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Is it good to have a higher slew rate ? What are some of the effects due to slew rate limitations?

This question is in relation to the working of an op-amp. I know what slew rate is but I asked 1 year ago
am not entirely sure whether is it good to have a high slew rate. As far as my
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understanding goes, a higher slew rate should allow the op-amp to give the output as
2 per the input without time delay. Is this correct ? and what are the effects due to slew active 3 months ago
rate limitations ?

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1 Slew rate does not depend on frequency alone. It depends on voltage as well.
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Yes, a high slewrate can more faithfully reproduce the signal. Higher slewrate components
costs more so one tries to get away with as little as possible. High slewrate components will see an example newsletter
also require more supply current and larger capacitors and cause noise in surrounding
components. KalleMP Nov 13 '14 at 8:38
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High slew rate is not always a good thing. By fourier a perfect square wave requires gain at all
frequencies - clearly impossible - but high slew rate amplifiers will have more high frequency
gain which may cause stability problems and drive the need for careful layout. N.G. near Aug 6
10 at 11:44 Op-Amp Slew Rate Requirements

4 Answers active oldest votes Regarding slew rates, w hat w ould be the
minimum for amplifying audio using an op-amp?

Slew rate limits will cause distortion at high output frequency and amplitude. If your amp 5
is slew rate limited, putting in a periodic waveform (sine, square, etc.) will result in Op-amp slew rate over frequency
something that looks a bit like a sawtooth wave. This can create frequency harmonics
5 that are not present in the original signal, especially when the source signal is a pure 1
sinewave. Generally, you need to have a high enough slew rate for the highest
frequency and output voltage that your circuit needs to support. Op-amp inverter amplifier, low current, w ith AC
noise at 50Hz
The slew rate is another term for slope. The maximum slope of a sinewave is equal to
its amplitude times its angular frequency (derivative of Asin(2ft) 5
at the zero crossing at t = 0 LM358 Datasheet and configuration
is 2fA
). So a 1 MHz signal at 1 V amplitude (2 V peak to peak) has a maximum slope of
3
2 1V 1MHz = 6.28V/s
. If your amp has a slew rate of less than 6.28V/s Mechanism of On Chip Slew -Rate Limiting
, then you will get a triangle wave if you try to get it to output a 1 MHz 1 V sinewave. Mechanism
Note that the slew rate has to do with the output voltage of the op amp, not the gain.
That being said, it usually affects high gain circuits more because the signals tend to be 2
larger.
Assumptions for an op-amp and w hen they do
In op-amps, slew rate and bandwidth tend to be linked - high speed op amps tend to and don't hold?
have fast slew rates, otherwise they wouldn't be very useful. Fast slew rates will allow
an op amp to overshoot or ring at a larger output swing than an op amp with equivalent 0
bandwidth but a slower slew rate. Slower slew rates can help limit overshoot and ringing Op Amp Fundamentals
in many cases. Another thing to consider is the power supply - the output current has to
come from somewhere. Very fast slew rate op amps require a very low impedance
power supply. This may require placing multiple capacitors of different values very close
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to the op amp - generally a combination of large, bulk capacitance and small, high Active rectifier and its slew rate limitation..?
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Slew rate limitations can be helpful for reducing the harmonic content of digital signals. 0
Some devices have a propensity for producing very fast edges (e.g. FPGAs) which, while
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You mostly care about the slew rate, when the output voltage is large. (Several volts)
At lower amplitudes you'll care more about the GBW product. Some opamps will quote
the full power bandwidth, the BW at maximum output amplitude. In general this will be
1 determined by the slew rate.
share improve this answer answered Nov 13 '14 at 15:05

George Herold
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Op amps can be used for many purposes. Generally, one will want to have a slew rate
which is fast enough that the op amp will never be slew-rate limited while processing a
"continuous" AC signal. On the other hand, if an op amp will be used to process a
1 discontinuous signal which represents a number of DC levels in sequence, the output of
the op amp will be sampled some time after the input changes, a slew rate which is slow
but still sufficient for the output to reach the required level before it is sampled may
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 but still sufficient for the output to reach the required level before it is sampled may
reduce the likelihood of overshoot compared with a faster slew rate.
Another way of looking at things is to say that if the input to an op amp will "naturally"
be free of transitions that would be sharper than what is wanted or needed in the
output, then one should use an op amp whose slew rate is at least as fast as the
maximum slew rate that will be commanded from the input. If, however, the input may
contain extremely sharp transitions and the output doesn't need to reproduce them,
using a slew-rate-limited amplifier may, "for free", help to reduce the sharpness of the
transitions in the output and the ringing or other nastiness that such sharpness might
cause. Use of an op amp with a higher slew rate than needed may reduce the amount
of help that provides.
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