ROUTE TOBECOME A ROUTE TO BECOME A

PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER (P.Eng) PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER (P.Eng)

Assoc Prof. Ir. Dr. Lariyah Mohd. Sidek Assoc Prof. Ir. Dr. Lariyah Mohd. Sidek
Civil Engineering Department
College of Engineering
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Sidek
INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION
But first, what is a professional , p
engineer?
A professional engineer
(Ir or PEng) is a person who
is licensed to practice is licensed to practice
engineering in Malaysia after e g ee g aaysa a te
meeting all requirements of
h l ( PI the law (e.g. pass PI
Examination) Examination).
Ir means GENIUS.
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What are the 10 reasons for What are the 10 reasons for
becoming licensed as a PEng or Ir?
There are really morethan 10 reasons
b t t ill f ll i f t i but most will fall in four categories . .
1 A legal necessity 1. A legal necessity.
2. Improved employment security. . p ovede poy e t secu ty.
3. Better opportunities for
advancement.
4. Personal satisfaction.
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Legal Necessity Legal Necessity
1 If youever want or needtobecome 1. If you ever want or need to become
a consulting engineer, you must be g g , y
licensed as a Ir/PEng.
2. Only a Ir/P.Eng. can sign and seal
engineeringdocumentsthat are engineering documents that are
submitted to a public authority or for p y
public and private clients.
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Opportunities for Advancement pp
3. Many companies encourage licensure and some
even pay a bonus for becoming a P.Eng. p y g g
4. In education, more colleges are requiring a
Ir/P.Eng. license for engineering faculty or for
holding certain titles holding certain titles.
5. In many industry, utility, and government
positions aP Eng isrequiredfor specifiedjobsor positions, a P.Eng. is required for specified jobs or
levels.
6. Withtheengineeringprofessionnowoperatingin 6. With the engineering profession now operating in
an international environment, licensing may be
required to work in or for other countries. You
ill b di th t i will be prepared in the event your career moves in
this direction (e.g. APEC Engineers, EMF Int.
Engineer Register, WashingtonAccord) Engineer Register, Washington Accord)
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Personal Satisfaction Personal Satisfaction
7 Licensureisthemarkof aprofessional 7. Licensure is the mark of a professional.
Ethical standards, continuing education,
d f i l and professional competency are
expected. Ir. before or P.Eng. after your e pected. . beo eo . g. ate you
name indicates you have met the
t d d d b t d standards and can be respected as a
professional. p
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Improved Employment Security Improved Employment Security
8. Restructuring, downsizing and outsourcing 8. Restructuring, downsizing and outsourcing
ARE REAL! A P.Eng. or Ir. license may
k th diff i fi di make the difference in finding new
employment. p y
9. Industry and utility exemptions are being
li i di j i di i eliminated in some jurisdictions.
10 Continuingeducationisrequiredfor a 10. Continuing education is required for a
professional engineer (CPD).
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The future Are you ready? The future . . . Are you ready?
Having a Ir or P.Eng. license is
the best insurance policy and the best insurance policy and
could affect your career. The could affect your career. The
time to start is NOW from
STUDENT to PEng.
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INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION
Requirements for registration as a Requirements for registration as a
Graduate Engineer Graduate Engineer
The recognized academic qualification for registration The recognized academic qualification for registration
as a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the as a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the as a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the as a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the
following: following:
An engineering degree accredited/recognized by An engineering degree accredited/recognized by g g g g y g g g g y
BEM available in an approved list maintained by BEM BEM available in an approved list maintained by BEM
A pass in Part I & part II of the Engineering Council A pass in Part I & part II of the Engineering Council
Examination of United Kingdom or Part I & Part II of Examination of United Kingdom or Part I & Part II of
the IEM/BEM Graduate Examination in any particular the IEM/BEM Graduate Examination in any particular
branch for qualifications that is not branch for qualifications that is not branch for qualifications that is not branch for qualifications that is not
accredited/recognized by BEM/IEM. accredited/recognized by BEM/IEM.
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INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION
Requirements for registration as a Professional Requirements for registration as a Professional Requirements for registration as a Professional Requirements for registration as a Professional
Engineer Engineer
A did t h li f i t ti A did t h li f i t ti Any candidate who applies for registration as a Any candidate who applies for registration as a
Professional Engineer must: Professional Engineer must:
Be registered as a Grad ate Engineer ith BEM and Be registered as a Grad ate Engineer ith BEM and Be registered as a Graduate Engineer with BEM; and Be registered as a Graduate Engineer with BEM; and
Have satisfied the training requirements of BEM; and Have satisfied the training requirements of BEM; and
H th P f i l I t i (PI) d b H th P f i l I t i (PI) d b Have passes the Professional Interview (PI) and be Have passes the Professional Interview (PI) and be
elected as a Corporate Member of the Institution of elected as a Corporate Member of the Institution of
Engineers Malaysia (IEM) and Engineers Malaysia (IEM) and Engineers Malaysia (IEM) and Engineers Malaysia (IEM) and
Have been residing in Malaysia for a period of not Have been residing in Malaysia for a period of not
less than six months immediately prior to the date of less than six months immediately prior to the date of less than six months immediately prior to the date of less than six months immediately prior to the date of
application. application.
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INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION Route to PE Route to PE New Scheme New Scheme
(Applicable to Engineer who register with BEM after 1 Jan. 2005) (Applicable to Engineer who register with BEM after 1 Jan. 2005)
Professional
R i i
GRADUATE ACADEMIC TRAINING
Registration REGISTRATION
Graduate Graduate
REQUIREMENTS
Accredited Accredited
Engineering Degree Engineering Degree
Min 3 years Min 3 years
experience experience
Professional Professional
Engineer Engineer
(BEM) & (BEM) &
Graduate Graduate
Member (IEM) Member (IEM)
(normal route) (normal route)
IEM/BEM Part II IEM/BEM Part II
Training record (Log Training record (Log
book) book)
Course attendance Course attendance
Professional Professional
Interview (PI) Interview (PI)
Pass Pass
( ) ( )
Unrecognised Unrecognised
Engineering Engineering
Degree Degree
Recognised Recognised
Masters in Masters in
Engineering Engineering
Professional Professional
development Program development Program
(PDP) (PDP)
MIEM
Registration @
IEM
Graduate Graduate
Recognised Engineering Recognised Engineering
Degree: Degree:
Twinning/ Twinning/
Min 6 years Min 6 years
experience experience
Training record Training record
P.Eng.
Registration @
Engineer Engineer--
with with
restriction restriction
Twinning/ Twinning/
Off campus/Distance Off campus/Distance
learning learning
Engineering Council Engineering Council
Course attendance Course attendance
PDP PDP
Continuing education Continuing education
g @
BEM
Source: Jurutera, August 2001, pg. 7-10
Engineering Council Engineering Council
(Full Certificate) (Full Certificate)
Continuing education Continuing education
CPD
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INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION
Basic Training Requirements Basic Training Requirements New Scheme New Scheme
The The Need Need for for New New Scheme Scheme WHY WHY ? ?
According to BEM announcement ( According to BEM announcement (Jurutera Jurutera Feb 1998) new training Feb 1998) new training According to BEM announcement ( According to BEM announcement (Jurutera Jurutera, Feb. 1998) new training , Feb. 1998) new training
requirements were required due to the following two main reasons: requirements were required due to the following two main reasons:
i. i. To safe guard the profession and for quality assurance since To safe guard the profession and for quality assurance since
Engineering students can obtain their degrees through various ways Engineering students can obtain their degrees through various ways g ee g stude ts ca obta t e deg ees t oug a ous ays g ee g stude ts ca obta t e deg ees t oug a ous ays
such as approved twinning programs, part such as approved twinning programs, part--time courses and distance time courses and distance
learning programs learning programs
ii. ii. A need to raise the standard of Professional Engineers to prepare them A need to raise the standard of Professional Engineers to prepare them
for global competition for global competition
The new requirements include: The new requirements include:
Extended training period Extended training period
Compulsory courses attendance Compulsory courses attendance
Professional Development Program (PDP) Professional Development Program (PDP)
Continuing engineering education program in line with global Continuing engineering education program in line with global
development development
The Professional Interview which comprises an oral interview and essay The Professional Interview which comprises an oral interview and essay- -
writing remains unchanged. The revised training requirements are listed in writing remains unchanged. The revised training requirements are listed in
Table I Table I Table I. Table I.
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INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION
Table I. Revised training requirements for Graduate Engineer Table I. Revised training requirements for Graduate Engineer
Training Activity Graduates from
Accredited Programs
Graduates from Approved
Twinning, Part-Time, Distance
Learning Programs
Minimum working experience Minimum working experience 3 years 3 years 6 years 6 years
General training linking engineering General training linking engineering
t t ti l t t ti l
2 years (min.) 2 years (min.) 3 years (min.) 3 years (min.)
concepts to practical concepts to practical
Professional career development Professional career development
training, e.g. skills awareness, project training, e.g. skills awareness, project
management, logical approach, team management, logical approach, team
1 years (min.) 1 years (min.) 3 years (min.) 3 years (min.)
g , g pp , g , g pp ,
work, responsibility, etc. work, responsibility, etc.
Satisfactory attendance at courses Satisfactory attendance at courses
conducted by BEM or any institutions conducted by BEM or any institutions
approved by BEM such as IEM approved by BEM such as IEM
Code of ethics 12 hours Code of ethics 12 hours
Health & safety, relevant by laws/regulations 12 hours Health & safety, relevant by laws/regulations 12 hours
approved by BEM such as IEM approved by BEM such as IEM
Engineering management practice 12 hours Engineering management practice 12 hours
Topics related to engineering discipline 24 hours Topics related to engineering discipline 24 hours
Professional Development Program Professional Development Program
(PDP) lk i i (PDP) lk i i
30 units 30 units 45 units 45 units
(PDP) e.g. talks, seminars, society (PDP) e.g. talks, seminars, society
meeting and community services (1 meeting and community services (1
unit = 1 hour participation, up to 4 unit = 1 hour participation, up to 4
units/day) units/day)
Continuing education program Continuing education program - - 24 days 24 days
Source: Jurutera, August 2001, pg. 7-10
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Mandatory Training: General Structure Mandatory Training: General Structure
Graduate Engineer Registered with BEM Graduate Engineer Registered with BEM
O i ti ith PE O i ti ith PE O i ti ith t PE O i ti ith t PE Organisation with PE Organisation with PE Organisation without PE Organisation without PE
Mentor (in the same discipline) Mentor (in the same discipline) selected selected
by the Graduate Engineer or IEM by the Graduate Engineer or IEM
Training Training Supervised by a registered Supervised by a registered
Professional Engineer Professional Engineer
Same discipline Same discipline
Use IEM Logbook regularly Use IEM Logbook regularly
Same discipline Same discipline
Within the same organisation Within the same organisation
Meet Mentor regularly for Meet Mentor regularly for
discussion/guidance/certification of discussion/guidance/certification of
Graduates work at quarterly intervals Graduates work at quarterly intervals
Certification of Graduates Certification of Graduates
Logbook to be endorsed by IEM at Logbook to be endorsed by IEM at
least once a year least once a year
Certification of Graduate s Certification of Graduate s
work experience work experience
Source: Jurutera, August 2001, pg. 7-10
least once a year least once a year
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PASS
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PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER EXAMINATION PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER EXAMINATION
Graduate Engineer Registered with BEM Graduate Engineer Registered with BEM
Submit forms IEM/P1(1) & IEM/P1 (2) Submit forms IEM/P1(1) & IEM/P1 (2) IEM IEM
Professional Interview (PI) Professional Interview (PI)
MIEM Registration @ IEM
P. Eng Registration @ BEM
CPD (50 hours/year) CPD (50 hours/year)
Source: Jurutera, August 2001, pg. 7-10
Board of Engineers Malaysia (LJ M) has decided that starting J an 1, 2007,
the PAE will be conducted solely by IEM on behalf of the board.
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How to become a PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER? (1) ENGINEER? (1)
To become a Professional Engineer (P.Eng) a
did t t candidate must:-
1. Register themselves with the Board of Engineers upon graduation as
it iscompulsoryunder theEngineers Act 1967 for all practicing it is compulsory under the Engineers Act 1967 for all practicing
engineers to register with the Board.
2. After registration with the Board, the engineer could approach
towards their objectives of obtaining Professional Engineer
(P.Eng) status either on their own or through the IEM Log book ( g) g g
scheme
3 All GRADUATESENGINEER arerequiredtocompleteat least 3. All GRADUATES ENGINEER are required to complete at least
THREE (3) years of relevant work experience after graduation with
an accredited engineering degree. These training stints should be as
f ibl b l t d d th id f P f i l far as possible be completed under the guidance of a Professional
Engineer (P.Eng) who is in the same discipline as the GRADUATE
ENGINEER.
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How to become a PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER? (2) ENGINEER? (2)
TobecomeaProfessional Engineer (P.Eng) acandidate To become a Professional Engineer (P.Eng) a candidate
must:-
A registered Graduate Engineer is required under Section 10(1)(b) of the Act
b i i l i i d b i l d i f h P f i l to obtain practical experience in order to be entitled to sit for the Professional
Interview Examination (PI) which is a prerequisite to apply for registration as
a Professional Engineer.
The candidate shall carry out the practical experience in the following manner
as prescribed in Regulation 22(1) of the Registration of Engineers Regulations
1990 1990:
The practical experience that a registered Graduate Engineer is required to p p g g q
obtain under section 10 (1) (b) of the Act in order to be entitled to apply for
registration as a Professional Engineer shall be carried out in a manner
satisfactory to the Board for a period of three years.
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HOW TO BECOME A PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER? ENGINEER?
1. In the planning, design, execution or
management of such works as management of such works as
comprised within the profession of
engineering (MIN 3 YEARS)
PROFESSIONAL
2. In engineering research and at
least ONE year of such practical
PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER
least ONE year of such practical
experience
3 In the teachingin a course leadingto a 3. In the teaching in a course leading to a
qualification in engineering research; or
in the teaching in a course leading to a
qualificationapprovedby the Boardand qualification approved by the Boardand
at least ONE year of such practical
experience shall be obtained in Malaysia
under the supervisionof a registered under the supervision of a registered
Professional Engineer of the same
discipline
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How to become a PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER? (3)
Thi i d f t i i i l l i t i tl This period of training in a local environment is greatly
emphasized by BEM as it is of paramount importance for the
prospective Professional Engineers to be familiar with the local p p g
conditions and by - laws so that they can comply and practise
effectively in Malaysia.
Notwithstanding the above, regulation 22(2) stipulates that if the
Board is satisfied for sufficient cause or reason, the Board may in f f ff , y
any particular case exempt either wholly or partly the requirements
as to the practical experience required to be obtained in Malaysia or
the requirement as to the supervision by a registered Professional the requirement as to the supervision by a registered Professional
Engineer in Malaysia; provided that the total practical experience to
be obtained shall not be less than three years.
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How to become a PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER?IEM LogBookScheme ENGINEER? IEM Log Book Scheme
4. If they opt for the IEM log book scheme, they should follow the
proceduresdocumentedintheTRAININGSCHEME GUIDELINES procedures documented in the TRAINING SCHEME GUIDELINES
(get ref. from IEM).
(i) Mentee should meet with Mentor at least once every three
th t i d di i l t dhi t i i f id months to review and discuss issues related his training for guidance
and verification.
(ii) The logbook must be endorsed by immediate superior for ( ) g y p
accuracy and authenticity before mentor can endorsed.
(iii) Mentor will advise continuously the mentee and to advise to
obtainrelevant experiencebasedonexpertisefor PI obtain relevant experience based on expertise for PI.
(iv) The log book must be endorsed by Honorary Sec of IEM once
a year.
(v) The content of Logbook should include (a) brief description of
the jobs or tasks performed by candidate such sketches, or simple
diagram. Detail investigation, studies and calculation could be g g
submitted as attachments to Log book.
(b) Record of activities in chronological order and (3) Summary of
topics learned during seminars, talks or courses should be
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How to become a PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER?Professional Interview ENGINEER? Professional Interview
5. Once the candidate complete their training p g
(either on their own or through the IEM Log book
scheme) thenext stepfor themistosit for the scheme), the next step for them is to sit for the
Professional Interview conducted by IEM. Once
theypassthisinterviewtheycouldbeadmittedas they pass this interview they could be admitted as
Corporate Members of IEM and are then eligible to
apply to the BEM to be registered as Professional
Engineer (P.Eng). g ( g)
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ACTION PLAN FOR POTENTIAL
CANDIDATES
1. If youve comply all the requirements, please submit your
CANDIDATES
y py q , p y
application to IEM directly.
2. Submit application form IEM/ P1(1) and IEM/ P1(2)
3. Submit BEM Registration Letter as a Graduate Engineer
4. Submit Degree and Diplomas Certificates together with
transcripts
5.Evidence to show discipline/ branch of engr if the information is
not in certificate not in certificate
6. STPM/ SPM/ GCE/ Matriculation or equivalent
7 P f PI f (RM100 f f &RM200 f 7. Payment of PI fees (RM100 for transfer case & RM200 for
Election case)
8 Forms completedwith 1 proposer and1 seconder 8. Forms completed with 1 proposer and 1 seconder
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ACTION PLAN FOR POTENTIAL
CANDIDATES
9 E i l l b l d f h d f d i d
CANDIDATES
9. Experience clearly tabulated after the date of graduation and
breakdown of experience recorded in months
10 Signatures of 2 engineers to verify experience on each page 10. Signatures of 2 engineers to verify experience on each page
of the form.
11. Form IEM/ PI (3) to be submitted when called for INTERVIEW / ( )
12. Name will be circulated in IEM Bulletin in a month.
13 IEMformwill be submittedwhen the interviewers calledfor 13. IEM form will be submitted when the interviewers called for
interview.
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Extra exam for engineering grads to qualify as professionals
Graduate engineers will soon find it tougher to call themselves professional engineers g g p g
and to carry the Ir title before their name. The bar for the profession will be raised
come 2008 with the introduction of an additional competency examination.

Citing greater competition with the advance of globalisation it was about time the Citing greater competition with the advance of globalisation, it was about time the
bar was raised and better engineers were produced. The additional examination will
cover competency in the practice as well as in the laws of the land.
The current system allows for graduate engineers with at least three years' working
experience to sit a single examination called the Professional Assessment Examination
(PAE). Upon passing the PAE, the engineer would be considered a professional and
would earn the right to use the Ir title. would earn the right to use the Ir title.
But come Jan 1, 2008, candidates who want to sit the PAE will also have to sit for the
competency examination. Engineers who fail the competency examination would not
be considered professionals.

Board of Engineers Malaysia (LJM) has decided that starting Jan 1, 2007, the PAE
will be conducted solely by IEM on behalf of the board.

All stakeholders of construction projects to eliminate corruption by enforcing the

existing code of ethics to safeguard the profession's good name.

We need to place a greater emphasis on self-regulation to ensure that ethical practice

and quality works are consistently carried out.
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INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION
Documents to be Submitted for P.Eng. Assessment Documents to be Submitted for P.Eng. Assessment
11 Report on Graduate Engineers training and experience prepared in accordance with Report on Graduate Engineers training and experience prepared in accordance with 1. 1. Report on Graduate Engineers training and experience prepared in accordance with Report on Graduate Engineers training and experience prepared in accordance with
the PI regulations the PI regulations
Report to be verified by a P.Eng. (e.g. Mentor) Report to be verified by a P.Eng. (e.g. Mentor) p y g ( g ) p y g ( g )
2. 2. Report on a project carried out by the Graduate Engineer during the course of his/her Report on a project carried out by the Graduate Engineer during the course of his/her
experience as tabulated in item No. 1. The report shall include design calculations experience as tabulated in item No. 1. The report shall include design calculations
d/ i i d i d t h i l d lt bt i d d/ i i d i d t h i l d lt bt i d and/or engineering drawings, procedures or techniques employed, results obtained, and/or engineering drawings, procedures or techniques employed, results obtained,
discussion and conclusions discussion and conclusions
Report or Case Study to be verified by a P.Eng. Report or Case Study to be verified by a P.Eng. p y y g p y y g
This will form part of the topic of discussion during the professional interview This will form part of the topic of discussion during the professional interview
3. 3. Logbook if applicable Logbook if applicable
Verified by Mentor and endorsed by IEM Verified by Mentor and endorsed by IEM
Notes: A P.I candidate must submit documents showing evidence of his/her engineering g g g
experience. It can be in formof drawings with calculation attached. The candidate must also
submit a report in chronological order describing the work he has undertaken since
graduation. The report must indicate clearly the engineering problems encountered by the
candidate and his/her solution to overcome this situation The candidate needs to have an candidate and his/her solution to overcome this situation. The candidate needs to have an
understanding of cost, quantities &magnitude, knowledge of technical standards and code of
practices and the various restrictions on their applications in solvingthe problemencountered.
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INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION
Professional Assessment Examination (PAE) or Professional Assessment Examination (PAE) or
Professional Interview (PI) Professional Interview (PI)
Interview Interview
Basic Questions: Basic Questions:
te e te e
Basic engineering Basic engineering
Training & Experience Training & Experience
What has the candidate done ? What has the candidate done ?
Why has the candidate done it ? Why has the candidate done it ?
Does the candidate fully understand Does the candidate fully understand
Projects undertaken Projects undertaken
Duration = 0.5 to 1 hour Duration = 0.5 to 1 hour
Write two (2) essay Write two (2) essay
the engineering concept involved ? the engineering concept involved ?
What engineering decision has the What engineering decision has the
candidate made ? candidate made ?
Wh t i ti ti d id ti Wh t i ti ti d id ti
Section A: Training & Experience Section A: Training & Experience
Question to be given by the interviewer at the time of interview Question to be given by the interviewer at the time of interview
What investigation and consideration What investigation and consideration
undertaken to reach conclusions ? undertaken to reach conclusions ?
Section B: Code of Ethics Section B: Code of Ethics
Questions (~ 10 Questions (~ 10--12) available to the candidate prior to PI. However, the interviewer 12) available to the candidate prior to PI. However, the interviewer
will select the question to be attempted by the candidate at the time of interview will select the question to be attempted by the candidate at the time of interview
D ti 1 5 h h ti D ti 1 5 h h ti Duration = 1.5 hours each question Duration = 1.5 hours each question
Competency Examination & Laws of Land (40 Competency Examination & Laws of Land (40- -50 MCQ) will be conducted by BEM 50 MCQ) will be conducted by BEM
Notes: The reason is to allow the candidate a chance to clarify certain points that were not
properly expressed during the interview. The second essay is on the code of ethics.
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Professional Interview: The Expectation Professional Interview: The Expectation
To assess the candidates practical experience To assess the candidates practical experience NOT ONLY NOT ONLY on a on a To assess the candidate s practical experience To assess the candidate s practical experience NOT ONLY NOT ONLY on a on a
TIME BASIS TIME BASIS but also on but also on MERIT MERIT
The purpose of ORAL interview is to clarify certain points stated in
th t d t t i h th th did t did t th the report and to ascertain whether the candidate did carry out the
job. The engineering experience gained should include planning-
design, investigation-field, work-construction, supervision &
management and general engineering related activities management and general engineering related activities.
In general the interview is intended to test the candidates: In general the interview is intended to test the candidates:
Understanding of the application of engineering principles to the solutions of Understanding of the application of engineering principles to the solutions of
problems arising in the investigation, planning, design or construction of problems arising in the investigation, planning, design or construction of
engineering works or research engineering works or research
Capacity to accept professional responsibility Capacity to accept professional responsibility
Ability to communicate Ability to communicate can write and present clear and concise manner can write and present clear and concise manner
Awareness of current issues pertaining to his/her field of engineering Awareness of current issues pertaining to his/her field of engineering
Ability to discuss/debate a wide range of current topics and at the same time Ability to discuss/debate a wide range of current topics and at the same time
be aware of the Code of Professional Conduct be aware of the Code of Professional Conduct
New exam requirements:
(1) Competency in the practice as well as in the laws of the land.
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Graduate Engineer: The Way Forward Graduate Engineer: The Way Forward g y g y
Graduate Graduate
E i E i
Mentor & Logbook Mentor & Logbook
Discuss with a Discuss with a
mentor in your mentor in your
Do your Homework! Do your Homework!
Get as much info from Get as much info from
Engineer Engineer
Registration Registration
BEM BEM
IEM IEM
mentor in your mentor in your
discipline discipline
Check with IEM Check with IEM
about the Logbook about the Logbook
Get as much info. from Get as much info. from
BEM & IEM about current BEM & IEM about current
procedures and training procedures and training
requirement/scheme to requirement/scheme to
become a PE become a PE about the Logbook about the Logbook
scheme scheme
become a PE become a PE
Graduate Graduate
Professional Professional
H Pl d Mil t H Pl d Mil t
Graduate Graduate
Engineer Engineer
Engineer Engineer
(P.Eng., MIEM) (P.Eng., MIEM)
Have a Plan and Milestones Have a Plan and Milestones
The most important component is the The most important component is the
TRAINING requirement TRAINING requirement
S t GOALS & PLAN h t S t GOALS & PLAN h t
Initiative, Commitment & Initiative, Commitment &
Professionalism ! Professionalism !
Your effort = 80% Your effort = 80%
Set your GOALS & PLAN how to Set your GOALS & PLAN how to
achieve the MERIT and EXPERIENCE achieve the MERIT and EXPERIENCE
needed within the minimum stipulated needed within the minimum stipulated
time frame time frame
Mentors effort = 20% Mentors effort = 20%
Failing to Plan, Is a Plan to Fail ! Failing to Plan, Is a Plan to Fail !
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Professional Engineer: Whos Who in COE Professional Engineer: Whos Who in COE
ME Department ME Department
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Dr Ir Jawaid Dr Ir Jawaid
Ir Ali Ir Ali Sekkar Sekkar
EE Department EE Department
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Assoc Prof Ir. Dr Zahrul Faizi Assoc Prof Ir. Dr Zahrul Faizi
Dr Ir Hj Dr Ir Hj Tn Tn Rashid Rashid
CE Department CE Department
Assoc Prof Ir. Dr. Lariyah Mohd Sidek Assoc Prof Ir. Dr. Lariyah Mohd Sidek BN 2 BN 2--016 016 ext. 7289 ext. 7289
Ir. Marlinda Abdul Malek Ir. Marlinda Abdul Malek BN 1 BN 1--043 043 ext. 2275 ext. 2275
Assoc Prof Ir Dr Kamal Assoc Prof Ir Dr Kamal Nasharudin Nasharudin
Ir Zakaria Che Muda Ir Zakaria Che Muda
Prof Ir Dr Mohd Nor Md Desa Prof Ir Dr Mohd Nor Md Desa Prof Ir Dr Mohd Nor Md Desa Prof Ir Dr Mohd Nor Md Desa
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P f i l E i Professional Engineer
Entitlement of Professional Engineer
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Section 7(1)(a), REA
N h ll l h i No person shall, unless he is a
registered Professional Engineer,
practise, carry on business or take up
employment which requires him to p y q
carry out or perform professional
engineeringservices engineering services
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Section 8(1), REA
N b d th th No person or body, other than a
Professional Engineer or an ECP, shall
be entitled to submit plans, engineering
surveys, drawings, schemes, proposals, y , g , , p p ,
reports, designs or studies to any
person or authority in Malaysia person or authority in Malaysia
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Section 7(1)(aa)(i), REA
N h ll l h i No person shall, unless he is a
registered Professional Engineer, be
entitled to describe himself or hold
himself out under any name, style or y , y
title bearing the words Professional
Engineeror the equivalent thereto in Engineer or the equivalent thereto in
any other language
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Section 7(1)(aa)(iii), REA
N h ll l h i No person shall, unless he is a
registered Professional Engineer, be
entitled to use the abbreviation Ir
before his name or the abbreviation
P.Eng. after his name
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Section 7(1)(c), REA
N h ll l h i No person shall, unless he is a
registered Professional Engineer, be
entitled to recover in any court any fee,
charge, remuneration or other form of g ,
consideration for any professional
engineeringservices rendered engineering services rendered
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Section 7(1)(d), REA
N h ll l h i No person shall, unless he is a
registered Professional Engineer, be
entitled to use the stamp as prescribed
in the Second Schedule
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