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Practical Steps to Prepare for a
Lights Out Scenario (Part 1)
Jeremiah Johnson
May 7th, 2015
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Ben, Im doing this article for you as I promised, and I hope it will help you (and others)
to make those decisions in the critical moments and days following an EMP
(Electromagnetic Pulse) event. Although I had plenty of science courses in college, I am
not a scientist. Certainly someone with a scientific background will comment on this
article. Let me state this: Scientists, I welcome all comments, positive or negative, but
please make them proactive. These articles are forums where the writers are emcees
that introduce topics for discussion and present some salient points. You guys and gals
are the ones who pick up the topics and run the football in for the TD.
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(objective rally point) where everyone can plan, exchange ideas, and attain better levels
of awareness and preparation for the times to come. In this light, there is a lot of
knowledge out there awaiting use. Take the knowledge you amass, step up to the plate,
and take the swing: do the best you can with what you have. And if it isnt perfect, so
what? You give it your best shot and then adjust fire from there.
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So here it is. Scenario 1 finds you on your way to work. You just dropped the kids off
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to school and youre out on the freeway heading toward work at 8:05 am, armed with a
cup of coffee and your local radio station. All of a sudden the radio crackles and all of
the power in your vehicle cuts off and you drift (hopefully safely!) to a halt. You do a
head check: all of your fellow commuters on the road are experiencing the same
problem, except one guy in a 54 Ford pickup truck who passes right by you. You
look at your wristwatch and it is blank. Your cell phone is off, and out. You notice a
traffic light ahead of you is out, and the convenience store and its sign on the corner are
devoid of lights. Somewhere in the heart of the American Midwest, about 200 miles
above the ground, an ICBM just went off and delivered an EMP to the U.S.
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This article and the series are going to focus on some basic things we can do to help us
prepare beforehand for such a scenario. Almost all of the readers here at SHTFplan
knows about what an EMP is and some basics about it. We are not going to delve into
all of the properties of the EMP. For those who havent heard of it, an Electromagnetic
Pulse (EMP) is a high-density electrical field that can damage or destroy electronic
devices. EMP can affect cars and trucks, computers, electrical appliances, aircraft,
power transmission grids, and anything unshielded from it. This can be delivered by a
missile or a satellite and would have devastating effects on the U.S. power grid and
infrastructure, as mentioned in this citation:
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INFRASTRUCTURES, April 2008: Page 45: It is not practical to try
to protect the entire electrical power system or even all high value
components from damage by an EMP event. There are too many
components of too many different types, manufactures, ages, and
designs. The cost and time would be prohibitive. Widespread collapse
of the electrical power system in the area affected by EMP is virtually
inevitable after a broad geographic EMP attack
Readers, I think you grasp the concept. Now lets discuss what we can do about it.
The first thing I propose to you:
Low tech your supplies as much as possible as your base.
Rely on your basics that do not rely upon electricity or technology. I have mentioned
some items in previous articles that were going to stress here, as it is all interrelated.
This list is neither in order nor exhaustive:
1. Lensatic Compass: good old-fashioned GI equipment; durable, reliable, and
affordable. If you must carry your wrist compass (electronic), make sure your
Lensatic is available for backup, and make sure you know how to use it.
2. Hand-crank flashlight: has its own little generator and doesnt rely on batteries
3. A Good Automatic Movement Watch: You need to keep time and coordinate
things with your family after the event. Youll have to really shop and find one
with a good warranty.
4. Slide Rule: Yes, you may find the need to make complex calculations in a hurry.
The Uncle Caveman abacus just wont do the trick on some things. Pick up a
slide rule and go online or find references on how to use it.
5. Optics not requiring batteries: Those rangefinders and Steiners just lost their
tech, and that wonderful laser crosshair reticle with range-tab vanished. Any
scope for a weapon needs to not be dependent on any batteries, electronic
optics, or laser devices.
6. Security devices: In this case, locks, safes (guns, valuables, etc), automobiles
(touch pad entry), and anything requiring electricity or electronics to entermake
em manual. What good is a gun safe that works electronically and then you have
to blow the door to retrieve the weapons?
7. Vehicles: How high-tech is your vehicle? The 54 Ford truck in the example will
probably still be good to go; however, the Lamborghini may have just become a
lawn ornament in memoriam. Well cover more on this later.
8. Well Water: The water pump isnt going to work unless you have a genny, and
even then it may not. What do you do? I ordered a kit from a guy name John
Tatman: the EZ Water Well Hand Pump that has a special valve he supplies you
and you build the pump out of PVC. The guy is great; he lets you talk to him
directly on his cell phone if you have a problem. The kit works to wells up to
175 feet deep, at 4-5 gallons per minute; you can order it online. The whole kit
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9. Food: Yes, food. How are you going to save what is in the fridge? Prepare by
having adequate supplies of charcoal and a couple of grills (I recommend a
Brinkman). Also, now is the time for canning supplies. Pick up a green twoburner Coleman camp stove that works on dual fuel (Coleman/white gas, and
gasoline). You can use this to fire up the pressure canners and water-bath
canners at a controlled rate. [Note: If you want to read about a mad
scramble with food, go to Tess Penningtons Ready Nutrition site and find
my articles on how my wife and I made it through Hurricane Katrina] I
strongly recommend visiting your local County Extension Office or the local
Community College for a Canning Course.
An Additional note on food: Keeping in the fridge only what is necessary for about a
week and putting the lions share into canned food, dry goods, or long shelf-life
(dehydrated, mylar packed) foods is probably your best bet to safeguard your food
supply in the long haul. Make sure to FIFO (first in, first out) your stock to keep the
freshest/most recent purchases in storage.
10. The Bathroom: Yes, #1 and #2, always there! I highly recommend (if you dont
already compost) at the bare minimum a portable potty of the type that many
seniors and those with health issues utilize. There are 4-gallon bags available in a
roll in Wal-Mart for the bucket liner that are about $3.50 and have 75 bags to a
roll. They last about a week. When all is said and done, you can do a controlled
burn of them and save your water supplies/space in your septic tank.
We have covered a short list of what you need for low-tech equipment starters. But
what about what you already have? How do you protect your gadgets and gizmos from
the EMP? In the reference section at the end of this article, I have cited some works
that will give you more EMP information and a site that you can research to find more
information on Faraday Cages, which most of you guys and gals have heard about
already. But just in case: What is the Faraday Cage? It is a device enabling objects
stored within its confines to be shielded from EMP and other types of charges. The
scientist Michael Faraday expostulated its theorems back in 1836.
Copper and aluminum are the two best metals (in order) to use for your cage structures;
however, steel will work. The main point is you must have a little background
knowledge of what is needed. Maxwells equations relevant to a conductor are relevant
here. The efflux (the waves: radio, gamma, etc) originating with an EMP is a broadbanded grouping. Regarding Maxwells equation: Any resident excess charge whether
fixed or time-varying must reside on the conductors effective surface; an excess
disturbance would flow around a continuous conductors surface from one end to the
other. The interior of such a conductor would not experience this flux.
The equation shows that a solid object that can be closed off (such as an ammo can or a
metal trash can with tight fitting lid) without gaps can be effectively employed for a
Faraday cage. This also illustrates how a grounding rod would not be needed if the
gaps are closed off correctly (or if you are going to enmesh a whole room/structure and
the wavelengths are not smaller than the apertures). As I mentioned previously, Im not
a scientist; however, the information is out there and there is no need to reinvent the
wheel.
There is a rule that I use for myself. You will have to gauge your budget and availability
of equipment to see if you can apply it for your situation. Here it is:
Rule: Any electronic equipment should be bought in pairs/two (2) of
each, with one out for use and a second in a Faraday Cage.
This may seem a no brainer, however, this insures that if you lose something? You
may only lose one and have a backup for later. In addition, if theres time to forsee it
coming, you may be able to take that operational piece and stick that in a cage prior to it
hitting the fan. Here are a list of indispensibles and important items, non-exhaustive, for
the cages:
Radiological Survey Meter, a.k.a. Geiger counter
Night vision devices
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Scopes/red-dot sights/laser sights/electronic optics/range finders

Laptop computer (worth its weight in gold post-event)
Motorolas and hand-held communication devices
Batteries and chargers (solar and/or plug ins)
Battery-powered IR/movement sensors
Calculators/wristwatches/battery testerssmall electronic aids
***ANY medical device to maintain or sustain life (diabetes testers,
hearing aids, etc)
Win the game with your backups. Stick them in cages and forget about them until you
need them. Were going to cover cages and other protective measures in Part 2. This
will get you started, especially regarding your planning. Assess your stance and what is
in place right now. What do you and your family require in terms of specialty gear? Do
your research and find out about EMPs and begin to formulate a plan. I
wholeheartedly welcome any and all discussion on this topic and look forward to
reading your comments. Seriously, we have some real experts out there, and those
comments are a gold mine for everyone (yours truly included).
Everyone have a great day and Ill have Part 2 ready for you soon.
JJ
Jeremiah Johnson is the Nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United
States Army Special Forces (Airborne). Mr. Johnson is also a Gunsmith, a
Certified Master Herbalist, a Montana Master Food Preserver, and a graduate
of the U.S. Armys SERE school (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape). He
lives in a cabin in the mountains of Western Montana with his wife and three
cats. You can follow Jeremiahs regular writings at SHTFplan.com.
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1. MommaD says:
Comment ID: 3381799
May 7, 2015 at 12:36 pm
I have a question, if you have a garage made of metal, including the roof and its
completely insulated, including the doors, is it like a big faraday cage? There are
no windows in it.
Angry Old White Guy says:
Comment ID: 3381802
May 7, 2015 at 12:50 pm
Do a search on the internet, I know Ive seen articles on how to trun a
metal shipping container into a large Faraday Cage.
I believe theres something special you need to do around the door where
it attaches to the metal frame.
MommaD says:
Comment ID: 3381805
May 7, 2015 at 12:53 pm
Ok, thanks Angry, Ill see what I can find. Ill check out those
books too Satori.
Anonymous says:
Comment ID: 3382283
May 8, 2015 at 5:21 am
If you can hear a radio in it, it probably is not a Faraday
cage.
charlie f says:
Comment ID: 3387573
May 16, 2015 at 10:57 am
If a microwave oven is properly sealed when you put a
cell phone in it and dial the number it shouldnt ring. I
wonder if an old microwave that you can find at most
dumps can be used as a Faraday cage???
Omar Fink says:
Comment ID: 3387823
May 16, 2015 at 7:45 pm
That is not correct. A microwave oven will not
make
a good Faraday cage.
http://optimizesurvival.com/microwave-ovensare-not-good-faraday-cages/
swinging richard says:
Comment ID: 3381838
May 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm
AOWG, I think I remember reading that the cage needs to be
grounded.
Cat Herder says:
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Comment ID: 3381875

May 7, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Angry,
In order to seal the door (inasmuch as possible for EMP/CME
pulse) attach brass or aluminum finger stock around the mating
surfaces.
However, if trying to seal the roll up door, thatll bring up a whole
new set of items-however it is doable. (The ones Ive worked in
were already set up-Lindgren RF enclosures-prohibitively expensive
for most of us ).
I built a small cage (nope, not for snipe hunts-use burlap bags for
that:) ) and its big enough to hold 9 square yards of stuff.
Be well.
Cat
Dan C. Watkins says:
Comment ID: 3382809
May 8, 2015 at 10:18 pm
Whenever you do finally get a working Faraday cage, line the
inside with cardboard or any other material that will not
conduct a charge or if the item stored inside is small enough.
Put it in a sock so no emp charge will be transmitted to what
your trying to protect by touch.
Prepper1 says:
Comment ID: 3381943
May 7, 2015 at 4:12 pm
You tube has some great videos also
Babycatcher55 says:
Comment ID: 3381804
May 7, 2015 at 12:52 pm
There are gaps where the walls meet the ground, the doors hinge, the roof
meets the Walls, etc.im sure you could take part of it and reinforce in to
make a Faraday room
sixpack says:
Comment ID: 3381855
May 7, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Maxwells equation: Any resident excess charge whether fixed or
time-varying must reside on the conductors effective surface; an
excess disturbance would flow around a continuous conductors
surface from one end to the other.
In plain english, would a steel trash can sitting on a bare concrete
floor, redirect the current on the outside of the can, into the concrete
and disperse it into the (earth) ground?
Of course the interior of the can must be insulated from the steel
outside for it to work.
Does that sound about right for a simplistic translation?
I say this, because years ago I was working on an older TV set. My
screwdriver touched the high-voltage rectifier cage. I happened to
be standing on a concrete floor, barefoot. Needless to say, the
charge knocked the sheet out of me on its way to the ground.
Cat Herder says:
Comment ID: 3381892
May 7, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Sixpack,
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LMAO!! Thats how I started in Electronics years agoexcept I had my hand on a cold water pipe.
In reference to the steel trash can, Ive seen reference to it on
U Tube, nesting within insulated from the exterior should
work. So long as the insulators are not conductive-use
fiberglass (no metal embedded stuff) for standoffs. Wood
absorbs moisture and already has a certain amount of
moisture-so it would defeat the purpose.
If you can find (and afford) Invar rods, theyre RF neutraland make good standoffs. Dunno about delrin rods though
but I can check on the electromagnetic properties.
Be well.
Cat
sixpack says:
Comment ID: 3381988
May 7, 2015 at 5:22 pm
Once I got it right on the boob, because I was leaning
over it!
I never did that again.
I remember learning to use one of those old tube
checkers, looked like a fat briefcase with different
sized sockets, some gauges and flip switches on it.
Thats how young I got interested in electricitytubes
were still the thing.
MaryB says:
Comment ID: 3382676
May 8, 2015 at 5:06 pm
Delrin is used as RF insulators so it is good to go. But
you do not need to be that elaborate. Several layer of
clear bubble wrap will give plenty of insulation value
inside a Faraday cage. Technically you do not need to
insulate anything but it adds a level of protection
Jim says:
Comment ID: 3382758
May 8, 2015 at 8:25 pm
be sure to ground the lid also.
GrandpaSpeaks says:
Comment ID: 3381949
May 7, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Six, it was because there was probably dampness
somewhere. Cured dry concrete will not be satisfactory for
EMP grounding. An 8ft copper alloy ground rod driven in or
a flat grounding plate dug in will work. As per local electrical
service grounding Standards. Use a multimeter to measure
actual grounding at the particular site. Damp soils vs dry
sandy soils require more or less grounding to achieve proper
continuity. Proper grounding is critical for effective EMP
protective purposes. Think lightning strike not a carpet static
spark. Both however can damage electronics. There are
silvered mylar bags specially designed to electromagnetically
protect electronics in transit. Aviation avionics departments
and aircraft instrument repair stations use them. Put
electronics in these bags, place bags inside a 6 sided metal
enclosure, metal enclosure is wrapped with metal screening
with no breaks in the wrapping. Attach a ground wire from
the screen to the ground rod or plate. #4 wire minimum.
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Once the faraday cage is constructed the theory for

grounding it is the same as for any lightning protection or
electrical service installation. After all, Tin foil hats must be
worn proper in order to be called dapper.
sixpack says:
Comment ID: 3381991
May 7, 2015 at 5:24 pm
So, those people Ive seen running around with the
bad hair day, actually just failed to properly ground
their tinfoil hats?
walter middy says:
Comment ID: 3382058
May 7, 2015 at 7:42 pm
Might also want to wrap one end of a cheap piece of speaker
wire around the trash can handle and the other to a water
piper or something. A cheap ground. Also- I saw thin, tinfoil
coated (looked like foil) insulation at the local box store,
would that, taped together with the same foil tape work as a
shield?
Open question here- does the majority of readers here
believe an EMP to be realistic? Possible of course, anythings
possible, I cant afford all of the realistic threats let alone the
possible ones.
Someone else says:
Comment ID: 3382124
May 7, 2015 at 9:28 pm
Walter..warnings of emp are happening daily alt
media, msm, EVERYWHERE. Fingers pointing at
who would be to blame. They are warning us that its
going to happen. When its out there all over the place
you have to take it seriously.
Kulafarmer says:
Comment ID: 3382142
May 7, 2015 at 10:06 pm
Yes and no,
Ill look for the link but according to the piece i read it
will primarily be stuff attached to long line electrical
systems affected, and some radio related hardware as
well, but most, not all, but most automobiles will be
driveable, would have to be pretty major to trash
everything and like the article i read mentioned we will
have much bigger problems than electrical stuff not
working, like the radiation that would accompany any
act be it of nature or man that would be so destructive.
If a solar flare is big enough to cause that sort of
damage there is a good chance we will be exposed to
elevated levels of various different spectral rays that
will basicly cook us, its just that the light aspects travel
slower than the others. Im no scientist though, just
repeating some analasys i read.
Ishimo says:
Comment ID: 3382161
May 7, 2015 at 10:35 pm
Not arguing with you Kula but I suspect the
article you are talking about probably was
addressing a nuclear explosion at or about
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ground level. In that case the EMP would be

extremely localized and not of much overall
concern. The blast, radiation, lack of oxygen,
etc would definitely make you sit up and pay
attention.
A High Altitude EMP takes place about 370
miles above the surface. It produces three
elements two of which are so fast that they
might as well be the same. First is the blast itself
pushing the earths magnetic field out of place
producing a fluctuating induced current into long
conductors which can set them on fire. That is
the same thing that occurs from a solar CME.
This can go on for several minutes as the earths
magnetic field swings around until it finally settles
back into its proper place. This doesnt affect
electronic devices which arent connected to a
long conductor such as a power cord and can
be easily protected against.
The other two elements are nasty. They cover a
bunch of frequencies and fry sensitive electronic
components. Cars may or may not be affected
depending on the strength of the initial blast.
Oddly enough, a super EMP device is quite
easy to produce, is nowhere as complicated as
a thermonuclear device and produces its ugly
from photons.
Theres no worry about radiation exposure from
a HEMP. It occurs above the ionosphere and
the radiation will never affect you. Folks in
airplanes, hospitals, with pace makers and so on
will be in serious trouble immediately.
Kulafarmer says:
Comment ID: 3382187
May 7, 2015 at 11:46 pm
Good info, thank you,,,
nlightened2 says:
Comment ID: 3382155
May 7, 2015 at 10:27 pm
Actually the EMP threat is the NO.1 THREAT bythe
last few homeland securuty cheifs. Its the main thing I
prep for.
robertcr5 says:
Comment ID: 3382566
May 8, 2015 at 2:31 pm
The DOD and military contractors belieive in EMP. So
much so that they have spent many billions in
hardening.
Nobama says:
Comment ID: 3382067
May 7, 2015 at 7:53 pm
You do not need to ground your Faraday cage. Grounding it
will not make it more effective at shielding out
electromagnetic fields. What matters is the continuity of the
surrounding metal shielding, i.e. no gaps at any seams.
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A microwave oven makes a great Faraday cage. Buy an old

microwave from a garage sale, working or not, as long as it
isnt damaged where the door seals against the chassis it
makes a great place to store electronic items in the garage.
Just dont plug it in.
Omar Fink says:
Comment ID: 3382083
May 7, 2015 at 8:21 pm
You are correct about not needing the grounding and
continuity being the key for effectiveness of shielding.
However, microwaves do not make good faraday
cages for EMP. While they have built in shielding to
prevent RF leakage, it must be designed for specific
wavelengths only. This is easy to test by placing a
radio and/or cell phone inside the microwave (DO
NOT TURN ON THE MICROWAVE WHILE
DOING THIS). The higher frequencies seem to
penetrate easily. Simple tests doing this with a
shortwave radio shows the microwave does shield
somewhat in the 100 mhz range but does not above
that range and cell phones that can operate in the Ghz
range do not experience any shielding effect at all.
Aluminum foil works well if it has no gaps or holes in it
and is cheap.
just me says:
Comment ID: 3383134
May 9, 2015 at 2:37 pm
We actually tried our old microwave out. we
place a cell phone in it and called. No signal,
call did not go through. We are good to go!
klockwerks says:
Comment ID: 3382746
May 8, 2015 at 7:54 pm
Why couldnt a guy just buy some metal garbage cans and fix
those up. They would hold a great deal of stuff. Thanks in
advance for the reply
FreeSlave says:
Comment ID: 3381817
May 7, 2015 at 1:13 pm
Heres a terrible nightmare that combines several items:
o Grid down indefinitely. (EMP, Cyber-attack, whatever)
o Civic unrest. (Looting, burning, rioting, pillaging)
o Martial Law.
Nightmare scenario. Not implausible.
Gonetoolong says:
Comment ID: 3381836
May 7, 2015 at 1:39 pm
There is no way in hell that you would have and EMP event
WITHOUT the other 2 that you mention. Spot on. These are a
given IMO. Loss of electricity and gadgets would send most into a
tailspin. Season would not matter. For me, winter would be worst (I
lack a great source for heat in the winter), but anytime of year will
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be hell on earth if a grid down actually occurred.

fishandmud says:
Comment ID: 3382101
May 7, 2015 at 8:49 pm
Gone : Easy remedies.
1St : Your vehicle. Get a ammo can. Make it a fairday. Go to
your local junkyard. Buy a used computer, and other sensors.
Some junkyards even have you pull it, which makes the parts
even cheaper. Put the parts and required tools in your fairday
cage, in your vehicle.
Some of your older vehicles with electronic ignition will not
work. Go buy a spare module or a points ignition. Easy
change over.
2nd : Your generator. Most generators have no diods. Order
a new board. Around $100. Order a new bridge rectifier.
$10 $20. Depending on your model, if it is gravity feed or
electric fuel pump, you will need a new fuel pump. Universal
electric fuel pump, around $50. You could get a new set of
brushes ( NOT REQUIRED ) while you are at it and a new
set of points, condenser, and coil. $100. That is about it on
the generator. Some newer models might have a few different
parts, but that is a close list. Put all of the above and a few
small hand tools into another ammo can fairaday cage.
The other stuff would be the obvious. GMR radios, CB and
liner, short wave or ham,marine radio, batteries, ANY LED
FLASHLIGHTS ( THEY ALL HAVE ELECTRONIC
COMPONETS INSIDE ), and WILL BE affected by a
EMP. Old style flashlights will still work, providing you have
batteries. Your solar panels will work but you WILL NEED
SPARE CONTROLLERS. Best to always store your optics
and such ( when not in use ), in a fairday cage. That also goes
for handheld GPS. Anything else electronic, that you consider
essential, store in a fairday cage. IF YOU DO MANAGE to
have a WORKING generator, your new fridge wont work.
Call and order a new mother board for all appliances you
deem essential.
Vic says:
Comment ID: 3382139
May 7, 2015 at 9:55 pm
Really some well thought out suggestions
Universal electric fuel pump, around $50.
When you buy one of these you need to buy a fuel
pump pressure regulator.. they can be had with a dial
adjustable pressure so one pump can service various
items..
You will also need to know what the required
pressures are and not exceed them or you will quickly
damage wreak seats and jets in the carburetor..
Cat Herder says:
Comment ID: 3381909
May 7, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Freeslave,
TBH-that scenario presented would be a real bad day for a whole
bunch of people. Dont like contemplating that one.
Be well.
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John Q. Public says:
Comment ID: 3381917
May 7, 2015 at 3:25 pm
While 2002 was the latest auto year tested (and, especially
since models have become increasingly dependent upon
chips, it is prudent to err on the side of preparedness),
there is some evidence that our concerns regarding
automobiles may be overstated:
futurescience dot com/emp/vehicles.html
Acid Etch says:
Comment ID: 3381825
May 7, 2015 at 1:24 pm
WW2 was the first war where more people died from bullets than from
disease.
No invention ever extended human life spans more than water purification.
Sanitary equipment is therefore a tier-1 concern.
Latrine duty is not a shit job. Its being entrusted with the lives of the entire
group.
swinging richard says:
Comment ID: 3381840
May 7, 2015 at 1:43 pm
AE, Let me thank you for a great post.
Frank Thoughts says:
Comment ID: 3381868
May 7, 2015 at 2:31 pm
This is true: clean water and a good place to take a crap are the two
basic essentials that spell out survival in the medium to long-term.
Go to any third world country and these are the two things people
get wrong and thus they have the shts all the time and eventually
die at age 35 or sooner. Few preppers have any idea how your
quality of life and thinking capacity is severely reduced by having the
sh#ts. You will get weak, you will feel awful and not want to do
anything. It is critical you practice barrier control methods to ensure
you do not consume contaminated water and food. Do that, and
you will have a key strategic advantage on others. There is a reason
why the skinnies with AKs are so skinny in the third world: it is
because they crap out their calories.
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3381942
May 7, 2015 at 4:00 pm
FT, spot on. Having a good water filtration device is essential
in any post-SHTF scenario because WATER IS LIFE.
Sawyer has a complete line of water filtration devices that are
rated for up to one million gallons each. In March I tested out
2 new Sawyer SP140 Water Filter Bottles I bought from
Ready Made Resources. com for $39.95 each. Free shipping
on orders over $50. The filters can be cleaned and never
need replacing. Works on all running sources of water, even
tap water. I tried them out in the creek behind the BOL and
had some of the best-tasting water ever. I keep one in the
truck and the other as a spare in storage. Get a Sawyer, you
cant go wrong.
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JL says:
Comment ID: 3382170
May 7, 2015 at 10:56 pm
Braveheart, thanks for the tip about Ready Made
Resource. I actually live pretty close to there and am
excited to go to their store. I looks like they have
awesome products for a really good price.
Make sure to watch your grocery store ads, I got a
free 5 lb package of ground beef and a free box of
popcorn at Kroger for being one of the first 300
people.
Anonymous says:
Comment ID: 3382327
May 8, 2015 at 7:23 am
Ever see the movie Platoon? A cut down 44 gallon drum
makes a great bucket to shit into if theres a large group of
you. Every day around an hour before sunset, drag that drum
out, pour a beer can size worth of diesel over the shit ..
And then spark it up!!! Itll burn down. Probably one of the
most fascinating tasks Ive ever carried out on operations in
areas where the facilities are limited. When theres nothing
else to do socially for weeks on end .. Burning the shit is
the best job to have!!! Stinks a bit, but then, who cares!!
Jim says:
Comment ID: 3382765
May 8, 2015 at 8:36 pm
I plan to put a 5 gallon bucket with a toilet seat over a
hole in my septic tank that it just fits and when not in
use put a lid on the bucket.
BigB says:
Comment ID: 3381968
May 7, 2015 at 4:48 pm
Nice article Jerimiah. Thanks for sharing.
BigB
However:
youre out on the freeway heading toward work at 8:05 am, armed
with a cup of coffee and your local radio station. All of a sudden the
radio crackles and all of the power in your vehicle cuts off and you
drift (hopefully safely!) to a halt. You do a head check: all of your
fellow commuters on the road are experiencing the same problem,
except one guy in a 54 Ford pickup truck who passes right by you.
You look at your wristwatch and it is blank. Your cell phone is off,
and out. You notice a traffic light ahead of you is out, and the
convenience store and its sign on the corner are devoid of lights.
Traffic light and convenience store? I thought you were on the
freeway? Lol
Genius says:
Comment ID: 3381835
May 7, 2015 at 1:38 pm
MommaD, If you can get radio reception inside the structure it probably
isnt fully protected. A metal garbage can stops radio reception (I have
tried it) so I feel fairly confident it will protect from emp. So for anything I
wanted to test for emp I would use the radio test (am/fm radio battery
powered). Like the article says, you dont need to ground it. Just be sure
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nothing is touching the metal of the structure. Perhaps you could store
items in a metal garbage can and keep the can in the garage as a secondary
measure of protection.
sixpack says:
Comment ID: 3381860
May 7, 2015 at 2:18 pm
You just answered my question above, thanks G.
Kulafarmer says:
Comment ID: 3381866
May 7, 2015 at 2:29 pm
From what I have read the ability of a metal building to act as
a shield depends on how well the metal is bonded and
grounded. Not 100% on that, and would definitely check it
but i know that was a big issue on some repeater stations we
built back in the early 90s, actually ran a daisy chain of
copper conducter around the building physically connecting it
with bolts to a spot on the matal roofing that had a bare metal
spot, in addition all acces points were metal doors in metal
frames, all also bonded to the shell and frame, hand held
crew radios wouldnt work in the buildings, was supposedly
to reduce interference from signals.
Cat Herder says:
Comment ID: 3381899
May 7, 2015 at 3:10 pm
Kulafarmer,
We did the same thing too, on repeater sites.
Thermionic bonding and grounding-AKA R-56
installation. (I worked for Motorola back then. ) didnt
have too many sites go down after that.
Be well.
Cat
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3381896
May 7, 2015 at 3:05 pm
Genius and Sixpack, thats correct about the metal trash cans. My
faraday cage for my electronics is a metal trash can with packing
bubbles for insulation. I have a few radios I store in it. I tested each
one of them when I was first setting up the cage by leaving it turned
on then setting the lid on. When the lid is placed on it the reception
stops. Remove the lid and the reception comes back. I have it sitting
on a hardwood floor in a spare room I use for storage with nothing
touching it. Am I using the wrong thing for insulation? Not sure. Any
advice would be welcomed. Also, any and all electronics you want
to save that require batteries, be sure to stockpile those as well and
LOTS of them. I dont know if the batteries should be in the
faraday. Any advice on that would also be welcomed.
Genius says:
Comment ID: 3381918
May 7, 2015 at 3:26 pm
Brave, Bubble wrap should be ok its not conductive. Also
as far as batteries go, it couldnt hurt to have at least some of
them in your can.
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3381924
May 7, 2015 at 3:33 pm
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Genius, in that case, Ill have to get a SECOND can,

LOL. Ive stockpiled that many batteries. Thanks for
the tip.
Ever Vigilant says:
Comment ID: 3382054
May 7, 2015 at 7:38 pm
You too.
slingshot says:
Comment ID: 3382098
May 7, 2015 at 8:45 pm
BraveHeart
There is very little info on the EMP test during the 1960s but
at that time batteries were not affected. Today with much
more powerful detonation of nuclear devises there is no info
to support the survival of batteries. So I would treat them like
any other EMP sensitive device. Put some in a Faraday cage
can.
Anonymous says:
Comment ID: 3381848
May 7, 2015 at 1:57 pm
Basically, if you can pick up normal radio signals inside it probably no, if
you cant pick them up inside it probably yes.
david says:
Comment ID: 3381914
May 7, 2015 at 3:20 pm
Any Faraday cage will be more effective if well-grounded (as to a rod or
pipe in the ground). As least it was a big deal for Faraday himself.
slingshot says:
Comment ID: 3382100
May 7, 2015 at 8:47 pm
David.
As I have read if you install a ground improperly it becomes an
antennae and defeats your cage.
apache54 says:
Comment ID: 3381933
May 7, 2015 at 3:44 pm
Moma D,
the metal needs to be galvanized to be the most effect, you would also
need to make sure the roof and walls be metal to metal and then the
bottom of the walls need to be grounded at all four corners. make sure the
walls and roof have at least four main points of connection, ie. #12 wire
with metal screws will work. of course you can get more technical than this
BUT this will work.
Tex says:
Comment ID: 3381994
May 7, 2015 at 5:28 pm
Ideally, the entire structure would need to be sealed with metal on metal
and grounded, including the floor. A good test is to check if a radio picks
up any signal and when you close it up, your cell phone gets no signal. Its
a start. Think a grounded, sealed tin can.
Anonymous says:
Comment ID: 3382107
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When one in a million, literally, is prepared for such an event, why would
you wish to live in that environment ? I have read that 90% of the
population will die in the first month. Should you require medical attention,
you will be toast. Face the facts, a successful EMP attack will plunge the
country back to the stone age.
Plan twice, prep once says:
Comment ID: 3382203
May 8, 2015 at 12:12 am
Turning a garage onto a Faraday cage. Great idea!
You could wallpaper it with heavy duty aluminum foil. Any windows could
get mirrored Mylar window film. It should be grounded as should the foil
used as wallpaper.
Cars are already quite well hardened, there is a huge survivability
dependence on which way it faces and where it is in the sea of EMP pulses
that have nulls and maximums.
As a rule, if it can take a lightning hit, it can probably take an EMP hit.
Many cars will survive, many will not.
If your car was in a shielded garage, its survivability skyrockets! A few
boxes of heavy duty freezer grade foil and some wall paper paste may be a
good investment. A good idea since that is also where I store my
generator?
If I was a purposeful EMP attack, expect them to follow up in a couple
days to kill what little survives.
At the point where I realize it was likely a man made EMP I would take
everything that survived off line and shield it for survival. Id want to save
my generator and precious fuel for emergency construction and power
tools, and. Not fritter it away any longer than needed!
I might run refrigeration only long enough to get the protein canned for long
term, then shut it all down. And pack it away.
If an EMP was part of a foreign attack, expect follow up attacks to kill
back up power equipment, and the stuff that survived.
I kind of like the shielded garage concept. A working car in an EMP
attack is priceless. Keep them hidden away!
Even a small WORKING garden tractor with plowing and tilling
attachments is priceless in a disaster like this.
I had a conversation with my brother, that went like this: if you could
harden just one room against disaster, which room would you pick? My
pick would be my garage. I want my cars, tractors, my tools, and the
supplies kept in it.
Lost In The C.R.C. says:
Comment ID: 3382219
May 8, 2015 at 1:03 am
Possible? Yeseasy to do?no way. An easy way to test it for suitability
is step outside of it with a fm radio in hand. Tune to a very strong signal
you know to be transmitted from close by, walk inside, close all entrances
to your garage, and if the radio goes static or mute depending on the audio
design of the radio, you have a good Start for a faraday building
Now, that said, for the building to be made emp resistant, you must seal off
ALL OPENINGS LARGER THAN .25, remove all electrical service
conductors (Including: Catv/satellite/ ham radio/metal plumbing pipes that
protrude through the building using insulated flashing gaskets) and so on,
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that feed into the building, and never leave any opening or entrance to the
building open, should the emp happen to strike at that particular moment
thus, most effective means of emp shielding is small, easily sealed
containers.
Comment ID: 3383267
May 9, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Good comments. More reliable than Mylar on the windows is metal
screen. It needs to cover the window and over the trim, to the foil
lining pasted to the Sheetrock. The four corners of the foil need an
electrical connection to the foil, a screw will do.
There can be wall outlets, but never leave things plugged in that are
inside the shielded room, they will be a conduit for the EMP to get
in. Metal outlet covers are best.
A garage is the easiest room in the house to shield, since mine is
closed 99.9% of the time! and I already have double wall steel
garage doors and a steel door to the house.
Remember theres probably more in valuables in the average two
car garage than in the rest of the average persons house, but its
worthless if it doesnt run when you turn the keys, or pull the rope.
The tools, machinery, generator, and vehicles in my garage are
precisely what Id need most after water and food.
WhoWuddaThunkIt says:
Comment ID: 3382375
May 8, 2015 at 9:28 am
Forget the slide rule. Carry Potassium Iodide cause after a few weeks ro a
month all the Nuke Plants run out of dieael ful to run the gens that keep the
spent rods cool. Stay up wind. See your Nuke threat in your area at
http://www.RadiationNetwork.com. buy a wind guage to know where to
go away from the Nuke Fallout. WWTI
Mcdermott says:
Comment ID: 3383261
May 9, 2015 at 10:18 pm
I have heard mention of microwaves making good faraday cages. Can
anyone confirm this it would be easy to just find some broken ones and
repurpose them.
2. Satori says:
Comment ID: 3381800
May 7, 2015 at 12:47 pm
suggested reading
One Second After by Fortschen
Lights Out by Crawford
Solar Flare by Burkett
Last Light by Blackstock
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3381927
May 7, 2015 at 3:35 pm
Satori, Ive already read Lights Out and One Second After. Ill check
out Solar Flare and Last Light.
3. Acid Etch says:
Comment ID: 3381801
May 7, 2015 at 12:48 pm
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/05/06/dallas-bbq-chelsea-fight/
Mountain Trekker says:
Comment ID: 3381886
May 7, 2015 at 2:50 pm
I just read on the News where the Court ruled that NSA Bulk Data
Collection was never authorize by Congress. This is a ruling on NSA 215
Metadata Surveillance. The Patriot Act comes up for renewal on June 1st.
So Please take a minute and call, write or email your Congressman and tell
them to Stop Renewing the Patriot Act, or at the very least stop NSA from
doing Metadata Surveillance. I can hear it now Ill showem I dont vote
Well they make the rules regardless of what you do, but you better inform
them of what you like or dislike. Trekker Out. I Let Them Know Where I
Stand, Not Just On SHTF!
4. Sideshow says:
Comment ID: 3381806
May 7, 2015 at 12:53 pm
Great writeup.
If one has kids, or well family, torrent any tv sohw series movies etc etc books
onto sd cards and faraday a tablet and small solar panel and a small mp3
player. These could really help in those stressed out times of quiet resolve.
5. Omar Fink says:
Comment ID: 3381807
May 7, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Its important to know the differences between an EMP and similar disruption
caused by a solar flare. Both can take out the electric power grid, but an EMP
can create far more damage to smaller electronics, which hinders recovery greatly
by taking out most other forms of infrastructure at the same time.
The Difference Between a Solar Flare and an EMP
6. Them Hogs says:
Comment ID: 3381810
May 7, 2015 at 1:06 pm
Abide with me, past falls the evening time. The darkness deepens, Lord with me
abide. When other helpers fail and comforts flee. Help of the helpless, Lord abide
with me.
Hymn sung by Brit troops in the trenches of World War One.
WOFTHs
Them Hogs says:
Comment ID: 3381812
May 7, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Fast falls the evening time, not past
Anonymous says:
Comment ID: 3382152
May 7, 2015 at 10:21 pm
A powerful hymn to steady the nerves no doubt. The whistles blew
then over the top lads Rat-a-tat-tat.
7. WIprepped says:
Comment ID: 3381811
May 7, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Might have to set up another bulk tank for propane. $1.19 gal. & it lasts forever.
Better than $6/gal. two winters ago. I fill my own tanks and have set up the gens
on propane.
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molon labe
Sideshow says:
Comment ID: 3381821
May 7, 2015 at 1:21 pm
I lease 3x 250gal lp tabks on property Always full
TnAndy says:
Comment ID: 3381922
May 7, 2015 at 3:30 pm
I own three 500gal tanks, two always full, one is used and refilled
annually. Also keep a dozen 100lb (23gal) tanks always full.
Genius says:
Comment ID: 3381931
May 7, 2015 at 3:42 pm
TnAndy, Damn man I hope you never have a fire at your
place lol.
D says:
Comment ID: 3381951
May 7, 2015 at 4:23 pm
I dont need propane. Electricity is a convenience and
luxury that makes life easier but I can live without.
Same with gas/fuel. If Mr. Johnson ventures around
the Yaak Valley, he knows this too.
TnAndy says:
Comment ID: 3382444
May 8, 2015 at 11:59 am
I dont need propane either.
Right now, we use it for water heater and stove
top. I have a wood fired water heater ready to
plumb in place of the propane model, and a
wood cook stove in our auxiliary kitchen.
Propane is handy, which is why we use it now,
and it would be handy in a grid down world for
the time it lasts, but were by no means
dependent on it. Using it for cooking only, I
figure we could go 10 years. Throw in some
wood cooking, (especially in cold weather) and
I really dont know how long it would
last..long time, for sure.
Electrically, we could also go a long time. I
currently have an 11kw solar system in place,
6kw of which is grid tied, battery backup. Have
complete set of spare charge controllers and
inverters (Outback) in sealed 55gal metal drums
if the current ones get zapped. 6kw is enough to
run some refrigeration, and lights, and the
occasional use of washer/power tools/etcall
the things that made the 20th century a great
place to be over all those previous centuries.
freedombiomass says:
Comment ID: 3381939
May 7, 2015 at 3:56 pm
An old (unchipped) propane generator with char-gas backup
and a LITTLE propane storage is our model for coming out
the other side living well. Search Gravely simple fire to see
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video of the technology in action. We make charcoal from

brush with TLUD heating of aquaponics/greenhouse.
Think about what comes next, over the long horizon. IMHO
hoarding supplies of consumables that will still someday be
gone is not looking far enough into the future.
The fuel is abundant now, abundant after an EMP.
Kulafarmer says:
Comment ID: 3381837
May 7, 2015 at 1:39 pm
Propane is definitely something i keep picking up, both the 75# bottles and
the cmall ones for camping stoves, lights etc,,,
For canning i use a few different burners i have accumulated, my turkey
frier burner works bestfor water bath canning, the korean cast iron ones i
have are good for the All American pressure canner, the bigger bottles last
quite a while.
Anonymous says:
Comment ID: 3381876
May 7, 2015 at 2:37 pm
FWIW, those small cylinders for camp stoves and torches are
refillable from the big tanks with a $20 adapter from the China Store
(aka Harbor Freight).
The little cylinders are an expensive and bulky way to buy propane,
better to get a refill valve and a smaller number of cylinders and
spend the difference between the smaller number and a large
stockpile on more large tanks and propane.
Of course if you have lots of spare money and space convenience is
probably more important than cost but it doesnt hurt to have one of
those filler valves on hand anyway even if you dont use it (it makes
the empty little cylinders a reusable item so you dont have to just
toss it out).
Kulafarmer says:
Comment ID: 3382109
May 7, 2015 at 9:02 pm
I have a couple, ave a couple for refilling my butane lighters
too, sometimes convenience wins
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3381930
May 7, 2015 at 3:40 pm
Kula, Ive got a Coleman stove and a bunch of the small bottles for
it. But eventually propane runs out. I also have a Kelly Kettle Stove,
the Base Camp model, that uses twigs, pine needles, leaves
{natures fuel]. Can have a pot of water boiling in just 3 minutes. I
got it for only $79.95 from http://www.kellykettle.com 2 years ago,
but it;s probably higher now. Any kind of outdoor stove that uses
natures fuel will be essential in post-SHTF.
Kulafarmer says:
Comment ID: 3382110
May 7, 2015 at 9:04 pm
I made a rocket stove out of steel pipe, can cook with waste
from around our property,, its nice to have lots of trees
around.
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3382131
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Kula, same situation at the BOL. Natures fuel all over
the place and a lifetime supply of firewood for the
wood stove.
Outlaw Angel says:
Comment ID: 3384251
May 11, 2015 at 10:15 pm
Cook w free energy from the sun. Get a solar oven at
SolarOvenSoceity.com or make your own with a fresnal
lense you can watch on you tube look up how to make a
solar oven . people use refectors for the winter sun. Boils
water & all. Been cooking with one the last 10 years.
supressed technology of course cuz there is nno money to be
made. The military used them in vietnam.
8. Acid Etch says:
Comment ID: 3381813
May 7, 2015 at 1:08 pm
My motorcycle has no gas gauge, and it ran out of gas doing 70 on the freeway
one day. I skillfully maneuvered it to the curbside and moved the fuel selector to
reserve before driving the bike to a gas station.
Enemy of the State says:
Comment ID: 3381877
May 7, 2015 at 2:38 pm
should be able to do that on the fly if you were any kind of motorcycle
rider
The Old Coach says:
Comment ID: 3381908
May 7, 2015 at 3:15 pm
Hes probably never actually been on a motorcycle. Just like all the
other adventure fiction he posts.
Ordinary Joe says:
Comment ID: 3382023
May 7, 2015 at 6:49 pm
I have to switch all the time and I do it on the fly. Never
thought to coast to the side of the road. Same thing happens
when I forget to turn the gas valve on as well. (<:
Mountain Trekker says:
Comment ID: 3382209
May 8, 2015 at 12:22 am
Sorry Joe, but you probably had to do it, on the fly.
Very few are as skillfull as Assed Itch, and he is very
safety conscious. He does ride an UltraLight and they
are much more sensitive and touchy to control, so
curbside is the place to perform such an operation.
Trekker Out. Be Safe AE, We Would Sure Hate To
Lose You!
jim adair says:
Comment ID: 3382493
May 8, 2015 at 1:03 pm
As a point of reference freeways dont have curbs
9. stu johnson says:
Comment ID: 3381816
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May 7, 2015 at 1:10 pm

Ive been using a small metal garbage can for small things like batteries and a
small shortwave radio but need to reapply some things, but Im not ready to go
buy a 54 anything, its the money thing. Will the 1984 Trans am with a quadra-jet
work after an emp?
Im not driving it now but if it worked I could use it to get to my bug out location.
It has a hidden hitch and a V-8 so could pull some weight. If it wont run Im
stuck in town:(
Stu out.
Archivist says:
Comment ID: 3381849
May 7, 2015 at 1:57 pm
Electronic ignition is the big item to fail in an EMP.
I wonder if theres a way to retrofit an old distributor type ignition into a
newer vehicle. I have an old Ranger pickup that might be made EMPproof.
sixpack says:
Comment ID: 3381865
May 7, 2015 at 2:28 pm
We did just that on an 89 Chevy V-8 with an electronic ignition.
The first task is finding a distributor shaft and cog that will match up
right. We had access to an entire wrecking yard when we did ours,
and had plenty of time for trial and error.
There is a book that most wrecking yards and parts stores have,
that tells you what parts will interchange with what.changing an
electronic distributor to a points distributor isnt mentioned
anywhere in itwe looked.
My Dad could make a motor run sitting on a palate on the floor. He
was a Kentucky jury rigger from way back. Point is, it probably can
be done in your case.
D says:
Comment ID: 3381955
May 7, 2015 at 4:30 pm
MOST Newer vehicles ( 2000 up) do not have a distributor.
They have a crank and cam sensor to send a impulse to the
ecm for the coils to fire(one coil per cylinder). Most cars will
not be affected as the ecm is shielded.
sixpack says:
Comment ID: 3381995
May 7, 2015 at 5:29 pm
That tells you two thing about me: 1. Its been a long
time since Ive actually been under a hood, and 2. I
never could afford a really new car. Ive generally had
old clunkers.
Thanks for the update.
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3382134
May 7, 2015 at 9:49 pm
Sixpack, same here with me, back before I
started getting company vehicles. At least I
could keep the clunkers running. Each one was
on life support when I bought them but I knew
how to support the life.
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Anonymous says:
Comment ID: 3381903
May 7, 2015 at 3:13 pm
Easier to just keep a spare ignition module. Cheap enough and only
takes a few minutes to replace on most older vehicles. IIRC you
also need a spare hall effect pickup transistor for the Ranger,
havent worked on one of those in quite a while so I dont
remember much other than it was quite a bit different from the GM
stuff of the time.
Trying to go to an old point system could probably be done, but it
would probably require more than just a distributor change out since
there is probably also an emission computer of some kind involved
that will be looking for a signal from the ignition.
Genius says:
Comment ID: 3381921
May 7, 2015 at 3:30 pm
Archivist, Just go to the junkyard and buy a spare ignition and keep
it in an emp proof container (ammo can), If your ignition gets wiped
just install the spare, A lot easier than converting to points ignition
and cheaper too.
D says:
Comment ID: 3381960
May 7, 2015 at 4:35 pm
I would guess the condenser might be affected in a emp but
not a cme. If you still have a distributor and electronic ign,
just buy a extra Hall effect pick upif it makes you feel more
secure. I wouldnt bother though.
10. Satori says:
Comment ID: 3381822
May 7, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Another History Lesson
The Power Brothers, WWI Draft Resisters
htt ps://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/05/no_author/anti-military-heroes/
and may I add
I hope Woodrow Wilson is burning in hell for his crimes against the country
11. Them Hogs says:
Comment ID: 3381823
May 7, 2015 at 1:22 pm
For those who might place an EMP attack into the unlikely file, there is a very
good article today on The National Interest site written by one of our
Professors from our Militarys War College.
In the article he outlines how a conflict in Europe might lead to a possible nuclear
war between NATO and Russia/China.
The frightening thing is that his conclusions are based upon the known military
doctrines of both NATO and Russia.
Good article JJ, watch out fur them hogs son!
12. Sgt. Dale says:
Comment ID: 3381843
May 7, 2015 at 1:48 pm
I have a question?
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I have a very deep basement and I have all of my electrical equipment, (Solar
panels, Night vision, Walkies, Deep cycle batteries Ect.) All of these are still in
there boxes and covered with a mylar blanket. some are also in large plastic tubs.
I live in a large two story farm house with lighting rod all over it and they are still
in good shape stuck in the ground. The question is are they safe from an EMP?
Setting pretty good on the 10 things that he has set forth for us to learn about.
Sgt.
Archivist says:
Comment ID: 3381852
May 7, 2015 at 2:08 pm
The lightning rods wont have any effect on EMP. Electronics need to be
completely surrounded by metal.
What I have done for all my small stuff, such as hard drives and radios, is
to wrap each item in plastic. Then I wrap it in aluminum foil very tightly.
Then another layer of plastic and another layer of foil. Then I tape on a
label and identify the item, because I cant always tell whats inside, and in
the case of hard drives, it makes a difference which one I unwrap later.
Larger items get wrapped in plastic or other insulator and stored in metal
trash cans. I use some aluminum foil scrunched up as a gasket and mash
the lid down tight. Then I set something heavy on top to keep it sealed
tight.
sixpack says:
Comment ID: 3381872
May 7, 2015 at 2:32 pm
Thats exactly what I had in mind, Archivist.
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3381910
May 7, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Archivist, when you say wrap in plastic, do you mean like some
plastic food bags? I already do that with each and every electronic
item in their own separate bags and the shipping bubbles I use for
insulation are plastic. If I also need aluminum foil for insulation, Ill
do that also. Thanks.
Archivist says:
Comment ID: 3382050
May 7, 2015 at 7:36 pm
The aluminum foil is a Faraday cage in miniature. I use two
layers of foil and plastic just to be safe, in case I didnt do a
perfect job on the foil on one layer.
I used some nicer plastic shopping bags. The flimsy grocery
store bags might be okay, but I would probably use Ziploc
freezer bags instead because theyre thicker and wont tear
or abrade through accidentally.
apache54 says:
Comment ID: 3382079
May 7, 2015 at 8:12 pm
the plastic needs to be the NON static type it is made
specially for electronics you can buy it in many types
and even in bulk rolls, then you can also use galvanized
trash cans after you pack up the individual parts will
work well.
Braveheart says:
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May 7, 2015 at 9:53 pm
Archivist, I keep smaller items in ziploc sandwich bags
and bigger items in ziploc freezer bags. Ill add some
foil for good measure. Thanks.
Paranoid says:
Comment ID: 3381859
May 7, 2015 at 2:17 pm
Sgt; Have not been in a Radio Shack type store in years, but they used to
sell metalized bags to ship Stuff in that you didnt want X-rayed. IMHO
they would work just fine for EMP and they were cheap.
Omar Fink says:
Comment ID: 3381869
May 7, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Think of the EMP as a radio signal. A simple test is will a radio still
receive in the environment to be tested? AM/FM radios offer one level of
test but high frequency signals may still get through. Higher frequency
signals find smaller gaps to get through shielding. A cell phone usually
operates at higher frequencies and offers a better test but still not one that
assures complete protection because an EMP covers ALL frequencies.
Some special mylar bags offer RF protection, but general purpose mylar
does not. Lightning rods offer no protection against radio signals. If a cell
phone can receive while down in the basement under mylar, there is no
EMP protection.
Sgt. Dale says:
Comment ID: 3381947
May 7, 2015 at 4:13 pm
To all of the above.
Thanks for your come back.
I will take your advise. Again Thanks
Sgt.
Sharon says:
Comment ID: 3382421
May 8, 2015 at 11:06 am
I Feel Sick! your so prepared, I have tried but so far away
from ready, KnowledgeKnow How & Money to buy all
these things my daughter is ill, its of much concern, Have
Your Bibles Ready at Hand if nothing else Candle & Pray In
Jesus Name. If we all could be so prepared Bless you all, be
safe Jesus will be coming all need to be repented & ready I
say that with true Heart
D says:
Comment ID: 3381966
May 7, 2015 at 4:45 pm
Id throw all that shit away, sell it or use it now, then if it fails during a emp,
go back to the hand tools of the 1800s, such as a good grain mill, cream
separator, cultivator, packer pumps, gravity water tank, pelton or water
wheel. you will have to some day when your high tech shit breaks, gets
ripped off, or confiscated.
Northern Reb says:
Comment ID: 3381998
May 7, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Sgt.
I have all of my small stuff wrapped in bubble wrap, placed in a large
popcorn tins, lined aluminum foil then with 1/4 inch corrugated cardboard,
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a hand warmer (to take out the air). Them lid put on top , duct taped
around the lip and the seam. Then mark what is in there. Im old and cant
remember anything!;-{, what were we talking about????
S.T.S.F.P. N.Reb
RU Ready says:
Comment ID: 3382025
May 7, 2015 at 6:52 pm
I do something similar with Xmas cookie tins. One or two items per
tin, double wrapped in aluminum foil. I use cut up flour sack towels
for insulation between metal layers. (good bandages, toilet wipes,
etc if needed). The nice thing is that you can layer a couple of tins
and they fit inside a 5 gallon bucket which can be easily hauled or
stacked then if needed it can be used for hauling water or as a
latrine.
13. Archivist says:
Comment ID: 3381847
May 7, 2015 at 1:55 pm
I have gotten more spare hard drives to store backups of my huge library of
reference books and classics of literature. Many are in plain text format. You can
get almost 50,000 of them from Project Gutenberg at:
ht tps://www.gutenberg.org/
Project Gutenberg also has books in various ebook formats. I would recommend
plain text for all of their books except ones that might have illustrations.
Another way to obtain Project Gutenberg books is to get an ftp program, such as
WS_FTP from Ipswitch, and download ebooks directly from a Gutenberg ftp
site such as:
sunsite.unc.edu
To get a huge amount of really useful books, you need to get a Usenet newsgroup
software, such as NewsRover, and download from the various newsgroups. The
group that has the tech books is:
alt.binaries.e-book.technical
They have hundreds of thousands of books on every technical top imaginable,
pretty much all nonfiction categories.
Another newsgroup that has old magazines, some of which are very useful, is:
alt.binaries.pictures.vintage.magazines
A lot of the magazines are pulp fiction, such as westerns and scifi, but there are
some with practical info.
If you need specific books about old technology, such as farming, steam engines,
electronics, etc., then go to:
ht tps://archive.org/
You can search by various keywords. Most of the books are actual scans in PDF
format. Besides technical books, they also have old books on religion, history,
etc. They have enough to keep you entertained and informed for years.
One thing I would avoid is keeping ebooks in formats other than PDF or text.
Most computers can read those formats, but might not be able to read the other
formats. Calibre is a free software that I use that can read most ebook formats
and also convert them between formats. I am converting all the books I
downloaded from the newsgroups into PDF. Also, when you download books
from the tech newsgroup, many times a particular book is available in more than
one format. I always choose the PDF format if available.
If you find a website that has a lot of good information on a lot of separate pages,
you can download a backup copy of the site, either part or whole, using a free
software called HTTrack Website Copier. I use that, and it works well.
Back to preparing for possible storm Ana thats brewing off the coast. We are
expected to get a lot of wind and rain. I think the ice and snow storms this past
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winter pruned our trees pretty well, so I dont expect any real damage from the
storm, but the power is almost guaranteed to go out at some point.
Actually, I think everythings done except moving a few light items inside, such as
bird feeders.
Kulafarmer says:
Comment ID: 3381871
May 7, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Archivist, need to look into that site, is it free to download?
Kulafarmer says:
Comment ID: 3381874
May 7, 2015 at 2:34 pm
Sorry, disregard last question, thank you for the link, excellent!
Illini Warrior says:
Comment ID: 3381982
May 7, 2015 at 5:10 pm
everyone needs to download The Survival Library . specifically being
compiled for when the EMP jumps the USA back in time .
http://www.survivorlibrary.com/?page_id=1645
14. Jeff says:
Comment ID: 3381861
May 7, 2015 at 2:20 pm
I would highly suggest people start by understanding the different type of EMP
events, of which there are three. I would recommend this website as a great
resource:
Future of Science
http://www.futurescience.com/emp/E1-E2-E3.html
15. anonomoose says:
Comment ID: 3381870
May 7, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Just a heads up. All the references to this article are broken.
16. TEST says:
Comment ID: 3381906
May 7, 2015 at 3:14 pm
Doomer porn? Not quite. See the Washington Post article at
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weathergang/wp/2015/05/05/scientists-spot-evidence-for-superflares-blowing-awayanything-weve-ever-seen/
No, I dont like the leftist/fascist lamestream media either, but this one is an eyeopener. True, nothing could happen for a thousand years. Then again, I have
been commuting to work in Indiana for 4 months now, and the only two times I
took an alternative route there was a fatal accident. Also probably a once in a
thousand year event.
Archivist says:
Comment ID: 3382055
May 7, 2015 at 7:40 pm
Whats interesting is that there was an X2.7 flare not too long after the
article came out, about 6:30PM. There had been a number of smaller ones
before that.
17. AC says:
Comment ID: 3381912
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Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic
Pulse (EMP) Attack
Reports: http://www.empcommission.org/reports.php
18. slingshot says:
Comment ID: 3381938
May 7, 2015 at 3:54 pm
If you seal your trash can lid with metal tape it will help guard against EMP
provide you insulated your gear inside the can. Same goes for Ammo Cans.
Video on Utube.
19. Hout/Cypress/Katy/shtf says:
Comment ID: 3381940
May 7, 2015 at 3:56 pm
Jesazz, Koverist. I cant even turn my back for not even one Hr, i just had to
come on this new article. Here is a youtube video of what to expect during shtf
season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q07XE-BznOE
The Road. This is what happens when your are not prepared. belive me, we need
to prep.
markinaz says:
Comment ID: 3382199
May 8, 2015 at 12:09 am
Yes, The Road.
You must have the Fire!
20. slingshot says:
Comment ID: 3381956
May 7, 2015 at 4:30 pm
Somehow I have the feeling that we are stumbling around bumping into each
other on a open field.
21. 1 John 2:2 says:
Comment ID: 3381974
May 7, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Some were out there:
http://glasstone.blogspot.com/2006/03/emp-radiation-from-nuclear-space.html
22. talon1776 says:
Comment ID: 3382003
May 7, 2015 at 5:52 pm
WellI have no resources to do all those fancy things to ward off the effects of
an EMPexcept my ammo is in cans and my bolt action will work just fine.
Live Free or Diebeware of the shadows in the dark
Talon1776
Archivist says:
Comment ID: 3382064
May 7, 2015 at 7:44 pm
Plastic bags can be gotten for free, and used but clean foil is free too. You
can get old popcorn tins for very little, especially if theyre dented or
scratched, which doesnt affect how they protect against EMP.
Kulafarmer says:
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Comment ID: 3382136

May 7, 2015 at 9:52 pm
Im with you there, dont have much in the way of electronic doodads and
same as you anything that will really matter is manuwel
Braveheart says:
Comment ID: 3382140
May 7, 2015 at 9:59 pm
Talon1776, none of my weapons have any chips, circuits, etc. They work
in pre-EMP times and will still work post-EMP.
23. oldgreyguy says:
Comment ID: 3382006
May 7, 2015 at 5:59 pm
Links to QST articles dont work. What comes back is:
The requested URL /tis/info/pdf/88615.pdf was not found on this server.
Have a better link?
Mac Slavo says:
Comment ID: 3382024
May 7, 2015 at 6:50 pm
Thanks for the heads up here Apologies for the trouble. Ive removed
the reference link for the time being until we figure out what went wrong.
-mac
AC says:
Comment ID: 3382081
May 7, 2015 at 8:16 pm
For the ARRL links, try these:
part 1
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/tis/info/pdf/88615.pdf
part 2
part 3
part 4
I just saved these, but they may be using a Content Mangling
System that kills links after a certain number of downloads I dont
know.
24. Hout/cypress/Katy/shtf says:
Comment ID: 3382026
May 7, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Something is defiantly up. It just seems that lately they are really pushing the EMP
articles in the crap media, looks like they plan to do it..this is getting really
spooky. This is why I had to begin prepping. Anyone who gets caught off guard
when this hits is in deep commercial pig crap, not looking good..and now they
have rolled in the military to take advantage of the staged false flag. This stinks to
high azz heaven.
nlightened2 says:
Comment ID: 3382181
May 7, 2015 at 11:34 pm
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Yeah. I noticed a lot of news coverage on the topic too.

25. logicrazy says:
Comment ID: 3382033
May 7, 2015 at 7:05 pm
Activated charcoal in with the ground rod helps make a good ground. Also a 8
ground rod does not have to be 8 deep. It can be buried sideways if you have
shallow bedrock.
26. RU Ready says:
Comment ID: 3382034
May 7, 2015 at 7:05 pm
One of the biggest things to know if an EMP hits is where did it hit? If you are
looking at a regional or local EMP then you just need to survive for a week or
two and help will arrive. It might take months to restore power, but you have the
ability to head to an area outside the EMP zone where things are normal and
hopefully civilized.
If the EMP is national, then you wont be getting any help, and you wont have
many transportation options, nor will you have any nearby places that can handle
refugees.
Agree with others water and sanitary are huge issues you better prep for. But
dont forget a small multi-band radio receiver with batteries to learn where that
EMP hit.
27. Ishimo says:
Comment ID: 3382038
May 7, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Id like to add that you shouldnt be in a hurry to raid your Faraday cage after an
EMP. There is a very high possibility that there will be another not long after the
first. My reasoning is that if we come under EMP attack the intent will be to
decimate our population. After all, a single attack then a few months later the
aggressor lands an occupation force. They will want to be sure that survivors are
as helpless as possible. There is a good chance that the first few months following
and EMP will not actually be the most dangerous.
Another thing is to be sure and nest cages. If your cage has a reduction of 50 and
you get hammered with a super EMP then your stored items may not survive. The
current theoretical limit of an EMP is 50k V/m with stress on theoretical. Since
no one has ever tested this theory no one really knows for sure what the limit for
an EMP actually is if any.
28. markvic says:
Comment ID: 3382056
May 7, 2015 at 7:40 pm
As a nerc rc system operator. I promise that everything to get the system back
will be done. But if the transformers are smoked and breakers. Than it is almost
impossible to place it all back together (grid). Maybe your local utilities could run
as a island. Which means they will be limited to who they can serve. And with the
general stockpiles of coal is usually less than two weeks. Well you can put the
rest together. Good luck. P.s. energy prices are going to start climbing fast. Stop
the epa.
29. Hurricane Willie says:
Comment ID: 3382069
May 7, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Great article and comments too, thanks!
30. j says:
Comment ID: 3382096
May 7, 2015 at 8:42 pm
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how about a 55 gallon drum with a metal top and band seal?
31. slingshot says:
Comment ID: 3382103
May 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm
Prepare yourself for the silence and darkness. Heat and cold will be a factor for
many.
Talk about withdrawal. Electronic addition might be worse than drugs.
markinaz says:
Comment ID: 3382204
May 8, 2015 at 12:15 am
I dont call it Electric Crack for nothing.
32. ChuckInBama says:
Comment ID: 3382122
May 7, 2015 at 9:24 pm
JJ
Really enjoy your contributions and find them spot-on with my way of thinking
and planning. I dont post too many comments here, but I lurk daily; have
gotten several good tips from folks on here. My old Cold War era training is
coming back and seems to be still relevant! Hope to make through with all of you.
33. Tony Lamb says:
Comment ID: 3382151
May 7, 2015 at 10:19 pm
A lot of survival articles completely over look solar power (and yes if you have a
up and running system now you will lose it when the EMP event happens). But if
you have a back up Charge Controller, just wire the new controller into your
system and you should be good to go. You will need to keep some spare LED
lights and other 12 volt devices in a Faraday Cage and even then I would wrap
them in alternating layers of plastic and tin foil and then store in a Faraday Cage
to be sure.
A little planning and foresight and you can have lots of power after an EMP
event. For more info check out:
http://www.iplantosurvive.info
34. nlightened2 says:
Comment ID: 3382171
May 7, 2015 at 11:02 pm
Ive been hearing a lot about EMP in the news but little on how to prep for it
except for have some extra food and water and candles etc. So I am very grateful
for this article Jeremiah.
I would just like to offer a cooking tip for those who like to BBq with charcoal.
When my neighbor said I could have the wood of a large walnut tree if I would
cut it down for him i agreed. Instead of cutting into 18 lengths for fire wood I cut
it into 3 inch slabs. Split into 3 chunks or smaller. When seasoned they light quite
well in my charcoal starter and are excellent for smoking and cooking meat of all
kinds. Odd how my mouth is watering now thinking about that smoked possum I
had last year. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Poooooooooooooooooooosum!
Comment ID: 3382176
May 7, 2015 at 11:18 pm
A cargo trailer with aluminum siding may work pretty well as a faraday cage for
larger items like quads, arvs, motorcycles, chain saws etc. Also a 55gallon sreel
drum would work quite well if lined with cardboard or other insulating material. I
keep a small tv, radio, and some batteries in there. Good luck with all your preps
guys.
36. southside says:
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May 7, 2015 at 11:37 pm
Laptop? What for? If the grid goes down how the heck you gonna down load
anything. Same with radios,if it is an EMP event,who the hell you gonna call?
OFF TOPIC
Does anyone how to acquire self-generating power source? The one where part
is a bicycle hooked up to create power. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Jim says:
Comment ID: 3382772
May 8, 2015 at 8:55 pm
Same with the watch, dont need it maybe a calendar though.
Comment ID: 3383272
May 9, 2015 at 11:10 pm
Why save a commuter if the Internet is dead?
One of the things I picked up years ago is an inexpensive computer to
OBD-II interface for a cars computer that lets me fix the suckers. Best
investment ever after the gas cap gets left loose, the check engine light
comes on, and the car spends the day at the dealer spending your money.
The laptop I connect the OBD-II with is so old its window 2000, and I
dont dare connect it to the Internet anymore (see note below for
exception). It is now reserved for car repairs, but it could read/play any
info on disks or thumb drives. I have seen people recommend
downloading and storing survival info to CDs. Not of much use if you
cant read those disks post SHTF!
I spent the morning troubleshooting my nieces Toyota with it today. A
couple vacuum lines needed replacing, I could see the trouble code and
sensor outputs on my laptop. Toyota would have handed me a bill for a
few hundred, and asked me to grovel and thank them. It cost me about
four dollars in new hose to fix it.
I also downloaded to CD a copy of Linex that I can put into this same
computer and safely go onto the Internet with. What is really cool is Linex
only talks to the CD and ram so it cant be permanently infected by a virus,
and when shut down the computer retains no information from the session.
Restart it and it always starts fresh.
So yes, I am thinking this is precisely the type of computer well worth
protecting in a Faraday cage, like a large ammo box from an Army Navy
store. I rarely use it anymore, but when I do its golden.
Comment ID: 3382196
May 8, 2015 at 12:01 am
Wood ash from a woodstove or fire pit does wonders for keeoing down the flys
and smell from a latrine or even a bucket buddy.
markinaz says:
Comment ID: 3382208
May 8, 2015 at 12:22 am
Way Cool, good tip.
I will keep that in mind.
I think people should get practicing with there preps now.
38. southside says:
Comment ID: 3382200
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Does anyone know how to make a self-generated power? The kind you hook up
a bicycle with
markinaz says:
Comment ID: 3382205
May 8, 2015 at 12:18 am
Look around on YouTube.
West Tex says:
Comment ID: 3382245
May 8, 2015 at 3:12 am
You could probably just grab an alternator and a bicycle to charge a
battery. Or if you didnt want the exercise, weld some magnets to the back
tire and set a speaker magnet somewhere to make it move.
39. A Man Named Anon says:
Comment ID: 3382230
May 8, 2015 at 2:01 am
The alternator in your car would be the most likely means of recharging up a
connected battery bank. That alternator could in some places with adequate wind
be turned by a turbine. On windless days, a solar trickle charger could top off the
battery bank.
Look up a wood-gas generator. Its a way they used during WW1 and WW2 to
run combustion engines by the controlled off gassing of heated wood. Wood
fumes in this manner (a method of creating charcoal) then are flammable. As such,
one could power up a generator to create electricity too. Long past the time that
derelict generators can be found (for the owners no longer can acquire the
gasoline to run them) if youre a smart prepper who knows how to use woodgas, then you can still power up that generator in this manner.
The problems are its still loud to run a generator. It means sourcing and
seasoning wood to run it.
As far as I know, the main reason people want electricity is to run lights. Why?
Because if you really study up on it, it is difficult to harvest sufficient fats to make
candles UNLESS you have a livestock operation and can seasonally harvest from
them. Then you render that fat fo candles and soap.
However in a post-collapse scenario, then you need the fat for caloric intake plus
you need to stay clean to keep skin infections down (a major problem in times
past). The smallest skin infection, or lack of cleanliness, leads to eventual
contagion in a household or community. As such, I think if you sit down and pray
about it, then youll see how it will be a huge trade off to make candles.
The easiest way to create artificial light is to utilize rechargable outside solar
lighting by charging them on your roof in a collapse, bringing them inside at
evening, and using them instead. By doing so, you wont be concerned about
home fires from candlelight, and this is a very valid concern especially with
children and untrained spouses using them. The problem is that eventually you will
not be able to recharge them and/or damage will lead to no way to creating solar
lighting easily.
Dynamos are a proven way to create short term lighting and/or run something like
a radio. Again, it only works as long you understand how they operate, can repair
them, but ultimately these will also fail.
Sharon says:
Comment ID: 3382586
May 8, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Look into something called a Savonius Turbine. These things are super
easy to make and a natural for running something like an automobile
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alternator to charge a battery bank.

Depending on how large and simple or sophisticated (not a whole lot of
difference between the two) they can be a bit noisy with a sort of humdrum
sound when spinning rapidly that irritates some people.
Kids science fair project was to make one from a coffee can cut in half and
a little DC motor for a generator that could run an LED array.
40. West Tex says:
Comment ID: 3382247
May 8, 2015 at 3:15 am
What about a microwave ?
41. RajaSuda says:
Comment ID: 3382264
May 8, 2015 at 3:52 am
You truly do not want to be in any neighborhood, county, state, or country when
this happens. If you are not prepared you will probably:
1.panic and die from shock or suicide
2.lose your mind completely
3.be killed
4.suffer from a massive heart attack
5.die from thirst or hunger
Even if you prepare yourself by following this article, you could simply be
delaying the inevitable- #1 thru #5 listed above.
Then again-repent, pray and turn your attention to the Kingdom of Heaven. You
just may get raptured!!!
When you realize you have not been raptured, and you did not prepare or suffer
#1 thru #5, rejoice and know that God had a greater plan for your life!!!
slingshot says:
Comment ID: 3382525
May 8, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RajaSuda.
How can you be so calm when everyone else is going crazy?
Lock and Load, hehehehe!
42. Jimbo says:
Comment ID: 3382281
May 8, 2015 at 5:17 am
I have an 85% hearing loss in both ears. This is the first article that mention
protecting hearing aids. They are small. They are expensive. I have a set
protected as I would be in a world of hurt without them. Also I have a backup
blood sugar testing equipment for my wife protected. Does any one know if the
Atomic Clock in Colorado is protected from an EMP event?
43. De Opresso Liber says:
Comment ID: 3382297
May 8, 2015 at 6:01 am
In the event of an EMP the U.S. may be able to shut down Nuclear Power plants
. You can bet not all will safely be brought into control. That is secondary
concern to onsite storage of years and years of spent fuel rods. Faraday cages
wont help with 100 Fukoshimas. I dont disagree in survival mode to do
everything possible to extend. My scenario of an EMP is not all like I read here
or in the book One Second After
Would an EMP/Electromagnetic Pulse Cause Nuclear Plant
http://www.decodedscience.com after-an-em
Mobile-friendly Jan 25, 2012 An EMPs effect on the successful shutdown of
a nuclear power plant must have consequences,
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midwestmama says:
Comment ID: 3382459
May 8, 2015 at 12:18 pm
is there any way to shield oneself from wind blow radiation? To secure the
home(sealing doors windows etc)? I live NW of one and due east of
another.probably about 50-60 miles from them.
A Man Named Anon says:
Comment ID: 3382833
May 8, 2015 at 11:25 pm
I agree. All of the nuclear plants generating electricity and the on-site
storage of spent fuel rodsthese are major concerns in America. Lots of
lots of uncontrolled plants and a lack of control of spent fuel rods should
be a major factor in determining your bug out or bug in location. There are
maps detailing these locations and will tell you which would be safer in the
case of an EMP affecting them.
But its not just an EMP. Post-collapse, all of them would do a controlled
shutdown if given the amount of time to do so, but it takes fuel to run
generators to control the spent fuel pool, doesnt it? So this factor could
happen with severe economic collapse, pandemic, or many other ways
too.
All locales have negatives to them for relocation, but to me, these places
would be dead zones. At best, severe mutagenic effects would affect flora
and fauna such as to forever alter the regions, in the very same manner as
Chernobyl and now Fukushima. Nature adapts to this, even can flourish as
has happened at Chernobyl, but human beings just dont adapt in a
positive way with radiation. A huge uptake in Cancer has happened (see
Belorus and Ukraine orphanages and thyroid cancer and sterility). All
species that die or survive are inundated with radioactive isotopes, and as
they decay or are consumed in the food chain, then concentrated even
more in a lethal manner.
44. MommaD says:
Comment ID: 3382305
May 8, 2015 at 6:18 am
Tons of great advice! Thank you everyone!!!!!
45. william says:
Comment ID: 3382314
May 8, 2015 at 6:54 am
Remember the common microwave. It is made to keep energy in and will also
keep it out. Put a cell phone in one and try to call itno signal.
Omar Fink says:
Comment ID: 3382318
May 8, 2015 at 6:59 am
I have put my cell phone in a microwave and it rang normally. Microwaves
do not make good faraday cages for EMP. While they have built in
shielding to prevent RF leakage, it must be designed for specific
wavelengths only. This is easy to test by placing a radio and/or cell phone
inside the microwave (DO NOT TURN ON THE MICROWAVE
WHILE DOING THIS). The higher frequencies seem to penetrate easily.
Simple tests doing this with a shortwave radio shows the microwave does
shield somewhat in the 100 mhz range but does not above that range and
cell phones that can operate in the Ghz range do not experience any
shielding effect at all.
Sharon says:
Comment ID: 3382331
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Simple enough to test on the spot: I just tried it with mine and my
cell phone would not ring.
Maybe some microwaves are better than others? FWIW, this one is
a Tappan brand Ive had for about 25 years, a very good and fairly
expensive one when I bought it that still works perfectly so it is a
high quality unit (paid about double then for what a replacement
would cost today).
midwestmama says:
Comment ID: 3382454
May 8, 2015 at 12:13 pm
That is a great idea. I think its the same with old vehicles
your old microwave is likely made differently than the newer
models. I have an old microwave that I might reinforce and
see if it might be a plausible option.
46. midwestmama says:
Comment ID: 3382359
May 8, 2015 at 8:47 am
For our family of five, we have two teens and a kindergartener,we went thru the
what ifs of an empty scenario. What do my older ones do? I told them to come
home no matter what. They have a list by our fridge of what they need to
do(secure the home,fill water jugs and tub, ready generator etc) thankfully I work
at home so while Im retrieving my youngest one on foot( after shutting off gas
etc) everyone knows their plan of action.thats been valuable to us is knowing the
plan.and the contingencies. When all hell is breaking loose( planes crashing,
traffic snarls,transformers exploding,fires and panic..)having a plan and a cool
head will be a big edge. A question for shtf folks, and othersduring an emp,
does the gas lines that run to your home run the risk of exploding because there is
no regulating? Second, would disconnecting our car battery serve any use to help
charge anything?
47. Blankone says:
Comment ID: 3382382
May 8, 2015 at 9:43 am
Can anyone tell me what an EMP would do, if anything, to a solar panel?
Genius says:
Comment ID: 3382416
May 8, 2015 at 10:55 am
The only electronic component in solar panels is a diode which may or may
not be affected. You could have some spare diodes in an emp proof
container for good measure but you should have a spare charge controller
for sure. Most charge controllers have diodes in them also so its
redundent. Charge controllers and diodes are cheap on ebay.
MaryB says:
Comment ID: 3382680
May 8, 2015 at 5:16 pm
It is unknown if an EMP will affect the semiconductor junction in the
solar cells themselves. Mine have survived a lightning hit because I
use polyphaser/transtector protection on the panels themselves and
all cables leading to charge controllers etc. I lost the transtector DC
protectors, they went dead short, and one solar panel frame was
scorched looking after the hit.
Hit was on a tree behind the panels and a step leader went to the
better ground of my solar system from what I could see. Tree was
scorched until it got to the height of the solar panels then it jumped.
Tree is no longer, I cut it down to keep it from hitting the panels if
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48. Armon says:
Comment ID: 3382399
May 8, 2015 at 10:19 am
Im thinking all our awesome super bright LED flashlights will be effected if not
protected.
Dan C. Watkins says:
Comment ID: 3382815
May 8, 2015 at 10:27 pm
All led bulbs will be fried if not protected in a Faraday cage. Have the
flashlight inside or at least spare bulbs to use for replacements after the
EMP hits
49. ManFriday says:
Comment ID: 3382524
May 8, 2015 at 1:35 pm
I know people who buy the old tube type radios and been told they are immune
to EMP. Change priorities for that aluminum toolbox in back of your truck. More
efficient to use aluminum tape around the top edge of garbage cans for a tight fit.
Boxes and paper are good insulators. Garage without a metal floor is not a metal
box or Faraday cagetoo much leakage. Heavy aluminum foil around a box is
good enoughuse aluminum tape. The night is dark and full of terrorsgood to
see in the dark.
50. ManFriday says:
Comment ID: 3382526
May 8, 2015 at 1:37 pm
EMP would fry the diode on back of a solar panel, buy extras.
51. ronald says:
Comment ID: 3382568
May 8, 2015 at 2:32 pm
Folks want to be able to drive after an EMP? Get a vehicle with one ECU
computer. Yes it will have to older but not 54 vintage. Now get on ebay or a
junkyard and buy a spare and put it in a 50 cal ammo can wrapped in towels.
include the tools it takes to use it. you may need to have it flashed for your
vehicle. Test it. Put it in your car and make sure it works. Then put the other in
your ammo can faraday box. I wrap mine in a towel, then tinfoil, then in the ammo
can. 1/2 hour of tinkering and you will be back on the road. You might want to
put a baofeng UV5R radio in there too with batteries, and a nice wristwatch. See
my website if you want to contact me with more great tips. Ron
52. Scottus1980 says:
Comment ID: 3382604
May 8, 2015 at 3:26 pm
Question: Will an old microwave oven work as a Faraday cage? And how would
someone know when its safe to take electronics out for use? Once the EMP hits,
is it over and therefore safe to take electronics out, or should you wait a certain
amount of time before opening? It would be a bitch if you had all your electronics
stored safely and you took them out too soon and they were ruined
53. MiVidaLoca says:
Comment ID: 3382704
May 8, 2015 at 6:07 pm
I just bought a Percheron I think he will do well during an EMP blast no
electronic parts to ruin. lol!
Now I just have to break him to drive.
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Comment ID: 3382755
May 8, 2015 at 8:18 pm
Heres a couple of thoughts from various replies from above.
I frequently see well meaning comments from fellow Christians regarding postcollapse and the Rapture. They feel that ultimately God will take us out when
things get that bad, and thus its their bottom line on peril. Frankly, I have major
doubts about what the majority of todays preachers are teaching about the
Rapture. That concept is a fairly new one from a theological standpoint. There are
two alternative theories on the End Times, both of which detail the suffering of
Christians such that we will still be here and only taken either halfway or will
suffer nearly the entire seven years of the Tribulation.
Folks, if youre a Christian, pray about this and read all three of the major
theories on the Rapture and Tribulation, and not rely solely upon your Biblical
understanding. For if you do so, and not prepare adequately, or assume a higher
value on your saintliness, then you may find yourself still HERE during the End
Times.
I know a ton of Christians who are not preparing whatsoever because of this
mistaken idea that theyll be raptured before they have to suffer, or assume
theyre so good that they need not be concerned. Thats a major gamble.
.
The main reason people think about generating electricity is lighting. Electronic
devices use up power in watts, and to create enough steady electricity (for too
much variation will cause damage to the devices). How did the Native Americans
create lighting? They sure didnt use candles.
Look up the way of amassing fat in a container and impregnating an absorbent
material to wick it and make a serviceable candle-like object. Its superior in the
aspect that while smelly, it works with far less care than a candle. Pioneers and
our ancestors also utilized rushlights by igniting them and switching them out as
they burned. However this would be a real fire hazard. Torches and burning pitch
produce too much smoke to utilized inside. Oil lanterns will be difficult to make
unless you are growing either canola seed plants or sesame. You could also
extract oil from soybeans too.
If you use candles, then look up a candle-follower. Its a way to control the burn
of candles in an even way such as to still produce as much light, but greatly slow
the rate of burn. When I watch post-apocalypse films, I always see tons of
candles burning, and I laugh because your candles will be so difficult to make
versus eating those fat calories or making soap, that its rather ridiculous to
imagine someone burning ten candles at a time to create romantic ambiance
during the apocalypse.
What you wont be able to do in all likelihood is run any electronic devices that
use up too many watts of power, for it will become a losing battle of making too
much noise to run a generator (and attracting desperate folks to your locale). It
also would mean a steady amount of timber felled and seasoned to create woodgas to run it (and knowing that prepper skill). Clearing forest also means revealing
your location plus generating much more woodsmoke than normal.
Look up an Earthship which is an alternative way to live underground, maintain a
constant temperature to reduce the need for heating, plus have easier access to a
root cellar.
55. Just Joe. says:
Comment ID: 3382843
May 8, 2015 at 11:58 pm
Does anyone know if a Conex Metal shipping container work as a Faraday
cage? thanks.
Just Joe. says:
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Comment ID: 3412387

July 7, 2015 at 9:23 am
Still wondering about the Conex shipping container as a Faraday proof
container? Anyone?
Ishimo says:
Comment ID: 3412445
July 7, 2015 at 12:49 pm
Missed your question first time through.
A conex would work but you would need to electrically seal around
the doors, seal any holes with metal and put in a bonded metal floor.
You are trying to seal the container so nothing leaks inside. Any
opening will allow waves of that size and smaller in. Everything
inside would have to be isolated from the container itself.
If you are going to inhabit the container you would want to ground it
for lightning protection. I would suggest a star configuration using
about 1/0 cable or even larger. It doesnt necessarily need to be
grounded to act as a faraday cage but you could get one heck of a
jolt if its hit by lightning.
Just Joe. says:
Comment ID: 3412520
July 7, 2015 at 3:42 pm
Hi, Ive been thinking about attaching angle iron to the doors
so that when closed they will make a metal to metal contact.
As for the floor, it is wood over the steel.What do you think?
TY, Joe.
Ishimo says:
Comment ID: 3412575
July 7, 2015 at 5:20 pm
Angle iron is a good idea. Hadnt thought of that. I
didnt know there was a steel floor under the wood.
That makes it easier.
I think it would work as long as you can seal all
openings. Ill be building a container home later this
year. Im planning on using at least one for a faraday
cage.
56. Elvis says:
Comment ID: 3383140
May 9, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Even if you dont garden, buy a good selection of garden seeds every year.
Package them in a ziplock bag, label them with the purchase date and place them
in the fridge for storage. Mine are still viable after 3 years in the fridge. Nothing
beats having an established garden, but at least have the seeds stored for use,
barter, etc
Hecate says:
Comment ID: 3383634
May 10, 2015 at 10:49 pm
Anyone not gardening now is making a huge mistake, IMO. Especially if
any of them are like me and use the cannon ball dive method when it
comes to learning or doing things in other words, I dont sit down and
research before I do something. I just leap right into the deep end and
learn as problems come up.
Gardening has been a HUGE learning experience, and while Im getting
pretty darn good at it, it took two years to learn to maintain the garden so
that it hadnt disappeared in the weeds by June or July. Lol
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Then experience with cucumber beetles, squash bugs, squash BORERS,

and the newest invader last year the blister bug.
First year gardening what food could be had and found in the weeds
lasted the gardening season. The next year I had some in December. Last
years garden, we finished the very last of it this March.
Last years garden was the first one NOT overtaken by weeds and it was
the first that was pleasant just to go and sit in it.
I also learned last year NOT to blanch and freeze whole okra. YUCK.
And bugs and weeds are far from being the ONLY lessons in producing
and storing food.
57. Ben Raines says:
Comment ID: 3383210
May 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm
Great article and responses, JJ. TY 4 dedication.
Scenario 1It would be JUST my luck to be driving when an EMP were to cause my 2003
Tundra or 2003 Echo to die alongside other commuters. I drive less than 200
miles a month.
And of course, it will happen when I am 19.4 miles away (Walmart, gander mt.,
HomeDepot, Asian food store, etc), instead of normal 5.5 mile distance from
home (Kroger, gun store).
Probably happen in my truck that I baby, instead of the gas mizer Echo that I use
like an appliance.
I love that truck! Just my luck! EMPs suck!
I DO know that I wont be 105 miles away on the big river, hunting ducks, with
60 pounds of gear and guns. I am not going to make that trip again, until I can
make it in a 69 or older car. It is the only time I use the Interstate. I can afford a
good deal on a good VW 67 Beetle now probably not post-EMP. I already
have a Chilton repair manual for it, though.
As hard as it would be to do it, I would walk away from my truck. I would grab
my GHB and walk home IMMEDIATELY.
I have read One Second After, and many other TEOTWAWKI-type books, and
I would know what has happened.
I would ignore the people staring under their hoods at their engines and tapping
their cell phones, kicking their tires
and GET HOME before the evil fucks in this world, that know what WE know,
start with their bullshit.
Theres a good chance I wont see other stalled cars coming to a stop. I use
township and county roads mostly. I drive well maintained Toyotas. They just
dont stop working for no reason while your driving.
But, I will know whats happening.
The quiet will be deafening!
No trucks? No cars/motorcycles? no cell signal?, etc? Ill know.
Needless to say that I would be adhering a rule a wise man once wrote
Always Be Armed .
I am confident I can walk 19.4 miles in under 15 hours, avoiding people
and LEO. It would not be stormy weather because I wouldnt make the
once a month, 2hour, supply trip in iffy forecasts. I am thinking 8-10 hours
at my present physical condition, carrying ultralight GHB (BIG bag, little
gear).
Hopefully I am home when the cars stop, but if not, my only objective
would be to get home ASAFP!
I travel only in the AM home by 1400 usually, so hopefully, worse case,
I am home by dawn
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the day after.

The day after
After 1-3 days of NO cars, no internet, no TV, no radio, no EBT, no
ATM, no nothing the S will hit the F!, and I want to be home, using lists
to finish up or start to
-Put vital BO gear in that old Beetle(or two) I hope to have, in case we
need to bug out(pun) to hidey hole 67.7 miles away.
-Working a deal for a horse and/or mule at stable/farm .6 miles away if no
old bug.
-Making my house look like its already been looted and burned out (Joe
Nobody tip).
-Re-instructing my wife on how to put in a full Glock 17 magazine into a
KelTec Sub2000 to replace the 31 rounder that she might have to empty
someday soon.
-Remembering to smile while instructing wife.
-Finding out if that Faraday cage can thing worked!
etc. etc.
I do have a faraday cage. Galvanized trash can and lid with 2 aluminum
tape seal and cardboard.
I dont have a lot of hi-tech stuff, but there is a pair of midland walkie
talkies, an old multi band/ham receiver, and LED flashlights and batteries
in it. I would like to, someday, add a Baofeng, and a computer module for
my 2003 Tundra 44 to it, inside 11mil thick, 55 gallon drum liners. (this
reminds me to inspect that the aluminum tape is still adhering to it).
But if this SHTF EMP were to hit right after I click the submit button, I
will be relying on some old tech stuff.
Old tech information gathering
The local VFW is about 250 yards from my house. After I get the Honda
generators hooked up(if they are working)to the frig and small deep
freezer, and get my wife reacquainted with the KelTec Sub 2000 (again!)
and many G17 magazines (31 round, 9mm), I will double time to the VFW
and play dumb.
The VFW is next to our small, rural town Post Office, across from the
only gas station in town, the local pharmacy, and the local greasy spoon.
From this location I will get a read on what the locals are doing, and how
they are reacting/organizing. The local LEO station is 500 yards from
home, but there is a 80 feet deep ditch in between.
old tech heat if winter.
Wood burning stove on industrial strength dolly, with exhaust piping for
connection to homemade window insert, and 100 feet of flexible ducting
with holes every few inches or so, running its length, to help disguise
smoke signals.
etc.etc. blahblahblah.
I have collected a bunch of old tech stuff, similar to what you and others
have mentioned, that might come in handy when the balloon goes up. I
hope to add some hi-tech goodies before then.
If any SHTF event does not happen by the time I relocate my wahine
back to her family, I will sell off most of it (real assets hold value), and
jump off that bridge when I come to it.
Most likely using information from your relocation article and readers
comments.
In the meantime, I will continue to take frequent breaks from prepping to
shower my wife and bull terrier with love and affection, enjoying their
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ignorant bliss, while we still have power and transportation.

Enjoy it while you got it!
Dave says:
Comment ID: 3417007
July 16, 2015 at 8:09 pm
Well said! Youre a head of me. I have some water and a few large plastic
tubs of food. I have a few gadgets to put in my trash can (faraday cage) as
soon as I buy one. I have a small LED flashlight and a few GOOD knives.
My garden went to heck because I broke my arm, and some surgeon
decided he needed to put a rod and a few screws in it; damn him!! I
expect my preps will get much better when I got back to work. I hope
work starts in couple weeks. I started to seriously prep a couple months
ago. Basically in the past couple months I been downloading every pdf and
reading all my emails and articles i come across about prepping and
ordering a few small things and adding to my list of things to yet get. I
believe I have a fair start on my knowledge base. The information infinite
and addictive. There are certainly worse things to be addicted to. I
appreciate your position you portrayed in your comment.
58. Second to None says:
Comment ID: 3383318
May 10, 2015 at 2:21 am
J.J. While I agree with you on most, I think you missed the mark on how to cook
and/or can. My thought is LP since it has virtually no expiration date and it can
heat, cook and potentially cool. A 100lb tank can be purchased via Craigslist or
at a local garage sale for next to nothing. If you wanted to have a fuel source that
would last for a considerable amount of time, look at a fatboy (100 gallons) or
even a 500 gallons tank. That would last you until the proverbial Cows come
home. Any storage contain and a high BTU output burner (could even be on
your BBQ grill) is enough heat to operate a canner or pressure cooker. I
personally would recommend a Turkey cooker as they can be purchased used
for next to nothing. Fact is, this year they will be giving them away since we will
not have a turkey population for the Thanksgiving Holiday. Sorry, got sidetracked I have canned for many (many) years and do not believe if I had time
to prepare, I would ever use a Coleman stove for canning. Breakfast maybe.
Propane can also be used with a vent free fireplace to provide heat for a period
of time. I am going to forego the safety warning and put it like this: If you dont
know what is safe to use already, there will be a truck with the FEMA sign on the
side of it, just go ahead and get in
God Bless each of you during these trying times
Second to None!
Comment ID: 3383614
May 10, 2015 at 9:55 pm
The most likely long term ways to cook (post-collapse) wont be LP gas. Yes,
its certainly invaluable to have LP gas (and one should note that the volume
changes with temperature for refilling it).
The most likely method of cooking in the wild will be a Dakota Hole fire. Please
look it up to see a very clever method of creating a rocket stove that Native
Americans came up with in history. The hole creates a draft to charge the fire with
more oxygen, as well as concealing much of the flame, and in addition using a
fraction of the firewood.
The most likely method of cooking short term in neighborhoods will be preppers
teaching their neighbors the importance of cooking with a rocket stove by either
using bricks to create a stucture or using discarded cans (if they have gloves and
tin snips to fabricate them.
Why? There is a limited amount of seasoned dead wood lying around your
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neighborhoods. If everyone begins burning up wood, then in desperation they will

begin burning up green wood. Wood will become an important commodity and
much of it wasted by routine methods of cooking. It takes real intelligence to
cook over a wood fire, and most people lack the experience and common sense
to do it. Not to mention they wont have the essential tool of a Dutch oven.
If you dont teach the people around you, as your mentors taught you, then you
wont have a community of people in order to heal the sick, care for the fragile,
teach the Gospel and educate future generations.
However, as time passes, without adequate replanting and nurturing of wood
reserves through planned forestry, then rapidly youll dimish the forest around
you. This is why Native Americans would strike the camp and move to a different
place for hunting, fresh water, and wood.
What is done in 3rd world nations is to teach people to utilize the sun with solar
ovens. If you dont then incorporate this as a strategy long term, then youll end
up with rapid deforstation. As those forests give you acorns, tree crops like
honey locust beans, invalubale cleaning agents from pine, etc, then youll be
shooting yourself in the foot.
LP Gas in not a renewable resource, and so it cannot be a true prepper solution
for the long term. When a collapse comes, it will take forever for stability to
occur, and only by design. Be that stability not only for your family, but also for
your brothers and sisters.
Comment ID: 3384222
May 11, 2015 at 9:45 pm
In a post-collapse world, while we might desire electricity and electronic devices,
the instability of our world, and the lack of infrastructure to produce components,
and a lack of a supply chain to deliver them, will mean greatly modifying our
desires. We will temper them versus what can reasonably be possible.
Heating need not be done by electricity, but without circulation fans to deliver the
heat, well that means a significant need to alter our expectations. Because the
amount of BTUs needed is based upon the burning of fuels, coupled with
insulation of our homes, and the ability to grow renewable fuel sources, the most
logical solution is to live underground. I have no doubt of this for that is the clear
method by which one can minimize fuel needs, reduce the amount of time to cut
and season wood, and to be much warmer based upon the ambient temperature
of underground living. Naturally these places are better insulated and so also
reduce the fuel needed by heating up the natural 55 degrees Fahrenheit
(maintained by underground living) to a comfortable level. It also produces a
natural cooling effect in summer. This means heating only to take the chill off,
nothing more. Its entirely up to the survivors, live as humanity lived normally in
the 21st century, or adapt so as to reduce the necessary work in gathering fuel to
burn.
Lighting can exist without electricity, but for only a span of decades, for the
survivors will be able to cannibalize electronic components, especially bulbs and
LEDs, and hence still produce light. They wont be able to manufacture these
things though. Under and overvoltage will be a constant issue and hence we can
expect a high amount of electronic component failures post-collapse.
We can make light by a variety of methods with the most likely candidate for oil
lanterns utilizing either sunflower(only some varieties bear enough oil) or canola oil
as the oil bearing plants (for sesame will not grow everwhere and it was used in
history). This will be a thriving industry post-collapse. We cannot easily produce
parafin oil. We obviously cannot produce kerosene easily. Carbide headlamps
might again be utilized if we can mine for it.
The main most reason we need electricity is refrigeration. It created a significant
means of chilling food items and even freezing them for later use. Well have to
adjust our current methods by jerking meat, smoking it, canning a tiny amount, for
as time goes onwe wont be able to create jars and lids. The most likely
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method will be dehydrating foods as it reduces shelf space, is shelf-stable, but the
main issue with it is storing fat. Fat cannot be dehydrated without going rancid.
This will be the most important food source to be canned as fat produces twice
the calories of protein or carbohydrates. Fatty meats cant be jerked but
obviously hams can be smoked and they do have some limited fat on them. Those
who can smoke hams will certainly have a marketable skill. Fish can be salted,
but Ill bet most will turn up their nose at how it smells even when still possible to
eat it.
Our ancestors used three primary methods for refrigeration: evaporative cooling
in desert regions done in clay pots and with damp cloth, roots cellars, and
submerged items in large reservoirs of water. If springs are around, then by
recirculating the chilled water through them, then this form of refrigeration was
commonly utilized to chill milk. Sure, you can use ice blocks and sawdust to
lengthen the amount of time before spoilage. This largely is contingent upon
locating it in Winter but its arduous to drag it back, right? While Ice can be found
in the mountains, getting it back safely is difficult, and to do this in sufficient mass
that makes it useful.
As far as I know, theres only two others ways which could also be used for
refrigeration. One is to pull a vacuum and in the formation of that, water will boil
at first and then turn to ice. This phase change can be seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOYgdQp4euc
The other is to connect a pump to a bicycle and pull a vacuum across certain
materials and hence create refrigeration. That only works if the case is very
insulated and as long as someone wants to cyclically continue to pump to keep
the case chilled. This is called zeolite refrigeration, a method used to keep medical
items chilled in 3rd world countries where there is no electricity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEG0ATylzo
Other than this, the main reasons for using electricity will be small low watt
devices. Obviously a large searchlight could occasionally be used in emergencies
or for essential work from your battery bank. Most of this kind of use will be to
occasionally run a laptop to access information, for communications, and for
miscellaneous use.
Theres a high chance of shortwave radio being long range communications, but
of more use would be an AM transmitter as AM is so very common. AM radios
are already around (though unused) and we would certainly be making crystal
radios post-collapse. Small scale AM transmitters could even be used as a
warning system to these crystal radios in a community.
Welding and operating power tools will be the biggest drains on electricity that is
created. Things constantly break under construction and agricultural use. Welding
takes a lot of current (heliarc, spot, and arc welding). Try doing a home project
without power tools, and youll see the tremendous loss of time to do what
formerly took minutes. More labor translates to higher tool breakage, many more
calories (as food) for the people doing the work, and makes small scale creation
of electricity essential in the trade off of this.
61. Survival Skvez says:
Comment ID: 3384485
May 12, 2015 at 8:05 am
A hand crank flashlight has an electronic charger circuit and voltage regulator
circuit and most of them use LEDs (semi-conductor prone to EMP) as a light
source. By contrast an old battery flashlight with an incandescent lamp (wire that
gets hot) and a mechanical on/off switch is a lot less likely to be destroyed by an
EMP.
Your wrist watch (being tiny and isolated) is unlikely to fail (unless field strength is
exceptionally high). I mention this because I dont want people who experience
an EMP but who see their digital watch is still working to incorrectly conclude it
wasnt an EMP.
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Comment ID: 3387920

May 17, 2015 at 12:16 am
There are two primary ways EMP could happen. One is natural from a solar
flare; the other is artificially from a lobbed nuclear device high in the atmosphere
to intentionally cripple electronics.
If its solar, we might have warning because theres alarge body of people
watching X class solar flares plus whether they are Earth-directed. So in those
cases, then faraday cages could be utilized to protect electronics.
If its EMP, then of course we wont have warning. Expect for that to eventually
happen, most likely from an unstable nation like North Korea or Iran. Iran
currently lacks the capacity, but North Korea, especially with their space
program, might be able to at least lob one device. Iran however wishes to usher
in the age of the Mahdi, their former of saviour (who certainly sounds like the
Anti-Christ), so why Im concerned about Iran.
Regardless, the mostly likely scenario would be submarine based launches and at
least three. Why? Submarine based launches would give the least warning. Thats
been in the ex-Soviets strategic manual forever. True instability with Russia might
cause them to try that, but only out of desperation, as our own military facilities
are hardened and retaliation would destroy both. Mutually Assured Destruction
after all. But a rogue element or a coup within Russia could result in such
uncertainty causing a release of three or more EMP devices.
80% of the USAs citizens live in urban areas. To cripple the USAs
infrastructure, and based upon the area-of-effect of an EMP weapon, the most
likely case is an East Coast release, a West Coast release, and maybe one in the
Texas region. That would cause the most bang-for-the-buck, crippling electronics
for the most people, and most would fall within those areas of effect.
But not all of us. Which means even though artificial EMP release would get
most, it would be highly likely for pockets with low population density to be only
somewhat or unaffected. Even if they lack Faraday cages.
It would be nearly impossible to have all of the information stored in printed
books to survive a major collapse. Public libraries would be important, but most
are filled with nonsense information that has no practical value. But if one had a
means of surviving, had a portable hard drive with prepper information stored
upon it, then that repository might be accessed as some of the most valuable
information for the survivors. Sounds cheesy, but within the realm of possibility.
You cant count upon it surviving, or ever being accessed again, and should rely
upon printed information, but this is strategy that might work with something as
simple as a solar battery charge, that portable hard drive, and a device that can
read those files (like a Kindle or a laptop).
63. CommonCents says:
Comment ID: 3392796
May 25, 2015 at 11:05 pm
I recently received a very convincing and compelling 40-minute video that some
type of cataclysmic event will occur within the next 18 months, meaning
somewhere between any minute now up to 18 months from now. What I dont
understand is why millions of foreigners are buying up expensive East coast
(mostly NYC), and West coast (mostly Silicon Valley, CA) real estate not
modest homes to flip, but homes and apts ranging from $1 million to $40 million.
64. VolunteerVeteran says:
Comment ID: 3412310
July 7, 2015 at 1:04 am
At one time there was an illustration for file cabinet security that I can no longer
locate. Is that by design, or am I just inept?
Dave says:
Comment ID: 3417015
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65. Nanook says:
Comment ID: 3421485
July 25, 2015 at 9:49 pm
First off, I too spent some time under a green beanie. Also, was in the 82d
(2/325 RECON). Not creds, just sayin
Another paratrooper by the name Arthur T. Bradley has written extensively on
the subject of EMP. He actually works in the field for the govt. His books are on
Amazon & he has numerous UTube videos on faraday cages & EMP. DOL
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Comment ID: 3381875

Once the faraday cage is constructed the theory for

ground level. In that case the EMP would be

A microwave oven makes a great Faraday cage. Buy an old

be hell on earth if a grid down actually occurred.

Genius, in that case, Ill have to get a SECOND can,

May 7, 2015 at 8:59 pm

video of the technology in action. We make charcoal from

May 7, 2015 at 9:46 pm

May 7, 2015 at 1:10 pm

Comment ID: 3382138

May 7, 2015 at 3:18 pm

Comment ID: 3382136

Yeah. I noticed a lot of news coverage on the topic too.

Comment ID: 3382182

May 8, 2015 at 12:10 am

alternator to charge a battery bank.

May 8, 2015 at 7:29 am

wind took it down.

54. A Man Named Anon says:

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Then experience with cucumber beetles, squash bugs, squash BORERS,

the day after.

ignorant bliss, while we still have power and transportation.

neighborhoods. If everyone begins burning up wood, then in desperation they will

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