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Right, way back in 2008 we ran a question that we sent out to a bunch of hold company's and then we published the
results. As the climbing market has got much larger in the two years since we originally ran this we decided to run it
again. We pretty well emailed EVERY company around« some people flat out didn¶t respond, some people didn¶t
want to take part (They told us)
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people about what you¶d send to people if they had $200 to spend on holds. (We ran this in Feb 2008), we had a
bunch of answers and as the market has progressed a lot since then we've decided to run it again!
This time it's a little different, we're being a little more thorough this time with the questions, they're a little more
specific and will take a little more answering. Please include images of the holds you're talking about with your
replies (to save us having to go and dig through your sites / my hard drive for them.)
FYI: You are being timed on this, we're acting like a customer so we are expecting timely responses (One week is
the time limit! From the second I press the send button) Results will be posted within the next few weeks, any
company that has been emailed but hasn't replied within the time limit will be included in the results, but we¶ll
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If someone called or emailed you wanting to buy holds and they had $200 (or the equivalent in whichever country
you're in) to spend on holds, excluding shipping, but didn't know your company OR your brand what would you
send them??? (Retail prices not wholesale prices) There are three different climbers that need help:
mBeginner climber: Home wall of 15 / 30 / Vertical and small roof section. They'd like part of the budget to be
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mExpert climber: Home wall of 15 / 30 / 45 / large roof and small vertical section. They'd like part of the budget
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Do you have a "Hold of the month club?", if you do how much is it per month and what should people expect to
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Do you have starter kits listed upon your site for someone that's building a home wall?
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What you're about to see is the results from the company's, in the order that they came to us. We've obviously added
a little information about what the holds are made from and we've run some math so you get a break down of how
many holds you get and the price of the holds. Most company¶s went for as close to the $200 mark, in all cases we
have taken prices from their site for the break downs«
Keep in mind that our price per holds includes jibs and foot holds (Where we asked for footholds). If you look at the
price per hold and then look at the number of footholds then you can see why that company may ³seem´ to have a
better price per hold as it does get skewed.
I'd like to point out that as I'm the rep for a bunch of companies in Canada (DRCC/Climb It/Project Holds) that if the
mail / call came through to me that I'd actually answer the customer. But to be fair I've not added anything, I've let
my guys answer the question and I've not shown any favor towards them.
We also liked the Element Climbing response so much we stole their formatting for easier reading« before when
this was being edited it was a nightmare to sort out. Now we think it`s pretty clean looking [ Every answer has a
break down after it of the price per hold and the number of holds in what has been suggested for that climber« in
some cases the formatting is different as to format it would have broken the flow of their answer
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Ôm mOk, I¶ll take the hit on this one« I did kind of email the wrong person; note to self I should
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do. Keep an eye out as we¶re taking a very close look at one of their starter kits very soon for anyone that¶s looking
at that kind of thing. Either way their response is pretty interesting when it comes to the ³expert´ climber as we
specified that the person didn¶t know the brand and had never seen the holds from the company (that¶s a hard one to
swallow as Metolius is one of the oldest climbing hold makers out there), c¶est la vie [
Metolius has the most starter packs on the market of differing sizes and I¶ve been known to point someone towards
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reviewed much from them thus far but we do have some more reviews coming pretty soon« suggesting those
crimps for a beginner climber is a total fail as they¶re just too small in our opinion for a beginner. They also failed
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Ôm Pretty good and the last one through the door« but to be fair Daniel was snowed and he mailed
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holds look like they pack a punch, in most cases you¶re getting a lot of their line up in the mix. The fact that after
getting my email from their spam they had an answer and some images to us within 2-3 hours is pretty impressive.
They missed the footholds for the beginner climber, but I didn¶t see any footholds on their site, they did mention
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you¶ll get a lot of information in others you won¶t get so much! There were a lot of people that didn¶t answer at all
so they¶re obviously not listed here« if they do ever get around to answering we¶ll probably run an update at a later
point in time.
Next time we¶ll go for weight of climbing holds and number of climbing holds and then we¶ll split our results
between resin (heavier) and other types of materials like urethane (lighter) so the results are a fair. But there are a
number of conclusions we can draw« if you¶re rocking resin holds they¶re always cheaper on the whole, but if
you¶re gunning for urethane you¶re paying a slightly higher price« but they should last longer.
Company Material tarter kits Hold of the Beginner Price per Intermediate Price per Expert Price per Did they
month club hold hold hold answer
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No of No of holds No of
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Petrogrips ynrock No No 85 2.46 85 2.46 85 2.46 Not bad
Atomik rethane Yes Yes 66 3.03 60 3.66 1 4.0 Good
Holds Poly No No Rubbish
Friction rethane Not yet oon 3 5.54 40 5.12 3 5.54 Good
Element rethane oon Yes 40 4. 5 28 .24 43 4.41 Very good
Rock rethane Yes Yes Not so

Candy good
Contact rethane Kind of No 1 2.25 69 2. 9 58 3.36 Good
Asana rethane No Yes 29 6. 2 30 .2 28 .0 Good
ummit rethane No Not yet 23 6.34 39 5.0 39 5.0 Good
DRCC rethane Yes Yes 22 8.1 16 10.31 13 Very good
ncarved rethane oon No 33 .22 18 9. 1 31 5.96 Good
e-Grips rethane Yes Yes 35 5.68 40 4.85 45 4.42 Very Good
Escape rethane Yes No 40 5.25 22 9.35 35 6.05 Very good
Metolius Resin Yes No 90 2.22 90 2.22 5 2.31 Good
World Cup rethane No No 4 4.23 24 8.41 44 4.68 Good
o Ill rethane Yes Yes 40 5.32 28 . 8 35 6.42 Good
prising rethane Kind of No 26 .65 18 10.83 26 .5 Late
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Company Contact phone Contact email
Petrogrips 814-360-4130 petrogrips@hotmail.com

Atomik 801-404-0280 kenny@atomikclimbingholds.com
Holds 01924 265222 info@holdz.co.uk
Friction 416. 23.21 1 info@frictionclimbing.com
Element 1-8 - 35-3636 contact@elementclimbing.com
Rock Candy 330.289.2420 nathan@rockcandyholds.com
Contact contact@contactclimbing.com
Asana 208. 61.00 4 adam@asanaclimbing.com
ummit 303- 48-3338 morgan@summitlabs.net
DRCC (248) 454-1 20 info@TheDRCC.com
ncarved 0422 105 510 info@uncarvedblock.com.au
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Metolius (541) 382- 585 info@metoliusclimbing.com
World Cup 312.505.2813 jeff@worldcupclimbingholds.com
o Ill (618) 420-9388 daniel@soillholds.com
prising (+64) 3 389 1904 sefton@uprising-online.com
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