/ Ea ston PA1 8042
M.F.C./Ska te Zine/ Ken Rd #1 / Young's:
hill Box 201 -A/ Ea ston PA1 8042

DC: They were a lright. But Guy decided

to leave, I guess . Now he's starting a
band called NO ALTERNATIVE with*
ex- JUVENILE FRUSTRATION member Allan
Kish.
Dave/ CONSTRAINT/ 3 18 E Rasberry St/
Dallas, TX

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comes hordes of new ba nds, kids, a nd
hopefully, new pla ces to pla y . The new
ba nds in town a re covering a va st musica l
ra nge from pop to HM to noise
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(look it up), fea turing former members of
MINOR THREAT, DEADLINE, a nd
NEGATIVE APPROACH a re more in the pop
vein (a la R
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musica l a ccomplishments . They'll be ma king
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TOMMY KEENE. .
.HR (the ba nd), na tura lly
fea turing ex-BAD BRAINS singer of the
sa me na me, a re supposed to be a s fa st &
furious a s sa id BB were. They've pla yed
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.GANG OF INTELLECTUALS,
presently undergoing a na me cha nge, a nd
PUDWAK a re a bit on the noisier side of
punk (you know, squea ky guita rs a nd lots
of feedba ck)
. . .MALIFICE a nd STEEL
KNICKERS a re the newest meta l/punk
ba nds, though SK's guita rist recently went
ba ck to Pola nd so their future is
unknown . . .And la st but not lea st, is
GREY MATTER, perha ps the best new
ba nd to emerge
. Though the ba nd ha s
a ctua lly been a round for a while, they've
just sta rted pla ying out since the a ddition
of ex-IRON CROSS guita rist Ma rk on
rhythm guita r (joining ex-IC drummer
Da nte). They ha ve a kind of ha rd fuzztone
sound w/a psychedelic influence in there
somewhere
. Kinda reminded me a bit of the
NOMADS from Sweden.
SCREAM ha ve recorded a 5-song demo
which should be finding its wa y onto vinyl
soon
. They've a lso a dded a second
guita rist who ma kes the ba nd sound twice
a s powerful. .
.9353 (fea turing ex-DOUBLE
guita rist Ja son) ha ve recorded a nd
should be relea sing a n EP soon . ..
MEATMEN ha ve recorded 1 6-tra ck for their
follow-up to Dutch Hercules. . . BLOODY
MANNEQUIN ORCHESTRAha ve relea sed a
1 2" EP, but will be brea king up
shortly . . .HATE FROM IGNORANCE ha s
broken up
.. .BLACK MARKETBABY a re
looking for a new ba ss pla yer since theirs
quit to pla y guita r in IRON
CROSS. .
.GOVERNMENTISSUE ha ve yet
a nother ba ssist. Sta y tuned to see who
repla ces him next week .. .Despite rumors
to the contra ry, SECOND WIND ha s not
broken up, but a re looking for a new
guita rist.
Founta in Of Youth ha s a CRIPPLED
PILGRIMS record due a ny da y now, but no
word on the Bouncing Ba bies compila tion
LP
. MARGINALMAN a re in the midst of a
5 week na tionwide tour . . .G.l. will be
doing a n Ea st/Midwest tour soon.
As fa r a s the club scene goes, it's
pretty much rented ha lls & one-shot dea ls.
The
9 :30 Club ha s pretty much turned a
dea f ea r towa rds shows on a somewha t
regula r ba sis
. The Wilson Center is a n
occa siona l possibility
. King Kong's, a n
orienta l resta ura nt a cross the city line in
Prince George's County (whose cops a re
notorious for ra cism & ha ra ssment), ha s
been booking shows for a while, but
people recently frea ked out a t a
SCREAM/G. I
. show when a bout 200 kids
showed up (most of whom got kicked out
by a n overzea lous undercover cop--
drinking a ge in MD is 20). Their situa tion
is still unknown . The Newton Thea ter in
NE D.C. ha s been ha ving shows a lmost
weekly . The pla ce is enormous & if they
ca n get a good sound system in there, it
could be the best pla ce in town to pla y.
There a re a couple of decent ra dio
sta tions in town . WMUC-FM, out of the
Univ. of Ma ryla nd, ha s a very libera l
forma t. Trouble is, you ca n't pick it up
more tha n a couple of feet pa st ca mpus.
WHFS-FM, out of Anna polis, is D.C.'s
semi-commercia l new wa ve sta tion . The
best show is Mitch Pa rker's (ex-Ta rget
Video, G.I., etc) Sunda y "4-6 Sa ndwich
Mix", which fea tures occa siona l HC, a s will
Milo's Sa turda y a fternoon show . WJHU out
of Ba ltimore is increa sing wa tta ge & should
be hitting D.C.*shortly.
Here a re a couple of a ddresses for
ba nds trying to set up shows in the D
.C.
a rea . Plea se write or send ta pes: Rich
Moore/ P.O. Box 25054/ Wa sh DC 20007, or
Nike Chicks (a lso a n a ll-girl ba nd) / 1 2207
Da lewood Dr/ Whea ton MD 20902.
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from the south west of Engla nd . Most of
n the previous UK reports ha ve been from
n up north (which I'm not criticising, by the
n wa y), so here's wha t's going on in the
n a gricultura l South West of 'Airstrip
One'. . .err. . .1 mea n the UK! (See ma p for
a rea covered)

My loca l scene ba sica lly consists of ba nds

from Dorchester, Weymouth, a nd
Bournemouth, the la tter being where
virtua lly a ll our gigs ta ke pla ce
. Ba nds
with vinyl out a re BUTCHER - "On the
n
Ground" 7", "Sta nd a nd Fight" 7" ; they
n ha ve a n ea rly UK punk sound . SELF
n ABUSE - "Soldier" ep; a melodic
n SLF/CHRON GEN type sound. THE MAD
n ARE SANE- a cut on the "Who? Wha t?
Why?. . ." comp ;

their music is often

~
compa red to CRASS. Ba nds with ca ssettes
a va ila ble a re : CONFESSION OF SINIa grea t

live ba nd whose music is a wa rped mixture

n of 60s punk, STOOGES, BIRTHDAY
PARTY, ha ve a studio ta pe a va ila ble.
ATROX is the ba nd tha t I sing for ; we
n ha ve a n 1 1 tra ck studio ta pe out ca lled
n "Atrox - HAGAR the Oxide!" which ha s
n been likened to HAGAR THE WOMB,
n AGENTORANGE (US) a nd the TV
n PERSONALITIES, but decide for
n yourselves! THE MAD ARE SANE a lso ha ve
~ a studio ta pe out to complement their Ip
tra ck . Other loca l ba nds a re: MADMASS,
formerly ADMASS who ha d a tra ck on the
X-centric Noise "Ra w Wa r" ta pe,
PARASITES, IDIOM TRIBE, HELIUS,
GENETIC MALFUNCTION (now split, I
think), CONSPIRACY, MANIC (a lso split, I
think), DISMEMBERED, ANATHEMA,
SATANS CHILDREN, who a re Dprset's only
n thra shers - DISORDER style, a nd the
n infa mous (!) DISGUSTING PUKEY
n SCARVES whose origina l cla im to fa me wa s
n tha t they ha d 30 members a nd used
instruments such a s a monkey wrench a nd
~ a superma rket trolley to ma ke them,
:litera lly,

"completely

tuneless,
structureless noise"! I checked them out
live, though, a nd they were only a
4-piece, used conventiona l instruments,
a nd pla yed ga ra gey medium pa ced punk!
Moving further a wa y from South & Ea st
n Dorset, more loca lised scenes a nd ba nds
a ppea r . From North Devon come the CULT
n MANIAX who a re ra pidly getting more a nd
n more Ra tiona l popula rity . They've relea sed !N
three 7"ers a nd a n LP , a nd ha ve a n
n impending ep on X- centric Noise . The
n
SUBHUMANS a re proba bly one of the five
DF CCTT~T
most popula r UK punk ba nds toda y . They
CON1 E&SIO
come from Worminster, which is where the
A-HEADS, who ha ve two eps out, a nd
ORGANISED CHAOS (tra cks on "Wessex
n '82" ep a nd "Riotus Assembly" Ip) ha il
from. From Sa lisbury come LASTORDERS.
S SUBURBAN FILTH, a tota lly cha otic thra sh
n ba nd, come from Southha mpton . The Isle
n of Wight is the home of URGHH! Others
n from the South West a re : STRIKNENE,
BREAKOUT(tra ck on "Wet Drea ms" Ip),

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WRECK OF THE HESSBRUSS, a nd proba bly

ma ny more tha t I don't know of. Loca l

~.nla r
~ zines I, know of a re Menta lly Unsta ble ~J~~
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Da ma ged, a nd Never Surrender . On a 1 ' /f//% y/'77
n more na tiona l note, here a re some ba nds,
n some of which I've hea rd a nd some not,

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who deserve a mention for one rea son or
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Slower ba nds include
: ALLEGIANCE TO
n
NO- ONE, a mixture of fa st HC -
n
bordering on thra sh - a nd more tra ditiona l
n
punk, COLD DANCE, a nd ea rly
m
BANSHEES-type ba nd who ha ve a very
a tmospheric ep out on X-centric Noise
(tha t na me keeps cropping up!)
. Also on
tha t la bel in the nea r future, will be a n ep
by Shesk
'
s ba nd QUELDOMMAGE who n
a ppa rently sound like a cross between PIL,
n
CURE, a nd JOY DIVISION. TOXIC SHOCK
n
a re a two- piece, ba ss, sa x, a nd voca ls
n
ensemble
. Their sound is tota lly origina l
due to this, a nd sounds very ja zzy
.
Lyrica lly they ta ckle subjects (mostly
sexism) in a n interesting a nd origina l
ma nner too
. They a re one of only two a ll-

girl ba nds within the UK scene tha t I

n
know of, the other bing thee
ICONOCLASTS
. The INCABABIES ha ve a
strong BIRTHDAY PARTY feel a bout them
a nd ha ve some excellent dera nged vinyl!
out! ROOM 1 01 a re difficult to describe
.
Though

not

fa lling

into

the n
.a hem . . ."punk ca tegory", their melodic,
ha rd power-pop a ppea ls to the more
broa dminded .

Musica lly,

PERSONAL
COLUMN a re fa r from punk, but the lyrics
a re excellent, dea ling with ra cism,
vivisection, secret government files, etc .,
in a highly a wa re, subtle, a nd sca thing
ma nner . In short, the punk conscience put.
to unpretentios "pop" music . FLOWERS IN
THE DUSTBIN a re likely to be
misinterpreted a s pretentious "positive n
punk" 'a la SEX GANG CHILDREN due to!
their interesting, slow, innova tive style,:
which would be unfa ir . Lyrica lly, they rise
a bove the dea th/tomb/gore gumbies with
some well -written releva nt . Cha z/26 Long
Street/Cerne Abba s/Dorset DT2 7JF UK/
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a nother (or, in ta ct, per a ps, don't even
deserve a mention a t a ll!) THE FITS ha ve
suprised ma ny people by moving from the
CRASS owned Corpus Christi la bel to
PETER AND THE TESTTUBE BABIE's
la bel, Tra pper Records. Good on them for
proving Bushell's Cra ss vs . Oi mumblings
to be cra p in such a bla ta nt wa y! Not tha t
it needed proving . The XPOZEZ who ha ve
written some superb melodic ma teria l since
their la st, disa ppointing, vinyl outing,
ha ve just completed a 5/6 week tour of
Europe, ta king in Fra nce, Germa ny,
Belgium, Yugosla via a nd more a long the
wa y. Tha t once excellent pop-punk ba nd
THE ADICTS, ha ve cha nged their na me
to ADX a nd ha ve signed up with a ma jor
la bel, dropping their punk sound for a
more commercia lly via ble one . Hmm! Thra sh
ba nds a re still low in number over here
a lthough more a re forming . Some of the
lesser known ones a re RANCID, LEGION
OF PARASITES (one of my fa ves - 1 2" ep
out soon on FightBa ck), STAGNENTERA,
DECEASED, DEFORMED, INSOMNIA,
ABORTED, RAW NOISE (Ipswich - get in
touch), SEATS OF PISS (a tota lly looney
a nd unfortuna tely sexist ba nd),
ONSLAUGHTfrom Bristol - not the ba nd
with the ep out, a lthough they a re
pla nning to relea se one a nd deva sta ting
it'll be, too, a nd fina lly GENOCIDE
ASSOCIATION who a re widely a ccla imed to
be UK's fa stest. By the wa y, Dig might
just ha ve something to do with GENOCIDE
ASSOCIATION!!!
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Addresses : BUTCHER/ Rob/ 1 2 Ma clea n n

A~G

Rd/ West Howe/ Bournemouth/ Dorset; n

AN't UK.. .
SELF ABUSE! 33 Stourcroft Dr! n
Christchurch/ Bournemouth/ Dorset.. .MAD n
ARE SANE/ 1 Beech Ave/ Southbourne/ n
Bournemouth/ Dorset
. . .CONFESSION OF
SIN/

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Ga rla nd

Rd/

Poole!
Dorset.. .ATROX/ Alex/ 1 5 Grea t Western
Rd/ Dorchester/ Dorset (or c/o me,
Cha z
. . .CULTMANIAX/ Big All 1 1 .
Crockers Ct/ Ta ddiport/ Torrington/ N
n
Devon . ..SUBHUMANS/ Dick/ 2 Victoria n
Terr/ Melksha m/ Wilts . . .AHEADS/ Mel/ 23n
Vica ra ge St/ Wa rminster/ Wilts
. n
Zines : Menta lly Unsta ble/ sa me a ddress of .
ATROX or Andy Thorne/ 30 Prospect Rd/ a
Dorchester/ Dorset
. . .Da ma ged/ Andy/ 4
Cologne

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Severa l yea rs a go the British
*government a greed to the siting of 1 60
II
ground-la unched America n Cruise missiles
Y on British soil
. Na tura lly opposition ha s
.
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been strong
. For three yea rs the Women's
I)
Pea ce Ca mp a t Greenha m Common (one of
the two Cruise ba ses) ha s been consta ntly
Y in the news in their a ttempts to stop the
T
Cruise progra mme a nd there ha ve been
demonstra tions a nd a ctions a ll over the
Y country. However, the Cruise issue ha s
T
served a s a ca ta lyst to increa se a wa reness
of the presence of the America n milita ry in
s
this country a nd to expose the horrific
risk tha t this presence ha s crea ted. It is
now known tha t there a re a t lea st 1 35
known US milita ry esta blishments in this
country (if housing a nnexes for US
personnel a re included, this figure is
Y nea rer 1 60)
. These ba ses ma ke the British
TIsles a prime nuclea r ta rget in a n
Ea st/West conflict whether Brita in is
involved or not.
The Second World Wa r crea ted strong
II
ties between the US a nd British
governments lea ving Brita in in debt to the
*America ns, a situa tion which the US Air
II
Force comma nders were ea sily a ble to
ca pita lise upon . Consequently the US Air
4' Force returned to Brita in in 1 948 a nd by
1 1
II 1 950 the growing number of US a irba ses in
ea stern Engla nd ha d become a n importa nt
* position in America n milita ry stra tegy - a t
the time there wa s nowhere else from
which the USAcould mount a full nuclea r
* a tta ck a ga inst the USSR
. The uK ha d
1 1
ra pidly become a forwa rd strike ba se for
Y the US wa r ma chine to be (a b)used a t
Ttheir whim
. Decla ssified US stra tegic wa r
1 1
pla ns of the time ma de it clea r tha t the US
Y Stra tegic Air Comma nd rega rded the UK a s
Tnothing more tha n a tempora ry expenda ble
*months'
a sset from which, in times of conflict, they
could expect between 30 da ys' a nd six
Tmonths' use
. From then on the presence of
the merica n a irba ses put Brita in firmly in
the nuclea r front line a nd ma de it a prime
nuclea r ta rget. Even Winston Churchill
a dmitted the gra ve risk - "We must not
forget tha t by crea ting the America n
a tomic ba se in Ea st Anglia , we ha ve ma de
ourselves the ta rget a nd perha ps the
bulls-eye of a Soviet a tta ck ."
Since then America n milita ry power
ha s grown uncontrolla bly, much of it in
secrecy .

Ministry

of

Defense
representa tives ha ve frequently been
una wa re of the pla ns a nd a ctivities of the
occupying US forces a nd even una wa re of
the existence of some of the
esta blishments . There a re now a t lea st 1 35
US milita ry ba ses in Brita in ra nging from
sma ll office complexes to giga ntic a tom
bomber ba ses. More a re pla nned a nd more
British milita ry fa cilities will be ha nded
over to the US.
British control over the US ba ses ha s
been pra ctica lly non-existent a nd it is
unlikely tha t the UK government would
ever be consulted if the US decided to
la unch a strike force from here. Also there
ha ve been a ccidents . On June 3, fa lse wa r
a lerts were sent out from North America n
a ir defense
. The ba se a t Fa irford wa s
a lerted but a fterwa rds the Ministry of
Defense sa id tha t only the pla nes' engines
were sta rted, they did not ta ke off.
However ma ny Fa irford villa gers wa tched
the pla nes ta ke off in ra pid succession,
a nd when they telephoned the ba se to see
wha t wa s ha ppening they received only a
recorded messa ge sa ying, "It's a n
emergency . . ." So fa r such a ccidents ha ve
been ha rmless but perha ps one da y ...
Brita in ha s therefore become a nother
pa wn in the ga mes between USAa nd USSR
milita ry lea ders. F-1 1 1 bombers from
La kenhea th a nd Upper Heyford a irba ses
a re now perma nently nuclea r a rmed a s a re
the Poseidon subma rines opera ting from
Holy Loch in Scotla nd . The la test a rriva l
The Unsinkable II
Aircraft C arrier I
American Military Power in B r?tain
legend
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of ground-la unched Cruise missiles ca n

only be a nother na il in our coffin.
However, these a re not a ll - the tota
list is very frightening indeed
: 1 50 nuclea r
bombers / 1 0 Poseidon ba llistic missile
subma rines 1 1 60 Poseidon missiles / 1 60
ground-la unched Cruise missiles / over 200
fighter, tra nsport a nd refueling a ircra ft /
up to 24 spy pla nes / 8 US Airforce ma in
opera ting ba ses / 7 hea dqua rters,
a dministra tion, comma nd control centers /
5 intelligence centers / 2 communica tion
centers / 5 known nuclea r wea pon stores
(a nd proba bly more tha t a re kept secret) /
7 tra nsporta tion termina ls / 1 0 jointly
controlled a ircra ft wea pons ra nges / 1 4
contingency milita ry hospita ls / 4 a irborne
comma nd posts / 3,000 personnel / 30
deta ched housing a nnexes / 35 minor or
reserve ba ses (to be used by hundreds
more nuclea r bombers in wa rtime) / 23
communica tions sta tions / 21 stores a nd
depots / plus a la rge CIAsta tion, na va l
fa cilities, ea rly wa rning systems a nd ma ny
visiting

bombers

a nd

other

milita ry
a ircra ft.
It a ll a dds up to one thing - Brita in
is now a n occupied country ; Grea t Brita in
is no more; this la nd is no longer ours.
Ma rga ret Tha tcher, the Prime Minister,
continues her policy of sucking up to the
Rea ga n regime a nd turning this country
into

US

milita ry

sa tellite

'the
unsinka ble a ircra ft ca rrier'
. Consta nt
opposition to the Cruise progra mme (over
60% of the British puhlic a re opposed to
Cruise) ha s been tota lly ignored a nd it
seems likely tha t the new US bina ry nerve
ga s progra mme will induce simila r
enthusia sm from Tha tcher . "The United
Sta tes is contributing a grea t dea l to our
defense a nd we shoulda ll be very
gra teful." Sa dly, this a rgument is a lie.
The occupying US forces a re there only
for offense, a nd for defense of America n
resources ; the US forces contribute in no
wa y to British defense. In fa ct, if
a nything, they impose a burden ; British
RAF fighters ha ve the job of defending the
US ba ses when for the pa st 25 yea rs they
ha ve been considered ina dequa te for
defense of the British ba ses . In a ddition
to this, most of the policing a nd security.
on the ba ses is ca rried out by British
Milita ry Policy a nd Civil Police.
NATO, nuclea r a nd US ba ses ha ve
been in this country now for over 30
yea rs . Opinion polls ha ve shown tha t the
public ha s a lwa ys felt unea se a nd mistrust
towa rds the US forces
. Opposition to the
US ba ses is increa sing - a yea r a go 60% of
people were in fa vor of keeping the ba ses,
now this ha s dropped to only 46%
. Now,
more a nd more sinister truths a bout the
ba ses a re becoming a ppa rent a nd it is
likely tha t opposition will increa se. US
ba ses a re now frequently the site of
demonstra tions, protests, a ctions a nd
sa bota ge a nd these ca n only increa se.
There a re a lso a t lea st 6 perma nent pea ce
ca mps outside US ba ses.
Of course it is not only the UK a t
risk - ma ny Europea n countries ha ve a US
presence a nd it is pla nned to site Cruise
missiles in Belgium, the Netherla nds, West
Germa ny a nd Ita ly . America n Imperia lism is
now a serious threa t to the whole of
Europe.
Perha ps you ma y think tha t wha t goes
on in this sma ll country is of no concern
to you. But remember this - if the USA
becomes involved in a ma jor wa r then it is
likely tha t I a nd most of the British people
will be sla ughtered in the na me of "Truth,
Justice a nd the America n Wa y".
Digger/IQ32/1 2 Fa ulkner Street/Liverpool
L8 7PZ
P.S. : An excellent book a va ila ble is
"The Unsinka ble Aircra ft Ca rrier -
America n Milita ry Power In Brita in" by
Dunca n Ca mpbell; published by Micha el
Joseph .
MRR ha s
been
quite intrigued by this ba nd the APOSTLES
. For insta nce,
the litera ture they've included in a nd on their first four EPs is more
lengthy a nd more intense tha n a lmost a ny ba nd to da te
. As sta ted in our
reviews of their first two relea ses, the a ccompa nying info/opinions/lyrics
seem to be a confusing mixture of extreme right-wing views (a lmost like
cla ssica l fa scist
revolutiona ry ideology), extreme
left-wing views, a nd
extreme a na rchist views (of a direct a ction na ture)
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to write a n a rticle a bout their perspective(s), a nd hopefully the following
letter, a rticle, lyrics, a nd opinions submitted by Andy will help cla rify this
curious a nd committed ba nd
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Hello MRR,
The rea son for this letter being a bout 5
weeks la te is beca use of a few ma jor
ca ta strophes tha t ha ve ha ppened to us
since Februa ry
: two la rge thefts a nd a n
a rson a tta ck in which everything wa s lost.
If this letter ha s a ny bla ck smudges on it,
it'll be beca use not a ll the cha rcoa l ha s
been wiped off
. Da ve ma na ged to sa lva ge a
few things from the fire, but I think our
stickers went, a nd a ll our guita rs a nd
ba nd gea r/equipment went up in smoke a s
well
. the loca l Na tiona l Front a re strong
suspects, but we a re una ble to prove
a nything a t the moment.
During this time since I've been
homeless, a local group of punks (who I'd
only got to know a couple of weeks
earlier) decided to give me a home in their
squat and subsequently they've more or
less adopted me:it's great
. Two of
them-Oily and Martin-made a record with
me
. I don't know what you'll make of it
(Dave hates it and intends to say so on
the fifth EP, along with some heavily pro-
ga y a nd pro-feminist a rticles a nd
litera ture), but here it is a nywa y
. All the
a rticles on the a ctua l cover a re by me, so
plea se don't judge Chris, Da ve, or oily
a nd Ma rtin by the contents of either the
cover or the record, a s the whole project
wa s ea sily one of the most persona l things
I've done so fa r--so much so tha t it could
be self-indulgent in pa rts
. I don't know;
it's too ea rly for me to judge yet.
Anywa y, it's ha lf pa st twelve in the
morning, I'm trying to type by
ca ndlelight, there's no wa ter or electricity
in this new pla ce yet, a nd I'm ha ving a ll
ma nner of trouble trying to see if wha t
I've typed ha s a ctua lly come out! I think
I'll continue this in the morning
. Oh,
before I go, in ca se you're wondering wha t
ha ppened to the third EP, it's just come
out.
Right, it's now a few da ys la ter, a nd I
ca n clea rly see on this bright, sunny
a fternoon
. I ha te hot wea ther . I ha d ha lf a
pot of evo la st night, except it wa sn't
mine
. It wa s Oily's, a nd he ca me ba ck
this morning to find a n empty tin! Myself
a nd AI (tha t's the geezer who drew the
front cover of the EP) finished its
contents a nd I decided tha t 'no more glue'
wa s the a nswer--well, until next time! 01 1 y
ca me ba ck a fter spending a couple of da ys
a t Dig's pla ce, where a ll he pla yed wa s
ta pes of America n a nd Finnish ha rdcore
punk, which mea ns 1 00 mph tuneless,
dia bolica l thra sh
. Honestly, I don't mea n
to sound insulting, but wha t do you see in
.1 1 tha t noise? I mea n, why listen to 50
ba nds pla ying the sa me noise when one
sounds just a s 'good'? Perha ps I'm being
unfa ir? I don't know
. ..
Da ve ha d a word with me yesterda y,
end it seems he's forgiven me for using
he APOSTLES na me to sprea d my
due/views/cra p on vinyl, a lthough his ga y
lib terrors a re still going in print
. Ah
well
. We do the fifth EP soon, a nd it
should ha ve the style/contents of the first
.ne if Da ve a nd Chris ha ve their wa y,
hich they proba bly will!
Unit & Pea ce And Ma rtin
MAXIMU M ROCK 'N' ROLL.
"FU CK THE U SA" The Exploited.
"I'M SO B ORED WITH THE U SA" The Clash.
"NEWYORK" The Sex Pistols.
"WHITE POWER" Skrewdriver.
"THINKING OF THE U SA" Eater.
Race and Nation/Disgrace and Extermination? An article for Maximum R n R by The Apostles is
rather like a chess puzzle for The Cricketter by Danican Philidor . each is interesting and valid,
but neither are necessarily relevent to eachother . For this reason, I' ve chosen a loose, freefor
style that could end up anywhere between Manhatten and Edinburgh, but I suspect it ' ll drop half
way in mid air and disappear under the sea in the Atlantic, to the tune of "Loving Awareness" as
Radio Caroline Yoko Ono's its' way across the radio/sea waves.
Chris calls himself a militant anarchist . He does not eat meat. He dresses a bit like a skinhead.
Dave calls himself Dave. He does not eat meat or anything with animal products in. He dresses
bit like Dave . I call myself Andy. I do not eat meat etc etc (see above) but I wear clothes because
I like the look of them. Others say "Oh, I see he' s turned punk now?" while others say "How can
you where all that leather and studs if you're a vegetarian?" Ah, but I never said I was a veggie.
I don' t eat my boots and my j acket and my trousers, or maybe these self-opinionated, bigotted
oh-so-holy vegetarian-from-the-suburbs types can't understand freedom? Dave has been referred
to as "gay" and "bisexual" and "queer" by lesser mortals
. I have been referred to as a "closet
fascist" (which is absurd because I've never been closetted about my right wing views, although I
don't believe that politics is a topic worth getting upset about anyway) and a "mixed up wanker".
Hello Chantal & chums. . . meanwhile, back on the side of sane, rational people, I return to the
title of this wonderous piece of prose . MaximumRock "n" Roll.
THE APOSTLES ARE NOT A ROCK AND ROLL B AND AND WE DON'T PLAY ROCK AND ROLL.
THE APOSTLES ARE NOT A POLITICAL B AND NOR DO WE PREACH POLITICS (except when
Chris gets carried away and starts plotting to overthrow and blow up everything in sight, though
who can blame him, I mean there's plenty of useless human garbage that needs exterminating -
The Governments of all countries, all monarchies and heirarchies, police, armies etc etc etc).
THE APOSTLES ARE NOT PART OF THE PU NK B AND ANARCHY CIRCU S THANK YOU V,MU C
I detest the recent influx of American television programmes that have recently plagued this land
with their endless Police hero third rate, overacted drama progs, their comedy shows with the
mansions and bi-ig cars and ever overflowing fridges full of pizzas and hamburgers and coffee,
B U T - I detest them because they are a product of a disgusting, decadent society based on greed
and callousness, NOT simply because they are 'American' . This is the difference between us and
The Exploited. they don't differentiate between what is the product of a nations' state and the
disaffected minorities within that nation. I don't believe you like Cop drama series any more than
we do. Perhaps I can see more realism in The Sweeney than Star sky And Hutch, but isn't it all
basically the same programme dressed up differently and with different accents?
Each topic could be dealt with at length and in detail, but I don't wish to take up any more room i
your paper than is necessary . We aren't a particularly well known band and I doubt whether we
are of particular interest to anyone reading M . R . &R. so I'll keep the article brief - I still can't
work out why you wanted us to write one anyway .' Never mind. You ask about The Apostles (sigh).
What can I say? LAB ELS perhaps, that's not a bad place to start. I amnot a XXXX or a ****.
Why do people feel j ustified in defining Dave by his sexual orientation? Why do people believe
they have the right to define me by (what they mistakenly think of as) my 'political' views? Why
should anyone B E a 'punk' or an 'anarchist' or a 'straight' or a 'gay' or a 'black'? Such attitudes
result in a subtle but damaging form of self oppression and they restrict ones freedom of self
expression anyway. That deals, again bi'iefly, with 'labels' . I do not need somebody attempting to
put my whole personality and my complete character into a little box called 'politics' . A person
should be defined by their complete self, not the ideals/beliefs they hold nor yet any little aspect
of their persona
. You don't j udge an orange by its' pips, so one should not j udge or identify or
otherwise define a person by any part of their whole self . The moment you call yourself a this or
a that (feminist/fascist/communist/anarchist/racialist/gay/straight/black/white/etc) you cease
to think of yourself as a complete human being
. I believe strongly that if someone really feels
the need to define themselves by their sexuality or their maternal/paternal roles or their
politics, THEN THEY ARE CLEARLY INSECU RE PEOPLE.
The song titles at the beginning of this diatribe show how freethinking and libertarian punk bands
are . I don't think we should be nice to the U SA. Oh no, much better than that, my belief, and I
think I can safely say this is also Daves' belief, is that we should refute the definition of that
vast plot of land as being "usa"
. Who says that this little island is
"
britain"? Did the Red Indians
call their land The U nited States Of America? Did the Celts call this island England or B ritain?
What right have we, mere fellow animals on this vast planet, to call great slabs of life giving
land names? We attribute animals and other creatures with human characteristics, which is
totally uncalled for and also wildly irrational . We give names to land which does not belong to us.
Animals belong to nature. The Earth belongs to The Earth and the Creator itself. It takes a far
superior, higher force understand the nature of things and name them than us! Does this sound a
bit like some wierd religion to you? Maybe it does. Maybe it is?
You see, if you cease to look on yourselves as being "American", if we cease to regard you as
"American", if we cease to think of ourselves as being "B ritish", then the very roots of racism
are challenged
. How can you hate Americans if there are no Americans but j ust people? Does
this sound a bit idealistic to you? Maybe it does. Maybe it is?
"Do you really believe in Marx? Marx sucks . " (Crass). When B akunin, Neitche, Marx, Engels,
Proudhon, Hitler, Orwell and all those other poxy, hypocritical, intellectual tossers spouted all
their dogmatic, self-opionated crap, it gave rise to a sudden growth in political thinking and, as
a by product, produced the Dadaists and the Nihilists, both of which were movements far more
relevent and healthier than the boring, tedious and vastly inflated demagogs they were reacting
against. Marx does not help us open squats. Orwell does not help us fight court battles. B akunin
does not help us fight political hot-heads hell bent on making the lives of ordinary people as
miserable and as borin
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any degree of clarity my own thoughts on any of themwithout confusing j ust about everyone who
is patient enough to plough through my prose? Never mind, let's get on with it. ..
Anarchist/political bands spend huge amounts of time, money and effort into being as rich and as
famous as the very superstars they claim to detest . The first wave of punk bands in B ritain have.
shown this to be true in a manner which was both obvious and sad. The present climate is
none
too healthy either. Everyone wants to be king radical, they want to receive letters and be the
ones quoted in fanzines, they want to be recognised and they want to be important . Well, I say
'everyone' but I can believe (j ust) that there are maybe a few inspired, caring individuals with
enough compassion and enough integrity to see this farce for the charade it undoubtedly is
. There
are hundreds of bands in (what we shall call) tl U SA. How many of those bands really give two.
brass monkeys' bollocks what they're singing r.nout or how they treat their audiences? How many
anarchist, liberated and radical (what we'll call) B ritish bands care about anything more than the
length of their dreadlocks or the price of smack? Perhaps this is- why I respect Skrewdriver mor
than most 'anarchist' bands, I prefer the lyrics of the latter but I prefer the honesty and the
dedication of the former . Crass are genuine and they have myself and Daves' trust, admiration
and respect and that, to a certain extent, is mutual . I can think of no other bands who are worth
more than a wry smile and a knowing glance at the cash register. Now wait for the cries of
"B lashphemy :-How dare you
:" come from over the hills and far away, both sides of the Atlantic.
Well, let me ask you this:do you really want to have your photographs on fanzines and record
covers? Do you really want people to buy your records and know you by sight in the street? Do
you want to be well known? Do you want lots of people to come to your gigs? Do you believe in
bands and audiences? When you've answered those questions TRU THFU LLY, then ask yourself
whether you are a caring, politically motivated bunch of musicians.
Ah, yes, music, now there's another sore point. (Looks like this isn't going to be so brief after
all) . If we are to believe that 'B ritish' and 'American' punk bands are so individual and so new
and so different then why do 90% of all those bands sound exactly the same as eachother, churning
out safe, contrived noise devoid of melody or rhythm? (Flipper, Husker Du, Chumbawumba and
Antisect are, I suppose, amoung the other I0%u who are successfully attempting to break away
from the clone-a-band contest.) Each band has music (I use the word loosely) in 4/4 time, each
track is fast, each number is short, each number uses vocals, guitar, bass and drums, each
sentiment is anti something or other and there are usually plenty of swear words for street cred.
So, spikey tops and shaven heads, where's your revolution? It's disappeared under a sea of
conformity, that's where
. Why not try doing something original for a change? I'll tell you why -
because if you did something that was different/original/inspired then the public might not like
it, and they might not buy it, and you might not get well known, you might not be accepted, you
might not make any money and you might not be the safe, boring, contrived, derivitive set of
boredom battalions you are at present. Hal Look what happened to Alternative TV, H'm
. Look
what happened to U S when we played live gigs with backing tapes and synthasizers. . . but at least
we retained our dignity and our integrity . People want safe music. Your brothers and sisters
like Abba and B arry Manilow, so you say "Ah, that's safe music - be daring and get into punk."
B ut if anything within your punk circle turns away from the safe narrow roads of restriction and
conformity, you'll probably be the first to say 'sell out' when in fact it is the bands who are
keeping to the nice, safe areas who are giving you all j ust what you want who are the real sell
outs. B ut who cares so long as it's a good fast noise and they all swear and say naughty things
about Reagun and/or Thatcher.?
THE APOSTLES are:
DAVE vocals/guitars by the dozen/bass guitar/tapes etc.
ANDY vocals every now and then.
CHRIS vocals/drums.
We so far have four records out but if you've read this far then you probably won't want them
anyway
; The first two are no longer available and we won't be repressing them either because
that's history and we've got to think ahead, not dream nostalgically about the past. If some
dealer says he's got a copy for 4 or $8 then tell him/her to go stuff it or steal it, because as
Chelsea said. "Collectors items? I don't give a damn. . ." The 3rd and 4th records, both of them
6 track EPs, are available from Rough Trade and Small Wonder - ah, sorry, only the 3rd one is.
The 4th one is only available from Small Wonder as the music press and record shops have, in
their entirety, decided to put a ban on it . Even Small Wonder may discontinue it, I don't know
yet. It seems no-one wishes to handle the record. You see, if you're going to say something that
could be construed as revplutionary or thought provoking then it has to conform to certain confine
or otherwise it gets banned. Free speech anyone?
Punks are generally too conservative to be taken seriously, and this is especially true in both the
U SA and B ritain. There ARE notable exceptions of course, and it is these exceptions who keep
the whole thing alive and kicking. B ut in general, everything these days has become too music
orientated, and this cannot be healthy because it pacifies people and drags them down into a safe
womblike existance. I believe that all gigs and all music should be banned for a month. Imagine
how angry and frustrated punks/freaks would get? There'd be riots after about a week' Music is
dangerous alright, mainly because it detracts from the main issue - and if people really want to
change society then going to endless gigs and getting drunk isn't the best method of doing it . We
want riots and new awareness combined, not hangovers and broken guitar strings. If you really
want anarchy then do something constructive, but if you want to build something more creative
and more genuine than anarchy (which is merely another thread in the tapestry of politics after
all's said and done) then you've got to start learning how to communicate with eachother, and I
don't think mindlessly pogoing to and getting drunk to noise machines made of beer, leather and
a lack of brains is really the way to start doing it. B ut then I'min a band and we've done plenty
of thrash ourselves, so perhaps I should leave The Apostles and go to a mountain somewhere and
be a philosopher? H'm, too boring. Well, if you've read this far (that's if any of this article gets
used for anything other than arse wipe paper) thanks for being patient . Now you can forget what
you've read and go and headbang to Metallica or D. R. I. or something, okay?
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brought you whiskey, ha ggis, kilts a nd
THE EXPLOITED, but this is a serious
scene report, a nd fortuna tely there is
more to punk in Scotla nd tha n THE
EXPLOITED.
Probably the biggest band in Scotland at
the moment is THE ALTERNATIVE from
Dunfermline. Their debut single - " In
Nomine Patri" - was released on Crass
Records and sold over 5 000 copies . At the
end of '83 , most of the band left but
founding member Rodney Relax
(guitar/vocals) has got together a new
line- up, and they've just recorded an
excellent a lbum for Corpus Christi.
Neighboring ba nd THE ACTIVES a re a lso
well esta blished with the relea se of their
"Riot" ep a nd "Kick It Down" Ip on Quiet
Records
LASTRITES
POLITICALASYLUM from Stirling, who
relea sed a 1 5 studio demo "Fresh Ha te
s" la st
yea r , ha ve now relea sed their 2nd studio
demo, which like "Fresh Ha tes" is a va ila ble
for $4 (including a irma il posta ge) from the
a ddress below. Other ba nds with demos
a va ila ble a re THE GURUS, a melodic
meta l-punk from Inverness, RED
BRIGADE, a mid-tempo ba nd from from
Fra serborough, THE ABUSE a nd DIRECT
ACTION from Edingburgh, a nd SOCIETIE'S
VICTIMS from Fife.
Apologies to BLACK FLAG for the moronic
reception they received when they pla yed
Gla sgow . Obviously this is in no wa y a
complete guide to Scottish punk, a nd
a pologies to a ny ba nds we'
ve missed out.
If a nyone wa nts to write, communica te, or
swa p music/litera ture, etc ., plea se write to
us a t the a ddresses below.
Paul
& Ramsey/ Yahoo zine/ 46 W
Chapelton Ave/ (3 earsden, Glasgow/
SCOTLAND
Scotla nd's biggest city,
Gla sgow, is the
home of THE LASTRITES, a fa st
singa long ha rdcore ba nd who've relea sed 2
singles - "Step Down/We Don't Ca re"
(Flicknife) a nd "Fa cism is the Rea ction",
which should be out now . Other ba nds
with records out a re 1 STOFFENCE from
Livingston a nd VALERIE AND THE WEEK
OF WONDERS (a KILLING JOKE cum
DANSE SOCIETY ba nd) from Gla sgow.
EXTERNALMENACE, who relea sed 2
singles on Bea t the System Records, a re
now gigging under the na me STRUCK.
Oi Ba nd THE STRIKE, who ha d tra cks on
the infa mous s 'Stregth Through Ois', comp
ha ve unfortuna tely split but voca list
Fergus is trying to form a new ba nd.
Other skinhea d/Oi groups in Scotla nd
include 01 POLLOI from Edinburgh who
relesed a demo "La st of the Mohica n" in '82
a nd ha ve hopes of relea sing a self fina nced
ep , a nd HERBERTSOUND UK, who ha ve
a lso relea sed a demo.
ADDRESSES
POLITICALASYI,N (Ra msey)
3 Ba lmora l Pla ce
SYIRLING
Scotla nd
FK8 2R5
UK
( 2 studio demo tapes available,
for 4 dollars (airmail), or 2
dollars (s_rface mail) each
.)
01 JOLLOI
c/o John Green
(, .,-o
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XY'X ALTERNATIVE (Rodney)
43 FITPENCRIEFF STREET
DLL+F3 R [LINE
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KY 12
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SOCIETIES VICTIM (Willy)
c/o Alterna tive
(demo out)
VALERIE; A.. : ,
THE WEEK OF +1 . NDERS (Ian)
76 Drumpellier Avenue
Coa tbridge
La na rkshire
Scotla nd
UK
( Too La te/Helpless single)
lO
Ju, o1y or The Nod brigade
meat m u tiny poica of info

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the go

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have dot,o as ral gigs (Looat).
The liac up today 1 . the orig-
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LASTRITES (Ala n)
c/o Cra ig Irela nd (No Visible Sca r zine)
ABUSE ( o: gy)
76 Ca pta ins Drive
Gra cemount
EDINBURGH
Scotla nd
UK
DIRECTA.G.ILN (Pete)
c/o The 'Ma d: Abuse
(demo out)
FANZINES
No Visible Sca r.
c/o Cra ig Irela nd,
1 7 Percy Rd,
Renfrew,
Renfrewehire,
PA4 8AZ
Scotla nd.
Revenge of the Ra ped (Linda )
c/o Alterna tive (see elsewhere).
Jugula r Vein
c/o Andy,
7 Dumgoyne Court,
Airdrie,
La na rkshire,
ML6 6RQ
Pray - locals (19)
Pitt, . - huoet fuitar (19)
luwe_y - Guitar/nano (17)
Tatty - Drumm (17)
bee,+lle the n .,they i olot that
they u not O . .,meth nor fechioth
and that thay ore Juan a punk band mho
believe [hut punk
. not dead.
May hope to he doing a lot more gi-

' r than you bu rgainod fop cu lo-

ok oat for the mental brigade cram
your ur
.. .(We'd be lucky to get buck.
Fiat: -Plcbb).
Influancc0
of the band 000 . .Pl0tole,U1o-
cbargo(Ileavy baby 1),Cr iui O,Hmz
. Ul . vcr
hoer,t of em),und thaire0lve0 .'Ihe demo
ben be obtained from the fulloming addr-
e for the m arty mu or 70p and MAE
band off right . .47 Union o u ,
Fraoa rnurgh, Aberdeenobire, Scot lands
'1'rauke on the demo are no folio 3 . ..
Pao may,NP l o btlnk,orO, Final bac-
iaiun
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u1( hula britaunia .l'he beet tramk
in myvsv being the loot on .,but vhy
not buy it for yourself end decida for
vourou),than, to 1(0.001 .
MRR : WELL, TELLUS WHAT'S YOUR
ACTUALLINE-UP, AND HOW LONG HAVE
YOU BEEN TOGETHER?
MG: The ba nd consists of Iva n (voca ls a nd
guita rs), Diego (Ba ss), a nd Miguel
(drums). We've been together a bout a yea r
a nd a ha lf.
MRR : WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME
FROM 'SLIPS Y SPERMA' TO MG-1 5?
MG : First, the old na me wa sn't in a ccord
with the things we believed in a nd didn't
mea n a nything to us. MG 1 5 mea ns a lot to
us .

Tha t's

the a cronym

for

letha l
a nnihila ting ga ses, the VX. So, we
inverted the roma n numera ls a nd a dded the
MG for 'morta l ga ses' . The ga s comes from
the U.S
., a nd 4 mg ca n kill a ma n . One
kg of this ga s costs only $6
. It's
ca lcula ted tha t with only $1 0,000, one
could destroy the huma n ra ce. So, we
think our da ys a re numbered, a nd tha t the
na me is significa nt.
MRR
: WHAT'S THE SCENE LIKE IN YOUR
AREA?
MG: Fra nkly, not so good.
MRR
: WHATARE THE PROBLEMS THAT
YOU CONSIDER MOSTIMPORTANT?
MG: Obliga tory milita ry service tha t
disperses members of ba nds; the la ck of
coordina tion between ba nds ; la ck of people
who wa nt to record spirited ba nds ; not
enough people involved in the scene to
ma ke gigs successful; a nd hundreds more
problems.
MRR : WHATBANDS, LOCALLY AND
ABROAD, DO YOU LIKE?
MG. From here, no one sa ys a nything tha t
we rela te to--lots of wa nking a nd fa lse
prophets of pea ce who a buse the na me of
pa cifism/environmenta lism
. From a broa d,
we like very much DISCHARGE,
WRETCHED, POISON IDEA, M.D.C., who
a re a ll genuine people in their own wa y.
MRR
: WHAT'S THE MEANING OF YOUR
LYRICS?
MG
: We dea l with police violence, a buses
of power, ma n's misery, the dea th of
innocent beings, wa r . Why? The music is a
representa tion of our idea s
. It's how we
see things.
MRR : WHATDO YOU THINK ABOUT
DRUGS_ ALCOHOL
. VIOLENCE?
MG : Drugs a re a super-business,
semi-lega l. Alcohol is a lega l drug, tha nks
to Big Business. Violence? It begets more
violence . Sometimes in, certa in situa tions, it
is necessa ry to cha nge things. All
together, these things a dd up to mindless
a ggressiveness, ma sking cowa rdliness. It's
sa va gery.
MRR : DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELVES
PACIFISTS OR ANARCHISTS? OR PUNKS?
MG : To us, punk is a commercia l rip-off--
a circus of clothes, fa shion, studs, a nd
nonsensica l violence. But, we a re a ba nd
with idea s, a nd we don't ca ll ourselves
punks . We a re merely guys with clea r
idea s who wa nt to live honestly.
MRR : ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
MG: Yes. We think we'll be a ble to record
soon . Tha t's a _ promise . And, if you'd like
to get in touch with us, plea se write : Iva n
Jullit Na va s/ Apto . 1 64/ Na rja (Ma la ga ) /
SPAIN.
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PUOLUEEN UHRIT, a nd KARKOTUS
; a nd
Juha wa s in THEOBILUS-BAND
. The
KONDOMS style is psycho/ha rdcore, with
influences coming from TK, RATTUS,
DISORDER, CRAMPS, a nd other psycho
ba nds . We don't wa nt to be the 1 35th
DISCHARGE clone
. We wa nt to ma ke our
music in our own
wa y, "psycore"
. There
will be a ca ssette out this summer, a nd a
record to follow . Conta ct
: Juha Ra utonen/
3681 0 Kuhma la hti/ Finla nd.
By Vote Va sko a nd Risto Eronen
First of a ll, I wa nt to correct a mista ke in
my la st scene report. UNICEF does not
ha ve a cut on the Rea lly Fa st compila tion
LP Vol 2
; its BAYONETfrom
Jyva skyla (who've now split up a s 2 of
them a re in the a rmy). And Ja kke of
KAAOS is still singing, not pla ying guita r.
Sorry.
The biggest news is tha t RIISTETYTa re
doing a U.S. tour this summer. It's
orga nized by Chris a nd Da ve of Ba d
Compila tion Ta pes (tha nks a lot!), a nd the
tour will be with RAW POWER of Ita ly.
Plea se go see these ba nds, a s the success
of this tour will determine whether more
Finnish ba nds ca n come in the future.
RIISTETYT's new LP, Ra iska ttu
Tuleva isuus, will come out a t the sa me time
tha t they're in the Sta tes. Its quite
different from their ea rlier recordings,
with more va riety a nd not a s fa st. it
reminds me more of the newer G.B.H. a nd
DISCHARGE sounds. They ha ve a new
ba ssist too, Mickey, the ex-guita rist of
TAMPERE SS
. At the moment, RIISTETYT
a re the most popula r ba nd in Finla nd, a s
they've been gigging a lot.
RATTUS did a Europea n tour, but more
a bout tha t a t a nother time. their LP on
Ra t Ca ge should be out in the U.S. by the
time you rea d this. Also, a n America n
pressing of their WC Ra ja hta a LP will be
out on Mutha .
CNTcomes from Ta mpere, a nd ha s Ma ko
on voca ls (ex-TAMPERE SS), La hti on
guita r (ex-BASTARDS), Stydy on drums
(ex-RIISTETYT), a nd Piise on ba ss
(ex-RIISTETYT). They should be the next
big ba nd to come out of Finla nd . Ha ven't
hea rd them yet, but I'm sure they ca n't be
too ba d.
The sa ddest news is tha t Wa lde, the
drummer of TERVEETKADET, died in
Ja nua ry
. He fell from a ba lcony, a nd wa s
unconscious for 3 da ys before pa ssing on.
Wa lde ha s been repla ced by La ja 's (singer)
brother Tilli . He a lso pla ys drums in
RUTTO, whose second EP is now out.
MASSACRE did a split EP with
SEKAANNUS, a nd a re pla nning a nother one
this summer. You ca n order it stra ight
from the ba nd for $3 (a ddress elsewhere in
a rticle).
The KAAOS LP will be coming out on a
new la bel, Ba ra bba s. The ba nd ha s a new
guita rist, a nd a re pla nning a Europea n
tour for la ter this yea r . Also to come on
Ba ra bba s is a compila tion LP with
TERVEETKADET, KAAOS, VARAUS, etc.
Should be grea t.
All new Propa ga nda records ha ve been
dela yed for a long, long time, a nd ma ny
punks who ha ve ordered them a re getting
a ngry . We hope they'll come out soon . (We
hope so, Heikki).
Well, tha t's enough for this time
. Tha nks
to a ll who've written me, a nd sorry if
you've ha d to wa it for a n a nswer . I'll try
to get to a ll of them, but it's a helluva lot
for one person . Rea d on for Risto's ba nd
reports . Keep the fla g flying.
Vote/ ' P

Tuota nto/

Box

69/

401 01
Jyva skyla / Finla nd.
KONDOMS
We got together in ea rly '84 . The line- up
is Sikko (voca ls), Rellu (guita r), Sorkku
(guita r), La tsi (ba ss), a nd Juha (drums).
La tsi wa s previously in PUNAINEN RISTI,
VIRUS
VIRUS ha s been together for 2 yea rs, a nd
wa s previously na med TAYSTUHO a nd
HALLOWEEN
. Some of the ba nd members
were ea rlier in ASSMEN a nd SECRET. We
ha ve a bout 20 of our own songs, a nd do
some covers
. Our style is horror-inspired
punk, with influences from FUCK-UPS,
METEORS, BACH, DISORDER, TK,
CRAMPS, a nd even the blues (VIRUS ha s
a kind of "Blues Bros .' inspired 'a na rchy'
style . Lyrics ma inly come from horror
films . The ba nd is Andy (ba ss), Mikko
(drums),

Vesku

(guita r),

a nd
RIISTANIEMI

(voca ls).

Conta ct:

Ta pio
Yli-Riista niemi/ 39820 Kihnio/ Finla nd.
POLIISIVALTIO (ex-MUSTARISTI)
It a ll sta rted in the spring of '81
. Jussi
a nd Ka ra were in it from the sta rt, a s
were Va rtsu a nd Ta skinen
. It wa s rea l
noisy, a s we ha d only one a mp a t the
time . Then we got
a regula r pra ctice pla ce
a nd more,
equipment, a nd Sidi repla ced
Va rtsu . Jussi then left the ba nd, a nd then
Ka ra joined
. Then we kicked out Turunen
out (other guita r), ca use he liked hea vy
rock too much
. Then we got kicked out of
our pra ctice pla ce for too much hea vy
drinking, a nd we were pla nning a record
demo but our drummer hurt his a rm
(drunk), so we couldn't do it
. Now we
pra ctice in a bomb shelter
. Our first gig
wa s with a couple of hippie ba nds
. When
we sta rted to pla y, most of the people
went outside
. It wa s rea l cha os (a nd
beer)
. Then we ma de the demo, but it
didn't come out too well
. The line-up is
still the sa me, no gigs, beer is good
. For
demo a nd live ta pe write to
: Ka ri
Mykka nen/ Sa vonka tu 9 A1 6/ 701 00 Kuopio
1 0/ Finla nd .
KLIMAX
KLIMAX were set up in the end of '82.
Two of the guys (Eero a nd Ra ne) got
kicked out shortly a fter forming, We did
our first gig in the summer of '83, but the
new singer left the ba nd too
. Then Timppa
(ba ss) sta rted singing, with Nipe (drums)
a nd Na ka (guita r) continuing on
. All 4
gigs we've
done ha ve gone well with tha t
line-up
. Our style ha s slowed down some,
a nd our lyrics a re mostly a bout the threa t
of wa r a nd other senseless topics
. we did
a very good stupid demo in ea rly '84.
c/o Ka ri Na rhi/ Sa vontie 73-75 B1 9/
761 50
PMK 1 5/ Finla nd .
RUTTO
RUTTO wa s formed in Ma y '81 , a nd the
line- up ha sn't cha nged : Ka na (voca ls),
Pla sky (ba ss), Ma kinen (guita r), a nd Tilli
(drums). They've done 2 7" EPs, both on
La ja 's (TERVEETKADET) la bel, Ikba ls
Records .T.H.E. RUTTO is nowa da ys
considered a seconda ry ba nd for its
members, only to exist for fun . Tilli a nd
Pla sky a re both in TK
. RUTTO is the only
Finnish ba nd with a fema le voca list, a nd
the lyrics ha ndle the da rk side of the
huma n world of idea s. Info a nd records
($3 ea ch)
. Ma kinen/ Ta piola ntie 3/ 9541 0
Tornio/ Finla nd.
MASSACRE
Got together in the summer of
'83 when
NATSI- VIHAsplit up . Pete a nd Ma ke
looked for a ba ssist, but eventua lly Ma ke
took over, a nd we got S .A.O.'s singer to
pla y drums
. Tha t didn't work out, so we
got Sa mi (who a lso pla ys in SEKAANNUS)
to pla y drums. We did a n EP with
SEKAANNUS, a nd a re now looking for our
own drummer, a nd a new singer
. We got
bored with most of our fa st songs a nd
dropped them
. For our EP, send $3 to:
Pete Va isa nen/ 34320 Pa rkkuu/ Finla nd
.
AB ORTI 13
We formed in the autumn of '83 when 4
guys wanted to make noise . We borrowed
equipment and practiced once before our
first gig. The last of our 3 gigs was the
best, but the cops came and stopped the
show. Our songs are about fucking dogs,
anal sex, etc
. Some are funny, some not.
Info:Matti Hekkala/ Kallontie 4 A 8/ 28880
Pori 88/ Finland.
KAUNEUS & ERVEYS
The only punk ba nd in Kokkola
. Got
together in April '83
. At first none of the
members ha d ever pla yed before, so it wa s
noisy a nd others just la ughed a t us. We
did 2 gigs so fa r, but they were
bullshit--only 20 people showed up a nd sa t
in the corner a nd a ppla uded a bit a t the
end. Our style is not typica l ha rdcore,
a nd our new songs sound better tha n the
old ones
. Were on the Belse Bop comp.
TP, a nd on the upcoming La sta comp EP.
Cheers to a ll U.S. ber punks. We hope
someone shoots Ronnie a nd ra pes Na ncy.
Write : M
. Tera nto/ Ka ta ja tie 6/ 6720C
Kokkola 20/ Finla nd.
NU SSIVAT NU NNAT (Fucking Nuns)
Formed in '83 under messed up conditions.
Our first gig was total chaos, everyone
was too drunk, and the sound was
terrible
. There were 700 people at our
second gig, and after that we recorded a
tape which is on B else B op comp tape (c/o
Marko Teranto/ Kataj atie 6/ 67200 Kokkola
20/ Finland)
. Then we started to play
slower, recorded a 3-song demo, and sent
it to Vilenius at Propaganda, but he didn't
like it
. We now sound more like B AU HAU S
than hardcore
. We had a good practice
place, but some idiot nazis came there and
made trouble and we had to leave
. Mikkeli
is Finland's third most violent city, and
many people hate us here. If you send us
a blank tape and money for postage, we'll
send you our demos
. Write:Vennu
Hiltunen/ Vesitorninkatu 4/ 50130 Mikkeli
13/ Finland.
I don't know
if you've heard the other
Tampere band,
POIKKEU STILA, but they
are one of the promising new
bands from
Finland. They are unknown abroad because
they
don't have any records out yet . They
are much
better and more genuine than
many of the other Finnish hardcore
bands,
many of whom are into fashion.
POIKKEU STILA have played 5 gigs in their
ii year history .
They come from a suburb
of Tampere called Hervanta . The
line-up is
Eppu/guitar,

Kaitsu
/vocals,
Himanen/drums, and Kalle/bass
. Their
average age is
only 16, but already
nazi
skins have
targeted them for a lot
of
trouble.
Their early influences
came from the
B ASTARDS
because Eppu's brother Roitsu
used
to be in that band before they broke
up last winter. Most of the
songs are
written by Eppu,
with lyrics about war,
cops, and
violence, and their musical style
is heavily influenced by DISORDER,
CHAOS U K, and DISCHARGE--
fast and
powerful . They
recorded a couple of
months ago,
one song of which will be on
the Lasta
compilation EP (along with
KANSAN U U TISET, HIC
SYSTEEMI,
B ASTARDS, etc), and
the other 5 songs
will be released by
Propaganda , perhaps
on

the

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album.
U nfortunately, Eppu and Katie have j ust
j oined KAAOS, so their future isn't sure.
For
more
info, write
: Eppu Piekainen/
Opiskelij ankatu 36A 18/ 33720 Tampere 72/
FINLAND.
That's
it for now. Matti Saarinen/ Kaaos
fanzine/
Jaakontie 4 as . 12/ 37800 Toij aTa/
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catalog, including the CRASS label
.
su s ' r morons t
a they o; unni
down the streets yelling "Sieg Heil!" or
shouting the na me of their fa vorite
footba ll
tea m, or "Foreigners out!".
There is a lso in Ha nnover a politica l pa rty
tha t publishes a newspa per (not a zine),
a nd
orga nizes demonstra tions a nd concerts.
Their na me is the Ana rchist Pogo Pa rty of
Germa ny (APPD), a nd their pa per's ca lled
"Poor Germa ny" . Wha t they write ca n't be
ta ken seriously, a s they do it just for fun
a nd to keep the spirit of punk a live. They
dema nd the right for everybody to be
unemployed, more violence, a nd porn
videos . They a lso wa nt a Germa ny with the
borders of 1 237, ma ke life a n orgy, a nd
obliga tory milita ry service for women,
ha ndica pped, a nd
Jehova h's Witnesses . You
ca n order the pa per for 1 54/8p by writing:
Armes Deutschla nd/ Lichtenbergpla tz 4/ D-
3000
Ha nnover 91 1 W Germa ny . There is a
minimum order of 1 0 issues though,
beca use otherwise it's too expensive.
The gigs by APPD fea ture Germa n ba nds
like 5 BIER, NEUROTIC ARSEHOLES, SICK
PLEASURE, TOXOPLASMA, PHALLUS,
REGEL, ENOLAGAY, RAllIA, HAWAII
5-0, etc
. Unfortuna tely, most Germa n
ba nds of toda y a re 8000 times less
professiona l tha n most America n or English
ba nds pla ying here .
So ma ny kids don't
think they're worth supporting, a nd
they
don't dra w well. Who knows why there
a ren't more ba nds tha t a re possessed by
their music a nd pra cticing like ma d.
Now a look into the future: this summer
we will have the third national punk
meeting in Hannover, to beheld on August
4 . I hope it'll be lots of fun, without
stupid fights between punx and skins from
out of town, no harrassing of innocent
people or provoking of cops . There will
literally be thousands of cops there, who
won't hesitate to draw their clubs or throw
tear gas at command, so it's
absolutely
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BELGRADE-From the outset, punks here
'
were pessimistic beca use they were tota lly
boycotted by the ma ss media , a nd ha d
(numerous ha ssles with the police,
government, a nd hooliga ns. This is in
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putting on concerts, etc
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i Oima gine such things in our drea ms. At our
shows, the men who put on the gigs would
ca use a ll sorts of problems, like fucking
/with the sound, enga ging in other
rip-offs. The first big so-ca lled 'punk
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Ma skenba l", or Punk Ma sked Ba ll. It
consisted of 20 ba nds, most of whom were
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s Oshit, a nd a n a udience of poseurs . But the
older scene wa s slowly dying by 1 979, with
the pa ssivity of the crowds ma king it
ea sier
. At a RUTS concert, hooliga ns
/finished it off, bea ting up ma ny punks.
B OBut just when a ll seemed lost, a long ca me
a ba nd ca lled ARCHIVES FUN. They
rejuvena ted things singleha ndedly, a nd
/Belgra de punk emerged from a long coma .
The guita rist, Gvido, tried with a ll his
/strength to cha nge things, a nd I for one
wa nt to tha nk him a nd let him know tha t
/he is not forgotten.
/NECROPHILIAis one third of the big three
which now lea d the Belgra de scene . Their
'
guita rist a nd song writer, Djura , ca n't
'0
'
count the a mount of punches a nd kicks he
ha s

received

beca use he looks so

r
Orebellious . They were ba nned from gigs,
so they cha nged their na me a nd did 2
/DISORDER-like tota l cha os shows
. One wa s
illega l a nd only ha d 20 people a t it. They
(CIVILES) did this before a nyone here ha d
/hea rd of DISCHARGE, DISORDER, or
Finnish or America n HC. Ba ck a ga in to the
/na me NECROPHILIA, Djura wa s then a ble
to fina lly show everyone his grea t ta lent,
for which he is now a cult figure. so now,

fighting a mongst punks. But they ha ve

they exist under ha rd conditions, without

now developed from the ordina ry to rea l/

rehea rsa l spa ce, not pla ying under their

heights,

a nd

their

friendship

with
na me, etc., which proves tha t the public

NECROPHILIAis bonded by their simila r

here is still uneduca ted a nd ignora nt.

rebelliousness.
SOLUNIAN FRONTsta rted in '77, a nd

HERPES DISTRESS a re a younger ba nd'

consta ntly cha nged line-ups until '79.

(1 5- 1 6)
. They pla y good ha rdcore, a nd
Then in '81 , they got a new singer, Ciga ,

ha ve only done a few gigs

. We will see
who wa s in severa l other ba nds like

how they fa re in the future

. At la st,
URBAIN GUERILLA, WINE CATALOG, etc.

something is ha ppening in Belgra de

. And 1 '
Their first gig wa s stopped beca use of

a m ha ppy for it
.

Rista .
P .S
. This letter wa s tra nsla ted by me,
0
Tica . Rista is in ja il toda y for writing
gra ffiti in his fa ctory : "There is no
0
freedom/Fuck the system" . But he will join
us soon.
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ERIES IS A SOCIAL COMMENTARY ON THE
ON- GOING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
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Severa l issues a go, M R R received a nd
printed a couple of scene reports a bout
Argentina
. We got them from someone who
wrote from Los Angeles, cla iming to be
from Buenos Aires
. Appa rently, they were
bogus
. This 'Jua n' obviously felt tha t it
wa s a
grea t trick, or else wa s not ha ppy
to see a worldwide network of punks
developing
. In a ny ca se, since no
a ddresses were included in tha t
'report
',
no one spent a ny money writing
off into
nowhere, so the da ma ge wa s minima l
. One
person who wa s very pissed though, is a n
Argentine punk na med Ana Sha pira , who
wrote us a fter rea ding the
'
report'. She
ha s consented to put one together now,
with the correct informa tion on her scene.
Here it is:
ARGENTINA
: big clerica l power, strong
fa mily

tra dition,

repression,

sexua l
discrimina tion, fa scism,
30000 missing
persons,
600% a nnua l infla tion ra te, no
dole, a nd mediocrity upon mediocrity.
Knowing this, everybody should
understa nd why there is not a huge punk
popula tion here
. Resigna tion a nd Argies
a re old friends!
During the dicta torship, there were no
pla ces to pla y
. Now, venues such a s
Ma chine, Einstein, Boogie Woogie, a nd
Ha rd Rock exist under our new
'democra cy'
. Argies sla m very violently,
but punks a re not violent in the streets.
But, a s we a ll know, punks a re the mirror
of society, a nd beca use of the bra nd new
'democra cy', where everyone must look
'stra ight', there is no room for punks,
except of course in ja il.
There ha ve been three ba nds pla ying
regula rly since 1 979
. Los VIOLADORES
(Viola tors) ha d ma ny cencorship problems
during the dicta torship beca use of their
na me, a nd were the first (a nd only) punk
Accomplices
And this is the lega cy/It
's wha t I ha ve
An a nnihila ted country/No conscience, no vision
[28 million a ccomplices]
Toda y the comments a ga inst repression a bound
But just a few voices were hea rd
When the coup perished
They shouted a t the demonstra tions
N
But beca use the government a llowed them
The ma ss feelings spring up a ga in
Awa r or the vicory of the Boca * is the sa me
The protest voices will stop sounding
If the people ha ve wine, a ca r, a nd ca n procrea te
Imperia lism
million a ccomplices]
P
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Imperia lism is repudia ted out of piety
But the people wa tch a ma zed
At the Ya nkee
'
s TV series in their homes
[28 million a ccomplices]
Wha t wa s the demonstra tion for
If the government a llowed it?
They stekyou a t erg

LAPL
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Let t ycou wasteyour energy

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Shouting against thepower.
*a soccer team
a vera ge a ge of 1 6, COMANDO SUICIDA
who a re ha rdcore, TUMBAS N
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. who ha ve

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a CRUCIFIX influence, Los FUSEMILLES
who pla y a RAMONES style but more ra w
a nd ha ve a woma n guita rist (a rea l ra rity
here), KAOS R .A
. who a re ex-RASIOSOS,
a nd K.G.B
. who ha ve only pla yed one gig.
So, tha t's the extent of our poor but true
Argentine punk scene
. I will send more
1,iPAUNBICAROCio
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informa tion next time
. Los VIOLADORES
will be pla ying in Cordoba (500 miles from
the ca pita l, a nd they ma y bring some new
TEAM 8i
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fina lly settling on a singer who is one of
the best tha t I ha ve ever hea rd . They a lso
ha ve a 2-tra ck demo, a nd come from La
Pla ta , which is the ca pita l of Buenos Aires
province, 50 miles from the Federa l
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crowd plea ser, initia lly . They cover a
number of pa st pa ssions from the,
PLASMATICS to LED ZEPPLIN, a nd they
a lso do a n old X-RAY SPEX song (in
Ja pa nese)
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wa s most a ppa lled a nd sha ken when the
singer stripped down to her g-string a nd ,
red fishnets, flinging her bla ck pa sties a t
the a udience
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don't pa y a ttention
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guita rist) is a close, helpful friend of mine'
on the Bea t Cra zy sta ff. This is a good"
ba nd, strong in its unity a nd slightly
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in this set were so fucking cute tha t I ha d
to sit ba ck, smile, a nd la ugh . They
opened up with "Kill The Tea cher" a nd
sa ng

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here
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from America , a nd you ma y be ta ken a ba ck
by how stra nge, imita tive, a nd a lien it
seems. Ma ybe you won't be
. At a ny ra te,
plea se rea d on.
O.X.Z
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ma jor problem with this

sta rter ba nd wa s a la ck of synchronicity.
' However, there is some potentia l in the
fa st, uncha nging drums, plodding (a t
n times) ba ss, a nd untuned/over fedba ck
n f guita r
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n
English tha n Ja pa nese, a nd a re done in a
n
very popula r scra tchy, hea vy, bea r-like
voice, perha ps origina ted by the Ja pa nese
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ha ve litera lly clea red the da nce floor with _g
billy clubs (which a re a rea l 'sta tus
n
symbol' to ca rry), a nd hurl gla ss Coke
cottles into the concrete floor--sha ttering n
a nd frightening girls who crouch benea th n
benches . Rea lly, who needs this? I wa s
n
introduced to these guys by their buddies, n
who took me to my first gig here . I wa s -
* plea sed to ma ke friends so quickly, but
now rea lise tha t I disa gree with the feeling
,4y, they project. a s Konnishi- Sa n told me
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together
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wa nting control over the ma ss in front (a s
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think ZOUO's prima ry subject of verba l
a tta ck is wa r ("No more blood . . . . No more
blood"), yet I ha ve trouble ma king out the
words. The boy with the red moha wk in
some of the ZOUO pits is my friend
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its a bout time you ha d a regula r

Austra lia n scene report
. This one dea ls
\ ma inly with Melbourne, where I live, plus
bits & pieces I hea r a bout other cities.
% Melbourne ha s a rgua bly the best scene in
the country, a nd the ba nds a round now
b ha ve

fina lly

shrugged off mimicking

English ba nds a nd ha ve their own sound.
\ There a re ma ny styles of punk pla yed
\ here, a nd the ba nds sound different from
ea ch other . I think for the first time our
% ba nds ca n cla im to be a s good a s a ny punk
ba nds in the world.
% We ha ve gigs every Frida y night a t a pla ce
ca lled the Helter Skelter, with 3 ba nds
\ ea ch show. About the ba nds : DEPRESSION
would seem to be the best known
\ Austra lia n ba nd. They ha ve relea sed one
\ EP, a nd a re on the new MRR comp 1 p, a s
well a s ha ving a ta pe relea sed a yea r a nd
% a
ha lf
a go by Regression fa nzine. They've
%been together over 2 yea rs, a nd when
% they first sta rted were very influenced by
(da re I sa y it) DISCHARGE a nd G.B.H .,
% but quickly developed their own style
which is a bit slower a nd hea vy sounding.
\ They a re going to relea se a n LP a t some
point in the nea r future. You ca n write
% them a t: 25 Mimosa Rd/ Ca rnegie 31 63!
Victoria ! Austra lia .
%
\CIVILDISSIDENTa re a thra sh ba nd in the
%
America n mold . They've
a lso been a round
%for a bout 2 yea rs in one form or a nother.
`They've relea sed a ta pe ca lled "The 4th
%Ra te America n Thra sh Ta pe"
. Tra cey a nd
%Da ve ca me from a nother ba nd ca lled MAD
%FLOWERS, which sa w the 2 ba nds swa p
% ba ss a nd drum pla yers
. I don't know if
%they get a fa ir go in the scene, a s they've
% been outspoken
. All CD songs a re very
%thought provoking
. Write them a t
: P.O.
% Box

3/

Mt

Evelyn/

Victoria

3796/
Austra lia
. They will ha ve a few tra cks on
% the compila tion LP Pushea d is putting
together.
%
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.r 'iiuiiiiiiii~~i #r niur ,#m''.em- i~
The BODIES ha ve relea sed a ta pe which is

There is a CRASS a rt exhibition sta rting %

studio recorded on one side, live on the

now, tha t will run for 2 months. Ba nds

other
. Since then, they threw out their
singer, a nd a re not doing thra sh a nymore
beca use too ma ny ba nds do. I persona lly
think they a re a lot better now
. They've
recorded 5 tra cks for a n EP, a nd Da ve
(ba ss) is putting together a compila tion
video of Aussie ba nds (1 7 so fa r)
. Write
him a t
: 40 Dona x Rd/ Corio 321 4/ Victoria /
Austra lia .
PERMANENTDAMAGE a re one of the newer
ba nds a round, a nd a re building up quite a
following . After sta rting a s quite thra sy,
they've now slowed down a nd become
tighter, with a ha rd/hea vy sound . They
mix some a vera ge pa ced songs with thra sh.
I ha ven't got a n a ddress for them, but if
you write me (a ddress a t end of a rticle),
I'll pa ss it on to them.
VICIOUS CIRCLE is a nother new ba nd,
a nd a s I pla y ba ss, I won't go into too
much deta il . Ba sica lly, we mix thra sh with
slower stuff a nd sing a bout stuff we feel
strongly a bout
. We've recorded a few
tra cks for a Melbourne comp (which I'll
write a bout soon). to get in touch, write
to my a ddress.
PSYCHOTIC MANIAC a re a fun ba nd, with
a singer who is a bit of a cha ra cter
. They
a re close friends with DEPRESSION, a nd
don't seem to pla y without them
. You ca n
conta ct them a t DEPRESSION's a ddress.
They ha ven't recorded yet, a nd don't
know if they intend to.
Perth is dea d . Lots of skins who like to
ba sh punks, therefore a lot of Perth
punks a re moving to Melbourne.
I ha d a visit from a bloke from Ca nberra
recently, a nd he sa ys there's a fa ir dea l
of punks in the ca pita l city, but most a re
very Oi oriented a nd ha ve yet to open
their minds to U.S. a nd Europea n HC. A
decent ba nd though is 4-MINUTE
WARNING, so write them if you wa nna find
out wha t goes on in Ca nberra (20
Drya ndra St/ O'Connor A
.C.T. 2601 /
Austra lia .
The Sydney scene ha s a few ba nds but
seems a bit untogether
. It's a big city,
bigger tha n Melbourne, so I ca n't rea lly
sa y much a bout it coz I don't know a bout
it
. Here's some people you ca n write to if
you wa nna find out: Bruce Griffiths
(Trousers In Action zine) / c/o Pha ntom
Records/ 373 Pitt St/ Sydney 2000/ N.S.W.
Austra lia , or Colin (a member
of %
VIGIL-ANTI)/ 31 Ann St/ Surry Hills \
201 0/ N.S.W.

Austra lia , or Chris (of

EXECUTION MASKS)/ 1 7 Kerry Ave/ \
Epping/ N.S.W. Austra lia , or BOX OF
FISH/ 1 /49 Ba rcom Ave/ Kings Cross/ \
N
.S.W. Austra lia . \
To end, I will sa y tha t Austra lia ha s %%
ba nds tha t a re worth checking out a nd
who conta in their own form of origina lity \
a nd a re trying to a chieve something, so
if \
people oversea s ta ke a n interest in us, %
then perha ps we might get the exposure \
a nd boost tha t we need to rea lly get %
things ha ppening . There a re a few \
dedica ted people here in ba nds a nd
involved in other wa ys who a re gra dua lly \
'tZ
giving Austra lia a n identity, so plea se
write to the people I've given a ddresses of %
a nd check out wha t we've got to offer .

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will be pla ying there, a s well a s lots of %
displa ys, etc
.

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Now on to other pa rts of Austra lia
. %
PERDITION ha ve a 5-song EP coming out
shortly
. Its a killer! So conta ct Ma rk %
Ha yes/ 20 Kym St/ Athelstone, S
.A. /
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%
Austra lia . PERDITION a re a fine Adela ide \
ba nd who've relea sed a 1 3- tra ck ta pe,
a nd often pla y in Melbourne
. Also recently %
pla ying here wa s a nother worthwhile \
Adela ide ba nd ca lled RIBCAGE WRESTLERS %
(sort of a cross between MEATMEN a nd \
BUTTHOLE SURFERS)
. Agood Adela ide %
zine is D.N.A. (c/o the Record Fa ctory/ 6 \
Rundle Vie! Adela ide
5000/ S.A.,
Austra lia . Other Adela ide ba nds a re the %
MUTANTS,

SUBDEK,

DESECRATED
RELICS.
MURDER MURDER SUICIDE a re a slower
ZOUNDS- type ba nd who relea sed a 5-song
ta pe, but ha ven't pla yed ma ny gigs yet.
The MESS ha ve been a round a while in
some form, but keep disa ppea ring. They
used to be a sort of unorga nized CHAOS
UK noise type, but slowed down a nd
beca me clea rer . There a re a lso other ba nds
such a s the TRIBE (from Geelong, a s a re
the BODIES), THRUSH. Then there's I

Some other useful a ddresses a re : Da vid \

SPITON YOUR GRAVE, who a re no longer Ross (CIVILDISSIDENTa nd ra dio show)! 1
4
punk .

3 York Ct/ Hea thmont 31 35/ Victoria . \

Acompila tion of Melbourne ba nds is Ala sda ir (letter writer up to his ea rs) / 1 2
currently being put together by a cha p Clifton St/ Nedla nds
6009! W.A. Then
who used to sing for END RESULT(who I there's Ma rek (RIBCAGE WRESTLER a nd
hea rd ma y be reforming with different zine) / 6/46 Gla dstone Rd/ Mile End 5031 /
people), na mely Pa ul Conroy
. It's to be
S . A
. Next is Simon Butcher (ca ssette
ca lled Under The Ga rden Sta te, a nd should

zine)/ 29 Billing/ Whya lla Pla ;'crd! S.A. \

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be done by the time you rea d this.

Pa ul Lindsa y (singer of VICIOUS CIRCLE \

At the moment there a re 2 fa nzines in a nd ha lf of Greedy & Pa thetic) / 1 4 Lord
Melbourne
: Regression (my zine), a nd a n Ct/ Bra ybrook/ Victoria
. Tha t'll do it for %
%
%

excellent zine by Dea n ca lled Greedy &

%
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now
. Cheers?

%
Pa thetic (9/46 Greeves St/ St Kilda / Alby/ 1 9 McKinley Ave/ Ma lvern 31 44/
Music video. Wha t s the first thing t a
comes to mind? MTV right? Nicely
choreogra phed, mega -buck, sensa tiona listic
deceptions designed to coerce the
impressiona ble viewer to purcha se a ll
products bea ring tha t pa rticula r group's
logo or moniker . Ima ges on the screen
ma ke women a ppea r like Ba rbie dolls,
ea ger to "ma ke it" with the whole world,
ma ke ma teria listic possessions a ppea r to
solve everyone's problems, a nd ma ke ma le
ba nd members a ppea r a s God's gift to
huma nkind .

Conspicuously

a bsent

is
a nything of va lue.
Now picture this-- bruta l, intense
ma chine- gun fire, seemingly endless,
bla sting a ga inst a ra pid-fire monta ge: a n
a lcoholic woma n rising unstea dily from bed,
drink in ha nd; a symphony orchestra
performing the na tiona l a nthem ; BLONDIE
in performa nce; a n isla nd woma n with a
ca n of Ha wa iia n Punch ; a dia pered ba by's
bottom . Then a ra w, a ngry rock 'n' roll
sound ta kes over. ,Shots of lush jungle,
yellow ca bs on pa cked streets, a nd a rmy
ta nks in a ction. Horrifying wa r scenes,
wounded men la id out, ha lf-sheeted on the
ground . Politica l a ssa ssina tions . Aburning
cross surrounded by kkk . Interviews with
people with something intelligent to sa y.
And of course, foota ge of ba nds . AND
WHATBANDS! Some of the most incredible
musica l groups ever, like the AVENGERS,
BAD BRAINS,

BLACK FLAG, DILS,

GERMS, NUNS, SEX PISTOLS,
SCREAMERS, a nd the WEIRDOS . But who's
responsible for a ll this? Surely this could
never be on TV? There couldn't possibly
be a ma rket for this kind of thing. Or
could there? Joe Rees thinks so. Joe Rees
ma de the monta ge described a bove . Joe
Rees runs Ta r . et Video.
Ta rget Video is a Sa n Fra ncisco ba sed
studio whose ma in concern is videota ping
performa nce a rtists, pa rticula rly origina l,
ra w, vola tile a rtists/musicia ns
. Da ting ba ck
to 1 977, Ta rget ha s a collection of some
350 ta pes tha t offer the most complete
documenta tion of the U.S. punk/new
wa ve(when it wa sn't a ba d word)
movement, with ma ny English noteworthies
a s well. Ma ny a fter-hours pa rties were
held a t Ta rget's studios to ta pe these
a rtists(on "home turf" so to spea k) a nd to
show completed videos . Other times the
ba nds were shot on loca tion, from the
Ma buha y to the Elite Club in S.F., a nd
ma ny other pla ces a round the U.S. a nd
Europe
. Origina lly the completed videos,
or monta ges a s they're ca lled, were just
shown in a few clubs a round the U.S. a nd
on a ca ble television show in S.F
. But in
1 980 Ta rget went to Europe to show its
ta pes a nd things sta rted picking up. The
response to the videos there wa s
overwhelming a nd ha s led to a worldwide
distribution of selected ta pes, a va ila ble
through under . round record stores a nd
it order .
UNDERGROUND
FORCES
SCREAMERS
BLACK FLAG
GERMS FLIPPER
HROBBING GRISTLE
EWD GANG OF FOUR
/' DEAD KENNEDYS
P.I
.L.
RAMPS TUXEDOMOON
SEX PISTOLS GUN CLUB
BAUHAUS SIC PLEASURE
MARK PAULINE RAYBEATS
JOHN COOPER CLARKE
i'.
I ta lked with Joe Rees a bout Ta rget
a nd how it a ll bega n.
"I grew up in Iowa
. I wa s very
interested in both the music scene a nd the
a rt scene while I wa s growing up(la te
'50s--ea rly '60s)
. At the sa me time tha t I
sta rted getting into rock 'n' roll music I
found I ha d a ta lent to dra w, a nd since I
wa s interested in a rt, I decided tha t tha t
wa s the direction I wa nted to ta ke
. I used
to pra ctice with some ba nds when I wa s
1 4-1 5 yea rs old, but it never rea lly went
a nywhere
. I could never rea lly get a long
with the Midwest, never rea lly conform
enough to fit in, so I wa s a lwa ys in some
kind of trouble. I wa s
consta ntly on edge,
so I wa s a ttra cted to wha t wa s considered
ra dica l or rebel-type music in those times.
DUANE EDDY AND THE REBELS comes to
mind
. Well, a fter a confronta tion with the
la w, I wa s given the choice of proba tion
a nd reform school or enter the milita ry, so
I joined the Na vy
. After a bout a yea r in
the
Na vy I developed hea vy emotiona l
problems trying to a djust to tha t kind of
lifestyle
. I tried to run a wa y from it,
a ttempted suicide a couple of times, a nd
wa s pla ced in a hospita l in Sa n Diego
under psychia tric ca re for a bout a yea r
. I
fina lly convinced them tha t the best thing
for me wa s to be let out of the milita ry
a nd tha t wa s wha t ha ppened
. I ra n a round
Ca lifornia a nd Arizona for a bout a yea r,
experimenting with drugs a nd so on, a nd
when I got a ll tha t stra ightened out, I
decided to go ba ck to school
. So I moved
to the Ba y Area a nd went to the Ca lifornia
School of Arts a nd Crofts, where I
developed my a rtistic ta lents, first in
pa inting, then sculpture, a nd eventua lly in
performa nce a rt,

using video a s a
ba ckdrop

with

musica l

soundtra cks.
Around this time('73- '74) I met John
Gullick, Da ve Ca ruthers, a nd
Sue&Sa lly(who la ter formed the MUTANTS)
a nd sta rted using a video ca mera to
document performa nces. They sa w some of
the videota ped performa nces a nd liked
them, so I sta rted ta ping some of their
work, which in the beginning wa sn't rea lly
musica l, but they then formed the group
the MUTANTS."
Joe gra dua ted from the Ca lifornia
School of Arts a nd Cra fts(MFA'73) a nd
took a tea ching job a t the Aca demy of Art
in Sa n Fra ncisco. Upset a bout the working
conditions, he helped form a union, which
subsequently ca used himself a nd a bout 35
other instructors to be fired . Since he wa s
now unemployed, he could devote more
time to his video work a nd sta rted working
closely with underground music groups . It
wa s during this period tha t perha ps some
of the finest work wa s done. The
MUTANTS' performa nce a t the Ca lifornia
School for the Dea f is one such piece. The
young, exubera nt a udience couldn't hea r
the music, but you could see on their
fa ces tha t they cquld rea lly FEELit.
Another moving effort is the CRAMPS a nd
UTANTS show a t the Na pa Sta te Menta l
Hospita l. The difference between wha t is
considered sa ne a nd wha t is considered
insa ne becomes very minima l a s the
a udience a nd ba nd members intera ct. And
of course, the ba nd CRIME'S a ppea ra nce a t
Sa n Quentin Prison, decked out in their
da rk blue uniforms a nd silver ba dges,
highlighted by the wa rden telling them
tha t he wa sn't going to be responsible if
they were held ca ptive
. These a re just a
few highlights of the countless memora ble
performa nces tha t Ta rget ha s chronicled
over the yea rs.
But, ba ck to where we were, with Joe
describing the underground a rt movement
a nd how it sta rted.
"At this time('74, '75, '76) there wa s
.

la rge

so-ca lled

"intellectua l"

a rt
movement ha ppening. er orma nce a rt ha
sta rted to develop, but it wa s still
extremely sophistica ted a nd esoteric, a ll
confined to the intellectua l a rt community.
It wa s very dry, sta gna nt, a nd closed off
from the public
. There were still lots of
young people tha t were interested a nd
trying to a pproa ch it, but it seemed like a
very closed situa tion . It wa s quite
unrewa rding beca use you were a lwa ys
struggling to be involved with this group
of elitists
. There wa s no rea l freedom, no
open comra derie, it wa s like everyone wa s
competing to be a cknowledged . I wa s very
disencha nted. I wa nted to sta rt a n
a lterna tive spa ce,which I did, a nd ca lled it
Ta rget Video . Alot of other people were
feeling the sa me kind of a ttitude a nd they
wa nted to be involved in something like
tha t. The idea wa s to give a spa ce, a n
environment, for people to be a ble to
perform
. Aspa ce outside of this closed
system tha t we were fa cing, where we
could ha ve a good time a nd enjoy
ourselves, to express the type of politica l
a nd socia l idea s tha t were going on,
without worrying a bout whether it wa s
going to be a ccepted or not. The whole
concept wa s a development of a
persona lized la ngua ge. There were other
so-ca lled a lterna tive spa ces in the Ba y
Area , but they were definitely pra cticing
the New-York style intellectua l rules a nd
regula tions . Ta rget Video wa s nothing
more tha n a hole in the wa ll for a bunch
of refugees. But it turned out tha t tha t
kind of situa tion spa wned the most unique
a nd origina l concepts tha t were ha ppening,
a nd it sta rted growing a long with the punk
community, a nd this 'thing' developed into
a movement. Amovement I would still
consider the most incredible coming
together of people who were involved with
music, gra phics, a rt of a ll kinds, a nd
ma ga zines tha t ha s ever ha ppened
. There
wa s a network tha t wa s
being built tha t
a ttra cted people from a ll over the U.S.
a nd Europe
. Ta rget Video beca me the
focus point of the development of video in
the underground . As the events unfolded
a nd the intensity built, we were there
. We
ha d a sta ff of ha rd-working volunteers a nd
sta rted documenting a nd working with a lot
of
a rtists tha t were involved with this
phenomena l movement. People were rea lly
into doing things, not just one thing but
ma ny things
. There wa s a n incredible
desire to be a pa rt of it a ll a nd this rea t
ever . a nd a cceta nce."
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Europe quite often. Over

yea rs
on) we ended up covering 1 4 different
countries a nd ha d some 220 shows
. All
over Europe, Norwa y, Finla nd,
Czechoslova kia , Hunga ry
. Sweden, Spa in,
Ita ly, Germa ny, Holla nd, Fra nce, Engla nd.
Also Austra lia a nd Ja pa n
. These were
public showings, booked a s a group would
be, in clubs, a uditoriums, a nd cultura l
centers, shown on a 25 foot screen with a
3000 wa tt PAsystem
. I a lwa ys tried to
a void a sit-down type of viewing, I wa nted
it to be trea ted more like a live event, a nd
videota pe ga ve you tha t 'you-a re-there'
feeling
. The foota ge wa s mostly o
Ca lifornia a nd U
.S. groups but there wa s
no la ngua ge ba rrier
. Everyone seemed to
pick up the feeling, the messa ge so to
spea k, rega rdless if the could understa nd
the 'words'.''
rom pu. is s owings a roun . t e
lobe to the priva cy of your own home.
ha t's wha t Ta rget is working on now.
Since commercia l television's re-editing a nd
re-loca ting of wha t little stuff Joe ha d
given them(fa r removing it from the rea l
experience) left a ba d ta ste in his mouth,
he wa nted nothing further to do with it,
so he decided to ma ke his own
progra mming a nd distribute it. Since he
a lrea dy ha d a n immense libra ry of ta pes, it
wa s just a ma tter of compiling the best
foota ge

together

a nd ma rketing the
finished product. Contra cts ha ve been
used since the beginning a nd a re
presented to the a rtist(s) involved . The
ma jority of the contra cts dea l with a
percenta ge going to the group, this
percenta ge usua lly being a s good a s or
better tha n ones obta ined from record
compa nies
. The contra cts a re ba sed on
ea ch individua l production
. Once the costs
involved in tha t production ha ve been
recouped(typica lly $1 500-2000), the
percenta ge pa yments to the a rtist(s)
sta rts . At the sta rt of this yea r Ta rget
sta rted distributing selected ta pes for
home use. These ta pes a re a va ila ble on
VHS a nd BETA, a pproxima tely one hour
long, a nd produced for broa dca st qua lity.
They a re a va ila ble through loca l
underground record stores, some video
reta il outfits, a nd through ma il order.
Although these ta pes a re not
inexpensive(close to $40), to sa y nothing
of the cost of a home pla yer, they conta in
a bsolutely priceless documenta tion of one
of the most uni
.ue a nd vita l periods in
music.
ong wit t is grea t energy ca me a
need to find a n outlet for this informa tion,
a mea ns of rea ching more people. Joe
describes how this evolved.
"I a pproa ched ca ble cha nnel 25 in Sa n
Fra ncisco('78) with the idea of doing a 30
minute music a nd community informa tion
show. It wa s a ccepted, la sted a little over
a yea r, a nd met with a fa ir a mount of
success. In tha t period of time we
expa nded to a n hour forma t
. Towa rds the
end, the biggest problem wa s purely
fina ncia l
. Since the sta tion wa sn't
commercia l there wa s no support a nd I
couldn't a fford to do a n hour show every
week. I decided tha t tha t wa sn't a
direction I could go in, so I decided to
ta ke the show on tour a nd see wha t would
ha ppen . I would compile foota ge into 1 or
2 hour pa cka ges a nd show them a t clubs
a round the U.S., cha rging a couple of
bucks a t the door. Then we were
a pproa ched by a French cultura l
orga niza tion, FNAC, in 1 980 . They wa nted
Ta rget to come to Europe a nd show some
of our ma teria l there
. Well we did, a nd
over a bout a month a nd a ha lf we wound
up touring 1 2-1 4 little cities in Fra nce . I
M

c g:
wa s a ma zed by the positive response to the
videos a nd we ended up going ba ck to '
And how ha s Joe a nd Ta rget ma na ged
to keep going a ll these yea rs?
"Alot of things ha ve shifted, but I
still ha ve a grea t pa ssion for the sa me
type of idea ls a s when I first sta rted . I
ha ven't given up a nd given a ll my stuff to
commercia lity or locked everything up in
some a rchives somewhere . The Europea n
response is wha t rea lly kept me going . I
would give shows, in the U.S. a nd get
1 00-200 people, but in Europe it wa s much
bigger . Like a t one show in Fra nce there
were 1 800 people! There's kind of a
mystique a bout the ea rly Ca lifornia scene
there, everywhere I go I get a sked a bout
it. And the people tha t ha ve responded
a fter seeing the ta pes or buying them ha ve
been very positive. It's a rea l persona l
rela tionship . It's a bout putting ma teria l out
to people who a re rea l excited a bout it a nd
they respond to it. It ma kes sense to me
to do it. I'm interested in people's
responses a nd how they rea ct to it. Also,
I think it's importa nt to show people ba nds
they ha ve never seen, like U.S. ba nds in
the Europea n showings, so they will look
for them when they do come over . Ba nds
like the DEAD KENNEDYS, BLACK FLAG,
a nd GUN CLUB were a ll shown over in
Europe on ta pe before they went over
there. And sa y someone buys a record of,
or hea rs a bout, some group tha t's no
longer a round, they ca n buy the videota pe
for the visua l experience
."
"I think groups should put 1 ,2,3,or 4
songs on a ta pe, ma ybe it'll go somewhere,
ma ybe it won't, but there is a pla ce where
someone will

see it.

Its a wa y to
communica te. Use the energy a nd
informa tion a s a tool a nd not let it become
a dicta ting force. I'm still a ma zed a t the
boring, repetitive stuff on TV a nd people
a ccept it. If there's a ma rket for
pornogra phy, ra cism, sexism, why not a
bit of ra dica l music a nd idea lism? But most
people won't stick their neck out a nd ta ke
a cha nce . I think a lot of people a re
disillusioned in thinking tha t the only
rewa rd is a moneta ry one. I sta rted out
trying to crea te a n a lterna tive a nd develop
a persona lized la ngua ge, a nd I think I
ha ve, a nd I think it will grow ."
Other interesting video ma teria l worth
checking out tha t I know a bout is Flipside
ma ga zine's "video fa nzines", "Media Blitz"
on La Mira da ca ble cha nnel 1 9(a lso Flipside
project), a nd Dirk Dirksen's(longtime S.F.
underground promoter) TV show on ca ble
cha nnel 6 in Sa n Fra ncisco.
Joe encoura ges groups/a rtists to
conta ct him for videota ping. Interested
distributors a re a lso welcome . Ta rget is
a lso expa nding its sta ff a nd a ll interested
people should send resumes or inquiries to
a ddress below.
Address a ll correspondence to: Ta rget
Video 678 South Va n Ness, S.F., CA941 1 0
If you a re a video a rtist a nd would like
your ma teria l distributed conta ct Ta rget
a lso.
Alpha video duplica tion is a t the sa me
a ddress a nd offers low-cost, high-qua lity
video du .lica tion .
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CHILDREN'S CRUSADE - ca ssette
Two former members of thra shers STARVATION ARMY a nd
a nother group ca lled PARIS IN THE SPRING tea m up a ga in (one
on voca ls, the other on a ll instruments), this time to produce
some ominous, dirge-like STOOGES ma teria l. I found it
somewha t less tha n moving, a s is usua lly the ca se with studio
projects. (TV)
(1 269 Na sh Ave .--Elyria , OH 44035)
DIE KREUZEN - "Die Kreuzen" LP
This is fucking grea t! This is fucking grea t! This is fucking
grea t! This is fucking grea t! This is fucking grea t! This is
fucking grea t! This is fucking grea t! This is fucking grea t!
This is fucking grea t! This is fucking grea t! This is fucking
grea t! This is fucking grea t! (TY)
(Touch & Go--P.O
. Box 71 6--Ma umee, OH 43537)
A.T.G. - "Children shouldn't Pla y with Dea d Things" ca ssette
AGAINSTTHE GRAIN a re a n intense ba nd with a n a ma zingly
ra w singer. Their ma teria l is in the non-melodic vein, whether
fa st a nd punky or slow a nd pet-rockish, a nd the guita r tone is
nicely distorted. (JB)
(Address lost--lea se conta ct us! )
AEROBIC DEATH - "E.S.G." ca ssette
Ga lloping drums, weird structures, a nd sna rly-a ss voca ls a re
the ha llma rks of AEROBIC DEATH's thra shy a tta ck
. They sound
sort of like the ea rly MEATPUPPETS, right down to a slight
GRATEFULDEAD influence. "Ten Minute Fa rt" is the best song
title. (TY)
(The Fa rm--P.O
. Box 951 23--Sea ttle, WA981 45)
ANTI - "God Ca n't Bounce" LP
This selection of ma teria l, recorded between 1 982 a nd 83,
both revea ls ANTI's strong points a nd suggests a rea s for
improvement
. The upbea t compositions (like "We Will Die") a nd
the short thra shers seem to burst with energy, while others
(like "Media Sca m" a nd "Ba ckfire Bomber") seem letha rgic a nd
just sort of sit there. Adecent, though inconsistent, relea se.
(SS)
(New Under
.round--4305 W. 1 53rd St.--La wnda le, CA90260)
ARTTHIEVES - "Bla nk Fa ces" ca ssette
The ARTTHIEVES ha ve quite a distinctive sound for a
thra sh ba nd, due both to their ra spy voca ls (which remind me
quite a bit of RIBZY's) a nd their ta sty, tight, a nd somewha t
inventive song structures
. Definitely a winner . (TY)
(Joel--501 Cherry St
.--Green Ba y, WI 54301 )
AUTHENTIC VIRTUES - ca ssette
Sort of a modern da y rhythm-ma chine version of a ba nd one
might ha ve found on the biza rre 60's la bel E
.S.P., a long with
the FUGS, the GODZ, a nd especia lly PEARLS BEFORE SWINE.
Rhythms a nd electronic orga n domina te their ga ra ge-level
instrumenta l a tta ck, with lots of noticea ble 60's tinges.
Actua lly, I think there a re voca ls, but just off-mike
. (TY)
(393 Miles Ave
.--Yuba Cit , CA95991 )
BATTALION OF SAINTS - "Second Coming" LP
Wa s it worth the wa it? Fuck yes, sa ys I! Song a fter song
kicks a ss with a Meta l-punk sound tha t doesn't teeter over too
fa r into la me guita r solola nd
. Lots of power, a tight delivery,
a nd especia lly intense voca ls a dd up to a grea t relea se from the
BATS. (TY)
(Neutrons--201 5 Mea de Ave .--Sa n Diego, CA921 1 6)
BREATHER - "Loves a nd Disloves
" LP
I think this fa lls into the industria l ca tegory beca use of its
sta rkness, repetitive rhythms, loops of brea king gla ss, a nd
obsession with ra dia tion dea th, but it's much more musica l tha n
most industria l music
. "Ma ya " ha s a wonderful rhythm (even if
the voca ls sound too much like JOY DIVISION's Ia n Curtis),
but it wa s this song tha t got me to listen to a ll of it, ma ny
times
. Acompelling effort, eerie a nd ra ther listena ble. (RS)
(Sonic Incision--P.O. Box 881 974--S.F ., CA941 88-1 974)
CERTAIN DEATH - "Gra nny '
s on the S.W.A.T. Tea m" ca ssette
Crunching meta llic punk of the Midwest va riety
. Most of the
lyrics a re good, a nd occa siona lly even unique (a s in the title
song). They a lso send out a n informa tive monthly newsletter.
(Jel)
($2 .98 to Da nny Slea ze--1 21 56 Greenwood Ave
.--Blue Isla nd, IL
60406)
CORROSION OF CONFORMITY - "Eye for a n Eye" LP
Wild, a bra sive power tha t bla res out with growling punches
of intensity
. Sna rling guita r distortion a nd ra pid chord cha nges
sma ck down crucia l crunches of feverous exertion, a s voca list
Eric ra sps out ha rsh grumbles of throa t-bruising ferocity. Fa st
thra sh with ra w sonic sla ughterings of cha os, thrusted with
convulsions of strong lyrica l sta mina . Only a few ba nds ca n
excite with C
.O.C.'s tough- sounding power . Ea rth-sha ttering
a nd ea r-bla sting
. (Pus)
(No Core--P.O. Box 5091 --Ra leigh, NC 27607)
DASH & THE RIP-ROCKS - "Live Angst" ca ssette
The dra wba cks of a live relea se--low fidelity a nd unclea r
sound-- come to the fore here, but DASH a nd compa ny ha ve
lots of power, which will hopefully come to the fore if a nd when
the go into a regula r studio
. They pla y sna ppy a nd sometimes
crea tive thra sh, with lyrics gea red towa rd ma king the a vera ge
coa l miner a s a ngry a s he ought to be
. (TV)
($3 to Ra t Deco--436 Pennsylva nia Ave
.--Morga ntown, WV
26505
DEBAUCHE - "Ma tura tion ca ssette
Most of DEBAUCHE's five songs a re cha ra cterized by their
length (long), tempo (medium), voca ls (growly), style (Meta l
punk), a nd innova tion (synth)
. Not my ma in thing, but a
welcome depa rture
. (TY)
(3 W
. Noyes--Arlington Heights, IL
60005)
DIAMANDAGALAS - LP
DIAMANDAGALAS is a performa nce a rtist who relies on
multi- la yered voca l effects a la LAURIE ANDERSON, but
wherea s the la tter spea ks in soothing tones, GALAS screa ms,
ga gs, a nd shrieks in the piercing ONOesque tones of a n a nima l
being electrocuted. While smoother a nd less intense tha n her
previous 1 2", this a lbum is essentia l for a ddicts of the truly
prima l. Besides, it's the only record I've hea rd la tely tha t's left
me sta nding in the middle of my bedroom swea ting a nd sta ring
a t the wa ll. (Jel)
(Meta la ngua ge--2639 Russell St.--Berkeley, CA94705)
CAPITLE - ca ssette
Ia n Ma cKa ye-ish voca ls, a ccompa nied by crude, fa irly
sta nda rd buzzsa w thra sh. CAPITLE pla y well, but they never
rea lly cut loose . (TV)
(Bla ck & White--P.O. Box 71 68--Alba ny, NY 1 2224)
CORSAIRS - "Toda y" 1 2" EP
I ca n see Greg Sha w ha ving multiple orga sms over this one!
The CORSAIRS pla y soft, 60's-inspired pop with some decent
melodies a nd ha rmonies, but the wimpoid overa ll sound a nd
obtrusive pia no severely detra ct from their potentia l a ppea l.
Someone should cra nk up their guita r a mp a nd tra sh the
keyboa rds . (JB)
(Music Ra ge--P.O. Box 31 78--N. Hollywood, CA
91 609)
DEATH PIGGY - "Love Wa r" EP
An unusua l relea se, both musica lly a nd lyrica lly
. DEATH
PIGGY's sound is dischorda nt a nd diverse, a nd ra nges from
rela tively stra ightforwa rd funnypunk with weird voca ls (like
"Fa t Ma n" a nd "No Prob Dude") to off the wa ll ra ps ("Ea t the
People") to brief a ca pella cha nts ("C.O.D. spells God") to
permuta tions of the a bove ("Ma ngoes a nd Goa ts" a nd "Spla tter
Flicks"). Not a t a ll typica l. (JB)
($2 .75 to DSI--Box 346--Dunn Loring, VA22027)
DROOGS - "Cha nge is Gonna Come/Wa itin' for My Ma n"
This new DROOGS 45 fea tures a cla ssic 60 's-inspired origina l
with belligerent singing, loud guita rs, a nd boss ba ckground
voca ls in the choruses
. The B-side ha s a suita bly ra unched-out
live version of the old VELVETUNDERGROUND chestnut.
" Cha nge . .
." is truly wonderful . (JB)
(Plug n Socket--P
.O. Box DH--Va n Nuys, CA91 41 2-1 520)
EASTBAY RAY - "Trouble in Town/Poison Hea rt"
The first solo effort from DEAD KENNEDYS guita rist Ea st
Ba y Ra y, a nd it's a good 'un
. "Trouble..
." would ma ke a good
theme song for a spa ghetti Western, with its plucky
Spa nish-fla vored guita r, siren-like ba cking voca ls, a nd pla intive
singing
; "Poison Hea rt" is a bittersweet, a tmospheric number
with some semi-psych guita r
. Tuneful a nd origina l
. (JB)
(Alterna tive Tenta cles--P.O
. Box 1 1 458--S.F
., CA941 01 )
EFFIGIES - "For Ever Grounded" LP
On this a lbum, the EFFIGIES continue to develop musica lly,
though not everyone will view this development positively . The
ma teria l here is pretty diverse. Most of it ha s a post-punky
feel a nd empha sizes Ea rl's meta llic guita r pla ying ; only a few
songs a re in the tra ditiona l EFFIGIES vein ("Pa tternless",
"Ra ther See None", etc .). I persona lly prefer these la tter, but
the other cuts ha ve grown on me with repea ted listens
. (JB)
(Ruthless/Enigma --P.O. Box 2896--Torra nce, CA90509)
EVASIONS - "Son of Surf" LP
Surf instrumenta ls a re cool. Any ha rdcore musicia n who
wa nts to bra nch out a nd pla y something besides HM should
check out this type of music . The EVASIONS 1 4-song
semi-picture disc is pa rt of a growing 60's punk-style reviva l
movement. These guys write a lmost a ll of their own ma teria l,
unlike their better-known contempora ries like JON & THE
NIGHTRIDERS . Ba nza i! (Jel)
(Soif; conta ct P.O. Box 1 01 --1 958 Sunset Cliffs Blvd .--Ocea n
Bea ch, CA921 07)
EXOTIC HIPSTERS - "Surf on the Rocks" ca ssette
Aga ra gy ta pe from a ga ra gy ba nd
. There a re a couple of
instrumenta ls in the surf style, two other tunes tha t borrow
hea vily from 60's ga ra ge pop, a nd a biza rre cover of NO
ALTERNATIVE'S "Johnny Got his Gun", which they ma ke a lmost
unrecogniza ble
. (TY)
(207 First St
.--Sa n Ra fa el, CA94901 )
FACTION - "Corpse in Disguise" EP
"Corpse in Disguise" comes out a s a MISFITS-influenced tune
with a n unrefined rocky sound
. It's got a ll the ca tches a nd
hooks, but like most FACTION melodies it la cks something which
is ha rd to put the finger on
. The entire EP ha s a Meta l/Rock
fla vor, though the lyrics a re getting more intelligent with ea ch
relea se . The FACTION drive a powerful, energetic set live
; in
the studio, wha t emerges isn't usua lly the sa me
. Ayoung ba nd
tha t's bound to grow. (Pus)
(I.M
.--2349 Ca rlton Ave .--Sa n Jose, CA951 24)
FINALWARNING - "Out of Sight, Out of Mind
"
EP
Ma ximum exhibits of bruta l force zoom in turbulent
a ggression, a s this Portla nd-ba sed ba nd sa va gely grinds out a
storming spa sm
. Avibra nt, discha rging guita r sona nce drives
ra ucous melodies, swift a nd fluid, with meta llic decibels tha t
piledrive a crude inva sion of exhila ra ting iron licks
. Atight
new outfit with outra geous a ppea l, so don't pa ss this one up.
(Pus)
(Fa ta l Erection--21 1 0 N
.E. 1 3th, Apt
. E--Portla nd, OR 9721 2)
FISH KARMA- "To Hell with Love . . .
." ca ssette
Fina lly, a n heir-a ppa rent to the DRIVING STUPID! Wha t is it
a bout Arizona tha t crea tes such wa rped people? Their music is
your ba sic FUGS-style electric grunge-folk, a nd their lyrics
fea ture some of the mea nest put-downs of America n consumer
culture tha t I've hea rd in yea rs
. Includes "God is a Groovy
Guy", "Pieces of my Poodle", a nd "Cow of my Drea ms"
. (Jel)
(c/o Al Perry--733 E
. Pa stime #A--Tucson, AZ 8571 9)
FLAG OF DEMOCRACY - "Love Songs" EP
An incredibly intense thra sh bla st from F.O.D. The guita r
buzz is piercing, the overa ll instrumenta l a tta ck is ultra -tight,
a nd the Bia fra esque voca ls a re exceptiona lly demented . Along
with D.R .I., GANG GREEN, WHITE CROSS, a nd a few others,
these guys lea ve the rest of America 's current thra sh ba nds
spinning their wheels in deep ruts. (JB)
(S .eed of Sound--P.O. Box 1 61 1 7--Phila delphia , PA1 91 1 4-01 1 7)
JOHNNY FOREVER - "Rock the Cemeta ry/Youth Drug"
This is wha t ha ppens when ga ra ge rock 'n' rollers try to
ma ke a post-punk record, a nd I'm not sure whether I like it or
not
. The flip is more stra ighta hea d, so it could a ppea l to closet
Jeff Ba le types. (Jel)
(Liver
; no a ddress)
GONE-HEADS - "6 La me Songs" ca ssette
They cla im to be some former GRIM REALITY members, but
I'm pretty sure Jello slipped in some ra re ea rly HALF
JAPANESE ta pe to fool me
. It ha s tha t tota lly primitive, ra w,
a nd untogether feel
. . .
.tha t "we suck a nd we don't ca re"
a ttitude . Bonkers. (TY)
(761 wnIhrnnk
PI.--Sunnyva le, CA94087)
G .R .I
.M. - "
Getting Revenge in
'
Merica " 1 2" EP
Living up to their na me, the G
.R
.I.M
. produce some very
down a nd depressing stuff
. Their da rk outlook is projected by
slowish Meta l-la den punk a nd a n occa siona l thra sher, a s well a s
n
ega tive-outlook lyrics
. I guess they're bummed out
. (TY)
(Mystic--6277
Selm
a --Hollywood ,
CA90028)
H
ONEYMOON KILLERS - "Uncut! Uncensored!" ca ssette
Ascreeching pet rock cousin to New York's current school
of a
va nt-noise ba nds
. The difference here is their fondness for
tra shing 50's sta nda rds
. "Who Do You Love" a nd "Uba ngi
Stomp" ha ve never been a bused quite like this before
. Nice
pa cka ging
,
too
. (Jel)
(534 E
. 6th St
., ba s
ement--N
.Y. ,
NY 1 0009)
HUSKER DU - "Zen Arca de" double LP
Atota lly impressive relea se! Most ba nds ha ve a ha rd enough
time putting out a single a lbum without filler, but these guys
ha ve ma na ged to fill a ll four sides here with ca tchy, powerful,
a nd musica l songs. ..
. rea l songs
. The singing wa ils, the
Orienta l psych guita rs shine, a nd the rhythm crunches
. It a lso
sounds a s if they've been listening to the psychedelic-period
BYRDS la tely, beca use there a re a few reversed tra cks for
instrumenta l ba ckground included
. Tremendous! (TY)
(SST--P.O
. Box 1 --La wnda le, CA90260)
IDLE WORSHIP - "Now I Know" ca ssette
From a voca l sta ndpoint, this is like a ra wer version of
ea rly PERE UBU
. . .
.or ma ybe CAPTAIN BEEFHEART
. Otherwise,
IDLE WORSHIP ha ve a goofy sort of stra ight-a hea d ga ra ge
a tta ck . (TY)
(Rick Lewis--204 W
. 4th--Olympia , WA98502)
KAOS - "Adding Insult to Injury" ca ssette
There's quite a lot of va riety to this ga ra ge ba nd (outside of
the overused na me)
. The songs sometimes ha ve rea l nea t hooks,
a nd a re enha nced by quirky things like ha rmonica s! Interesting
topics, too. (TY)
(1 261 E
. Tunis--Pensa cola , FL32503)
LEFT- "Hell, It's the World" 1 2" EP
The best ba nd on Bona Fide's "Tra in to Disa ster" a lbum
returns with their own 1 2" relea se . "You're So" wa s a distorted
60's punk bla st, but here they merge elements from 70's a nd
80's punk in a n extremely effective wa y . The production is
crude enough to highlight their ga ra ge tendencies, a nd the
songs a re both powerful a nd origina l . Asure winner . (JB)
(Bona Fide--P.O. Box 1 80--Red Lion, PA1 7356)
M.D.C
. - "Chicken Squa wk" EP
M.D.C
. deliver a funnypunk cla ssic in "Chicken Squa wk",
a n uproa rious C & W thra sh tune which belies a more serious
a rgument for vegeta ria nism--it even ha s ba njo lea d brea ks! On
the flip, "Kleptoma nia c"
ra tes a s a strong, ca tchy thra sher,
a lthough "Dea th of a Nun" suffers from la ckluster performa nce
a nd production va lues
. Ama nda tory EP, however, a nd the
fold-out sleeve is extremely interesting a nd informa tive
. (SS)
(R Ra dica l--2440 1 6th St
. #1 03--Sa n Fra ncisco, CA941 03)
MASSACRE GUYS - "Behind the 8 Ba ll" EP
I wa s a nticipa ting a ja zzier sound from these Uta ha ns, but
this stra ngely-produced EP conta ins fa st thra sh with periodic,
unexpected stops a nd sta rts a nd fluid instrumenta tion . The
lyrics a re politica l but not simplistic, a nd some of these songs
ha ve a distinctive, ha rd-to-define qua lity . (JB)
(Toxic Shock--Box 242--Pomona , CA91 769)
MIGHTY SPHINCTER - "Hea thouse" EP
Phoenix, Arizona , the depra ved city tha t ga ve us ALICE
COOPER, the FEEDERZ, a nd the MEATPUPPETS, ha s struck
a ga in
. Wha t crosses a re to va mpires, SPHINCTER a re to music.
Even some BUTTHOLE SURFER fa ns would ga g in horror a t the
sight of this ba nd . Their sound is a bit more pet-Meta l tha n
punk, kind of like CHRISTIAN DEATH a nd VENOM pla yed
ba ckwa rds through a jet engine
. (Jel)
(Pla cebo--P.O. Box 2331 6--Phoenix, AZ 85035)
MIRACLE WORKERS - "Hung Up" EP
This is the first solo effort by one of the outsta nding ba nds
on The Rebel Kind" a nd "Ba ttle of the Ga ra ges, Vol
. 2"
sa mplers
. Aga in, they come up with some fuzzed-out ja ms with
belligerent voca ls a nd psychedelic effects
. I only wish they'd do
more origina ls a nd less covers (here, songs by the SONICS a nd
the 1 3TH FLOOR ELEVATORS) . (JB)
(Moxie--761 W
. "N" St.--Springfield, OR 97477)
MISSION - "The La st Deta il" 1 2" EP
Aha unting, evoca tive 60's-influenced ba nd with loud, qua si-
psychedelic guita rs a nd voca ls occa siona lly reminiscent of the
ONLY ONES' Peter Pa rrett. Most of their songs a re ha rd-edged
a nd a tmospheric--like the distinctive version of "Steppin'
Stone"--but MISSION sometimes "rock out" too much (a s in
"Wha t Goes Around" a nd "The Girl Next Door"). Worth listening
to . (JB)
(Fra ntic--1 2504 Killia n La ne--Bowie, MD 2071 5)
MONEY DOGS - "Sa lute to America . . . ." ca ssette
The MONEY DOGS pla y good modern semi-thra shers . The
distinguishing fea tures here a re some gna rly guita r frills,
better-tha n-a vera ge lyrics, a nd ra ther a nnoying voca ls . (JB)
($3 to --600 1 0th Ave #4RS--NY, NY 1 0036)
N .O.T.A. - "Moscow" EP
Along overdue vinyl relea se from these Sooners, one tha t
fully demonstra tes their power a nd punch . This is a 4-songer
with fa st a nd medium thra sh, a ll of which hits you right in the
gut. Let there be more! (TY)
(Unclea n Ea st P .O. Box 725--Sa nd Springs, OK 74063)
NEGATIVE TREND - "Mercena ries" 1 2" EP
NEGATIVE TREND were one of the most exciting ba nds to
emerge from the ea rly SF punk rock scene
. This is a re-issue
of their 7" EP from 1 978, a nd the music is a s intense a nd
immedia te toda y a s it wa s then . NEGATIVE TREND were more
tha n just a ba nd--they were a different wa y of seeing things, a
mirror to the bruta lity of everyda y life, a nd a vision of wha t
could be . Every budding young rebel should do their homework
a nd check this record out. (Debbie Dub)
(Subterra nea n--577 Va lencia --S .F ., CA941 1 0)
NEON CHRIST- "Pa renta l Suppression" EP
Snotty teena ge thra sh with a crea tive spa rk . Some of the
guita r intros a re rea l unusua l (a s in "Pa renta l Suppression" a nd
"It's Mine"), the voca list ha s a grea t youthful sneer, a nd the
overa ll feeling is exubera nt a nd innocent
. "After" is a
pa rticula rly unique a nd a tmospheric post-holoca ust number
which ca ptures NEON CHRIST's ha rd-to-define fla re. (JB)
(Socia l Crisis--641 E. Morningside Dr . N.E.--Atla nta , GA
30324)
The NOTproduce six more exa mples of their JAM-oriented
ma teria l on their debut vinyl
. In some ca ses, tha t a pproa ch
doesn't work too well (a s in the overly rockish "In Trouble"
a nd the slow "World Wa r"), but elsewhere their clea n guita rs,
bouncy rhythms, a nd Wellerish voca ls combine in a n enga ging
wa y . If they'd only a bsorb some influences from the JOLT--a 78
"mod" group with more explosive energy a nd guita r power tha n
the JAM--they'd rea lly turn some hea ds
. (JB)
More high-powered thra sh from the OFFENDERS
. This time,
they've ma na ged to ca pture a n incredible guita r sound, one tha t
reminds me of HUSKER DU's
. "I Ha te Myself" just ca reens right
a long, wherea s "Ba d Times" ha s a slow, lengthy, ha lf-spoken
intro. Ace. (JB)
Ra bid--Box 49263--Austin, TX
78765)
OMLITS - "My Na me is Ha rold" ca ssette
An historic retrospective of this ba nd's work, recorded
between 6-81 a nd 1 -82
. The production is pretty crude, but
their thra sh is both fun a nd a hea d of its time
. (TY)
(328 N. West St
.--Ana heim, CA92801 )
OUTTAPLACE - "We're Outta Pla ce" 1 2" EP
Yea h! New York's "ca ve teens" return with a nother ra w 60's
punk a tta ck . Wha t ma kes them sta nd out isn't the ma teria l per
se--most of it consists of cover versions of old chestnuts--but
their growling, screa ming, trebly sound. And, they've got
enough snottiness to ca rry this primitive stuff off in the 80s,
unlike so ma ny of toda y's "reviva l" ba nds
. "Things a re
Different Now" a nd their "theme song" a re killers. (JB)
(Midnight--Box 390--Old Chelsea Stn .--N.Y ., NY 1 001 1 )
PANDORAS - "It's About Time" LP
After their grea t debut EP, I wa s a fra id the ensuing a lbum
would wimp out, a s often ha ppens with this 60's "teen punk"
genre . No wa y! Wha t we get a re twelve killer songs, ra nging
from folk-rock to sna rling 67-era punk, a ll delivered with guts
a nd drive
. The music is tight a nd ra unchy like tha t of their
heroes the SHADOWS OF KNIGHT, a nd it's ha rd to believe tha t
a ll the members a re fema le, beca use the voca ls ha ve such a
deep, gruff sneer . Fucking excellent. (TY)
(Voxx--2702 Sa n Ferna ndo Rd
.--L.A., CA90065)
CHARLIE PICKETT& THE EGGS - "Cowboy Junkie
. ." 1 2" EP
Most of the five songs here a re well-produced C & W ditties
with a good bea t a nd punch, sort of like a combina tion of RANK
& FILE a nd LOU REED
. But one tra ck ("Ma rlboro Country " ) is
more R & Bish, with a grea t "Louie Louie" bea t a nd some tough
guita r, ma king the whole effort worthwhile . (TY)
($3.50 to Open--44 N.W. 1 67th St.--Mia mi, FL331 69)
PLAIN WRAP - "Time to Cha nge" ca ssette
Another very hot ta pe
from this fine So Ca l ba nd. Intelligent
lyrics a nd bla zingly fa st thra sh tha t's tight, clea nly recorded,
a nd filled with good hooks a nd some nea t voca l work
. Some of
these songs a re new, while others a re re-done versions of
ma teria l from their ea rlier ca ssette
. These guys should put out
a record a s soon a s possible
. (TY)
(6531 Abbott Dr
.--Huntington Bea ch, CA92647)
PLAN 9 - "Dea ling with the Dea d" 1 2" EP
While PLAN 9 a re much better tha n the bulk of toda y
's
lightweight 60's reviva l groups, they don't touch certa in Other
outfits in terms of snotty voca ls (the OUTTAPLACE, the
CHESTERFIELD KINGS) or ra w guita r power (the NOMADS)
. I
find the la tter inexplica ble, since they ha ve five guita rs! In
a ny ca se, they write some strong songs a nd ha ve a n
a tmospheric orga n, but everything is just too
professiona l-sounding to evoke rea l teena ge a ngst. (JB)
(Midnite)
PUKES - "Fa st Food" ca ssette
Some rea l tra shy ga ra ge punk ca n be found here, the
musica l equiva lent of the ta pe
'
s title, but the themes a re
somewha t serious
. Need I go on? (TY)
($3 to Weegie--300 Eliseo Dr
.--Greenbra e, CA94904)
RHYTHM PIGS - "Boring Orgy" ca ssette
An extremely hot "live" ta pe tha t demonstra tes why so ma ny
people ha ve ra ved a bout these guys. It's highly-energized a nd
even thra shy a t times, but a lwa ys innova tive, tight, a nd
powerful. And they found a good use for Fa lwell's propa ga nda
ta pes! (TY)
(Box 627--Clint, TX 79836)
PAINTED WILLIE - "Kill It" EP
Agoofy ga ra ge punk effort from some ex-members of SIN
34
. The tempos a re medium-speed, the guita rs a re crude, the
themes a re seriocomic, a nd the voca ls a re rough a nd
semi-psychotic
. Enterta ining, but not outsta nding . (JB)
(Spinhea d--2265 Westwood Blvd ., #541 --L.A., CA90064)
PANDORAS - "I'm Here, I'm Gone" EP
Asuper hot 60's-style punk relea se by a hitherto unknown
fema le ba nd . The fuzzy, distorted guita rs a nd crude orga n a re
empha sized in shrieking ra ve-ups like "I'm Here, I'm Gone",
a nd even their "mellow" folk-rock cut ("It's About Time") ha s
tha t ra unchy teena ge snot- nosed qua lity tha t sepa ra tes the
punks from the ca lcula ted poseurs
. Plus, , they do a da mn good
cover of the DIRTY WURDS' "Why", no mea n fea t. (JB)
(Moxie
; write to 1 2428 Fa rndon PI .--Chino, CA91 71 0)
OFFENDERS - "I Ha te Myself/Ba d Times"
SMASHCHORDS - "The History of. . . ." ca ssette
The SMASHCHORDS a re a n unusua l instrumenta l combo--just
two guita rs--who knock out some ba sic rock 'n' roll tunes.
While this ta pe is certa inly unique, it's a lso a bit frustra ting,
since their ca tchy rhythms ma ke you hope they'll cut loose in a
rea l sa va ge wa y
. But they ca n't, beca use they've got to keep
providing the rhythm section--the Pete Townsend syndrome.
(TY)
(8520 1 st N.E
.--Sea ttle WA981 1 5)
SACCHARINE TRUST- "Surviving You, Alwa ys" LP
S
. TRUST's new a lbum ha s a n a rtistic a pproa ch tha t reminds
ma ny of the MINUTEMEN, a lthough they seem even more
demented a nd experimenta l. It exhibits a ma rked unevenness
from cut to cut-- the fa ster rockers (like "The Giver Ta kes"
a nd the wonderfully scra tchy "Cra ving the Center") a dd a level
of a ccessibility to the proceedings, but a number of the slower,
a rtier pieces (such a s "The Ca t Cra cker" a nd "Our Discovery")
don't ta ke long to become tedious
. (SS)
(SST--Box 1 --La wnda le, CA90260)
SPECIALFORCES - "World Domina tion" LP
Aba sic thra sh a lbum by a newer Berkeley ba nd
. It fea tures
a very tight instrumenta l a tta ck, some ca tchy multi-voice
choruses, a nti-esta blishment lyrics, a nd sta nda rd gruff singing.
The ma in problem here is a genera l la ck of musica l va ria tion,
something which will no doubt be overcome with time
. Fun with
beer . (JB)
(Boner--21 46 Boner St
.--Berkeley, CA94702)
ST. JOHN'S ALLIANCE - "Ma rk My Word/No One Sees"
The press kit tha t ca me with this 45 touted the ba nd a s the
"hea rtbea t of young America toda y" a nd the most exciting
record to pa ss through my ha nds
. . . .bla h, bla h, which a lmost
ma de me throw it in the tra sh compa ctor
. But then I decided to
listen to it, a nd found two 60's- oriented folkish pop songs with
occa siona l BEATLEish voca l inflections a nd a trebly BYRDSia n
guita r
. Adecent record, but nothing extra ordina ry . (JB)
(Allia nce--1 29 South 1 6th St
.--Allentown, PA1 81 02)
STRANGLEHOLD - "'Ca use I'm Gonna " 1 2" EP
Strong, crisply-produced modern ha rdcore is showca sed on
STRANGLEHOLD'S debut relea se . Their overa ll
a pproa ch--including sung, 60's-inflected voca ls, irrepressible
tunes, tight instrumenta tion, a nd boisterous but controlled
delivery--reminds me a bit of the grea t ZERO BOYS, which
ca n't be a ba d thing . "'Ca use I'm Gonna " is a n epic bla st with
a n a nthemic chorus . (JB)
(One-Step--321 Huron Ave.--Ca mbridge, MA021 38)
7 SECONDS - "The Crew" LP
Ya a a a a hhhhh!! Not since those hot MINOR THREATrelea ses
ha s a record displa yed so much cha rm tha t you become a n a lley
ca t howling a t the moon in sheer excited plea sure . Well-pa ced
melodies a nd singa long ha rmonies sha rply deliver 7 SECONDS to
the forefront of energetic fun, a nd a qua lity production rea lly
a dds credit to the Bra ndt brothers' tota l dedica tion . Kevin's
songwriting a nd impelling voca ls yodel the giga ntic brillia nce,
while younger bro Steve plucks out the ba ss with ra mbunctious
might, a nd the rest of the ba nd knocks out a nother superior
performa nce . This one's stuck on my turnta ble . (Pus)
(B.Y .O.--P.O. Box 67A64--L.A., CA90067)
TOOTHPASTE - "Pa lestine" 1 2" EP
Ra w, brillia nt pop in the ea rly EMBARASSMENT
's ba llpa rk.
TOOTHPASTE's music shifts between fuzzy, guita r-oriented
bla sts (like "Amerika n Bea uties" a nd "Skinhea ds a re O.K
.") a nd
unpredicta ble but genera lly enga ging a ma lga ms of funk, punk,
pop, a nd post-punk
. The lyrics a re often both exceptiona lly
clever a nd politica lly motiva ted (note "Pa lestine" a nd the live
unlisted tra ck, "R .M.N
. is Better tha n Sex"). (JB)
(Schwa --806 N. Peoria , Ste
. 3000--Chica go, IL60622)
SHOCKABILLY - "Colosseum" LP
The new SHOCKABILLY fa re isn't a s a ccessible a s their
ea rlier stuff, which wa s more R & B-oriented . They a re either
returning to the ea rly da ys of the MOTHERS OF INVENTION or
doing lots of LSD. They do everything from "frea k outs" to
DOORS' a cid ja ms to sweet southern ba lla ds to a wild version of
"Homewa rd Bound" (God forbid!) to songs with a fuzzed-out
guita r a nd Eugene trying to blow his nose. Wh000a a a . . . . (RS)
(Rough Tra de)
TOWER OF SWINE - "Pig of Ana rchy" ca ssette
This 1 2" gives TRAGIC MULATTO more room to be weird
tha n their ea rlier single
. It sounds like physica lly-disa bled
persons a ttempting to pla y ja zz, blind people pla ying from sheet
music, or some self- indulgent a rtists with sa xophones. But
since most of it ha s a ha rd, stea dy bea t a nd a melodic
guita r--not to mention peculia r lyrics-- it's tolera ble a nd
interesting for other weird-a sses like myself. Likea ble in short
doses . (RS)
(Alterna tive Tenta cles--P
.O. Box 1 1 458--S.F., CA941 01 )
Fine ga ra ge punk from the S.F. Ba y a rea . The guita rs a re
ra unchy, the singer is a sma rt-a leck, a nd the themes a re often
sa tirica l. Songs like "Fa lla tio Sucks, It's for Dicks" a re rea l
knee-sla ppers, wherea s others (like "Senior Citizen") a re more
sensitive a nd releva nt
. (JB)
(T.O.S.--1 363 Bittern--Sunn va le, CA94087)
TRAGIC MULATTO - "Judo for the Blind" 1 2" EP
ROK TOTS - "Situa tion Kid/Suicide Weekend"
Mix 60's-la ced pop-rock melodies with contempora ry punk
production va lues, a nd you'll get a n idea of how cool "Situa tion
Kid" is. The B-side is a n even better stra ightforwa rd ga ra ge
punk number with some bla sting guita r pa rts. An a ppea ling
debut. (JB)
(U.X.B.--P.O. Box 1 1 0024--Aurora , CO 8001 1 )
STALAG 1 3 - "In Control" 1 2" EP
STALAG 1 3 demonstra te a sleek, clea n thra sh a tta ck with
occa siona l meta llic lea d brea ks which reminds me of SUICIDAL
TENDENCIES, a nd their songs dea l thema tica lly with teena ge
identity a nd rebellion. "Bla ck Stix/Silver Ba dge" is a chilling
thra sh number, a nd the unexpected cha nges of pa ce in "The
Choice is Yours" ma ke for solid, inventive ha rdcore.
Recommended . (SS)
(Upsta rt--1 1 34 Homeda le St
.--L.A., CA90049)
TOEJAM - ca ssette
TOEJAM let loose a meta l-punk bla st with lots of noise a nd
echoey, gruff, sometimes distorted voca ls
. Alot of the tra cks
here a re too Meta lish for me (including guita r solos, etc
.), but
there is power to spa re . (TY)
(Jeff DeCuir--501 4 Arboa Ridge--Sa n Antonio, TX 78226)
76% UNCERTAIN - LP
Former members of C
.I.A. a nd REFLEX FROM PAIN combine
to form a new ba nd with a sound tha t reminds me somewha t of
DIE KREUZEN. Bones' voca ls a re intense a nd ba cked up by a
very tight sort of medium- pa ced thra sh tha t's delivered with
power a nd hooks
. Definitely recommended . (TY)
(Shmegma --556 Broa dwa y, 2nd floor--Bridgeport, CT
06606)
SIC KIDZ - "I Could Go to Hell for You"
1 2" EP
The SIC KIDZ a re a Phila delphia -a rea ba nd who've been
a round for a while a nd, despite dea ths a nd other obsta cles, ha ve
fina lly ma na ged to a ttra ct the a ttention of a n English specia lty
la bel, perha ps with the help of the CRAMPS
. Their sound is
indeed hea vily-influenced by the la tter, though it expa nds from
a na rrow psychobilly ba se into the 60s for inspira tion
. So if
you like na sty, ringing guita rs a nd echoey singing, give this a
listen . (JB)
(Big Bea t)
SLAUGHTER HOUSE 4 - "Four More Hours" EP
A6-song effort tha t reminds me somewha t of '78-era stuff,
in tha t it incorpora tes funk a nd pop elements into a punky
a esthetic . It's fa irly a ggressive, with biting socia l commenta ry
a nd a fema le voca list on some tra cks . (TY)
(R .I .F .--1 01 6 E. 1 2th St.--Austin, TX 78702)
URGE OVERKILL- "Portion Controlled" ca ssette
A3-song demo. There a re two lengthy songs (including a
cover of the ZOMBIES' "She 's Not There") with funky rhythms,
post-punk voca ls, a nd instrumenta l overla ys
; the fina l tra ck
("Lympdiccus") is a rocka billyish tha ng with simila r "cold wa ve"
voca ls . (TY)
(2002 Pra tt Ct.--Eva nston, IL60201 )
SPANKY PICASSO HEAD - "The Fa rm" ca ssette
Ga ra ge-qua lity noise meets folk-rock meets older-style punk
meets experimenta tion . For the a dventurous or simply
disturbed. (TY)
(The Fa rm--P.O. Box 951 23--Sea ttle, WA981 45)
ei
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Ba ck from the Gra ve, vol. 3" LP
Among the ma ny 60's reissue series, "Ba ck from the Gra ve"
ha s been the best beca use of its focus on the sna rling teena ge
punk ema na ting from suburba n ga ra ges a ll a cross America
between 1 965 a nd 1 967. And fortuna tely, volume 3 ma inta ins
this tra dition of ba sement qua lity by presenting more of the
most hea rtfelt a dolescent ra nts a bout problems with gurls,
gurls, a nd more gurls, a ccompa nied by two-chord fuzz guita rs,
squea ling orga ns, a nd ha m-fisted drum bea ts . The obscure
pea rls by KEN & THE 4th DIMENSION, SIR WINSTON &
COMMONS, a nd MURPHY & THE MOB a re just a s cool a s they
ca n be . (JB)
(Crypt--Box 91 51 --Morristown, NJ 07960)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Compostpilea ction" ca ssette
This ta pe ha s a lot of hot ma teria l by the likes of MOX NIX,
CANCEROUS GROWTH, ROSEMARY'S BABIES, S
.U.M., NERVE,
N .O.T.A
., the LEPERS, HUMAN SUFFERAGE, the
CATATONICS, PSYCHO, a nd a ha lf-dozen more
. Some of it ha s
been previously relea sed, but it still a dds up to fine listening.
(TY)
(Action--P
.O. Box 57--Kenmore Stn
.--Boston, MA0221 5)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Inner Mystique" EP
The first "Pebbles"-type collection of lost ga ra ge/psych
ba nds from the 70s a nd 80s
. Compiled by the RATRACE KID,
it fea tures unrelea sed tra cks by BILLY SYNTH a nd Austra lia 's
LIPSTICK KILLERS
. The icing on the ca ke is the first-ever
vinyl a ppea ra nce by ROCKETFROM THE TOMBS, a semina l
mid-70s Clevela nd outfit tha t would la ter spa wn PERE UBU a nd
the DEAD BOYS
. (Jel)
(Kevin Ka t--P
.O. Box 7258--Corpus Christi, TX 7841 5)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "This is the Centra l Coa st, Da mmit" LP
Adecent regiona l compila tion from the Ca lifornia coa st
between S.F. a nd L.A., very nea r the geologica lly-unsta ble
a rea where PG&E ha s stupidly built its Dia blo Ca nyon nuclea r
pla nt. The a lbum includes va rious ca tegories of contempora ry
music, from ca tchy teena ge thra sh (LOS CREMATORS, DEATH
OF GLORY, a nd the CORRUPTORS) to ga ra ge punk (GROUP
SEX, X-TORTION) to neo-psychedelia (PYRAMOD, MOOD
ROOM) to 77 punk (the USERS) to Finnish-style thra sh
(ASSAULT) to ga ra gy mixtures of thra sh a nd punk (the WIMPY
DICKS a nd PEDESTRIAN ABUSE). The overa ll feeling is
a ppea lingly unprofessiona l, a nd the idea of giving new groups
exposure is worthy of support. (JB)
(Bopp 'n' Skin ; dist. by Systema tic)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Mutopia " ca ssette
Agenera lly excellent sa mpler of northern Virginia ha rdcore,
Meta l, experimenta l, a nd 60's-inspired groups . Its a
well-recorded, non-profit project which conta ins ba nd ha ndouts
by #1 PRIORITY, PUDWAK, MALEFICE, the STEELKNICKERS,
DEATH PIGGY, CONCENTRIC, MICHAEL, CAMP DAVID, YOM,
a nd .007
. Most of the ma teria l on side 1 is powerful a nd
ca tchy, a nd PUDWAK's "Box Hea d" is a tota l cla ssic with
schizoid voca ls. (JB)
($2
.50 to DSI--Box 346--Dunn Loring, VA22027)
WEDDINGS DONE CHEAP - "Specia l Occa sion " ca ssette
Asomewha t ga ra gy production which, in this ca se, doesn't
a dd cha rm to the ba nd's sound
. But in a studio, their spa rse
a tta ck could be filled in nicely, a nd some of the ta sty guita r
a nd ba ss tricks would sound rea lly cool (like those in
"Resista nce" a nd "Un-America n"). There
's potentia l here. (TY)
($2.50 to M. Wa rren--55 Brookley Rd
. #3R--Ja ma ica Pla ins, MA
021 30)
WINDBREAKERS - "Any Monkey with a Typewriter" 1 2" EP
This 1 2" from Mississipi's WINDBREAKERS is va stly better
tha n their debut 7" EP, ma inly due to the presence of somewha t
zippier ma teria l a nd louder guita rs . They're still a ttempting to
mine the folky 60's pop vein, a nd ha ve fina lly ma na ged to
jettison the more tedious Rock influences tha t ma rred their
ea rlier effort. Pretty good, especia lly "Ya Gotta Go Awa y".
(JB)
(Big Monkey--P.O. Box 31 21 7--Ja ckson, MS 3921 7)
ZANY GUYS - "Pa rty Hits Vol
. II" EP
Avery clever Phoenix ba nd tha t mixes a couple of ga ra gy
thra sh tunes ("Little Tuff Kid" a nd "Mr
. Ackers") with a
slower boppin' tha ng ("Pa perboy Blue") a nd a n a bsolutely
hila rious country-punk sa tire ("Ha rdcore")
. The la tter is one of
the yea r's outsta nding funnypunk crea tions, a nd the whole EP
will tickle your funnybone
. Order it toda y
. (JB)
(Pla cebo)
ZERO BOYS - "History of
. . . ." ca ssette
Sixteen cla ssy ZERO BOYS songs
. Afew ha ve a lrea dy
a ppea red on their superb a lbum, but the rest a re hitherto
unrelea sed gems tha t revea l why this ba nd should be ra ted
right up there with the CIRCLE JERKS a s prime exponents of
brisk, hook-la den thra sh a nd punk . Excellent. (TY)
(Affirmation- - P.O. Box 3 025 3 - - Indianapolis,
IN 46220)
U.K.
U.K. U.K. U.K. U.K. U.K. U.K.
U.K. U.K.
ATTILATHE STOCKBROKER - "Sa wdust a nd Empire" LP
Astonishingly

origina l.

ATTILA's

la test

a lbum a da pts
Rena issa nce instrumenta tion to clever, sa tiric views of
contempora ry British life
. At times, the a ma lga m seems
tiresome, but some novel tra cks--the slow, moving title song,
the somewha t thra shier "Dies Ira e", with its exciting ma ndolin
work, a nd the hila rious "Boa dicea Uber Alles"-- ma ke the
record interesting enough to a ppea l to those with broa der ta ste.
(SS)
(Ana gra m)
CHAOTIC DISCHORD - "Don't Throw it All Awa y" 1 2" EP
I've cha nged my mind a bout the va lue of this ba nd a bout ten
times, so I've decided to give up trying to figure them out a nd
just let myself enjoy their powerful a nd funny music
. This 1 2"
ma y well be their best relea se yet
. Side 1 ha s some terrific
77-punk pa rodies a nd some fa mous guest'punks (Knox, Ca pta in
Sen*i*le), wherea s the flip ha s more of their roa ring, sa tirica l
thra shers . Grea t fun . (JB)
(Riot City- 1 4c La nsdown Pl
.--Clifton--Bristol 8--ENGLAND)
COMBAT84 - "Send in the Ma rines
"
LP
One side of studio a nd a nother of live cuts ca n be found on
this typica l-sounding British Oi relea se
. Some of the studio
ma teria l ha s previously a ppea red on 7" EPs, but a side from the
intriguing "Violence
"
, most of their medium-speed compositions
lea ve a lot to be desired
. The live side is pa rticula rly poor,
a nd the lyrics on a number of cuts a re ba ckwa rd
. Buy a t your
own risk
. (SS)
(Rock-O-Ra
ma )
CONFLICT- "Increa se the Pressure' LP
The A-side is sma shing--full of power, a nger, a nd
determina tion . Excellent stuff tha t's superbly produced! The
flipside is ta ken from a live performa nce; I ha ve a genera l
dislike for live recordings, a nd this one is no exception
. (TY)
(Morta rha te--P
.O. Box 448--Eltha m--London SE9--ENGLAND
DISCHARGE - "The More I See/Protest a nd Survive"
Yecch! "The More I See" of DISCHARGE, the more na useous
I become. Tha t song is unbelieva bly pa thetic--both the music
a nd the voca ls ha ve a full-out Meta l sound . The B-side, ta ken
T?tTm one of their ea rlier 1 2", demonstra tes just how much
they've declined over the yea rs
. Acomplete wa ste of vinyl.
(JB)
(Cla y)
DISORDER - "Under the Sca lple Bla de" LP
"Ma ke Homebrew, Not Wa r" serves a s the motto of the second
pummeling DISORDER 1 2" . And they must live by it, judging
from the production here, which is too weird a nd primitive to
ha ve been crea ted while sober
. Tha t's not a criticism, but a
sta tement of fa ct, a s fuzzy guita rs screa m out from toilet bowls,
drums a re hollow a nd loud a s shit, a nd trebly ba ss licks rumble
a round, a ll complementing DISORDER's a bsurd bra nd of
thra shing noise perfectly
. Drunk a nd disorderly . (JB)
(Disorder--47

Ha lla m

Rd .--Clevedon--Avon

B321
7SE--ENGLAND)
DISRUPTERS - "Bomb Hea ven" EP
Fa irly munda ne mid-tempo punk cha ra cterizes this new
DISRUPTERS relea se, except for one spoken piece ("Ma ke a
Ba by")
. The ba ss tends to ca rry the melodies, a nd there's a
pa rticula rly gruesome, thought-provoking ba ck cover, but
there's little else to comment on here . (JB)
(Ra dica l Cha nge--c/o Ba cks--3 Swa n La ne--Norwich--ENGLAND)
ENEMY - "La st but Not Lea st/Ima ges "
The ENEMY ha ve never ma na ged to genera te much
excitement, a nd this new 45 doesn't brea k with tra dition.
"La st. . .." is a fa irly boring Rock-oriented number with a dull
lea d a nd ma nnered voca ls
; the live flip isn't much better,
though it ha s a more piercing guita r tone . (JB)
(Rot)
IPSO FACTO - "Noir Dior/Cra ving"
This is definitely from the whiny Ba t Ca ve genre, but it ha s
tha t extra punch tha t few such ba nds ha ve. It' s ca tchy enough
to wa rra nt a review, but insipid enough to be ea sily
ca tegorized . "Cra ving" is the best cut, due to its KILLING
JOKE bea t. (RS)
(Ipso

Fa cto--1 09

Regent

Ct.--Bra dfield
Rd .--Sheffield--ENGLAND)
Apretty sna ppy relea se with lots of tuneful thra sh . This
Scottish a ggrega tion ha s some of the drive of ea rly DISCHARGE
(especia lly in the guita r sound), a nd some of the hooks of,
sa y, SOCIALUNREST. In my book, tha t's a da mn good
combina tion . (TY)
(Essentia l)
Aripping new English thra sh relea se (except for one slower
singa long ca lled "Sa va ges") with hot production, fla iling
guita rs, a nd a ccelera ted tempos . The voca ls a re in the more
tra ditiona l Britpunk vein a nd the stuttering drumming
occa siona lly doesn't mesh, but it's a bloody good record
a nywa y . The "No!" choruses ma ke "Eroded Freedom" a
mini-cla ssic . (JB)
(Fight Ba ck)
MAJOR ACCIDENT- "Respecta ble/Ma n on the Wa ll"
"Respecta ble" is just tha t--melodic a nd well-executed
mid-tempo pop-punk stuff
; the flip is a bit ca tchier a nd
zippier. Pretty decent
. (TV)
(Flicknife)
NULL& VOID - "Still. . .
. it Must Go On" EP
This ba nd fea tures members of U
.K. groups RUBELLA
BALLETa nd the MOB, a nd it ha s tha t type of tempera ment
. It
is folksy yet intense, a nd they a dd little tidbits like a pia no
solo a t the end of the first side
. I especia lly like the ca tchy
melodies a nd clea n, gra ting guita rs in "Ca mp", a nd the
well-done rhythmic poetry in
" Cold Wa r"
; the lyrics a re of
course strong a nd intelligent
. Recommended . (RS)
Not So Bra ve--Becola a n 26--1 050 Brussels--BELGIUM)
OUTRAGE - "The Phoenix" ca ssette
OUTRAGE pla y medium-tempo punk with quite a bit of
punch
. Their strong voca l a nd guita r work is highlighted by
the powerful production here, so wa tch for them
. (TY)
(Lee--52

Nea therborn

Rd
.--Monic

Wea r
M
outh--Sunderla nd--Tyne & Wea r--ENGLAND SR5 1 LF)
PARTISANS - "Time Wa s Right" LP
I've a lwa ys been pa rtia l to the unique punk stylings of the
PARTISANS, a nd their la test a lbum, which conta ins one side of
studio a nd one of live tra cks, is quite strong
. Most of the
studio ma teria l ha s a richly-a rra nged, dense rock 'n' roll
fla vor, but with a n a bra sive ha rdcore edge
. Their new version
of "I Never Needed You" is much more ra w a nd powerful, a nd
the mea ty, mid-tempo pop- punk title tra ck is surely the best.
The live songs a re a lso excellently recorded
. (SS)
(Cloa k & Da gger)
PETER & THE TESTTUBE BABIES/FITS - split 1 2"
The P&TTB tra ck, re-mixed from their second a lbum, boa sts
some grea t production va lues a nd inventive guita r figures, but
still seems a bit uninspired
. On the other ha nd, I found the
FITS tra ck a t lea st modera tely a ppea ling, with its ca tchy guita r
riffing a nd melodies
. Nothing specia l, though by no mea ns
offensive
. (SS)
(Tra pper--39/43 Wha rfda le Rd
.--London N1 9NB--ENGLAND)
PRIMEVALS - "Where a re You/This Kind of Love"
If this 45 is representa tive, the PRIMEVALS a re Scotla nd's
a nswer to the ea rly FLESHTONES
. Both of these tra cks ha ve
tha t upbea t 60's sound, with fa ke tough voca ls, rockin' bea ts,
semi-fuzz guita r pa rts (in "This Kind of Love"), or ca tchy
"hey" ba ckground voca ls (in "Where a re You")
. Agrea t little
debut. (JB)
(Ra ucous--46 Beuhuck St
.--Gla sgow--SCOTLAND)
RATPATROL- "The La st Offensive/Ra t Ra p"
This looks like a typica l punk record, but it's not. Wha t it
is is a fusion of politica l punk sentiments a nd bla ck musica l
influences. "The La st Offensive" is a clever ditty with a
regga eish bea t, a stea dy build-up, a nd some interesting guita r
work ; the flip is a ra ther la me ra p number . RATPATROLa re
now known a s WESTWAY, perha ps for commercia l a ccepta bility.
(JB)
($4

to

Sijenn--c/o

P.

Hulme--8

Stoke

Hill
Crescent--Exeter--Devon EX4 7DE--ENGLAND)
SID PRESLEY EXPERIENCE - "Public Enemy #1 /Hup 2, 3, 4"
A60's-style guita r ba nd from Brita in
. Both songs here ha ve
rocking bea ts, hea vy guita rs, a nd irresista ble riffs
. "Public
Enemy #1 " is a n instrumenta l, wherea s the flip ha s
tough-sounding voca ls
. SID & Co
. ha ve some musica l guts
. (JB)
(I D.)
SQUARE PEG - "Echoes of Wa r" EP
Arock-oriented punk record by ex-EXPLOITED guita rist Big
John's new ba nd
. The title song is a slow but ca tchy little ditty
with some ta steful guita r pla ying a nd a nti-wa r lyrics
; the flip
conta ins one good semi-pop number ("Ba d Connection
" ) a nd one
a wful pub rock song ("No Expla na tion
" ). (JB)
(Stra nded)
STINGRAYS - "Dinosa urs" LP
Stra nge
. The STINGRAYS look rocka billy, a ct punk, a nd
sound more 60s tha n a nything else (note their covers of the
REMAINS'
"Ha rd Time Comin'" a nd LOVE'
s "My Fla sh on You").
Actua lly, they a re a rocka billy ba nd in the instrumenta l sense,
with their sla pped ba ss, sna re drum, guita r, a nd echoey
voca ls, but the ma teria l is more modern
. Tota lly ungeneric.
(TY)
(Big Bea t--1 32-4 Gra fton Rd
.--London NW5--ENGLAND)
The EYES a re a British 60's group a long the lines of the
ea rly WHO-- Mod to the ma x--who never did ma na ge to put out
a n a lbum ba ck then
. And now the rea son becomes clea rer, a s
this one conta ins too much filler . But there a re a few killers,
including the ha unting "When the Night Fa lls" a nd the hila rious
"My Degenera tion" . (TY)
(Da m-Ca ruso)
LEGION OF PARASITES - "Undesira ble Guests
" 1 2" EP
LASTRITES - "This Is the Rea ction " LP
SATURNALIA- "Inside the Devil's Circle/The Promise"
I pa ssed this up for a ges beca use I thought it wa s a reissue
of a British 60's ba nd . But no, this goes wa y beyond most pa st
a nd present psych outings into the uncha rted rea lms of
ha mmering a coustic guita rs, ca ve-echo voca ls, a nd just the
right sprinkle of tinking pia no
. Add sa x to the B-side for a
ta ste of the best of John Berry's spy movie soundtra cks, a nd
you end up with something truly spooky . (Jel)
(Burning

Worlds--42

King

St.--Leek--Sta ffs

ST1 3
5NW--ENGLAND)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "The Anima l Pa cket" ca ssette
The ca ssette itself is only a sma ll pa rt of this pa cka ge,
which includes 'zines, litera ture, lyrics, pa mphlets, a ddresses,
etc., a ll rela ting to the horrors of a nima l sla ughter . Even on
the ta pe, a ll the tra cks by the va rious ba nds (the
INSTIGATORS, CHUMBAWAMBA, ANTIDOTE, ALTERNATIVE,
ANDY T, a nd the LOSTCHERREES, to na me just a few) a re
interspersed with bits of informa tion on this topic.
Unfortuna tely, there's very little punk music here; folkish a nd
experimenta l stuff predomina tes. (TY)
($5

to

Sky

&

Trees--Box

4--59

Cookridge
St.--Leeds--ENGLAND)
WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD
ANTI-CIMEX - "Victims of a Bomb Ra id" EP
Ferocious speed thra sh tha t continua lly displa ys tha t
disorderly ea rly DISCHARGE a tta ck, but is sma shed forth much
fa ster
. Ha rdcore guita r soloing whines genera te electrica l volts,
a s ANTI-CIMEX spew out a n intense onsla ught of cla morous
nitro-la ced a ggression
. Jonsson voca ls get ra wer with ea ch
relea se. ANTI-CIMEX, the kings of cha os in Sweden
. (Pus)
(Ma lign

Ma ssa cre--Somma rva dersga ta n

58--41 7

33
Goteborg--SWEDEN)
AVSKUM - "Crucified by the System" EP
Another boiling speed-mercha nt ba nd in the tra dition of
ANTI- CIMEX, right down to the guita r solos
. Ma nia c sna rls
overbite into bruta l distortion a nd missiling quickness, which
belts this ha mmering ha voc into a forceful bomba rdment of
cha otic punches
. Grea t, but not unique--if you ordered this
a nd ANTI-CIMEX, a nd the records got mixed up, you'd never
know. (Pus)
(Avskum--Ka rla ga ta n 1 9--68 1 00 Kristineha mn--SWEDEN)
B .G.K. - "White Ma le Dumbience
" EP
This is a s strong a s their a lbum, fea turing one unrelenting
thra sher a fter a nother . "Action Ma n", the title cut, a nd "Bite
the Ha nd tha t Feeds (Shit)" ha ve especia lly grea t hooks a nd
brea ks, a nd a ll seven songs conta in some biting a tta cks on
conditioning in modern society . This one is a must, a nd don't
miss them on their U.S . tour this summer . (RS)
(Vogelspin--P.O.

Box

70397-- 1 007

KJ
Amsterda m--NETHERLANDS)
BASTARDS - "Siberia n Ha rdcore" LP
More ba sic meta llic thra sh from Finla nd's BASTARDS.
They've slowed down a bit a nd a dded more Meta l-tinged guita r
pa rts on this fla tly-produced a lbum (which is only a va ila ble on
a Germa n pressing a t this time), but some melodies a nd
stronger hooks would rea lly help a lot
. (JB)
(Rock-O-Ra ma --Ka iserstra sse 1 1 9--5040 Bri)hl--W. GERMANY)
BRUTALVERSCHIMMELT- LP
B
. VERSCHIMMELT'
s debut a lbum revea ls them to be a
ga ra gy ba nd tha t specia lizes in pla ying fa st punk (a s in "6
Millionen"), but they'
re a lso ca pa ble of pla ying thra sh ("
Hey
Ma nn, . . .
.") a nd slower, driving numbers ("Kenein")
. Most of
the songs a re ca tchy, the lyrics a re both politica l a nd sa tirica l,
a nd the ultra -ra w, trebly production a ccentua tes a ll of their
strong points a nd, in the process, ma kes them sta nd out
. Look
for this one . (JB)
(Rock-O-Ra ma )
CALAMITIES - LP
Afolk-rocky pop-punk group from Fra nce with cutesy fema le
voca ls
. The CALAMITIES a re competent enough, but not rea lly
exciting or emotiona lly gripping . They do covers of songs by
the TROGGS, the WHO, a nd the DOVELLS, a nd wish they could
be the GO-GOS. (TY)
(Poshboy--P.O
. Box 38861 --L.A., CA90038)
CELIBATE RIFLES - LP
The second a lbum from this politica lly
a wa re/persona lly-oriented Austra lia n ba nd, which I'm not a s
fond of a s other people I know
. Their music tends towa rd a
70's rock style, with some songs on the soft side a nd others on
the tougher, guita r-hea vy side, not unlike some "Detroit Rock"
ba nds of pa st da ys . Off a nd on . (TY)
(Hot--31 4-1 6

Victoria

St.--Da rlinghurst--Sydney
201 0--AUSTRALIA)
EX - "Blueprints for a Bla ckout" double LP
This is a n a ma zingly mea ty pa cka ge
. Agra phic/lyric book, a
poster, a nd two discs ma ke this ominous piece quite rema rka ble.
They plunder, explore, a nd ra mble through ma ny hideous
subjects a nd musica l fla vors, from "Christ-,-The Album"-type
CRASS opera to frightening industria l rhythm electronics like
KOSMONAUTENTRAUM. If you're fa milia r with the EX a nd like
their work, this new relea se must be experienced from sta rt to
finish ; if not, check it out. (RS)
(Ga lgenstra a t 4a --1 01 3 Amsterda m--NETHERLANDS)
GISM - "Detesta tion" 1 2" EP
Churning Meta l-punk, or perha ps even speed-Meta l,
depending on where you dra w the distinction
. GISM a re
undoubtedly a n HM ba nd who've been hea vily influenced by
ha rdcore, but the music is so intense a nd the voca ls so ominous
tha t even I'm in a sta te of shock . These guys ma ke VENOM
sound like the KNACK, especia lly on side 1
. (JB)
(City

Rocker--No .

303--Aota

Bld .

3-1 -9--Koenji-Kita ,
Sugina miku--Tokyo 1 66--JAPAN)
HUVUDTVATT/K. I . K . - " Va rt Fria La nd" split LP
Afine relea se tha t's sha red by two Swedish ba nds . By now,
everyone should know how grea t HUVUDTVATT(the
HEADCLEANERS) a re-- the only question is whether the rough
production here complements their gruff, ca reening thra sh, a nd
I ca n a ssure you tha t it does. KURTI KUVOS a re new to me,
a nd they do punk a nd thra sh with some peculia r voca l melodies
tha t ma y represent a n a ttempt to bring Swedish folk music into
the 80s . (JB)
(Rea lly Fa st--c/o Jonsson--Hogliden 9E--59500 Mjolby--SWEDEN)
KALASHNIKOV - "kdela eg & Hea rg" EP
Anew Da nish outfit tha t specia lizes in ta sty mid-tempo punk
with a n interesting post-punky fla vor . The overa ll sound is
hea vy, the lyrics a re politica l, a nd there a re some cool
rhythmic shifts a nd guita r frills. "La ederha lse" ha s especia lly
ca tchy voca l a rra ngements, wherea s "Schliiter
's Ka binet" is a
thra shed-out bla st. (JB)
(Hub
;

dist.

by

No

Aa rhus--Postbox

3--8381
Mundelstrup--DENMARK)
ASOCIAL/BEDROVLERS - "How Could H .C. Be Worse?" Ca ss
It could be a hell of a lot worse tha n this! Side 1 conta ins a
dozen thra shers by ASOCIALtha t a bsolutely rip. Then side 2
kicks in with the BEDROVLERS who, if a nything, a re even
more intense
. Killer Swedish ha rdcore! (TY)
(Uproa r--c/o Flora va gen 20 c--773 00 Fa gersta --SWEDEN)
CONTRAZIONE/FRNTI - split LP
This is a n a lbum sha red by two Ita lia n ba nds.
CONTRAZIONE a re a ra w outfit with a punky instrumenta l
a tta ck, stra ightforwa rd rocking bea ts (including a couple of
thra shers), a n occa siona l post- punk frill (like the inclusion of
a sa x in "Na usea "), a nd incredible ma le-fema le voca l
intera ction . FRNTI cover a va riety of musica l ba ses, from
punk ("1 984") to SIOUXIE-like post-punk ("Questa e 1 'Ora ") to
spa rse, a rty numbers ("1 0 Nella Notte")
. (JB)
(dist. by Poison--c/o S. Roberto--Via S. Ippolito 8--59951
Ca stelfiorentino--Firenze--ITALY)
FLESH D-VICE - "1 2 Inches of Ha rd Flesh" 1 2" EP
Ra ging fury from New Zea la nd . Ara w, lightning-fa st
explosion of boisterous momentum, delivered in a quicker
skunky fa shion . Strong guita r a nd ba ss keep a continua l
movement of booming force spurting out in fla ming vigor, a s
exerting voca ls buck out sonic a ssa ults
. Young a nd compelling.
(Pus)
(Flesh ; no a ddress)
HOODOO GURUS - "Stonea ge Romeos" LP
There a re a couple of pop clunkers on here, but most of the
GURUS' songs a re fa irly powerful in a style combining T
. REX
a nd SAINTS influences . Like ma ny Oz ba nds, they've a dopted
tha t ea rlier 70's punkoid guita r sound, but la y it over somewha t
poppier song structures
. At lea st one person we know thinks
tha t the GURUS a re God! (JB & TY)
(Big Time ; no a ddress)
KARNAGE - "Tota l Terminus" EP
With a na me like KARNAGE, I expected this ba nd to pla y
full- tilt thra sh, but such did not prove to be the ca se. In
fa ct, they produce a ggressive post-punk with loud, punky
guita rs, stea dy, slow rhythms, politicized lyrics, a nd some
interesting keyboa rd effects
. Improves with increa sed
fa milia rity . (JB)
(O.M .G .- - 23 Rue Saint- Herem- - 63 000 Clermont- - FRANCE)
KRUNCH - "Na r Va rje Steg a r Ett Snedsteg" ca ssette
Rapid- fire speed in the common new Swedish tradition.
Enchanting doses of uproarious thrash at a non- stop pacewhich
shovels up thundering fury and belts out somebellicoseblows.
KRUNCH ' s invasion is exultant and invigorating, with simpler
musical work that's nevertheless effectiveand fast . (Pus)
(Toma s MSnsson--Kopma ng 27A--861 00 Timra --SWEDEN)
M.A.F. - "Ha u a b
. . . ." LP
Yeah! M .A .F .
play fast punk- - not thrash
. A fistfull of
energy
with good hooks and speedy beats makes me want to
sing along, even though I don't understand German
. Likemany
German bands, they have that 77 U
.K
. influence in some of
their songs, but it's very energetic, like the best from that
era .
" Gefangenschaft" and " Alkoholiker" aregreat blasts
; they
also
do a spirited cover of " If the Kids are United" , and some
mock drunken rousers . Recommended
. (RS)
(Rock-O-Ra ma )
MG-1 5 - "Ca os Fina l" ca ssette
Formerly ca lled SLIPS Y SPERMA(see interview elsewhere in
this issue), these guys pla y a DISCHARGE-like form of thra sh
with few hooks, repetitive riffs, a nd growling voca ls . You
either like this form a lot, or you get bored fa st. (TY)
(Jullit Na va s--Apto 1 64--Na rja [Ma la ga ]--SPAIN)
MOB 47 - " Karnvapen Attack" EP
The Swedish equiva lent of GANG GREEN! MOB 47 pla y
rip-roa ring ultra -fa st thra sh with incredible tightness, thereby
differentia ting themselves from the legions of ha rdcore ba nds
tha t disintegra te a t 1 000-m.p .h . speeds . Every song is like a
flesh-ga uging bullet (except the slow "Anima l Libera tion"),
ma king this EP one of the yea r's best. (JB)
(Ake Henriksson--Grindtorpsva gen 31
z --1 83 32 Ta by--SWEDEN)
NORMAHL- "Ein Volk steht hinter uns" 1 2" EP
Although die NORMAHLsometimes pla y considera bly fa ster
these da ys (a s in "Morga nstunde"), they've reta ined their sense
of irony, their bouncy punk sound, a nd their a bility to write
the occa siona l slower, ca tchy tune (like "Liebeskonsum").
Nothing here
is extra ordina ry, but this 1 2" ma kes for enjoya ble
listening
. (JB)
(Mulleimer ;

conta ct

Helmut

Krizsa n--Bussa rdweg

3--7057
Winnenden--W. GERMANY)
NORMAHL- "Der Adler 1 st Gela ndet" LP
Proficiently- recorded and executed new material that sounds
distinctly German . It's filled with anti- war themes, 77- style
3 - chord riffs, and Oi- type choruses- - without an Oi " attitude" .
Side 1 utilizes humor and funny little musical intros and
breaks, so it sounds a bit disjointed if you don't understand
German . Side 2, while less imaginative, is more rocking . Not
bad at all . (RS)
(Mulleimer)
NURSE II - EP
NURSE II a re a unique Ja pa nese ensemble with a fema le
singer .a nd
a n eclectic, guita r-hea vy a pproa ch to punk music.
On this EP, they produce poppy-punk with a rockin' bea t
(B-2); post-punk (A- 2)
; slow, hook-la den punk (B-1 )
; a nd
two thra shers, one (A-1 )
with screeching "nya h nya h" voca ls,
the other (B-3) with a pummeling bea t a nd shit-hot guita r
brea ks
. Ma rvelous. (JB)
(A.D.K.; no a ddress)
NUSSIVATNUNNAT- "Nunnia Lepa kon WC
:SSA" ca ssette
A3-song demo
by yet a nother new Finnish group
. These
guys pla y ra w-sounding punk a nd thra sh with ra spy Oi-ish
voca ls, but certa in songs (especia lly "Liukuhihna n Orja t")
revea l a
budding ima gina tion more a dva nced tha n their current
musica l a bilities. (JB)
(Vennu

Hiltunen--Vesitorninka tu

4A--501 30

Mikkeli
1 3--FINLAND)
PANIK - "Les Trouba dours du Cha os" 1 2" EP
Midnight ha d this French relea se listed a s "thra sh" in their
ca telog, but in fa ct PANIK fa ll into the mid-tempo skunk
ca tegory
. Although they ha ve bla sting guita rs, a n excellent
singer, a nd some driving songs, they ha ve a more experimenta l
bent a nd concentra te less on the "ca st of thousa nd" ba ckground
voca ls tha n other skunk outfits
. There's even a reverse
mystery tra ck a t the end of side Afor psychedelia 's sa ke
. (JB)
(Pa nik
; dist. by New Rose)
PYHATNUKET- "Ta a YS on Meidn/Sokea "
PYHATNUKETis a second ba nd for some of the guys in
RIISTETYT, a nd it's a rea l depa rture for them
. This ensemble
ha s a highly-polished post-punk sound with strong guita rs
; I'd
recommend it to fa ns of the ea rly CURE
. (TY)
(Kra k
; no a ddress)
R .A.S . - "84" LP
An excellent a lbum which mixes tha t irresista ble French
skunk-- melodic mid-tempo numbers with soccer choruses--with
a few contempora ry thra shers tha t a lso ha ve singa long voca ls
(like
" L. V. F
."). The production is very powerful, a nd the
lyrics reflect both a hea lthy cynicism a bout promises ma de by
esta blished politica l pa rties (including those on the left) a nd a n
obvious hostility to neo-Na zi groups . Recommended . (JB)
($6 to A. Richa rd--A.P.M.C. New Wa ve [R .A.S.]B.P. n
675462 Pa ris cedex 1 0--FRANCE)
RAKA- "Helka Virsija " ca ssettie
RAKAa re a young ba nd from ea stern Finla nd
. They ha ve a n
exceptiona lly primitive a pproa ch, with a lmost every song
consisting of a single simple a nd repetitive riff overla id by
na sty voca ls
. Rude a nd piledriving . (JB)
($2 & two IRCs to Juha Hyytia inen--Kurjentie 62 C 1 4--53650
LPR 65--FINLAND)
RAPPRESAGLIA-
" Da nza di Guerra " EP
Ra w Ita lia n punk
. The tempos a re medium, the voca ls a re
ra ggedy, the sound is rough, a nd a couple of the songs ha ve
good singa long potentia l
. Apop sensibility a lso lurks benea th
the distorted production here
. (JB)
(Ra ppresa glia --Via Correggio 1 8--201 49 Mila no--ITALY)
RATTUS - "Uskonto on Va a ra " 1 2" EP
RATTUS ha ve evolved a lot since the relea se of their ea rly
self- produced EPs, a nd ha ve improved very dra ma tica lly since
the a ppea ra nce of their "W
.C. Ra ja hta a " LP. Their new voca list
Annikki is much hotter, their instrumenta l a tta ck is tighter a nd
even more intense, a nd, best of a ll, most of their newer songs
ha ve terrific hooks in the choruses. This ba by is a wesome!
(JB)
(Poko--PL483--331 01 Ta mpere 1 0--FINLAND)
RAZOR BLADES - "Pla stic Messia h" EP
Another cha otic thra sh-oriented relea se with good lyrics from
the RAZOR BLADES
. They've improved quite a bit over the la st
few yea rs
. Some of their songs now ha ve strong hooks
(especia lly "'68"), a nd they've bra nched out into more diverse
structures without sa crificing their crude guita r power or na sty
voca ls
. "Precipice" tota lly shreds. (JB)
(DK Deca y--Tietgens Alle 1 1 8--5230 Odense M--DENMARK)
RED TIDE - "Kelp a nd Sa la d" EP
After a ll the trouble we ha d getting a decent-sounding remix
version of "Incuba tor Slide" for our "1 984" a lbum, I
ha lf-expected the production on RED TIDE's EP to be terrible.
But they've ended up with a chunky drive a nd a lot of edge on
the guita rs so, despite the occa siona lly weird voca l sound, this
record turned out pretty da mn well . The guita r pa rts a re rea lly
cool, a nd "Sa nta Ma ri Ma rushi" is hotter tha n hell . (JB)
(Toxic Shock--Box 242--Pomona , CA91 769)
RIISTETYT- "Nightma res in Da rkness" LP
Another Rock-O-Ra ma bonus a lbum with a side ea ch of studio
a nd live compositions
. All of the studio ma teria l (some of which
wa s previously relea sed on their la st Finnish 1 2")exudes tha t
trebly thra sh feel tha t one a ssocia tes with CHAOS U .K., a nd
specia l mention should be ma de of a cidic rockers like "Bra inless
Violence" a nd "Skitzophrenia " . The live side va ries in qua lity,
with occa siona l voca l drop-outs, but it's still enterta ining
. A
fine relea se. (SS)
(Rock-O-Ra ma )
SAVAGE CIRCLE - "Live in Germa ny" ca ssette
Not the New York group, but a n Ita lia n outfit tha t ha ndles
more melodic forms of both fa st a nd slow punk . The voca ls a re
mixed wa y up front, but you ca n a lso hea r the music, which
sometimes reminds me of So Ca l ba nd AGENTORANGE's
non-surf ma teria l. (TY)
(R .

de

Ca pita ni--Via

I .

Dell'Oro

401 7021

Ala ssio
(SV)--ITALY)
SECOND AUSCHWITZ - Your Pet" ca ssette
SECOND AUSCHWITZ a re self-a dmitted novices (they
recorded one hundred songs in a studio, forty of which a re
here, without ever ha ving pla yed a n instrument or pra cticed
before) who produce 5-1 0 second "songs" tha t a re crude a nd
idea listic. Decidedly different
. (TY)
(Ja n

Vd.

Einden--Hya cintstr .

1 1 --5701

WJ
Helmond--NETHERLANDS)
SINGLE TRACK - "I
.R.A." ca ssette
A4-song job tha t highlights SINGLE TRACK's
now-a ntiqua ted mid-period CLASH sound
. Not terribly exciting
in this da y a nd a ge. (TY)
(J
. Dutheil--36 Rue Ma rmontel--1 91 00 Brive--FRANCE)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Afrika Corps K7" ca ssette
Ten groups of va rying punk styles a nd recording qua lities
a ppea r on this compila tion of South Africa n ba nds
. The most
proficient a nd powerful a re mid-tempo punkers POWERAGE,
a lthough the GAY MARINES, WILD YOUTH, a nd WILD JUSTICE
a lso show promise
. And, there's a n a ll- girl ga ra ge ba nd ca lled
the LEOPARDS--Steve Spina li ta ke note! (TY)
(S6 to G
. Miltzine--231 ID
Ma l Leclerc--38000 Grenoble--FRANCE)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Ca pitol Ka os" LP
This New Zea la nd compila tion consists ma inly of live ma teria l
by 77-style punk ba nds. Tha t's not to sa y it's ba d, beca use
there a re some pretty cool tra cks herein, especia lly by FINAL
SOLUTION, RIOTIII (who do some thra sh), FLESH D-VICE,
a nd ZYKLON-B. (TY)
(Flesh ; no a ddress)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Life is a Joke" LP
Not one of the New Underground series, but a new
interna tiona l compila tion on Germa ny's Weird System la bel . It
conta ins two cuts ea ch by RAllIA, FANG, TERVEETKADET,
RIOTSQUAD (South Africa ), SAVAGE CIRCLE (Ita ly), SHIT
S .A. (Spa in), the INOCENTES, HYSTERIA(U.K.), a nd CIVIL
DISSIDENT(Austra lia )
. The la tter offer the most plea sa nt
surprise--they're a bruta l thra sh outfit--but the whole record
smokes . (JB)
($7 to Weird System--La nge Reihe 1 01 --2000 Ha mburg 1 --W.
GERMANY ; a lso dist
. b S stema tic)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "(iyvink8i" EP
Aself-produced EP with ma teria l by four young Finnish
ga ra ge punk outfits (PURKAUS, SOTAKULTTUURI, TERROR!,
a nd PAINAJAINEN)
. The ra w production further highlights the
D .I.Y
. ra unchiness of the ba nds, a ll of which pla y more-or-less
tuneless mid-tempo punk ra ther tha n thra sh . PURKAUS a re the
best of a fa irly inept bunch. (JB)
($2 & two IRCs to Jukka Leinonen--Ohra ka tu 8 F 62=-05880
Hyvink8a 8--FINLAND)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Der Vollsuff Sa mpler" ca ssette
Some of these Germa n ha rdcore groups a re a lrea dy
rea sona bly well-known (INFERNO, the MANIACS, M
.A.F., the
SCAPEGOATS), wherea s others a re more obscure (ABZESS,
VOICES OF PROTEST, T.C.A.). INFERNO lea ds a pretty good
pa ck in terms of tightness a nd power . (TY)
(Vollsuff--c/o Ka rl-Heinz Stille--Ludwigsburgerstra sse 4--71 41
Moglingen--W. GERMANY)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Deutscher Punk Sa mpler #1 " ca ssette
This compila tion ta pe fea tures some fa irly unknown ba nds
(TIN CAN RMY, KATAFALK, V.N.W., VOICES OF PROTEST,
MILZBRAND, a nd the MANIACS) who predicta bly displa y
va rying degrees of competency a nd power . The MANIACS a nd
KATAFALK rea lly kick a ss ; the la tter prove to be a n especia lly
fine thra sh ba nd with lots of zip . (TY)
(Vollsuff)
VARIOUS ARTISTS - "1 984
: The First Sonic World Wa r" LP
This French sa mpler conta ins a wide va riety of punk styles--
cla ssica l, ga ra ge, thra sh, skunk (big in Fra nce), a nd
drum-ma chine/synth punk (which the French seem to ha ve
cornered the ma rket on)
. HUMAN BEING a nd HEIMATweigh in
with some choice thra sh, a nd there's lots of other good stuff
from R
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a nd a dozen more . Tres bein! (TY)
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VICIOUS CIRCLE - "Blood Ra ce" ca ssette
Atight new ba nd tha t pla ys fa irly unorigina l thra sh . Give
them a bit more time to develop. (TY)
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VIOLADORES - LP
This is the only Argentine punk record to da te, a nd
a lthough it ca me out in 1 983 a nd is definitely in the cla ssica l
style, it's a fine beginning
. The production is of a very high
qua lity, ena bling los VIOLADORES to get a cross their
a nti-repression lyrics a nd guita r- hea vy sound in the most
powerful ma nner . (TY)
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