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BRIC: Brazil, Russia,
India and China.
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They say these countries
will lead the world.
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Is happiness expecting us...
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or a future of poverty
plus technology?
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No one will be the same
after this journey.
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BRIC, The New World.
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Hello, Jorge Lanata.
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Everything's OK?
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I arrived in Sao Paulo,
the excessive city.
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Some say that in the time
a carioca takes to wake up,
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ten apartments are built
in Sao Paulo.
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Sao Paulo
is the New York of the South.
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It has jewels and trash cans
and a certain melancholy.
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And eternal traffic jams
and money, lots of money.
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Twenty years ago, Brazil was
an inflation-stricken country.
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Today, it's one of the fastest-
growing economies of the world,
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the tenth in the planet.
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Brazil has a population
of 200 million people,
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and is one of the most
urbanized countries...
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in the world,
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85 percent of its inhabitants
live in cities.
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Sao Paulo exploded.
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600 new cars get out
into its streets every day.
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The helicopters have become...
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taxi cabs for businessmen...
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and fly over the city
with their bee bellies,
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landing delicately
on the terraces.
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Why does Brazil grow?
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I think it's because
after many years...
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we started doing
the right things.
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Does this process need Lula
in order to continue?
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Could it go on without Lula?
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Yes, I think it could go on
without Lula,
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because the process
is already solid.
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I don't think Brazil
or the Brazilians...
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like to live adventures
like those of last year.
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We went through
a difficult process,
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an inflationary process,
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without a national strategy,
without a plan.
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And today we have a paradox,
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we can't grow
as much as we could...
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because we'd have
several problems...
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with infrastructure,
logistics, transport,
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harbors, airports, etc.
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We did attack one of our
most serious problems,
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one we could never solve:
the housing problem.
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We have nearly
2 million people...
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living in favelas in Brazil.
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FAVELA PARAISOPOLIS.
SAO PAULO, BRAZIL.
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You have a serious problem
here, drug trafficking,
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that you couldn’t solve.
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Yes, we have a problem
with drug trafficking...
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That is easier to solve
in other countries...
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because they take
stronger measures
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We have to deal
with a democratic process.
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Democratic countries
have more difficulties...
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in dealing with this problem...
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than not so democratic
countries.
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If you had to define three
or four key issues...
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that the industry faces...
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regarding the future of Brazil,
what would you choose?
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I'd choose, for example,
innovation.
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Technological innovation?
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Technological innovation,
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but not only technological.
Innovation in all areas.
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Brazil invests
in the ultimate technology...
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for research in ethanol,
biofuel and nanoscience.
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Science, who for centuries
looked at the Universe...
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and the big phenomena...
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started to investigate little
things a few decades ago.
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That's what quantum physics
and nanotechnology do:
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they try to find
the littlest particle,
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what they call
the elementary particles.
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There is another universe
in a speck of dust.
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The Brazilian Light Laboratory
Synchrotron...
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has the biggest particle
accelerator in Latin America.
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There are only two
in the Southern Hemisphere,
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the other one is in Australia.
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I think there must be...
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an educational revolution
in Brazil,
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we've really fallen behind.
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We have great difficulties...
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with skilled labor,
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we spend a lot of time
educating economists,
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lawyers, political scientists,
but not the engineers we need.
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SAO PAULO UNIVERSITY.
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Good morning.
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O'Neill thinks that Brazil,
Russia, China and India...
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will be world powers...
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in the near future.
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Do you agree?
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I think that if we define
the notion of world power...
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in economic terms,
he may be right.
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Is that possible
in economic terms?
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Yes, probably.
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But not in social terms?
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I think that, in social terms,
we're well behind.
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Why?
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In Brazil,
talking about progress...
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only in economic terms
it's very restrictive.
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In Brazil, for example,
45% of the per capita income...
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is in the hands
of 10% of the people.
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It's very few people.
What do you think?
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I think that Brazil
still doesn't have...
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a project that goes beyond
the limits of the government.
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We're used
to public policies...
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aimed at certain sectors...
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or during certain periods.
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They don't think of a long-term
development.
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So, how do they think...
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they'll improve the economy,
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the social
and environmental issues?
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How can we walk together
towards that Brazilian wealth?
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I think that Brazil
is a privileged country...
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considering its natural
resources: the Amazon,
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the water, the Atlantic Forest,
its flora,
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its fauna, and we're doing
nothing with all that,
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we always try to follow
the developed countries:
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the United States, Europe,
that deforested their woods.
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We have to try and learn
for ourselves.
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Before 2013,
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Brazil will have
nine new oil platforms,
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that will rise
Petrobras' production...
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to 790.000 barrels a day...
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and 35 million cubic meters
of natural gas.
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These platforms
are called pressure lands,
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and they were so christened
because they are located...
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several kilometers deep
under seawater...
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and below stone and salt layers
that are hard to drill.
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Petrobras will invest...
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between 200...
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and 220 billion dollars...
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in the period 2010-2014.
Thus, Brazil will become...
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one of the most important...
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oil producers in the world.
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The BRIC's fantasy
is that these countries...
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will dominate the world
in the years to come.
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Has Brazil the vocation
to be a leading country?
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No, I don't think
it has that vocation.
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I think Brazil is interested...
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in having
a certain leadership...
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in some areas,
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in several areas, but not
in being a leading country.
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We don't have the population,
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the power or the money for that.
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A country
with our difficulties...
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can still exercise an important
political leadership,
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something we couldn't do
15 or 20 years ago,
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but we're still far...
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from economic leadership.
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The role of Brazil...
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in the international community
is growing.
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Yes, it's growing, but more
in political terms...
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than in economic terms.
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Thank you very much.
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Brazil is the country
that received...
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more direct foreign investment
last year.
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It's one
of the most important...
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airplane producers
in the world...
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and has over 200 million
head of cattle.
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It manages 40%...
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of the international
meat market...
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and is the first chicken
exporter in the world.
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Is this country the true leader
of the BRIC?
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Hello, good afternoon.
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-Welcome.
-Thanks.
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This is not a common
shopping mall.
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Its name is "Ciudad Jardín"...
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and you can only enter by car.
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There are no pedestrians.
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It has the biggest spa
in Sao Paulo...
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and it also has expensive
cinemas and two VIP cinemas...
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that cost twice the price
of the common cinemas.
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The best brands in the world
are in "Ciudad Jardín."
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We'll go to see them now.
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Sao Paulo spends
in the luxury segment...
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4 billion dollars a year,
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4 billion.
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This city has 60
shopping malls, and this one...
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is the best, the most expensive
and exclusive:
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Ciudad Jardín.
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There's another one, Daslu,
that competes with this one.
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Its clients usually get there
by helicopter.
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There is a repressed demand,
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Brazilians longed for years
for consumer goods...
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that they couldn't find
in Brazil.
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So I think that the exponential
growth...
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of the luxury market in Brazil
from the 90s on...
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has to do a lot
with the possibility...
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of responding to that demand...
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that was repressed for years.
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Luxury needs comprehension.
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Due to the consumption growth,
a Master in Luxury Management,
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that cost 25.000 dollars,
was created in Sao Paulo.
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This Master exists only
in Paris, Monaco and Sao Paulo.
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There, Paulistas learn
how to create, develop...
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and sell luxury products.
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When we talk about luxury
in Brazil,
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we talk about a series
of enterprises...
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in different sectors...
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that complement every area
of life,
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like, for example, aviation.
SUB[6 I 01:17:49:05>01:17:52:09]
The plane maker Embrear
competes today with Cessna,
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Airbus and the main plane
makers in the world.
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It sells private jets...
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that go from 4 to 25 million
dollars...
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and has in its waiting list...
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orders from all over
the world.
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It has 17.000 employees...
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and makes, on average,
250 planes a year.
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The so-called luxury market...
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will grow
twice as the country economy...
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in the next 20 years.
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People are not ashamed
of feeling pleasure anymore,
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of perceiving themselves
as individuals...
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and feeling the pleasure
of consumption.
SUB[6 I 01:18:34:09>01:18:37:21]
The Ciudad Jardín complex
is surrounded by railings,
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has a security system...
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similar to that
of the US Embassy...
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and is the area of the city
that resembles New York.
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José Zeco Auriemo, CEO of JHSF,
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is the owner of Ciudad Jardín.
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And is also the king...
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of the luxury
real estate market.
SUB[0 I 01:19:00:03>01:19:03:00]
Zeco has his offices
on the third floor of the mall.
SUB[0 I 01:19:07:26>01:19:10:29]
He's 34 years old and has...
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one of the biggest fortunes
in Brazil.
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He never wastes his time,
we have lunch in his office...
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while we talk about money
and projects.
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To what kind of people
is the mall targeted?
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To the upper class.
SUB[0 N 01:19:39:24>01:19:44:20]
The average purchase here
is around 3 million Reales.
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How much is it in dollars?
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2 million, 1.8 million dollars.
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The money of the upper class
stays in Brazil...
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or goes to fiscal paradises?
SUB[0 N 01:19:59:10>01:20:04:27]
Today, the level of Brazilian
investment in Brazil...
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is very high, higher than ever.
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That has to do...
SUB[0 N 01:20:13:13>01:20:14:13]
with the confidence
in the system?
SUB[0 N 01:20:14:19>01:20:16:13]
I think it's the confidence
in the system...
SUB[0 N 01:20:16:20>01:20:21:24]
and the professionalization
and growth of the companies.
SUB[0 N 01:20:22:15>01:20:24:16]
In our Latin American
countries...
SUB[0 N 01:20:24:21>01:20:27:07]
paying the taxes
is not very common,
SUB[0 N 01:20:27:13>01:20:31:11]
it's as if the people thought
that the state works by itself.
SUB[0 N 01:20:31:16>01:20:36:08]
How are things with taxes
in Brazil?
SUB[0 N 01:20:37:21>01:20:39:21]
Is the underground economy big?
SUB[0 N 01:20:39:28>01:20:43:05]
And what about
the tax evasion levels?
SUB[0 N 01:20:43:14>01:20:49:13]
The underground economy
is not big today.
SUB[0 N 01:20:51:11>01:20:53:02]
How much do you pay in taxes
every year?
SUB[0 N 01:20:56:24>01:20:58:07]
Is it a lot?
SUB[0 N 01:20:59:03>01:21:02:08]
The exact number,
I can tell you...
SUB[0 N 01:21:02:13>01:21:03:23]
One always remember how much
was it,
SUB[0 N 01:21:03:29>01:21:05:05]
because it's enraging.
SUB[0 N 01:21:05:12>01:21:07:21]
But taxes are so silly
and so diverse,
SUB[0 N 01:21:08:05>01:21:10:03]
but it must be around...
SUB[0 N 01:21:10:09>01:21:16:04]
30 percent of the turnover.
SUB[0 N 01:21:16:24>01:21:18:06]
How much is it in money?
SUB[0 N 01:21:18:18>01:21:24:10]
Around 150 million Reales.
SUB[0 N 01:21:33:29>01:21:36:17]
Have you ever thought
of leaving Brazil?
SUB[0 N 01:21:39:00>01:21:44:05]
No, actually our idea...
SUB[0 N 01:21:44:13>01:21:47:03]
is doing some business abroad,
SUB[0 N 01:21:47:09>01:21:51:17]
as we do in Uruguay today
and we did in the USA...
SUB[0 N 01:21:51:24>01:21:53:12]
some real estate business,
SUB[0 N 01:21:53:19>01:21:58:07]
but ours
is a Brazilian company,
SUB[0 N 01:21:58:19>01:22:03:14]
we have a strong bond.
SUB[0 N 01:22:05:00>01:22:07:12]
We let you eat, thanks a lot.
SUB[0 N 01:22:39:04>01:22:42:26]
These 2, 3...
SUB[0 N 01:22:43:04>01:22:45:03]
or 15 million dollar
apartments...
SUB[0 N 01:22:45:29>01:22:49:29]
have not only a great lobby,
safe elevators,
SUB[0 N 01:22:51:01>01:22:54:05]
a nice swimming pool,
difficult access...
SUB[0 N 01:22:54:17>01:22:55:21]
and a lot of security.
SUB[0 N 01:22:56:15>01:22:58:16]
They have something
that's maybe more important...
SUB[0 N 01:22:58:23>01:23:00:12]
for the people who live here.
SUB[0 N 01:23:01:00>01:23:03:02]
There's no poverty
in this area of Sao Paulo.
SUB[0 N 01:23:07:07>01:23:10:18]
2 million people...
SUB[0 N 01:23:10:24>01:23:12:11]
live in favelas
in this city.
SUB[0 N 01:23:12:19>01:23:15:18]
Look, you can't see the favelas
from here.
SUB[0 N 01:23:19:02>01:23:21:25]
You can see the highways,
the Rush Hour,
SUB[0 N 01:23:22:01>01:23:25:21]
the people returning home
or getting out of their jobs,
SUB[0 N 01:23:27:24>01:23:29:07]
the downtown buildings...
SUB[0 N 01:23:32:26>01:23:36:08]
and the most BRIC side
of the city.
SUB[0 N 01:23:41:09>01:23:43:15]
The favelas are that way,
behind this building,
SUB[0 N 01:23:44:02>01:23:48:11]
in what they call
the periphery, far from here.
SUB[0 I 01:24:02:10>01:24:05:07]
On the other side of the cleft,
in Capao Redondo,
SUB[0 I 01:24:05:20>01:24:07:17]
the biggest favela
in Sao Paulo,
SUB[0 I 01:24:08:03>01:24:09:24]
Marcos was waiting for me.
SUB[0 I 01:24:34:04>01:24:36:12]
Capao Redondo is the biggest
favela in Sao Paulo,
SUB[0 I 01:24:37:14>01:24:39:29]
its diameter
is over 50 kilometers wide,
SUB[0 I 01:24:40:20>01:24:42:25]
more than you can contemplate
from here.
SUB[0 I 01:24:50:07>01:24:52:26]
Many of the 2.5 million
Paulistas...
SUB[0 I 01:24:53:04>01:24:55:17]
who live in favelas
live here.
SUB[0 N 01:25:12:18>01:25:15:08]
-Marcos, how are you?
-Fine.
SUB[0 N 01:25:15:21>01:25:18:20]
-Let's see the area, huh?
-Let's go.
SUB[0 I 01:25:25:07>01:25:28:10]
Marcos, "El Japo", photography
student,
SUB[0 I 01:25:29:04>01:25:30:13]
was born in Capao.
SUB[0 I 01:25:30:29>01:25:32:02]
Marcos is our guide,
SUB[0 I 01:25:32:13>01:25:34:24]
he talked with the leaders
of the favela...
SUB[0 I 01:25:34:29>01:25:36:24]
so we could film inside it.
SUB[0 I 01:25:37:08>01:25:40:07]
Suddenly Marcos looked
at something, got nervous,
SUB[0 I 01:25:40:14>01:25:42:00]
and asked us to put down...
SUB[0 I 01:25:42:18>01:25:44:07]
and turn off the camera.
SUB[0 I 01:25:44:16>01:25:46:05]
Those were places were drugs
were sold...
SUB[0 I 01:25:46:14>01:25:49:03]
and there were people
who couldn't be filmed.
SUB[0 N 01:25:50:13>01:25:52:17]
-You were born here.
-Yes, yes.
SUB[0 N 01:25:52:29>01:25:55:01]
I've been here for 25 years.
SUB[0 N 01:25:56:02>01:25:57:11]
-Are you 25?
-Yes.
SUB[0 N 01:25:58:09>01:25:59:09]
When did you start
taking photos?
SUB[0 N 01:26:01:11>01:26:05:10]
I started when I was 19.
SUB[0 N 01:26:05:29>01:26:07:04]
Why did you start?
SUB[0 N 01:26:08:11>01:26:10:03]
I always liked photography,
especially in cinema.
SUB[0 N 01:26:10:26>01:26:13:18]
I studied journalism
at university...
SUB[0 N 01:26:13:24>01:26:16:06]
and with effort I bought
my first camera...
SUB[0 N 01:26:16:20>01:26:17:29]
and I started taking photos.
SUB[0 N 01:26:18:06>01:26:21:02]
What was your first camera?
SUB[0 N 01:26:21:17>01:26:23:10]
I have, from those days...
SUB[0 N 01:26:23:18>01:26:24:27]
Have you got pictures?
SUB[0 N 01:26:25:17>01:26:31:09]
This. I photographed quotidian
things from the neighborhood.
SUB[0 N 01:26:32:18>01:26:34:24]
I took photos in black
and white back then.
SUB[0 N 01:26:35:00>01:26:37:26]
Black and white
is more dramatic, stronger.
SUB[0 N 01:26:38:11>01:26:39:14]
Yes, yes.
SUB[0 N 01:26:39:21>01:26:40:28]
A look like this...
SUB[0 N 01:26:41:04>01:26:44:01]
exists in black and white,
but it gets lost in color.
SUB[0 N 01:26:44:08>01:26:45:15]
You lose a lot of it.
SUB[0 N 01:26:45:21>01:26:47:09]
This is one of the first
I took.
SUB[0 N 01:26:47:21>01:26:49:05]
Nice picture.
SUB[0 N 01:26:50:01>01:26:51:25]
This is the yard of a house...
SUB[0 N 01:26:52:23>01:26:53:27]
that called my attention...
SUB[0 N 01:26:54:03>01:26:56:07]
by the amount of flowers
and colors...
SUB[0 N 01:26:56:15>01:26:57:25]
that there were into that house.
SUB[0 N 01:26:58:02>01:26:59:11]
Have you even wondered what
would have become of you...
SUB[0 N 01:26:59:17>01:27:01:09]
if you'd been born in a place
like this, for example...
SUB[0 N 01:27:01:16>01:27:02:26]
instead of having been born
here?
SUB[0 N 01:27:03:03>01:27:04:18]
There's a great difference...
SUB[0 N 01:27:04:25>01:27:10:05]
'cause I think everything
is very organized there.
SUB[0 N 01:27:10:12>01:27:13:21]
People pay attention
to aesthetics,
SUB[0 N 01:27:14:01>01:27:16:16]
to visual things...
SUB[0 N 01:27:16:24>01:27:19:10]
and here that is blurred...
SUB[0 N 01:27:19:15>01:27:20:26]
by the lack of money.
SUB[0 N 01:27:21:00>01:27:23:26]
There are other urgencies,
right?
SUB[0 N 01:27:24:29>01:27:29:25]
But you find beauty here
through your pictures.
SUB[0 N 01:27:30:04>01:27:33:08]
I have a photo of a landscape
near here,
SUB[0 N 01:27:33:21>01:27:35:01]
we're here.
SUB[0 N 01:27:35:29>01:27:40:08]
Here I think that black
and white...
SUB[0 N 01:27:40:15>01:27:43:11]
make things uniform
and beautiful.
SUB[0 N 01:27:43:17>01:27:45:04]
If it was colorful it wouldn't
be so nice,
SUB[0 N 01:27:45:10>01:27:46:25]
but it's a pretty landscape.
SUB[0 N 01:27:47:08>01:27:48:17]
This?
SUB[0 N 01:27:48:25>01:27:51:06]
One day I heard a noise...
SUB[0 N 01:27:51:17>01:27:54:13]
and went to see what happened,
and I saw it was a car burning,
SUB[0 N 01:27:54:19>01:27:57:10]
so I looked for my camera
and took a picture.
SUB[0 N 01:27:57:16>01:27:59:05]
Is this a violent place?
SUB[0 N 01:27:59:12>01:28:01:28]
It used to be, but not anymore.
SUB[0 N 01:28:02:07>01:28:07:04]
In the 90s there were
many murder stories.
SUB[0 N 01:28:07:14>01:28:11:07]
Dead bodies appeared twice
at my door.
SUB[0 N 01:28:11:26>01:28:13:27]
I woke up to go to school,
I was very little,
SUB[0 N 01:28:14:03>01:28:17:21]
I was 10 years old,
I opened the door...
SUB[0 N 01:28:17:26>01:28:21:07]
and I saw a dead body
10 meters away.
SUB[0 N 01:28:21:13>01:28:24:28]
These images
marked my childhood,
SUB[0 N 01:28:25:05>01:28:27:14]
I think they still do.
SUB[0 N 01:28:27:20>01:28:29:14]
I think that my interest...
SUB[0 N 01:28:29:20>01:28:32:14]
in trying to do something here
comes from that too.
SUB[0 N 01:28:32:19>01:28:36:07]
Being exposed to violence
at an early age...
SUB[0 N 01:28:36:14>01:28:38:22]
marks you a lot.
SUB[0 N 01:28:38:29>01:28:40:14]
Some people...
SUB[0 N 01:28:40:21>01:28:43:17]
have violence within them
because of this,
SUB[0 N 01:28:43:24>01:28:46:14]
but some other don't.
SUB[0 N 01:28:47:08>01:28:49:28]
It's like melancholy,
not sadness,
SUB[0 N 01:28:50:05>01:28:53:23]
the melancholy of knowing
that this may happen somewhere.
SUB[0 N 01:28:53:29>01:28:55:26]
How is Brazil now?
Is it better?
SUB[0 N 01:28:56:26>01:28:59:19]
I think it is, but I also
think that Brazil...
SUB[0 N 01:28:59:25>01:29:02:19]
is setting a course
that may be very dangerous.
SUB[0 N 01:29:02:24>01:29:05:03]
'Cause if there's much money
and a lot of inequality,
SUB[0 N 01:29:05:08>01:29:07:04]
that may cause more violence.
SUB[0 I 01:29:15:17>01:29:17:05]
Between 2003 and 2009,
SUB[0 I 01:29:17:08>01:29:19:05]
26 million people
from the lower class...
SUB[0 I 01:29:19:14>01:29:24:18]
joined the middle class,
they're the new C class.
SUB[0 I 01:29:26:27>01:29:27:29]
The middle class represents...
SUB[0 I 01:29:28:05>01:29:31:16]
49,22 percent
of the total population,
SUB[0 I 01:29:33:12>01:29:34:22]
the lower class
still comprises...
SUB[0 I 01:29:34:28>01:29:37:19]
40 percent
of the total population.
SUB[0 I 01:29:39:05>01:29:40:24]
It is estimated that by 2014...
SUB[0 I 01:29:41:05>01:29:44:13]
poverty will have been reduced
around 70 percent.
SUB[0 N 01:29:55:00>01:29:57:19]
In the BRICs, in the biggest
countries...
SUB[0 N 01:29:57:28>01:30:02:28]
and also in some others there's
a high social mobility.
SUB[0 N 01:30:04:20>01:30:06:09]
Social groups
and social classes...
SUB[0 N 01:30:06:16>01:30:09:08]
that used to be very low,
SUB[0 N 01:30:09:19>01:30:11:29]
very far
from the old middle class,
SUB[0 N 01:30:12:07>01:30:17:10]
are now very similar to it
in terms of consumption.
SUB[0 N 01:30:17:16>01:30:20:08]
They aspire to social mobility,
SUB[0 N 01:30:20:16>01:30:23:17]
they seek further education,
SUB[0 N 01:30:24:22>01:30:27:08]
they start little companies...
SUB[0 N 01:30:28:02>01:30:34:01]
and, in fact,
there is a clear rise...
SUB[0 N 01:30:34:10>01:30:37:16]
of very large social groups.
SUB[0 N 01:30:37:21>01:30:39:12]
Today, what we used to call
C class,
SUB[0 N 01:30:39:25>01:30:41:11]
the new middle class,
SUB[0 N 01:30:41:18>01:30:43:12]
comprises probably 40
or 50 percent...
SUB[0 N 01:30:43:18>01:30:46:24]
of the total population
of Brazil.
SUB[6 N 01:30:47:06>01:30:50:02]
FAVELA PARAISOPOLIS.
SAO PAULO, BRASIL.
SUB[0 N 01:31:03:29>01:31:06:02]
I came here when I was 19,
SUB[0 N 01:31:06:18>01:31:08:02]
there are people
who come from Bahia.
SUB[0 N 01:31:09:01>01:31:10:26]
Most people come
for the same reason,
SUB[0 N 01:31:11:02>01:31:12:14]
they look for a better life.
SUB[0 N 01:31:17:06>01:31:19:08]
When I got here I bought
clothes and shoes...
SUB[0 N 01:31:19:15>01:31:22:09]
and went to see the city.
SUB[0 N 01:31:53:10>01:31:56:04]
I've been living in this house
for 20 years,
SUB[0 N 01:31:56:10>01:31:57:26]
20 years in the same place.
SUB[0 N 01:31:58:04>01:32:00:15]
The house is on the land
I had back then,
SUB[0 N 01:32:00:22>01:32:02:11]
and at first it had just a room
and a kitchen...
SUB[0 N 01:32:02:18>01:32:04:17]
and later I built
everything else.
SUB[0 N 01:32:04:24>01:32:07:00]
Now Luis wants to reform
the front of the house...
SUB[0 N 01:32:07:06>01:32:10:26]
which is very low, so the water
falls here...
SUB[0 N 01:32:11:03>01:32:12:19]
and he wants to continue
building...
SUB[0 N 01:32:12:25>01:32:14:08]
and I get angry...
SUB[0 N 01:32:14:15>01:32:15:24]
'cause the girls grew...
SUB[0 N 01:32:16:00>01:32:17:17]
among the sand and the cement.
SUB[0 N 01:32:19:19>01:32:22:01]
This is my little girl
Andresa...
SUB[0 N 01:32:23:08>01:32:25:19]
and that one's Tamara,
who is 17.
SUB[0 N 01:32:27:19>01:32:32:03]
Here there was just a fence,
SUB[0 N 01:32:32:12>01:32:35:07]
it was only a yard, there
was no living room, nothing.
SUB[0 N 01:32:35:20>01:32:38:09]
I want to stay here, I like it.
I wouldn’t leave...
SUB[0 N 01:32:38:15>01:32:40:03]
even if I won the lottery.
SUB[0 N 01:32:43:02>01:32:46:01]
Here, there's everything
I need to live.
SUB[0 I 01:32:47:21>01:32:49:25]
Valdices is one
of the 26 million people...
SUB[0 I 01:32:50:01>01:32:52:27]
who joined the middle class.
SUB[0 I 01:32:54:06>01:32:56:28]
She's got three daughters.
One studies nursing,
SUB[0 I 01:32:57:19>01:33:00:17]
another one is a pedagogue,
and she could fulfill...
SUB[0 I 01:33:00:23>01:33:04:20]
her little daughter's dream:
running her own hairdresser's.
SUB[6 N 01:33:44:15>01:33:47:14]
They dream of being part
of the internal market,
SUB[6 N 01:33:47:20>01:33:49:17]
of the Brazilian common market,
SUB[6 N 01:33:49:23>01:33:51:13]
of being part of that culture,
SUB[0 N 01:33:51:26>01:33:54:23]
of having a better education:
SUB[0 N 01:33:55:07>01:33:57:15]
it's a mobility process.
SUB[0 N 01:33:57:22>01:34:01:08]
There were many people
who were marginalized,
SUB[0 N 01:34:01:13>01:34:04:27]
who were on the margins,
a bit passively,
SUB[0 N 01:34:05:03>01:34:08:19]
with regard to that goods
and services,
SUB[0 N 01:34:08:25>01:34:11:19]
because they thought
they were unattainable,
SUB[0 N 01:34:12:08>01:34:15:03]
but they suddenly realized
they were attainable,
SUB[0 N 01:34:15:17>01:34:16:28]
that they can be acquired...
SUB[0 N 01:34:17:04>01:34:18:26]
by anyone with a stable job
and a stable income.
SUB[0 N 01:34:19:04>01:34:22:07]
They can be acquired by anyone.
SUB[0 I 01:34:25:28>01:34:27:21]
The C class started consuming,
SUB[0 I 01:34:29:16>01:34:31:09]
one out of three people
have a bank account,
SUB[0 I 01:34:32:18>01:34:34:27]
one out of four
have a credit card...
SUB[0 I 01:34:35:05>01:34:37:29]
and one out of five
have a computer.
SUB[0 I 01:34:39:03>01:34:41:03]
They buy cars,
they ask for credits...
SUB[0 I 01:34:42:01>01:34:44:01]
and they wait for the ultimate
TV set.
SUB[6 N 01:34:57:11>01:34:58:27]
The periphery
consumes everything:
SUB[6 N 01:34:59:05>01:35:02:08]
Casas Bahía, Magazine Luisa,
SUB[6 N 01:35:02:15>01:35:04:01]
Marabraz are all millionaires...
SUB[0 N 01:35:04:07>01:35:06:11]
thanks to the periphery,
who consumes their products.
SUB[0 N 01:35:06:17>01:35:07:23]
Wealthy people don't go
to Casas Bahía...
SUB[0 N 01:35:07:26>01:35:09:01]
to buy something in twenty
installments.
SUB[0 N 01:35:09:08>01:35:13:01]
Extra, the Sonda Supermarket,
SUB[0 N 01:35:13:07>01:35:15:20]
all of them got rich
thanks to the periphery.
SUB[0 N 01:35:15:26>01:35:20:09]
Then, you get the illusion
that it's a fairer country.
SUB[0 N 01:35:20:16>01:35:24:13]
I don't see
the positive result,
SUB[0 N 01:35:24:20>01:35:27:00]
I don't see the changes
in children,
SUB[0 N 01:35:27:06>01:35:28:22]
I don't see things evolving.
SUB[0 N 01:35:28:28>01:35:31:24]
I know the subject
and I think it's hard,
SUB[0 N 01:35:32:01>01:35:33:22]
'cause when you're into it...
SUB[0 N 01:35:33:27>01:35:35:08]
you see where the problem is.
SUB[0 N 01:35:35:14>01:35:37:03]
We're not giving kids
the chance...
SUB[0 N 01:35:37:08>01:35:38:20]
of having a better school,
a better future.
SUB[0 N 01:35:39:00>01:35:40:27]
You can hide things by paying
a car in installments,
SUB[0 N 01:35:41:02>01:35:43:07]
by buying a 1000 Reales
cell phone...
SUB[0 N 01:35:43:13>01:35:45:17]
and everybody's got access
to that rubbish,
SUB[0 N 01:35:45:24>01:35:48:03]
but they don't have access
to a better life.
SUB[0 N 01:35:49:17>01:35:51:14]
Typist, ghetto writer,
SUB[0 N 01:35:51:21>01:35:54:16]
self-esteem seeker
and generator of modern chaos.
SUB[0 N 01:35:54:23>01:35:57:24]
Literary terrorist
with a rifle in hand,
SUB[0 N 01:35:58:01>01:35:59:25]
nuclear weapon, information.
SUB[0 N 01:36:00:04>01:36:01:27]
Dissension
at the heart of the people.
SUB[0 N 01:36:02:09>01:36:04:04]
Thirst of having
a pistol in my hand,
SUB[0 N 01:36:04:11>01:36:06:06]
Martin Luther King
died in vain.
SUB[0 N 01:36:06:12>01:36:09:23]
I'll say what I think, there
are things I don't understand.
SUB[0 N 01:36:10:00>01:36:11:27]
Putting in the world,
the pornographic world,
SUB[0 N 01:36:12:03>01:36:14:05]
show me the nudity
of your color,
SUB[0 N 01:36:14:10>01:36:17:04]
"Love the neighborhood"
became a bumper slogan.
SUB[0 N 01:36:17:10>01:36:19:29]
Ideology is in crisis
for the one who's in shock.
SUB[0 N 01:36:20:07>01:36:22:00]
Light a fire in the world
to bother,
SUB[0 N 01:36:22:05>01:36:24:12]
light a fire in the churches
to watch them burn.
SUB[0 N 01:36:24:17>01:36:26:17]
The weeping people cries pain.
SUB[0 N 01:36:26:23>01:36:29:01]
The Messenger of Deceit
runs for Senator.
SUB[0 N 01:36:29:08>01:36:31:03]
The weeping people cries pain.
SUB[0 N 01:36:31:10>01:36:33:18]
The Messenger of Deceit
runs for Senator.
SUB[0 N 01:36:33:24>01:36:35:21]
But my chest is a zombie
and Marighella's on my mind.
SUB[0 N 01:36:35:28>01:36:37:01]
My neighborhood, the favela,
is in my fist.
SUB[0 N 01:36:37:08>01:36:39:12]
Years of vain resentment,
stop laughing at us.
SUB[0 N 01:36:39:24>01:36:41:02]
God forgives, but I don't.
SUB[0 N 01:36:41:08>01:36:42:15]
A ship is easy to burn,
SUB[0 N 01:36:42:21>01:36:44:06]
everything you want to be
is in the videoclip,
SUB[0 N 01:36:44:11>01:36:48:15]
but solitude's on the streets,
and the truth is a lie.
SUB[0 N 01:36:48:21>01:36:51:22]
Give me ten,
everybody's a puppet,
SUB[0 N 01:36:51:27>01:36:55:25]
but I already see the strings.
SUB[0 I 01:37:07:02>01:37:08:03]
The favelas of Sao Paulo...
SUB[0 I 01:37:08:08>01:37:10:11]
are controlled by the PCC,
SUB[0 I 01:37:11:08>01:37:13:05]
the "Primer Comando
de Capital,"
SUB[0 I 01:37:14:04>01:37:17:09]
a prisoners' brotherhood
that emerged in the 90s.
SUB[0 I 01:37:19:00>01:37:23:02]
The PCC became Brazil's
biggest criminal organization.
SUB[0 I 01:37:26:01>01:37:29:04]
Inside the favelas nobody
talks about the PCC,
SUB[0 I 01:37:31:03>01:37:34:08]
not even the police.
They fear retaliation.
SUB[0 I 01:37:35:29>01:37:37:26]
And when I ask
what the State does,
SUB[0 I 01:37:38:02>01:37:41:17]
they say that it does nothing.
It negotiates.
SUB[0 I 01:37:42:27>01:37:45:23]
Now there is a truce,
it's rubbish,
SUB[0 I 01:37:45:28>01:37:47:16]
but nobody dies.
SUB[0 I 01:37:47:24>01:37:52:27]
Nobody dies without
authorization, they say.
SUB[0 N 01:37:53:14>01:37:55:08]
One thing is having a guy
running after you,
SUB[0 N 01:37:55:14>01:37:56:20]
trying to kill you,
SUB[6 N 01:37:56:27>01:37:59:13]
and another thing is the guy
running after you...
SUB[6 N 01:37:59:20>01:38:02:06]
and then you going to talk
to him.
SUB[6 N 01:38:02:12>01:38:04:02]
After that, you have to go
to several meetings...
SUB[0 N 01:38:04:06>01:38:05:23]
to see if you finally die
or not.
SUB[0 N 01:38:06:09>01:38:07:29]
The form of oppression
changed,
SUB[0 N 01:38:08:05>01:38:09:23]
but the violence is the same.
SUB[0 N 01:38:10:00>01:38:12:04]
The crime set the rules,
SUB[0 N 01:38:12:12>01:38:14:14]
the crime got to where
the State couldn't...
SUB[0 N 01:38:14:20>01:38:16:20]
and created the rules
and a culture.
SUB[0 N 01:38:16:26>01:38:18:22]
We organized cultural events
here...
SUB[0 N 01:38:18:28>01:38:20:02]
and we were swept to the side,
SUB[0 N 01:38:20:09>01:38:22:12]
so we have
to ask for permission...
SUB[0 N 01:38:22:18>01:38:24:07]
here and there
to throw a party,
SUB[0 N 01:38:24:12>01:38:26:14]
to make an event, to publish
a book, understand?
SUB[0 N 01:38:26:20>01:38:29:12]
The guys dominate all,
the government gave up.
SUB[0 N 01:38:29:20>01:38:31:07]
When there was
an internal fight in the PCC...
SUB[0 N 01:38:31:13>01:38:33:12]
the government gave them...
SUB[0 N 01:38:33:18>01:38:35:14]
the State of Sao Paulo
and all got fixed.
SUB[0 N 01:38:37:03>01:38:39:06]
Do you think that living here
is like taking a position?
SUB[0 N 01:38:39:13>01:38:42:03]
The person who studied,
SUB[0 N 01:38:42:09>01:38:46:05]
who went to university,
SUB[0 N 01:38:46:11>01:38:48:07]
becomes a model, I think,
SUB[0 N 01:38:48:13>01:38:50:05]
especially for the youngsters.
SUB[0 N 01:38:50:11>01:38:52:04]
What people see here...
SUB[0 N 01:38:52:11>01:38:53:25]
is that drug-selling points...
SUB[0 N 01:38:54:00>01:38:55:12]
are easier to find
than libraries.
SUB[0 N 01:38:55:19>01:38:58:09]
But not only that.
The question is:
SUB[0 N 01:38:58:14>01:39:00:05]
does the State exist here?
SUB[0 N 01:39:01:15>01:39:03:04]
It exists,
basically as an oppressor.
SUB[0 N 01:39:03:10>01:39:04:12]
Police is the State here.
SUB[0 N 01:39:04:18>01:39:05:22]
-Just that?
-I think so.
SUB[0 N 01:39:05:26>01:39:09:06]
The police is involved,
there's a mix.
SUB[0 N 01:39:09:11>01:39:10:25]
Sao Paulo is the only place
in the world...
SUB[0 N 01:39:11:01>01:39:12:14]
where the crime is glamorous.
SUB[0 N 01:39:12:20>01:39:15:04]
The crime is glamorous,
they're not armed,
SUB[0 N 01:39:15:08>01:39:17:08]
they just have cell phones,
like businessmen.
SUB[0 N 01:39:17:15>01:39:20:20]
In Río the guys carry guns,
are baretorsoed,
SUB[0 N 01:39:20:27>01:39:22:03]
tattooed, they wear
gold chains.
SUB[0 N 01:39:22:09>01:39:24:03]
They bring down helicopters.
SUB[0 N 01:39:24:10>01:39:25:21]
Here in Sao Paulo, what for?
SUB[0 N 01:39:25:28>01:39:28:21]
Everything goes well,
everybody earns money,
SUB[0 N 01:39:28:27>01:39:30:28]
the police, the criminals,
the government,
SUB[0 N 01:39:31:03>01:39:32:11]
so let it work.
SUB[0 N 01:39:32:16>01:39:33:27]
It's business, isn't it?
SUB[0 I 01:39:36:23>01:39:38:05]
The problem
is drug trafficking,
SUB[0 I 01:39:38:11>01:39:41:03]
the power that talks
with the State as an equal.
SUB[0 I 01:39:42:08>01:39:43:22]
Sometime ago an interview
was published on the Internet,
SUB[0 I 01:39:43:28>01:39:46:11]
an interview
with Marcos Camacho,
SUB[0 I 01:39:46:17>01:39:49:03]
Marcola, the current leader
of the PCC,
SUB[0 I 01:39:50:20>01:39:53:12]
Then they said it was a hoax,
that a journalist invented it.
SUB[0 I 01:39:54:16>01:39:57:06]
It was truly Marcola
or someone else in disguise?
SUB[0 I 01:39:58:17>01:39:59:23]
It doesn't matter.
SUB[0 I 01:40:01:07>01:40:03:22]
Whoever was it, he knew
what he was talking about.
SUB[0 I 01:40:06:06>01:40:10:04]
The interview says:
"I am a sign of new times.
SUB[0 I 01:40:11:09>01:40:13:04]
I was poor and invisible.
SUB[0 I 01:40:13:27>01:40:15:23]
You didn't look at me
even once for decades.
SUB[0 I 01:40:16:15>01:40:17:18]
And in the old days...
SUB[0 I 01:40:17:23>01:40:19:11]
it was easy to fix
the problem of misery.
SUB[0 I 01:40:20:20>01:40:25:06]
Now we are rich with
the multinational of cocaine.
SUB[0 I 01:40:26:04>01:40:28:23]
And you are dying of fear.
SUB[0 I 01:40:31:01>01:40:32:24]
We're suicide bombers,
SUB[0 I 01:40:34:14>01:40:37:23]
There are 100.000
suicide bombers in the favelas.
SUB[0 I 01:40:39:12>01:40:42:10]
We are the centre
of the Insoluble itself.
SUB[0 I 01:40:44:02>01:40:46:02]
You are the good
and I am the bad and,
SUB[0 I 01:40:46:16>01:40:49:00]
in between,
the frontier of death,
SUB[0 I 01:40:49:03>01:40:51:05]
the only frontier.
SUB[0 I 01:40:52:22>01:40:55:20]
Death for you
is a Christian drama.
SUB[0 I 01:40:55:28>01:40:58:20]
In a bed, a heart attack...
SUB[0 I 01:41:00:19>01:41:02:17]
Death for us is daily meat,
SUB[0 I 01:41:02:24>01:41:05:25]
dumped in a ravine.
SUB[0 I 01:41:07:17>01:41:10:13]
The post-misery generates
a new culture of killing,
SUB[0 I 01:41:11:15>01:41:16:09]
aided by technology,
satellites, cell phones,
SUB[0 I 01:41:16:29>01:41:18:03]
the internet, modern weapons.
SUB[0 I 01:41:18:19>01:41:21:26]
It is shit with chips,
with megabytes.
SUB[0 I 01:41:23:10>01:41:27:09]
My commandos are a mutation
of the social being,
SUB[0 I 01:41:28:02>01:41:31:04]
they are the fungus
of a great big dirty mistake.
SUB[0 I 01:41:33:20>01:41:35:13]
We are not afraid of death;
SUB[0 I 01:41:35:18>01:41:37:03]
you are dying of fright.
SUB[0 I 01:41:38:29>01:41:43:12]
We are well armed;
you have 38's.
SUB[0 I 01:41:45:06>01:41:49:11]
We are on the attack;
you are defending.
SUB[0 I 01:41:50:25>01:41:52:29]
You have a mania for humanism.
SUB[0 I 01:41:54:10>01:41:56:20]
We are cruel and without pity.
SUB[0 I 01:41:58:14>01:42:01:04]
You transform us
into superstars of crime.
SUB[0 I 01:42:03:06>01:42:04:25]
We make clowns out of you.
SUB[0 I 01:42:05:29>01:42:07:09]
The population
of the favelas...
SUB[0 I 01:42:07:15>01:42:10:08]
help us, out of fear or love.
SUB[0 I 01:42:11:11>01:42:12:23]
You are hated.
SUB[0 I 01:42:14:13>01:42:17:27]
You are regional, provincial.
SUB[0 I 01:42:18:29>01:42:20:11]
We are global.
SUB[0 I 01:42:21:11>01:42:24:05]
Our arms and products
come from outside the country.
SUB[0 I 01:42:25:05>01:42:26:25]
We don't forget you,
SUB[0 I 01:42:27:03>01:42:29:13]
you are our customers.
SUB[0 I 01:42:30:15>01:42:31:16]
You forget us...
SUB[0 I 01:42:31:23>01:42:35:08]
even in the midst
of a surfeit of violence."
SUB[0 N 01:42:44:19>01:42:47:22]
Does inequality
generate resentment?
SUB[0 N 01:42:48:12>01:42:49:13]
Of course.
SUB[0 N 01:42:49:13>01:42:50:20]
Sometimes,
SUB[0 N 01:42:50:27>01:42:55:19]
inequality enraged me.
SUB[0 N 01:42:56:10>01:42:58:03]
Some students said...
SUB[0 N 01:42:58:08>01:42:59:25]
that their parents
would buy a Porsche...
SUB[0 N 01:43:00:04>01:43:03:19]
and I came back here
and I saw my friends dying.
SUB[0 N 01:43:03:28>01:43:06:07]
I think that is absurd.
SUB[0 N 01:43:06:13>01:43:09:10]
I had moments of rage,
of anger.
SUB[0 N 01:43:09:15>01:43:12:00]
I never knew
how to express that,
SUB[0 N 01:43:12:07>01:43:15:07]
I always kept it inside
and that made me suffer.
SUB[0 N 01:43:15:13>01:43:18:25]
I think it was then
when I said:
SUB[0 N 01:43:19:01>01:43:21:04]
"What do I want from life?"
SUB[0 N 01:43:21:15>01:43:24:01]
"Will I pretend
that this doesn't exist...
SUB[0 N 01:43:24:07>01:43:25:22]
and try to make money?
SUB[0 N 01:43:25:29>01:43:28:04]
Or can I try to do something,
SUB[0 N 01:43:28:10>01:43:30:10]
not to forget
where I came from...
SUB[0 N 01:43:30:10>01:43:32:00]
and try to get rich
and help my people?"
SUB[0 N 01:43:32:03>01:43:34:10]
There is Mr. Antonio,
SUB[0 N 01:43:34:16>01:43:37:06]
who wakes up at 5 AM...
SUB[0 N 01:43:37:11>01:43:38:24]
and rides the bus...
SUB[0 N 01:43:38:29>01:43:40:02]
to get to Avenida Paulista...
SUB[0 N 01:43:40:08>01:43:41:22]
at 7:30 to serve coffee.
SUB[0 N 01:43:41:27>01:43:45:20]
There is Mrs. María, who makes
steaks on Avenida Paulista...
SUB[0 N 01:43:45:25>01:43:47:22]
and then comes homes
and doesn't even have eggs.
SUB[0 N 01:43:47:29>01:43:49:06]
There's a teacher next door...
SUB[0 N 01:43:49:12>01:43:52:21]
who teaches at a private school
in Mackenzie...
SUB[0 N 01:43:52:27>01:43:56:17]
and whose child didn't learn
how to read at school.
SUB[0 N 01:43:56:24>01:43:58:15]
There are many superheroes
who work every day...
SUB[0 N 01:43:58:20>01:44:00:25]
and don't give up,
and don't wish bad to anyone...
SUB[0 N 01:44:01:01>01:44:03:00]
and try to help other people.
SUB[0 N 01:44:03:05>01:44:04:08]
So, there are
a lot of valuable people...
SUB[0 N 01:44:04:15>01:44:06:25]
that are worth more
than a thousand superheroes.
SUB[0 N 01:44:07:01>01:44:08:27]
Every kid who,
instead of stealing,
SUB[0 N 01:44:09:03>01:44:10:14]
is at a traffic light...
SUB[0 N 01:44:10:20>01:44:12:24]
doing some art, or playing,
SUB[0 N 01:44:12:29>01:44:14:02]
is a superhero.
SUB[0 N 01:44:14:09>01:44:15:21]
Is a person who's surviving
to everyday life.
SUB[0 N 01:44:20:17>01:44:24:02]
It's my war, and I'll fight it
for my daughters.
SUB[0 N 01:44:24:08>01:44:26:24]
I think they're a good reason
to fight.
SUB[0 N 01:44:28:24>01:44:30:23]
That's why I want them
to study,
SUB[0 N 01:44:30:28>01:44:35:28]
so they have an easier,
better life.
SUB[0 N 01:44:36:03>01:44:38:18]
I'm very proud of my life.
SUB[0 N 01:44:39:05>01:44:43:00]
Yes, I'm proud of my life.
SUB[0 N 01:44:44:18>01:44:48:10]
My mom is there,
and if she needs something...
SUB[0 N 01:44:48:16>01:44:53:10]
sometimes I help her,
or I buy my own bus ticket.
SUB[0 N 01:44:54:09>01:44:58:00]
Sometimes I'm able to help
my brothers somehow...
SUB[0 N 01:44:58:05>01:45:01:06]
and help people too.
SUB[0 N 01:45:01:24>01:45:03:08]
I'd help many people
if I could,
SUB[0 N 01:45:03:14>01:45:04:22]
but I can't.
SUB[0 N 01:45:05:17>01:45:07:05]
The hope is in every kid
that is born,
SUB[0 N 01:45:07:12>01:45:09:26]
that still studies,
that looks for well-being.
SUB[0 N 01:45:10:03>01:45:12:12]
In every girl who wants to go
to university,
SUB[0 N 01:45:12:18>01:45:14:02]
who wants to progress.
SUB[0 N 01:45:14:13>01:45:17:22]
There's still a lot of hope,
I believe in hope.
SUB[0 I 01:45:20:19>01:45:23:13]
There are no shots in Capao
Redondo for the time being,
SUB[0 I 01:45:24:18>01:45:26:06]
until the agreement
becomes a bad business...
SUB[0 I 01:45:26:25>01:45:30:19]
for any of the parties
and death returns.
SUB[0 I 01:45:32:13>01:45:33:14]
The drug traffickers
sell in peace...
SUB[0 I 01:45:33:22>01:45:35:12]
and the State collects
the taxes regularly:
SUB[0 I 01:45:35:18>01:45:39:10]
this is what
we call civilization.
SUB[0 I 01:45:41:17>01:45:43:20]
Everyone sleeps...
SUB[0 I 01:45:43:23>01:45:45:20]
and dreams of the World Cup
and the Olympics.
SUB[0 I 01:45:47:07>01:45:49:26]
The prostitutes
and the millionaires,
SUB[0 I 01:45:49:29>01:45:51:26]
the drug dealers
and the politicians,
SUB[0 I 01:45:52:26>01:45:54:00]
the coconut water vendors...
SUB[0 I 01:45:54:06>01:45:56:02]
and the condo builders...
SUB[0 I 01:45:56:19>01:46:01:03]
wait for the future to come.
That's their strength.
SUB[0 I 01:46:44:01>01:46:47:19]
I leave Sao Paulo, I set off
for Rio, the Amazon.
SUB[0 I 01:46:49:22>01:46:54:28]
The deep Brazil waits for me,
the sea and the jungle.