APPROVED A

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APPROVED WITH COMMENTS AC
Approved Subject to Incorporation of comments
RETURNED FOR CORRECTION RT
Insufficient Information/ Detail
Resubmit for Approval
REJECTED RJ
Complete redesign required
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Returned without comments
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Pyry Energy
TWO(2) X 500MW
MONG DUONG 1 THERMAL POWER PLANT
David Langhorne
Senior Mec Engineer
27-Mar-13
Pyry Comment
Two(2) x 500MW Mong Duong 1 Thermal Power Plant Project

Dwg. / Doc. Title
Arrangement of Steam
Pipes and Valves

Dwg. / Doc. No. MD1-0-V-111-01-00003
HDEC DT No. MD1-HDH-EVN-X-195 Submitted Date 2012-06-15 Rev. A
Pyry TR No. 9A000323-000425 Received Date 2012-06-25
New HDEC DT No. MD1-HDH-EVN-X-2470 Re-Submitted Date 2013.02.25 B
Status Approved with Comments

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No. Pyrys Comments Contractors Reply / Action
1 Please show individual details of main steam,
CRH and HRH piping on the drawing.




Poyry comment on Rev. B
Add there drawing numbers to the list of
supplementary drawings.

Refer to the drawing as below;
MD1-1-P-111-24-00001 Piping Isometric
Drawing - Main Steam System (Unit #1)
MD1-1-P-111-24-00011 Piping Isometric
Drawing - Cold Reheat Steam System (Unit #1)
MD1-1-P-111-24-00021 Piping Isometric
Drawing - Hot Reheat Steam System (Unit #1)

2 All valves and piping KKS tag numbers shall
need to be mentioned.

Poyry comment on Rev. B
Closed

Reflected KKS tag numbers in all valves and
piping on this drawing.
3 Confirm that the main steam, CRH and HRH
piping and drain arrangement are in total
compliance with recommendations of ASME
TDP-1 as required per clause 6.9.1 of Book 3 of
11 of EPC Contract.

Poyry comment on Rev. B
There is no drain arrangement indicated on the
main steam P&I D document MD1-0-M-110-21-
00011. This was a comment made against Rev
A. Document MD1-0-V-111-21-00002 indicates
main steam drains but they are in HDEC scope
of supply.
Therefore the HDEC drains should be included
on the HDEC drawing.
Document MD1-0-M-110-21-00013 indicates
drain lines LBB10/20BR401 & 411. Document
MD1-0-V-111-21-00002 indicates hot reheat
drains LBB13/23 in HDEC scope of supply.
Therefore these drains should be included in the
HDEC drawing.
HDEC shall clarify the main steam and hot
reheat system drain arrangements

As you can see MS/CRH/HRH System P&ID
MD1-0-M-110-21-00011~13, Contractor
confirmed that the drain system of major piping
system meet the ASME TDP-1 requirement.
4 It is noted that the drain lines and valves on
those line are not shown on this drawing. Please
refer to the drawings which will show this.

Refer to MD1-0-V-111-01-00038 PIPING
ARRAGEMENT OF STEAM SEAL PIPING
(1/6) (It will be submitted after fixing the
arrangement of piping)
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No. Pyrys Comments Contractors Reply / Action
Poyry comment on Rev. B
Document received however it does not show
the required detail.

5 Please show the location of drain lines upstream
of turbine stop valve in line with ASME TDP-1
recommendations. These drain are required to
have minimum 1 inch inside diameter. Which
drawings depict these?

Poyry comment on Rev. B
See response to item 3. Also the request is for
the location of the drains in relation to the
turbine main steam and hot reheat stop valves.

As you can see MS/CRH/HRH System P&ID
MD1-0-M-110-21-00011~13, the drain system of
major piping system meet the ASME TDP-1
requirement. DN 50mm piping is adopted at all
drain line in major piping system.
6 Please show the location of Turbine stop valves
before and after seat drain connection in line
with ASME TDP-1 recommendation.




Poyry comment on Rev. B
Closed
For the location of MSV before and after seat
drain / MSV leak-off, refer to interface point
SD111, SD121, SD211, SD221 / SS511, SS521
on the drawing : OUTLINE-MAIN
STOP&CONTROL VALVE_MD1-0-V-111-10-
00001~2.

It seems that Owner comments the document
based on the old version of ASME TDP-1. We
confirmed that the turbine drain system meet the
latest version of ASME TDP-1.

7 Please show the location of Turbine control
valves before and after seat drain connection in
line with ASME TDP-1 recommendation




Poyry comment on Rev. B
Closed

For the location of CV leak-off, refer to interface
point SS530 ~ SS537 on the drawing :
OUTLINE-MAIN STOP&CONTROL
VALVE_MD1-0-V-111-10-00001~2.

It seems that Owner comments the document
based on the old version of ASME TDP-1. We
confirmed that the turbine drain system meet the
latest version of ASME TDP-1.
8 Please confirm that the drains on each loop
piping at downstream of control valves are of
inch minimum inside diameter as per ASME
TDP-1 recommendations. This does not seem
possible with 1 inch socket welded drain
connections as shown currently.

Poyry comment on Rev. B
Closed

Drain point on each loop piping at downstream
of control valve is satisfied with ASME TDP-
1(3/4 minimum inside dia.).
NPS 1 is larger than 3/4 I.D.

It seems that Owner comments the document
based on the old version of ASME TDP-1. We
confirmed that the turbine drain system meet the
latest version of ASME TDP-1.
9 Please explain the purpose of the ventilator
valve mentioned on the drawing. Please refer to
the P&ID which shows this valve along with
valve KKS tag number.



When the turbine trip, the HP section may
overheat due to windage losses. It is a result of
the buckets spinning in the high pressure and
temperature steam that is bottled up between
the main stop valve and the RSV. When this
occurs, windage losses quickly raise the temp.
of the spinning buckets. At high temp. the
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No. Pyrys Comments Contractors Reply / Action



Poyry comment on Rev. B
The highlighted part of the comment has not
been addressed.

bucket material strength is reduced and damage
may result. When turbine start-up, need to
cooling HP section due to reverse flow
operating. To avoid this problem, a ventilator
valve is placed on the steam main steam pipe.
10 Please explain the purpose of the blowdown
valve mentioned on the drawing. Please refer to
the P&ID which shows this valve along with
valve KKS tag number.

Poyry comment on Rev. B
The highlighted part of the comment has not
been addressed.

BDV is closed in normal operation. However
when turbine trip, this valve opens, and any
steam that would have leaked from the HP to
the IP turbine goes instead to the condenser.
11 Which drawing shows the orientation of the CRH
connections? Confirm the provision of minimum
6 inch drain pot as close to the turbine as
practical and at any additional low point for CRH
line, and minimum 2 inch drain connection from
each such drain pot for CRH line. Each drain pot
shall have 2 level sensing devices, for automatic
actuation of the drain valves. These are required
per ASME TDP-1 recommendations. Other
recommendations of TDP1 also apply. Which
drawing will show these?

Poyry comment on Rev. B
The highlighted part of the comment has not
been addressed.
Drain pot size closed
The drawing identifying the location of the CRH
drain pots has not been identified.

As you can see MS/CRH/HRH System P&ID
MD1-0-M-110-21-00011~13, the drain system of
major piping system meet the ASME TDP-1
requirement. DN 250mm and DN300mm drain
pot with DN 50mm drain piping is adopted at all
drain line in major piping system.
12 Confirm the drain provisions on the HRH pipe
and Combined Reheater stop and control valve,
and illustrate how ASME TDP-1
recommendations are complied.

Poyry comment on Rev. B
The comment has not been addressed. The
answer is a response to the previous question.

As you can see MS/CRH/HRH System P&ID
MD1-0-M-110-21-00011~13, the drain system of
major piping system meet the ASME TDP-1
requirement. DN 250mm and DN300mm drain
pot with DN 50mm drain piping is adopted at all
drain line in major piping system.
13. Complete all information shown as LATER on
the drawing

Poyry comment on Rev. B
Noted.

Reflected on drawing. (Q-2), (Q-7)
In case movements table, it will be filled out after
detail analysis are finalized.
14. Coordinate with EPC Contractor and confirm
which notes apply specifically to this project, as
they seem to be generic in nature at this stage.

Notes in this drawing are specially applied to
MongDuong1 project.
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No. Pyrys Comments Contractors Reply / Action
Poyry comment on Rev. B
Noted. See comment 1.

15 Poyry comment on Rev. B
The identification of the main steam control
valve differs from P&I Diagram MD1-0-V-111-
21-00002. The error would appear to be on the
P&I Diagram which only has two KKS identifiers
for four valves.


16 Poyry comment on Rev. B
The KKS identification of the loop pipes from the
main steam control valves differs from the P&I
Diagram. On the P&I Diagram CV3 is
connected to line BR003. This drawing
indicates it connected to BR004.
Consequently the connection from CV4 is also
incorrect.