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RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
From:
"AhmedMadkour"<a.madkour@recoveryadvisers.com>
To:
"amia_786@yahoo.com"<amia_786@yahoo.com>,"GhazanferHassan"<g.hussain@recoveryadvisers.com>
Cc:
"MelissaEstrella"<m.estrella@recoveryadvisers.com>,Reports<reports@recoveryadvisers.com>
Date:
Apr16,201511:15:55AM
Dear Mr Mia,
Indeed, we understand that you are acting on behalf of these companies which is why we are
in discussion with you on the repayment terms. Technically, the agreement has to be with
the original buyer.
Assigning the obligation to your company is not accepted by the credit insurer, and therefore
it is not possible to sign a repayment plan directly with your company. It is however possible
to accept a guarantee from your company in addition to signing the agreement with the
original buyer.
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From:amia_786@yahoo.com[mailto:amia_786@yahoo.com]
Sent:15April201519:31
To:AhmedMadkourGhazanferHassan
Cc:MelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:Re:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
TheclaimhasbeentoabovecompaniesbutIhavebeenmandatedbythemtoresolvetheissue.
Regards
From:AhmedMadkour
Sent:Wednesday15April20152:39PM
To:amia_786@yahoo.comGhazanferHassan
Cc:MelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Dear Mr Mia,
When possible, please let us know how the liability was transferred to Needleworx Trading
South Africa; i.e. the mechanism through which it was transferred from the buyers.
As per the information we received from the credit insurer, the claim is against the above
mentioned companies.
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Office 1004 Lake Central Tower, Burj Khalifa Area, Business Bay |P.O. Box 116759 Dubai, The United Arab Emirates|T +971 4 4324768
|M +971 55 200 0269
Recovery Advisers is a limited liability company, whose purpose is to provide claims recovery and management services as an intermediary for and on
behalf of the client. Recovery Advisers operates on the basis of an international network of local debt collecting agencies and of exclusive joint operating
agreements.
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From:amia_786@yahoo.com[mailto:amia_786@yahoo.com]
Sent:15April201515:58
To:AhmedMadkourGhazanferHassan
Cc:MelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:Re:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Hi
IwillbesigningonbehalfofNeedleworxTradingSouthAfricawhohastakenresponsibilityforthoseamounts.
Regards
From:AhmedMadkour
Sent:Wednesday15April20151:00PM
To:GhazanferHassanamia_786@yahoo.com
Cc:MelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Dear Mr Mia,
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We are in the process of seeking approvals and drafting the required paperwork to settle this
matter amicably.
To proceed further, we kindly ask you whether you are of the correct legal capacity to sign
on behalf of Goetz Gold LLC, Toney Goetz NV (BE), and / or AGOR DMCC.
Office 1004 Lake Central Tower, Burj Khalifa Area, Business Bay |P.O. Box 116759 Dubai, The United Arab Emirates|T +971 4 4324768
|M +971 55 200 0269
Recovery Advisers is a limited liability company, whose purpose is to provide claims recovery and management services as an intermediary for and on
behalf of the client. Recovery Advisers operates on the basis of an international network of local debt collecting agencies and of exclusive joint operating
agreements.
DISCLAIMERThis email is intended exclusively for the addressee. If the email was sent to you by mistake, would you please call us immediately? In that
case, we also request you to destroy the email and not to use the contents or disclose them in any manner to third parties. Telephone +971 432 4768.
Access to, disclosure, copying and/or distribution of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Please note that Recovery
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From:GhazanferHassan
Sent:13April201510:31
To:amia_786@yahoo.com
Cc:AhmedMadkourMelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Importance:High
DearMr.Mia,
Thanksforyouremail.
Wewillupdateyouwiththedraftagreementsoon.
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Sent:Monday,April13,201510:29AM
To:GhazanferHassan
Cc:AhmedMadkourMelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:Re:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Hi
Canyousenddraftfor20k.
Asmentioned,thisisminimumamount.
Regards
From:GhazanferHassan
Sent:Monday13April20157:13AM
To:amia_786@yahoo.com
Cc:AhmedMadkourMelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
DearMr.Mia,
Hopeyouaredoingwell.
Withreferencetoourbelowemail,wewouldliketorequestyoutoconfirmusifyouarewillingtosignanagreementtosettlethisclaim.
Thisagreementcanhelpyougetpartiallyrepaidsoyoucanmoveontootherthings,pleaseconfirmsothatwecansendyouthedraft
agreementforUSD30,000monthlystartingfromthismonthonwards.
From:GhazanferHassan
Sent:Sunday,April12,201510:42AM
To:'amia_786@yahoo.com'
Cc:AhmedMadkourMelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
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Importance:High
DearMr.Mia,
Thanksforyouremail.
WehighlyrecommendyoutopayminimumofUSD30,000ormoreb/ctheclaimamountistoohigh.
KindlyprovideusyoursignedrepaymentplanstartingfromthismonthtosendtoourheadofficeinChinaforfinal
approval.
From:amia_786@yahoo.com[mailto:amia_786@yahoo.com]
Sent:Friday,April10,20159:31PM
To:GhazanferHassan
Cc:AhmedMadkourMelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:Re:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Hi
Thefiguregiveninminimumamount.
Also,wewouldnotliketodefaultonanypaymentandthatwouldbeasafefigure.
WarmRegards
From:GhazanferHassan
Sent:Thursday9April201511:49AM
To:amia_786@yahoo.com
Cc:AhmedMadkourMelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
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DearMr.Amia,
Thanksforyouremail.
Withreferencetoyourbelowemail,Iwouldliketoinformyouthatoneofthefollowingoutcomesisusuallytakenin
consideration.
Iftheclaimisnotresolvedamicablythantheinsurerhasfullrightstogolegallytorecoverthisamount,theinsurerwill
proceedtoenforceitagainstyourcompanyandrecoverthefulldebtamountpluslegalexpenses.
Iftheclaimiswonandyourcompanyisunabletopay,thentheinsurerwillproceedintwoparallelpathsfirstisfilingfor
forcedbankruptcy,andthesecondisstartinganinquiryfordirectorliability(i.e.whyisyourmanageractivelytradingina
companynotabletopayitsbillswhichaccordingtolawusuallyresultsinthemanager'spersonalliability).
From:amia_786@yahoo.com[mailto:amia_786@yahoo.com]
Sent:Thursday,April9,201512:52PM
To:GhazanferHassan
Cc:AhmedMadkourMelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:Re:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Willadvise
Ifnotsortedamicably,whatprocedurewillfollow?
Regards
From:GhazanferHassan
Sent:Thursday9April20158:48AM
To:amia_786@yahoo.com
Cc:AhmedMadkourMelissaEstrellaReports
Subject:Re:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
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DearMr.Mia,
Thanksforyourquickresponse.
WithreferencetoyouremailforminimumUSD20,000isveryless,theinsurancewillneveracceptb/ctheamountisvery
lessasyouneedtoplanforminimumUSD50kormorethanthistoresolvethisclaimamicably.
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OnApr9,2015,at10:41AM,"amia_786@yahoo.com"<amia_786@yahoo.com>wrote:
Hi
Waslookingat$20permonthminimum.
Itcouldbe50and100etc.Wecanfixaminimum.
Regards
From:AhmedMadkour
Sent:Thursday26March20158:32AM
To:amia_786@yahoo.com
Cc:MelissaEstrellaGhazanferHassan
Subject:RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Dear Mr Mia,
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Indeed, we are keen to reach an amicable solution for this matter; monthly repayments is a
good option.
To proceed with this option, we kindly request to draft a repayment plan so we can present
it to SINOSURE for their review and approval.
Ahmed Madkour
From:amia_786@yahoo.com[mailto:amia_786@yahoo.com]
Sent:26March201509:23
To:AhmedMadkour
Cc:MelissaEstrellaGhazanferHassan
Subject:Re:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Hi,
Wecanfixamonthlypaymenttoresolvetheissueamicably.
Regards
From:AhmedMadkour
Sent:Monday23March20153:34PM
To:amia_786@yahoo.com
Cc:MelissaEstrellaGhazanferHassan
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Subject:RE:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Dear Mr Mia,
The outstanding amount as per our records and those of SINOSURE is for both the following
invoices.
Invoice
Invoice
Ahmed Madkour
From:amia_786@yahoo.com[mailto:amia_786@yahoo.com]
Sent:23March201517:05
To:AhmedMadkour
Cc:MelissaEstrellaGhazanferHassan
Subject:Re:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Hi
Thankyouforyouremail.
Yes,thereweresomecomplicationsbutthathasbeenresolved.
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Paymentwillbemademonthly.
Pleaseadviseamountoutstandingasmoreamountswerepaidafterdefaultdate.
Regards
From:AhmedMadkour
Sent:Monday23March20152:40PM
To:amia_786@yahoo.com
Cc:MelissaEstrellaGhazanferHassan
Subject:37323|GOETZGOLDLLC,TONYGOETZNVandAGORDMCC
Dear Mr Mia,
With reference to our phone conversation earlier today, as agreed I hereby send you an
email with our inquiry.
As mentioned in our call, we are contacting you on behalf of the China Export and Credit
Insurance Corporation (SINOSURE) in relation to the export of Sumec Complete Equipment &
Engineering Co. to Toney Goetz NV, Goetz Gold LLC, and AGOR DMCC.
We understood that the buyer has defaulted on their payment under this purchase
agreement. We were given your name as the contact person with whom to inquire about the
reasons for nonpayment.
When convenient, please let me know if you are aware of the reason why the buyers did not
pay for this transaction and whether there is an intention to amicably settle this debt.
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Office 1004 Lake Central Tower, Burj Khalifa Area, Business Bay |P.O. Box 116759 Dubai, The United Arab Emirates|T +971 4 4324768
|M +971 55 200 0269
Recovery Advisers is a limited liability company, whose purpose is to provide claims recovery and management services as an intermediary for and on
behalf of the client. Recovery Advisers operates on the basis of an international network of local debt collecting agencies and of exclusive joint operating
agreements.
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