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message1:byAntonomasia(new)
Oct20,201205:55AM
Thank you for the invitation, but I only have the haziest idea of what urban fantasy
even is, and I'm pretty certain I haven't read any.
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message2:byMike(thePaladin)(new)
Oct20,201207:40AM
If you're interested try some of Jim Butcher's Dresden books and/or Ben
Aaronovitch's Rivers of London books. That will give you a good idea.
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message3:byRichard(new)
Oct20,201209:10AM
message4:byCandiss(new)
Oct20,201209:29AM
I am much more of a standalone reader than a reader of series, so I'm afraid I've
only read a couple of these.
I did add one to the list that intrigues me because I've enjoyed the author's non-UF
fantasy and science fiction in the past - Tad Williams.
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message5:byClouds(new)
Oct20,201209:47AM
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This is not a genre of 'quality' writing - but it's a genre of really, really, 'fun' reading!
I decided to start the list because there wasn't one like it out there. The biggest UF list
on GR includes all books in a series, so it's gotten swamped by the many books in the
most popular series. It also has a very broad/unedited definition of what UF is, so I'm
happier to start one myself and have some control.
So - if you're not currently (or ever) a UF series reader, no problem! Thanks for stopping
by and checking out my latest little project :-)
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message6:byMike(thePaladin)(new)
Oct20,201210:02AM
You're right that the only other list about UF here is...badly degenerated. It started
as UF but people have added high fantasy, low fantasy, epic fantasy and every other
kind of fantasy...and in some cases nonfantasy.
I find that especially a lot of readers bleed their definitions of UF and PNR (ParAnormal
Romance) together.
The listopia lists are like that.
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message7:byShanshad(new)
Oct20,201211:54AM
Paranormal Romance and Urban Fantasy are close cousins and sometimes it's
tough to distinguish between them. Some don't quite fit any def. For instance
Hamilton's work ranges from horror, to UF, to PNR to outright erotica. One way I tend to
define PNR is if the series remains, but every story has another guy/girl romance to
fulfill. Usually, if the storylines feature ongoing characters it can be danged hard to
maintain a real romance plot arc, so while it may be a UF subplot, it's rare that a couple
continues on in PNR books from book to book unless it morphs into erotica . . . The Kate
Daniels series I regard as UF, but the last book--a related character's story--is pretty
much pure PNR. Noticed someone had added Beautiful Creatures. I'd challenge that
based on the fact it's NOT urban.
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message8:byCandiss(new)
Oct20,201211:58AM
I see Zoo City on the list, and while I definitely think it's a good, solid UF, I don't
see any indication that it's part of a series.
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message9:byClouds(new)
Oct20,201212:39PM
Hi Candiss,
I know! There are several books currently on the list which don't appear to be part of
any series. I thought my criteria was quite simple!
*exasperated sigh*
I've already deleted a dozen or so books that were not Book 1 in their series. Removing
those that aren't part of a series AT ALL is next on the list.
My only hesitation is that I'm not certain with all of them and will have to do a bit of
research. Eg - 1Q84 was originally published in 3-parts, but does that make it a series
when you can buy it all in one book and it's not called an omnibus?
Clearly list admin is going to be more complex than I thought!
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message10:byClouds(new)
Oct20,201212:58PM
OK - I think I've got the list compliant with rules 2 & 3 now :-)
I even went into a couple of the books that weren't showing their series on the list and
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added them to the titles properly. And fixed a Lackey series that had books 1 & 2 the
wrong way around.
I'm not sure where to start with making sure the list is complaint with rule 1. Where to
draw the boundaries for UF? What I currently have is a list of 53 series, each of which at
least 1 person believes is Urban Fantasy.
Not bad for Day 1. :-)
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message11:by[deleteduser](new)
Oct20,201201:47PM
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Oct20,201201:54PM
message13:byJames(new)
Oct20,201205:03PM
I don't think I've ready any UF I certainly haven't read anything on this list. But I
did have the top three already on my to-read list (as well as another two in the top
30) so count me interested. I guess I've got some reading to do so I can vote, and if I like
those at least I've got somewhere to come and look for further recommendations...
[Also, I de-duplicated three books on the list earlier today as well.]
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message14:byShanshad(new)
Oct20,201205:06PM
Huh. Burning Water might be the first written of the Diana Tregarde books, but it's
not the first Chronologically speaking. What's the rule on Goodreads for that?
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message15:byJames(new)
Oct20,201205:11PM
Shanshad wrote: "Burning Water might be the first written of the Diana Tregarde books, but
it's not the first Chronologically speaking. What's the rule on Goodreads for that?"
It's marked as being the first in the series, I'd assume that's the ruling. It'll be more
complicated for books that belong to multiple series I guess...
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message16:byShanshad(new)
Oct20,201206:34PM
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Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "If you're interested try some of Jim Butcher's Dresden books
and/or Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London books. That will give you a good idea."
Rivers of London would be the most likely as a few of my friends have read it already.
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Oct20,201207:16PM
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I had no idea that Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London and Midnight Riot were the
same book! I guess they got released under different names (and vastly different
covers) on either side of the Atlantic.
I'll have to remove one from my TBR. It looks like Midnight Riot is the US name...pity,
Rivers of London is a better title - and far, far better cover - in my opinion.
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message19:byClouds(new)
Oct21,201201:49AM
Candiss wrote: "I had no idea that Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London and Midnight Riot
were the same book!
Rivers of London is also a far more relevant title as one of the story strands is about the
river spirits of Mr & Mrs Thames... no idea why they renamed for the US release.
Candiss wrote: "Clouds, what are you considering "contemporary?" Do you mean contemporary
to the time the author wrote it (For example, a book written in the 1980s about a city in the 1980s
would be "contemporary..."
Good question, Candiss :-) I've been struggling for a good definition of UF for a few
weeks now and have been messaged a few people on here for opinions. The definition
I've posted at the top is the best 'simple' phrase I've come up with.
You've specifically questioned my use of 'contemporary' - I use it in the loose sense, of
the present time, or modern times. So a writer writing in the 80s, setting UF in the 80s
would definitely be contemporary (to me). Likewise, a writer working now on a story set
back in the 80s would still be contemporary (to me) because the 80s are still a modern
era. So I guess my instinct places UF as a post 50s or 60s setting genre convention?
Always happy to debate that assertation though :-)
And yes, I'm aware we already have steampunk and alt-history UF in the list! For now
I'm just going to keep an eye on rules two and three being followed and leave rule 1 up
for debate.
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Oct21,201203:53PM
message21:byClouds(new)
Oct22,201212:33AM
Ala wrote: "Why'd The Hum and the Shiver get removed?"
As you mentioned, book 2 should be out next year, but isn't out yet - so it's not
currently a part of a series. Sorry.
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message22:by[deleteduser](new)
Oct22,201209:31AM
You'll have to remove Discount Armageddon, The Dirty Streets of Heaven, Libriomancer,
Royal Street, and Control Point as well then.
None have a book two published yet.
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message23:byShanshad(new)
Oct22,201209:39AM
message24:byClouds(new)
Oct22,201201:24PM
Hi Ala,
I respect your staunch defence of The Hum and the Shiver - but the book wasn't listed as
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part of a series here on GR yet, and there's no listing for a sequel here yet.
Discount Armageddon, Royal Street & Control Point both have sequels announced with
titles and covers. The Dirty Streets of Heaven and Libriomancer both have the next two
titles in the series announced. Although none of these are published yet, I'm satisfied
that there is sufficient evidence provided that they will be part of a series.
I'm committed to maintaining the list to design spec as much as possible - but I haven't
read all these books so I can only work with the information available to me here on
GoodReads.
If you know more information about a sequel for The Hum and the Shiver then is
currently present on the site, go get yourself a librarian status - add the book, and the
series - and give me some solid info to work from!
Kind regards,
Clouds
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message25:byClouds(new)
Oct22,201201:30PM
Hi Shanshad,
I'm delighted to say that I've never heard of CyberFantasy! New genre definitions are
popping up every time I turn my back. How marvellous.
:-)
Part of the point of this list was to encourage discussion about what UrbanFantasy is
(and is not) so this is all part of the fun.
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message26:by[deleteduser](new)
Oct22,201202:28PM
I see.
I'm not going to bother with the hassle of librarian status just to get a book onto your
list. I don't know the first thing about being a librarian and would most likely screw up
something.
The author has listed the second book on his site. It even has a preliminary page here on
GR for the second book. It's titled "Wisp of a thing" by Alex Bledsoe.
Your list though. Roll with it how you want.
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message27:byCandiss(lasteditedOct22,201206:30PM)(new)
Oct22,201206:29PM
message28:byShanshad(new)
Oct22,201208:30PM
Hi Clouds!
I don't know if Cyberfantasy would be the official term--but it fit for this series.
Most of the series takes place in a multiverse created by a deity that transformed
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themselves into a divine computer to manage the worlds. It's a fun romp through
reinterpretations of gods and goddeses.
I've been known to go crazy specific with organizing subsets of stuff. Like I've been
trying to figure out a labelling system I can use to separate Urban Fantasy (set in cities)
from contemp fantasy set in suburbia, small towns or wilderness. Calling it Rural
Fantasy doesn't quite fit, but I'd like to designate a difference between them that would
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message29:byJames(lasteditedOct23,201201:38AM)(new)
Oct23,201201:35AM
Candiss wrote: "I have librarian status, so after visiting the author's website and learning
that Wisp of a Thing is indeed th..."
Ha, I just went to do the same and saw you'd beaten me to it. I added a starting
description from the author's website to the book too. Somebody (who's actually read
the book) will need to re-add it to the list now too...
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message31:byJames(lasteditedOct23,201202:26AM)(new)
Oct23,201202:26AM
Does Metro 2033 (currently 53rd) meet the criteria for the list? It appears to be
more SF than UF, and while it's setting is Moscow, it's a dystopian Moscow of the
future. It sounds like a great book though.
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message32:byShanshad(lasteditedOct23,201205:30AM)(new)
Oct23,201205:29AM
Umm, just to add, I don't think Grimspace works at all--that's pure SF, or maybe
space opera, but not fantasy I think that someone meant to put up Ann Aguirre's UF
series which I think begins wBlue Diablo. It would probably be worth fixing if someone
can put in Ann's other series instead of her SF one.Blue Diablo
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message33:byClouds(new)
Oct24,201211:29AM
Hi James,
It's hard to comment with certainty without having read the book - but from the
synopsis here (and Wiki) - it does appear to be post-apocalyptic, with radiation creating
mutant monsters - rather than 'fantasy' creatures.
It sounds good, but I shall remove.
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message34:byClouds(new)
Oct25,201203:38AM
Hi Shanshad,
It's always hard for me to comment with any authority without having read the book.
The synopsis for Grimspace on GR/Wiki definitely sounds like sci-fi - but the first three
reviews I've looked at all mention fantasy elements and specifically name-check the UF
genre. So
I'm content
to leave
it on the list
for now.
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message35:byShanshad(new)
Oct25,201207:37AM
Hi Clouds,
Thing is, I've read this book. If nothing else it takes place in outerspace and on space
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ships and space stations and other planets. It's an outerspace romp. There are some soft
science, possibly fantasy elements, but it's set well in the future on other words. Best I
can tell you.
Shan
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message36:byJames(new)
Nov28,201206:35AM
Finally, I read a book on this list and was able to vote ... Happy Day!
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message37:byAl(new)
Feb16,201506:40AM
Perusing the list [which is awesome & just what I was looking for] when I came
across several books after the first in a series. Don't know how often you
check/update this so thought I'd send this along as an FYI
305 Twenty Palaces #2
312 Twenty Palaces #3
316 Shadow Reader #2
322 Shadow Reader #3
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message38:byJames(lasteditedFeb16,201508:51AM)(new)
Feb16,201508:51AM
@Clouds, I added The Secrets of Life and Death , although with some concerns that
might make you want to nix it.
Firstly, although it's the first in a series, the second book isn't published yet (later this
year though). Secondly, I'm not entirely sure how 'urban' it is. Set mostly in Devon, and
large parts of it are in Exeter, it is mostly set outside of the city rather than in it thoughts?
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Jun16,201508:47AM
Book 195 Devil's Bride isn't a paranormal/urban fantasy. its a regency romance. I
know cause I read it. I don't know why anyone would add it to this list.
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Grimspace -- I personally would not class this as UF, but as SciFi. It is set in space,
it is not set in present day or on Earth (mostly), there are no 'fantastic', i.e.
supernatural characters, but rather aliens...
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Mar19,201602:42PM
Just wanted to thank you for the list. I know it must be a lot of work, but it makes it
a lot easier for the rest of us to find new series to try.
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This list makes me sad -- it reminds me I'd have to live a few hundred years or
more to read all the books I want to read!
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