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stoney73
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Reply #75on:April01,2010,11:21:41
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IthinkthereisalreadyanewmodelPD1851

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tjlimjoco
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Reply #76on:April02,2010,07:35:53
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Quotefrom:Jef2onA pril01,2010,08:09:38PM
ye swe didbe fore .x statichasafe wofthe se pdwoofe rs.

forcom parisonsak e ,'norm al'to'loud'le ve ls,alm ostthe sam e re sponse and


outputbutiwouldgive som e e dge topdform ore bassde finition.butfrom 'loud'
to'e x tre m e lyloud',the sd18e listhe cle arbe ast
.thisiswhe nyoucan
cle arlyhe arthe diffe re nce be twe e nare al1000wattsfrom an800wattswoofe r

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that'swhyiinve ste donthe sd18e l.

precisiondevicepd1850800watts5inchvcoilp31750srp

paudiosd18el1000watts5inch'inandout'vcoilp16000srp

Tnxsirjef.Anungtypeofboxnyoplakinabityungdalawangspeakerssaka
watampangginamitnyofortesting?
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Jef2
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Reply #77on:April02,2010,09:48:26
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Quotefrom:stoney73onA pril01,2010,11:21:41PM

Ithink the re isalre adyane wm ode lPD1851

yesi'veheardthatthisisnowthe1000wattsversion.

howmuchkaya

ito?

thepdwoofersareusuallyusedformostturbosoundtouringsubs.
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Jef2
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Reply #78on:April02,2010,09:52:02
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Quotefrom:tjlimjocoonA pril02,2010,07:35:53A M
Tnx sirje f.Anungtype ofbox nyoplak inabityungdalawangspe ak e rssak awat
am pangginam itnyoforte sting?

xstatic'ssubscoop

powerampsaresoundstandardca18andthenwe

triedthemonthecrownvz5000.

btw,ithinkthereisalreadyanewdealerofpdherebassheadmarketingifi
rememberitcorrectlyfromanotherforum.
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Re:AnUMaSOksAInYoNgSUb
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stoney73
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Reply #79on:April02,2010,11:08:37
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Quotefrom:Jef2onA pril02,2010,09:48:26A M

ye si've he ardthatthisisnowthe 1000wattsve rsion.

howm uchk ayaito?

the pdwoofe rsare usuallyuse dform ostturbosoundtouringsubs.

I'msureitwillbemorethan31khehehe.

AsidefromthePDdrivers,VoidV181000isatopbrandalsointheEuropean
touringcircuit.NolocaldealersyetIthink?

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Re:AnUMaSOksAInYoNgSUb
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tjlimjoco
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Reply #80on:April02,2010,11:57:01
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Quotefrom:stoney73onA pril02,2010,11:08:37A M
I'm sure itwillbe m ore than31k he he he .

Aside from the PDdrive rs,VoidV181000isatopbrandalsointhe Europe an


touringcircuit.Nolocalde ale rsye tIthink ?

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ThisissimilartomyNeuschPD1850wooferbefore

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stoney73
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Reply #81on:April02,2010,03:03:26
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Quotefrom:tjlimjocoonA pril02,2010,11:57:01A M

Thisissim ilartom yNe uschPD1850woofe rbe fore

YahIguessyouweretoldthatVOIDcopiedNeuschorNeuschmakesforVOID
etc.etc.(pronouncedasnoseornoooseornewsornoize???)

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sikyo
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Reply #82on:April02,2010,06:59:11
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perhapsNeuschispronouncedlikeNeumann(noyman)andNeutrik(madein
Liechtenstein,mustbeGerman?)well,ifican'taffordaNeumann,imightas
wellpronounceitright,right!?yunnalangangkonsueloko!hehe

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MAKINGSOUNDMATTER

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Re:AnUMaSOksAInYoNgSUb
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stoney73
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Reply #83on:April02,2010,09:11:52
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Thissubnamed"HogScoop"recommendsthePrecisionDevicePD1850,Void
V181000,VoidV181200,B&C18TBX100,18Sound18LW 1400orP.Audio
SD18elbutnotmyC18elf

HogScoopwithPD1850

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Re:AnUMaSOksAInYoNgSUb
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Jef2
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Reply #84on:April03,2010,10:07:00
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Quotefrom:stoney73onA pril02,2010,03:03:26PM
YahIgue ssyouwe re toldthatVO IDcopie dNe uschorNe uschm ak e sforVO IDe tc.
e tc.(pronounce dasnose ornooose orne wsornoize ???)

angibigdinsabihinnisirstoneyditoayhaloslahatngbinibentanachina
madespeakersay'overrated'angspecsatpowerratingspara
magmumukhangmurasilabutinfactyoudon'tgetwhatyoureallyneedand
want.theyusuallymakeunbelievable'claims'.it'seasytolabelawooferas
1000wattsor1500wattsbutinreality,swertekakungpapalosa600watts
ito.masokdinifyoureadfromotherforumsaboutproaudiotoreallyknow
onhowaparticularbrandperformsabroad...andtocheckifaspecificbrand
reallyexists.

justmytwocents
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barracks01
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Reply #85on:April03,2010,10:35:43
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Quotefrom:stoney73onA pril02,2010,09:11:52PM
Thissubnam e d"HogScoop"re com m e ndsthe Pre cisionDe vice PD1850,VoidV18
1000,VoidV181200,B&C 18TBX100,18Sound18LW 1400orP.AudioSD18e lbut
notm yC 18e lf

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HogScoopwithPD1850

sirstoneyanongmaterialangginamitmosahogscoopmo?imsureitsnota
marineplywood..
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Re:AnUMaSOksAInYoNgSUb
18"SpeAker?

stoney73
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Reply #86on:April03,2010,11:50:18
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Quotefrom:barracks01onA pril03,2010,10:35:43A M

sirstone yanongm ate rialangginam itm osahogscoopm o?im sure itsnota


m arine plywood..

Sirthat'snotminehehe.Igotitfromanotherforumsincewe'vebeen
discussingPDandVoidspeakerslately.

Fromthelooksofit,Ithinkit'sMDF.
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Re:AnUMaSOksAInYoNgSUb
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Jef2
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Reply #87on:April03,2010,01:22:24
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Quotefrom:Jef2onMarch31,2010,08:25:05A M

precisiondevicepd1850

Nom inalDiam e te r(18")


Powe rrating800W atts
Fre que ncyrange 352000Hz
Nom inalIm pe dance 8O hm s
Se nsitivity(1W 1M)98dB
Highe stR e com m e nde dC rossove r400Hz
R e sonance 30Hz
Enc.Vol.R e com m e nde d90to220Litre s
Effe ctive PistonDiam e te r382m m (15.05)

p31,750lastupdate dprice

addkolang,thereconekitforthepd1850costsp17500each.

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Jef2
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Reply #88on:April03,2010,04:05:17
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looneybinsub(themodifiedpd1850hornsubpreviouslytailoredfitforthe
pd1850woofersonly)andnowdesignedforthevoidv18100018"woofers.

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stoney73
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Reply #89on:April04,2010,09:50:54
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Quotefrom:Jef2onA pril03,2010,04:05:17PM
looneybinsub(the m odifie dpd1850hornsubpre viouslytailore dfitforthe pd1850
woofe rsonly)andnowde signe dforthe voidv18100018"woofe rs.

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IalsoreadthatthePD1850hornsubrequiresspeakersthathave5"voice
coilslikePD1850,VOIDV181000/1200andP.AudioSD18el.I'mnotsureifI
readitonaRomaniansponsoredforum.
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king_james
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Reply #90on:April04,2010,11:07:14
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Quotefrom:stoney73onA pril04,2010,09:50:54A M
Ialsore adthatthe PD1850hornsubre quire sspe ak e rsthathave 5"voice coilslik e
PD1850,VO IDV181000/1200andP.AudioSD18e l.I'm notsure ifIre aditona
R om aniansponsore dforum .

Bro,itseemsthattheSd18elistheonlyasianmadespeakerthatcanmatch
the"bigguns"fromEuropelikethePd1850andVoidV18speakersatalmost
halfthepricebutIbudgetforonlylessthan10keach.W emightstillreorder
theC18650soon.HArhar
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stoney73
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Reply #91on:April04,2010,03:37:46
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Bro,itse e m sthatthe Sd18e listhe onlyasianm ade spe ak e rthatcanm atchthe
"bigguns"from Europe lik e the Pd1850andVoidV18spe ak e rsatalm osthalfthe
price butIbudge tforonlyle ssthan10k e ach.W e m ightstillre orde rthe C 18650
soon.HArhar

ForthecaseofthePD1850hornsub.ButunliketheMartinAudioW SX18
subs,theC18650canbeatparwithtopEuropeanbrandsliketheVoidV18
1000andPrecisionDevisePD184.I'veseengraphicalpresentationsofa
hornrespbetweentheC18650andtheVoidV181000andaPD184fora
W SX18subandtheyalmosthaveverysimilarresponses.
thinkitisfairlypricedat9200eachonlyright?

Don'tyou

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stoney73
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Reply #92on:April04,2010,04:34:03
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Moreonthehornrespgraphicalpresentationsbetween1)18sound18w1000
1000w,2)Voidv181000wand3)P.AudioC18650el650wwhichIreadfrom
anotherforum:

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TheVoidV18exhibitsthehighestSPL(above115dB).18soundandP.Audio
havesimilarresponsecurvesatbelow115dBbutP.Audiohasatleast1dB
advantageover18sound.

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tjlimjoco
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Reply #93on:April05,2010,07:22:21
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Quotefrom:stoney73onA pril04,2010,04:34:03PM
More onthe hornre spgraphicalpre se ntationsbe twe e n1)18sound18w10001000w,
2)Voidv181000wand3)P.AudioC 18650e l650wwhichIre adfrom anothe r
forum :

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The VoidV18e x hibitsthe highe stSPL(above 115dB).18soundandP.Audiohave


sim ilarre sponse curve satbe low115dBbutP.Audiohasatle ast1dBadvantage
ove r18sound.

Sir,c0rrectmeifI'mwr0ng.Kayamasmalakasangv0idv18sadalawaay
dahil5"v0icec0ilat1000wattsit0?Per0yung18s0undna1000wattsmas
mahinang1dbsapaudioc18na650wattslang.Per0maynakapagsabisakin
na1dbdifferenceisbarelyn0ticeable.TmabA?TnX
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Reply #94on:April05,2010,08:09:01
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morehornrespgraphs:

1)BetweenC18650elandPrecisionDevicePD184

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2)BetweenC18650elandRCFL18P300

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king_james
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Reply #95on:April06,2010,02:39:19
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Quotefrom:stoney73onA pril05,2010,08:09:01PM
m ore hornre spgraphs:

1)Be twe e nC 18650e landPre cisionDe vice PD184

2)Be twe e nC 18650e landR C FL18P300

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OknadinplaangC18650!harhar
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stoney73
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Reply #96on:April06,2010,11:05:56
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Quotefrom:king_jamesonA pril06,2010,02:39:19PM
O k nadinplaangC 18650!harhar

YesbeforePhilmusic,Iwasdoingsomeresearchfortherightreplacementfor
myFaneColossus18",theC18650willfitandatafairprice.Butmorethan
theprice,it'sreallyatparwithknownspeakerbrandsinEurope.AlthoughI
endupwiththenewer800wattsversionsinceImightupgrademyampsoon
that'swhytheC18elfseemsbetterforme.
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stoney73
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Reply #97on:April08,2010,01:51:08
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Quotefrom:tjlimjocoonA pril05,2010,07:22:21A M
Sir,c0rre ctm e ifI'm wr0ng.Kayam asm alak asangv0idv18sadalawaaydahil5"
v0ice c0ilat1000wattsit0?Pe r0yung18s0undna1000wattsm asm ahinang
1dbsapaudioc18na650wattslang.Pe r0m aynak apagsabisak inna1db
diffe re nce isbare lyn0tice able .Tm abA?TnX

Ithinkbydesignthisshouldbethecasesincealargerdiametervoicecoil
meansgreaterpowerhandling.
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ForthecaseoftheC18650havinga1dBgainoverthe18sound1000w,
probablythe18soundisjustoverrated???
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king_james
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Reply #98on:April08,2010,11:28:06
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Quotefrom:stoney73onA pril08,2010,01:51:08A M
Ithink byde signthisshouldbe the case since alarge rdiam e te rvoice coilm e ans
gre ate rpowe rhandling.

Forthe case ofthe C 18650havinga1dBgainove rthe 18sound1000w,probably


the 18soundisjustove rrate d???

ortheC18650isunderratedfora650watter

HarHar
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stoney73
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Reply #99on:April08,2010,08:46:14
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Here'soneforthebooks.It'squiteobviousthattheSd18,istheoneatpar,
and,inmylowlyeyes,hasabitofanadvantageovertheVoidV18.

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