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{file "Consciousness & Politics (Carol Moore)" "bos239.htm"}

Consciousness & Politics

Below is rough draft overview of my "worldview" as
presented in the
book I'm working on "CONSCIOUSNESS AND POLITICS". It
is definitely
a "new age" interpretation of epistemology,
metaphysics,
metapsychology, ethics and politics.
Comments
welcome.
EPISTEMOLOGY: (how we find truth) We must recognize
that knowledge
and truth will always be elusive and subjective. As
Rupert
Sheldrake points out, even "natural laws" seem to be
evolving.
They are not static and unchanging. A balance of
intuition, reason
and empirical methods must be applied in seeking
knowledge in any
field, though the appropriate balance of methods will
depend on the
field. And these can be used to prove that some
viewpoints are
more accurate than others, even if they aren't the
"ultimate, final
truth".
Today humans are becoming aware that humans
"construct"
reality, create truth, rather than discovering it.
Reality is not
some objective, knowable entity created by God or
natural law. It
is an evolving, ever-changing process.
Individuals know reality through their
particular
personal/social/political "psychic grid". What is
important is for
each of us to decide what psychic grid we choose to
work from and
how to change it if we choose. Each of us can create
philosophically/emotionally gratifying reality. We
don't have to
just go along with what the power structure calls
reality.
METAPHYSICS: (the nature and purpose of reality)
Consciousness is
both the nature and the propose of reality. I choose
to call the
nature and purpose of reality "consciousness" because
the new

sciences show principles like consciousness operate

throughout

reality. At the subatomic level I equate the dynamic,

yang force

with imagination and will, and the integrating, yin

force with

memory and creativity. There is an inherent drive to

evolve, for
the propose of exploring full the potentials of
consciousness, and,
ultimately, to develop into fully self-conscious
beings like
ourselves.
There may well be an ever evolving
"morphogenetic field"
of human consciousness.
Individual consciousness
survive and
passes from body to body over many life times in a
process
known as "reincarnation".
The concept of consciousness must replace the
concept of
god. For if we know that consciousness is the basis
of
reality, and if we relate that to the fact that we
all have
consciousness, then it is obvious to all that we are
the
personification of natural, not "divine" principles
of
reality. The word god just confuses people, making
them think
that there is some divinity apart from and above from
themselves.
Moreover, as experience has shown, the concept
of god is
so easily corrupted by authoritarianism as to be
worse than
useless -- ie. totally counter-productive. How many
people
have been persecuted and murdered in the name of
this, that or
the other "god"??
People of good will must recognize this and give
up the
word god. We are the product of our own conscious
evolution
for our own conscious purposes.
We created
ourselves -- and
we did not create ourselves to live in ignorance of
that fact
or to make ourselves suffer!!

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METAPSYCHOLOGY: (spiritual psychology)

the human

brain is really three brains: the original reptilian

and

mammalian brains controlling automatic and reflexive

survival

functions, and, heaped over these, the unique human

"neo-

cortex" which contains enormous intellectual and

creative

potentials.
Humans do not have to be content to be ruled by

their

"lower brains," by their most basic needs for

survival,

procreation and status.

there is a
on

We know that

Abraham Maslow points out

psychological need hierarchy.

If humans remain stuck

fulfilling the lower needs (safety, belonging,

esteem) and
ignore fulfillment of the higher needs (selfactualization,
humanistic values, peak experiences) they become
frustrated,
obsessive, and addicted -- to food, drink, sex,
power, money.
The need hierarchy and the concept of chakras
describe
essentially the same phenomena. Humans rise up the
need
hierarchy or chakras in 3 ways: 1) by being aware
that they in
fact exist; 2) by creating a culture which suggests
simple, as
opposed to extravagant, definition of what
fulfillment of
these basic needs are and then creates institutions
which make
sure these basic need are fulfilled; 3) by having
myths,
symbols, and rituals which reinforce the existence
and
fulfillment of all human physical, emotional and
spiritual
needs.
Cultures worldwide have too little of the
knowledge,
attitudes and structures needed to boost us up our
need
hierarchies. However, through education and
meditation humans
can develop their higher brain, move up the need
hierarchy,
rise to higher consciousness. They can lose the
desire for
obsessive material accumulation, develop a tolerance
for
individual diversity, experience love and
connectedness with

all living things, give up the need to dominate,

exploit or

direct them, fulfill their individual potentials and

even

act
ethical
the yang
goals.
also be
that the
she/he

experience cosmic consciousness, cosmic ecstasy.

ETHICS:

(What values we should pursue, how we should

towards one and other)

system.

I believe in a yin-yang

One in which hedonism/self-actualization are

goals, and utilitarian "what's best for all" the yin

I believe our actions towards one and other must
very "yin-yang".

The yang is the libertarian view

individual is free to do as she/he pleases as long as

doe not harm others. The yin is non-violence,

cooperation and
mutual aid. They are both necessary and totally
complementary.

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POLITICS: We must begin to understand Gandhi's
message that
all conflicts - personal and political, individual
and group,
local, regional and global - should be resolved
through nonviolent mediation instead of police and military
violence.
Today's great nation states have been created and
maintained
by violence. Without violence they, would crumble,
to be
replaced by networks of non-violent communities.
Individuals must be free to establish or choose
their own
ethical system and then join in free, self-governing
communities with those who share those views.
However, this
"yang" commmunitarianism must be complemented by the
"yin"
values of non-violent conflict resolution between
communities
and mutual aid to all afflicted humans, whateve their
community.
Our means to creating this society should be
nonviolent
as the ends we seek. We should be assertive as
possible,
starting as soon as possible.

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{file "Mothers Day Message" "bos240.htm"}

A Mother's Day Message

Everyone has a mother. She is usually regarded with
much love and
affection, as the benign, loving presence in our
childhood. That is,
unless she was abusive, in which case her kids
usually write books
about her later. But who could forget the
apprehension and downright
FEAR you'd have if you had pulled your sister's hair,
or written on
the walls with a crayon, or got caught snitching a
cookie from the
cookie jar. The fear was not that of an innocent
victim of
oppression, but of a wrongdoer facing just
punishment. The fear and
loathing would inevitably subside after your behind
would stop
smarting, and she'd be back to being Benevolent Mom
again.
As it is with our mother, so is it with the
Earth Mother. Those
who live in harmony with Her prosper, their needs met
from Her bounty.
Those who do violence to Her, however, risk Her
wrath. The Mother is
not just mild Demeter and sweet Parvati, but dark
Hecate, the fierce
Durga, and the absolutely horrifying Kali. She cares
for us and loves
us, and Her patience is near boundless. But Her
patience has limits.
We live in a time when more rape has been
perpetrated on Her than in
any other time of our existance as a species.
Her Body has been
defiled by mining and over-building. Her
exhalations have been made
foul by the smoke of cars and factories. And from Her
Sacred Body, the
Anglo has extracted what could be the seeds of our
extinction--the
Uranium used in both weapons production and nuclear
power. The sacred
Hopi prophecies speak of the world being defiled by
"...a bowl full of
ashes." This could mean the various atmospheric
and underground

detonations of nuclear weapons, or the accidents

Chernobyl and
Three Mile Island.
I believe that this Bowl Full Of Ashes is not
only these, but
refers to all the destruction we have wrought on Our
Mother.
I have
had some information revealed to me, in a way that
seems to suggest
that the Mother was speaking to me, both through
Big Dreams and
through an uncanny transmission I got while hanging
out at Sepulveda
Dam Basin. This is not a boast--this is something
which I simply HAVE
to talk about. We who strive to walk in harmony
with The Mother, be
you Wiccan, or Shamanist, or just someone who cares,
have an awesome
responsibility. Putting it simply, we are the ONLY
FORCE STANDING
BETWEEN THE PEOPLE OF EARTH AND HER RIGHTEOUS WRATH.
Our efforts might not be entirely enough to
stay Her fury,
considering the dramatic upswing in natural
disasters that have
occured over the last 10 years, but it is obvious
that WE MUST TRY.
Shamanism has been "rediscovered" for a very basic
reason.
It means
the possibility of healing this Planet and regaining
awareness of Our
Mother's will. We must guard against this tradition
being bastardized
and cheapened by those who commercialize these
ways, and be very
careful to not fall into the trap of honoring
Mother to the point of
forgetting the Sky Father, and forgetting that both
Mother and Father
are the ways that The Source Of All is revealed to us
in a form we can
understand. We must also be careful to whom we
reveal information,
being mindful that an unstable mind given some of
this knowledge is
EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. But most importantly, Our Mother
is calling us to
restore our link with Her, and to work towards her
healing. We have a
lot of work ahead of us. Our very lives depend on
it.
For The Earth Mother...ALWAYS!!!!!
at

Enju.
Michelle Klein-Hass

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{file "Memory & Perception, a new Model (Paul Seymour)" "bos241.htm"}

Memory, A Proposed New Model

We will be usinga chart based on a simplified model of
Laser Holography
to look at the nature
of consciousness and memory.
This model will be
very simplified, but necessitate a brief layman's
introduction to the
principles of physics involved in holography.
It is
no accident that
mystics and wise men of all ages have often spoken
about certain aspects
of mental and spiritual activity, as well as knowledge in
terms relating to
light. Please keep in mind that this is a MODEL only,
and will fall far
short of expressing the true complexity of the subject.
Holographic Imaging Model of

Consciousness
_____________

/|
/

/ |
/____________/
|

|
Laser

______

/
/

| /
___________|/

[reference]

Prism

[beam]

OBJECT

| coherent |\->->->->->->-|
|>=>=>=>=>=| \

|)=>=>=>=>=| /
\_____|
light |/\

image]

____

\/
/
\/
\/
/\
\/
[working beam]
\/
\
/
[reflected

\/
/\
\ /
_______ \/_______
MIRROR

\/
\/
____
SCREEN

The characteristic of a laser that makes it so

useful is that it is
the source of "pure" or coherent light. "Normal" light
is composed
of
many frequencies which are all jumbled together and
out of phase.
Try
to picture the set of ripples generated in a still pool
of water when just

one pebble is dropped in.

All of the wave crests are
equidistant and in
phase and highly regular, aren't they? This is analogous
to laser light.
Now picture the same pool, only toss in a random
handful of pebbles, the
results are quite different aren't they? This is
analogous to "normal"
light.
The laser generates coherent light which enters a
prism that splits
the beam in two:
(1) the Reference Beam, and (2) the
Working Beam.
The working beam is, in turn, reflected from a mirror
and redirected back
to the object being illuminated.
When the wave fronts
of the two beams
collide on the surface, they create an "interference
pattern" which is
reflected to the screen
or photographic
plate.
This interference
pattern, when properly viewed, recreates the 3
dimensional image of the
original object.
At first look, one might well say: "O.K.,this
well for an
explanation of a laser light show, but what bearing
does it have on the
operation and function of the human mind?"
I see the
symbolism in this
model as follows:
1) The coherent light is the "light" or
conscious(ness) energy of the
Aether, sort of the "Universal Mind" if you will.
2> The Prism symbolizes two of the directional
functions of the
"Higher Self; that of illuminating both the object form
its own standpoint,
and of providing "light" (consciousness) for the Mirror.
3. The Mirror represents a function of the sub
conscious mind in the
creation of "attention" or focusing of consciousness on
the world.
works

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4. The Screen (photographic plate) is the storage
mechanism/process
for what we call memory.
Therefore the Prism, Mirror, and Screen may all be
used to symbolize
certain portions of the mind or mental processes in a
human being.
Because the Prism, Mirror,and screen are a part of
the individual and

unique to that individual,

the actual "records" or
memories (and
consciousness) of the same event or object will vary a
great deal form one
individual to another.
None of these functions exists
in isolation from
the others, so there is a process of "feedback" going
on at all times
between them. The nature of the recorded "images" will
"color" and modify
both the prism and the mirror, thereby modifying the
quqlity of all future
images, memories, or recordings. This is one of the
reasons that memories
of past events can color or distort our present
perceptions of reality so
thoroughly.
One of our tasks (many would call it a "Great
Work") in our lifetime
is to try to "purify" or refine the quality of the Prism
function, so that
the "light" that forms the "working beam" is as close
to identical in
quality to the "reference beam" as possible. Some call
this process tha
attaining of consciousness of the Higher Self. Another
task is to "polish"
and learn control over the mirror function so that the
reference beam may
be directed more precisely and with little or (ideally)
no distortion upon
the objects/events of our attention. Yet a third task is
to do our best to
perfect the recording mechanism of the screen, in order
that the meoryimage be as faithful as possible to what was presented to
it.
Another point worth keeping in mind at this
point is that ALL
memories, no matter how distorted and/or "colored"
are REAL to the
individual possessing those memories.
This fact may
well explain the
apparent anomaly of people suffering from PROVABLE noexistent abuse at an
early age.
If a traumatic and non-understood (or
misunderstood) event
occurs to an individual at an early age, the only
recording will be one of
trauma and an individual can be easily "talked into" (by
self or others)
putting that trauma into a frame of reference that
can be presently
understood. The fact That a meory is misunderstood,
distorted, etc., does
not make the any less "real" in their effect on the
individual, and it must
be dealt with as such.
Another interesting point is that these "holgrams"
or memory images

can cometogether in a synergy where the sum of the

parts becomes greater
than the whole in a process of "constellation" (in
Jungian terms) and form
whole "complexes" which take on a (seeming?) life of
their own.
If these
complexes are encouraged to grow and flourish, they can
also be percieved
by (some) others as some sort of "other worldly beings"
and can be further
fed and strengthened by others until they become
Archetypal in nature.
This process could well be the cause of many of the
"Angels" and "Demons"
of the Christian and other Pantheons.

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{file "Some Magical Musical Selections" "bos242.htm"}

Some Magical Musical Selections

This is a small listing of 'New Age' music derived in part
from suggestions
in the book 'Vision Quest' by Nevill Drury (Prism
Press,1984),
and my own limited personal experience. These albums
almost all
contain exclusively instrumental tracks, usually long & to
varying degrees
'transcendental',suggestive of 'altered states'or just
pleasant background
music well suited for meditation, magick, etc.
Fripp & Eno:

Evening Star

Edgar Froese:

Aqua
Ages
Epsilon in Malaysian Pale

Klaus Schulze:

Irrlicht
Cyborg
Timewind
Blackdance
Moondawn
Mirage

Tangerine Dream: Alpha Centauri \} in a boxed set: In the

Beginning
Zeit
\}
Atem
\}
Force Majeure
Phaedra
Rubycon
Encore

Stratosfear
Brian Eno:
produced by Eno)

Discreet Music
Ambient 1: Music for Airports
Ambient 3: Day of Radiance (by Laraaji;
Ambient 4: On Land

Ash Ra Temple:

New Age of Earth

Join Inn

Steve Halpern:

Zodiac Suite

Mike Oldfield:

Ommadawn
Incantations
Tubular Bells

Kay Gardner:

Moods and Rituals

Jade Warrior:

Waves

Robert Bearns &

Ron Dexter:
Golden Voyage
Jan Garbarek

Dis

Kitaro:

Oasis

Paul Horn

Inside the Great Pyramid

Inside The Taj Mahal

Philip Glass:

Koyaanisqatsi (soundtrack)
Einstein on the Beach (boxed set)
North Star
Glassworks

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Jean Michel Jarre: Equinoxe

Oxygene
Vangelis:

Soil Festivities
Ignacio

A resource book of inner space music compiled by Anna

Turner and
Stephen Hill based on a selection of music played by KPFA,
Berkeley
over the last 10 years - 'The Hearts of Space Guide' is
reportedly
available from PO Box 31321, San Francisco, CA 94131
Anyone with other musical suggestions feel free to add to
this list
as you will.

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{file "Chants w/ASCII Notation (L.A.Hussey)" "bos243.htm"}

ASCII MUSICAL NOTATION

developed by Leigh Ann Hussey
with help from Shadowthought and Josh Gordon
Each line of the music consists of 4 lines of
music.
The time
signature(s),
the lines between bars, and each note take up one
column, with modifiers
such
as sharps, flats, and dots extending a note up to three
columns. The time
signature is written at the beginning in the obvious
way. Three vertical
bars
(lines 2 to 4) mark the divisions between measures. Lines
1 to 3 indicate
note durations, as follows:
1/16
note
=
|
|

1/8
note
_
|
|

1/4
note

1/2
note

dotted-1/2
note

1/8
rest

1/4
rest

|
|

|
o

|
o.

'

Line 4 indicates the pitch. The numbers 1 to 8 mark the

octave including
middle C (A through F);
1' to 8', one octave above
middle C; 1" to 8",
two
octaves above middle C; '1 to '8, the octave below
middle C. A number
followed
by a # is a sharp; a number followed by a lowercase b is a flat.
Underscores
connecting a note to the next note indicate a slur.
Consider the following
examples:
HOOF AND HORN
|

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|
|
2

|
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- |
o ||
4 1
1 ||
|

7b

7b

3b

7b |

7b

Hoof and horn, hoof and horn, All that dies shall be
re-born.
Corn and grain, corn and grain, All that falls shall
rise a- gain.
PATIENCE/WAITING MEDICINE CHANT
____
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3' 5'
Hey

4
4

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o | | |
5' 2' 2' 1'
Yah Hey Hey

|
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||
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||

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o |
6__6
Yah

CALYPSO CHANGING CHANT

(1) and (2) mark beginnings for round
(1)
_
_
_
|
5 | |
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|
|
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- | |
|
|
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4 3' 2'
1'
7
7
6__1'|
We come from the
the fire,

| _

| _

| |

| |

| |

| |

2'

1'

6__1' | 7
fire,

1' 2'

3'_1' | 3'

Living in the fire,

Go back to

(2)

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_
_

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| |

| |

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| o.

o |

| | |

| |

7
1' 2'
7 1' | 3'
4'| 5' 4' 3' 1'| 3' 3' 3'
4'_4'|
turn the world around! We come from the fire, Go back to
the fire,
3'

_
|
|
|
|
|
|
2'
2' 7
turn the world
ADDITIONAL
mountain,
VERSES:
around!

_
||
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||
7 1' ||
around.

We come from the mountain, living in the

Go back to the mountain, turn the world
We come from the mountain;

Go back to the mountain, turn the world

around!
(Also: spirit, ocean, prairie, forest, river,

water, etc.)

I'm the hundreth monkey, we're a hundred

monkeys,

Be the hundreth monkey, turn the world around!

Be the hundreth monkey,
Be the hundreth monkey, turn the world around!
AUM SHIVAYA VASHI
___ ___ |

||
% ||
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||

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| | | | | |

4 3 2 4 | 5

Aum Shiva--ya-

...

___ ___ |

% |

| | | | | |

| | | | | |

| '7

3 2 1 3 | 4 '7

Va-shi,

Aum Shiva--ya-

Va-shi,

From Crowley: "Note that 'shi' means rest, the absolute

or male aspect of
the
Deity; 'va' is energy, the manifested or female side of
Deity. This mantra
represents the whole course of the Universe, from Zero
through the finite
back
to Zero."
GOD/GODDESS CHANTS
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2
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4
1 | '7
||

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_____|

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1 1 1 |
'7 | 1

1 |'7

'7 | 1

1 | 1

1 | 1

I-sis,AIn-na-

ter,Ka- li,
na.

star-te, Di- a-

O-din,Cer-nun-nos,
Shi-va,
Horned
One.

na, He- ca-te, De- me-

Merd-dyn,Man-na-nan,He- li-os,

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{file "Lilith (BBS Conversation)" "bos244.htm"}

From:
Claudia Slate
To:
Zhahai Stewart
Msg #35, 14-Jan-89
Subject: Re: Lilith
In response to your request for information on
Lilith, I looked her up in "The Woman's Encyclopedia
ofMyths and Secrets"
by Barbara Walker and published by Harper and Row.
(1983). This book was
strongly recommended to me by a Dallas parapsychology
teacher, (male at
that), who felt I might enjoy and benefit from this study
of sexism, which
is dealt with in the book from both historical and
mythical viewpoints.
I found this information, which I have paraphrased for the
most part.
Lilith, (also know as Lilit), was a relic of an early
rabbinical attempt to
assimilate the Sumero-Babylonian Goddess Belit-ili, or
Belili, to Jewish
mythology. to the Canaanites, Lilith was Baalat, the
"Divine Lady".
Hebraic tradition said Adam married Lilith because he grew
tired of mating
with animals, a common custom of Middle-Eastern herdsmen,
though the Old
Testament declared it a sin. Moslems were insistent on
the male-superior
sexual position and apparently Lilith was not Moslem,
disagreed with Adam
and flew away to the Red Sea.
God sent angels to bring Lilith back, but she refused to
return. She
supposedly spent her time mating with "demons" and gave
birth to "a hundred
children a day". (Busy woman!) So God had to produce Eve
as Lilith's more
docile replacement. Lilith became the "Great Mother" of
settled tribes who
resisted invasions of nomadic herdsmen represented by
Adam.
Early Hebrews
disliked the Great Mother who is said to have drank the
blood of Abel after
he was slain by Cain.
of

Lilith's Red
Blood, which

Sea was another

version of Kali

Ma's Ocean

gave birth to all things. There may have been a

connection between Lilith
and the Etuscan divinity Leinth, who had no face and who
waited at the gate
of the underworld along with Eita and Persipnei, (Hades
and Persephone) to
receive the souls of the dead.
The underworld gate was a
yoni and a lily,
which had no face. Admission into the underworld was
often mythologized as
a sexual union. The lily or lilu, (lotus) was the Great
Mother's flower yoni, whose title formed Lilith's name.
The story of Lilith disappeared from the Bible, but
daughters, the
lilim, haunted men for over a thousand years. The
lilim were thought
responsible for nocturnal emissions and the Jews still
made amulets to keep
away the lilim well into the Middle Ages. Greeks
adopted the lilim and
called them, Lamiae, Empusae, or Daughters of Hecate.
Christians also
adopted them and called them harlots of hell or
succubae.
They believed
that Lilith laughed every time a Christian man has a
wet dream.
The
Daughters of Lilith were supposedly very beautiful and
presumed to be so
expert at lovemaking that after an experience with one, a
man couldn't be
content with a mere mortal woman.
her

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From:
Zhahai Stewart
To:
Claudia Slate
Msg #83, 20-Jan-89
01:29pm
Subject: Re: Lilith
Thanks for the information about Lillith. Unfortunately,
it doesn't quite
answer my questions about Lillith, which are not so much
what the myth or
legend is, as how was it propagated down thru history to
us?
A while ago, someone here suggested that Lillith was
expunged from the
Christian Bible.
Others, more knowledgeable about
that than I, gave
reasons
that that was unlikely as a Christian era
event, without
postulating a monumental conspiracy. OK, if Lillith is
at least as old as

the bible, how did the myth or legend get propogated?

there lost
ancient written material? Or was it propagated orally for
many generations
even after some or many of the books of the old
testament were written
down? Or did it arise later?
Was

As for the lovemaking of the daughters of

sounds kinda fun.
(Maybe we should ask David Rice about that?)
sons of Pan spoil
mortal women as well? :-)
Barbara Walker's
seldom gives very
thorough sources.
grain of salt on
hand.

Encyclopedia

is

It is apparently

Lillith,

interesting,

Do the

but

worth keeping that

I just got her Tarot cards & book; pretty powerful images,
I thought.
I
haven't tried a reading with them yet.
Thanks for the info!
B*B ~z~
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1:104/93)
From:
Tony Iannotti
To:
Zhahai Stewart
Msg #116, 24-Jan-89
10:52am
Subject: Re: Lilith
As I understand it, Lilith is said to be as old as
the bible, because
she is mentioned in the Mishna, a form of commentary on
the Pentateuch.
Whether she was ever in what is now canonical, i.e.
Genesis per se, is hard
to prove or disprove. The Mishna was an oral tradition for
much longer. She
has been identified with Ishtar in much the same ce"
way as Mercury to
Thoth to Wotan. I don't think there is a literal
or philological
connection.
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(Opus 1:107/293)

1085

From:
Antony Landsman
To:
Zhahai Stewart
#122, 10-Jan-88
03:58pm
Subject: Re: Lilith

Msg

> Have you any insight as to where the Lillith myth

> originates? For example, what are the oldest documents
> that mention Lillith? If indeed Lillith goes back at
least
Eve

> as far as the beginnings of the old testament, was that

> myth carried verbally even while the rest of the Adam &
> show was written? Or did Lillith originate later?

Lillith is mentioned in an esoteric Jewish text

called the Midrash.
It is a compilation of mystical interpretations
surrounding the Torah (old
Testament). It was handed down orally along with the
rest of the Talmud
and was written down in the middle ages when the Rabbis
thought that these
teachings might be forgotten.
Apparently Lillith was created at the same time
as Adam (see the
initial reference to the creation of man "Man and Woman"
he created them)
but somehow disappeared from the scene due to her
rebelious nature.
I think that she was probably the primary Goddess in
the region prior
to the advent and revolution of the Jehovah followers.
I also tend to
believe that Innana was one of her descendants.
Blessed Be
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(1:15/27)
From:
Inanna Seastar
To:
Antony Landsman
#145, 25-Jan-89
07:32pm
Subject: Re: Lilith
The only Lilith likely
huluppu-tree is
Lilith Velkor... :-)

Msg

to be

found in

_my_ family

On a more sirius note (even though I don't use Sirius

any more; I use

Gnome), there is no question that Inanna is a third- or

later-generation
goddess in the Sumerian pantheon.
I rather suspect
that the image of
Inanna as THE Goddess before whom all other deities at
least swear a little
fealty comes from Uruk. Inanna was the matron goddess of
Uruk, and most of
our legends and such concerning her were dug up
(literally) in Uruk. The
myth of the huluppu-tree shows a young Inanna, in a
young Uruk, trying to
get help from other deities of other, older cities to get
rid of a problem
that was too big for her to handle at the time.
The
problem is solved by
Gilgamesh, King of Uruk, rather than by any foreigner.
Likewise, the tale
of Inanna & Enki & the _me's_ (civic virtues), shows a
young goddess of a
young city who has managed to elevate her city into the
first rank.
In
winning the _me's_ from Enki, Inanna adds to them by the
time she gets her
virtuous cargo back to Uruk.
I do not recall whether
Lilith was formally
mentioned as being in Inanna's lineage, though.
Blessed Bheer--drinking Enki
under the table--

Inanna

1086

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(1:104/45.5)
ZS> "As for the lovemaking of the daughters of
Lillith,
sounds ZS> kinda fun. (Maybe we should ask David Rice
about
that?)
Er, were
It's
the

18

interested

in

some

phone

numbers?

extreamly hard work to love a daughter of

Lilith,

but

rewards are undeniably worth it.

I've

vs.

you

started

an

extended study on strong Lilith women

the domesticated Eve ones.

So

far,

with

only

about

tallies
with

in

(painstakingly

and

personaly

great, er, debauch, with plans on adding

of

researched

many

hundreds

more into the study), the following has been observed:

Most

American

woman

men give out long before the Lilithian

(or any other) will.

Lilith will say "Excuse me, kind

sir,"

(as she can't remember his name at the moment). "You're

not

finished, are you?!" and Eve will say "Gee, that was
great!"
and reach for the batteries and flee into the bathroom
for
an hour.
Lesbians tend to be strongly Lilithian. This may be
because
"the only thing men are good FOR they aren't good AT,"
as
the true and valid saying goes. Also, most if not all
men
are little cry babies, and Lilith can't stand for
that
nonsence.
Conversly, Eve women always knew men make horrible
lovers,
but resign themselves to 4 minutes of sex twice a week,
when
they'd rather have 16 hours of sex every day. This is
why,
perhaps, Eveian women make such good Catholics.
If your typical male pig says, rightly, that a woman's
place

is

Eve

in

the bed, Lilith will say "Eat shit and die!" and

will say "Yes, dear," and hate herself.