Session #8

Sunday, May 21, 1995 (Revised)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Debbie (Catherine), Christie

(Oliver), Laszlo (John), Bill (Kasha), Julie (Peter), Ron (Olivia), and a new
participant, Aram. (Essence name unknown)

Note: To date, our attempts to record sessions have been unsuccessful. Ron was
experimenting with a camcorder and a condenser microphone in this session, which
was successful. We were not actually videotaping, as per Mary’s request; but Ron
secretly flipped a button, and voila! Our first videotape!

Elias “arrives” at 6:23 PM. (“Time” was 45 seconds)

ELIAS: Good evening. (Pause) Welcome back to John! (Smiling) We will welcome Ron,
and a new face. This is ... who?

VICKI: This is Aram. This is my son. (Elias smiles at Aram)

ELIAS: At our last meeting, we were focusing on the subject of your beliefs. This
is of extreme importance. We will be addressing this continuing subject now. There
was some confusion as to some concepts. First, we will address the subject of how
intricate your beliefs are to each of you. Also, we will address how your beliefs
are not always recognized by your individual selves.

You have a basic belief in the duplicity of your physical selves. This is
incorrect. You have created a division of your physical focus and your essence for
a purpose. This does not incorporate any deceitfulness of nature. It is only a
separation and a misunderstanding in your focus. You have created this with the
purpose of experiencing in your physical focus. I have explained that you have
created this existence for its experience. This is its only purpose. You
disconnect yourselves so far from your essence that you forget what you really
possess!

You are all a part of nature. This is a difficult concept for you. In this focus,
you see yourselves as separate beings, from each other and from nature. This is
incorrect. You have created nature, and are a part of it. I will attempt to give
you a small example.

Imagine yourself in a field, sitting in green grass. In front of you is a single

flower. You do not separate this flower, in its present state, from nature. Now,
imagine you, on earth; this flower, you deposit it into a small pot. Do you now
disconnect the flower with nature? No, you do not. Does the flower see itself
differently, now that it is not connected directly with the earth? No, it does
not. It sees its stem and leaves and flower head as the same. It does not
differentiate. It does not disconnect from nature. You also are a part of nature.
You view yourselves as disconnected, though. Your feet are not planted into the
earth; therefore you view yourselves as separate from it. This is incorrect. A
fragment of your essence is focused in a physical reality, but other parts or
fragments are focused in nature in other areas. Part of your collective focus
spins your planets. Part of your collective essences create your weather, and your
tides, and the growing of all things. You do not see these parts of your essence,
so you do not believe they exist.

There was a reason you have created this separation of essence and physical focus
originally. It is difficult to truly experience anything if you have prior
knowledge of it. In your essence state, you have knowledge of all these things,
obviously because you have created them! In order to experience in a physical
focus, you chose to forget your essence. This, for a “time”, in your terms,
(smiling, and we all laugh) served its purpose. It allowed you to experience in
all full measure of a physical focus. Many individuals are still quite focused in
this situation.

You all assembled here have come to a point where this is not completely
necessary. You are completing your circles, as I have stated before. This does not
mean you will end your physical focus! It merely means you will experience a
fuller focus, if you wish. (Pause)

You have the ability to experience physical things, and simultaneously be aware of
things of your essence. I have stated before that the only division between your
essence and this fragmented focus of it is your fear, at this point.

We will also speak in regards to your beliefs; how insidious they may be, and also
how you individually, in every day of your lives, reinforce your divisions. In
your own simple language, continuously, you invalidate yourselves! In doing this,
you reinforce an unnecessary division. When you speak with each other, you
apologize for your feelings! (Laughter) You qualify your statements to one
another. You feel an unworthiness of self. This is incorrect. The only purpose
this serves is to create confusion and discomfort within yourself.

Many things in your physical focus are automatically and artfully controlled by
your essence. Your physical bodies, I have explained, are direct expressions of
your essence. These bodies are not, underline not, only vessels, as you refer to
them! They are a creative, artful expression of your essence. It has the ability
to create the functioning of every movement, of every cell, of every particle of
your bodies.

When you are sitting in a room, and suddenly have an urge to move to another room
of your house, you have a thought that motivates you. You do not think of all of
the engineering factors that contribute to the accomplishment of this small act.
You do not think of how you are breathing, or how your blood circulates. You do
not consider, first, each movement of each muscle to move your body. Your body,
nonetheless, moves! Every living cell and particle contained in it is connected,
and in communication with your essence. This is where it receives its direction.

Your scientists, even now in your great technological age, do not understand the
genius workings of your brains. Every molecule of your physical expression is a
conscious work of art. In this way, you are not divorced from your essence. You
simply do not remember your connection.

In another sense, you believe yourselves to be separate and disconnected from the
universe. You see yourselves as a “being” walking around, not as a gas cloud
floating through space. This cloud is no more connected with the universe than
yourself. It is also no less connected.

In words and philosophy, you accept concepts of believing you are connected to
what you term God, but in reality, you do not believe this connection. You feel
you have learned and studied much. Therefore, you believe yourselves to be
“enlightened”. You see yourselves, in conceptual terms, as being creators, and
part of The Creating Universal One And Whole. In reality, unlike your concepts,
you do not believe this to be true! You demonstrate this continuously. How can you
believe yourselves to be connected with such an immense concept, when you cannot
even connect yourselves to yourselves? (Laughter) You do not even connect with
your own essence! You do not acknowledge connections, even in your own physical
focus!
Your emotions are an integral part of your physical focus. They are also a direct
expression, through this physical focus, of your essence. You disconnect
yourselves from such basic elements as even your emotions! You do not trust them.
Therefore, you “turn them off”, (laughter) and do not allow yourselves to feel
them. You do not trust your own physical thoughts. Therefore, you “turn them off”
also! If you cannot connect with your physical expressed focus, how can you expect
to truly believe in anything greater?

This is what we will focus on together. I have expressed to you that your essence
will not harm you, if you trust it. There is no evil or negative in it. It is part
of The Creating Universal One And Whole. You are part of this. In this respect,
there is no thing to fear from it.

I understand these are difficult issues with you all. In our speaking with you,
you may conceptually and intellectually accept what I may say to you. Applying
these concepts in your reality is quite different! (Pause, smiling)

We have been aware of uncomfortable emotions experienced recently. In this, we

will direct a brief message to you.

Emotions or feelings are an expression of your essence. They are an experience.

You create them more difficultly than is necessary. You confuse yourselves. Your
intellect was created to interpret outside stimulation. It has been created to
help in your understanding of your experiences and creations. It was not created
to evaluate other functions that are basic to your essence. Your feelings are
basic to your essence. Where you create conflict and unnecessary discomfort is
when you allow the intellect to interfere with natural processes of impulses and
emotion. You take two basic elements of your essence, and pit them at odds with
each other. In doing this, you create confusion and conflict. Your emotions are
there for a purpose. You are a social species. Your emotions are your connections.
Because you allow your intellect to question them and interfere with them, you
create much pain within yourselves. This is unnecessary.

I have also stated that understanding is very important; not only understanding of
your own selves, but of all who interact with you. But first, you must focus on
yourselves. You can not connect with another, truly, until you connect with
yourselves. (Long pause, during which Elias takes a drink)

We will discontinue for a moment, to interact with any questions of this present
focus. (Another long pause) You are all of tremendous understanding! (We all crack
up)

LASZLO: You must have heard me yesterday. I was up with the wind, and the two
kids, and exactly these were my questions that you answered. So I can’t ask them
again, I guess!

ELIAS: We were aware of your non-presence in our last meeting. I am, in one
respect, in contact with each of you, always. This concept is difficult for you to
understand. There is only a portion of my essence focused with you, but it is
quite aware. In this same regard, your essences, as I stated before, are no less,
or less creative, or less able to be focused in many areas simultaneously.

LASZLO: Could I ask a simpler question? I have a personal question about my two
youngest children, Matthew and Mickey. There especially seems to be some kind of
extra special connection with the youngest one; my Mattie; and since I read what
went on last week, I was wondering ... ELIAS: You are correct in assuming that
this creation is connected from your essence. We spoke briefly of essence
fragments before. This subject is extremely complicated. There are many
expressions of it.

You, as a creating essence, possess the ability to fragment. In this, you create
other essences. They become independent of your essence. This does not always
happen, but it can. Your baby was an essence fragment in a previous focus time of
yours, in the same way that Mattie is currently an essence fragment of Elizabeth,
but very independent of her essence. In a future focus, as you term it, Mattie
will be born into another physical focus. In this, she will also be connected with
Elizabeth, but in a simultaneous time in this same physical dimension. This is
also the connection of your small one with you. Do you understand?

LASZLO: I think so.

JULIE: You say that we turn our emotions off, and I know that some people do that.
I feel that I express my emotions quite well. Is this incorrect?

ELIAS: No; but although there are many people who disconnect from their emotions
and invalidate their essence by denying their feelings, in another sense, you
allow intersection with your intellect in thoughts that sometimes invalidate your
feelings. It is a positive tool. Be open to your feelings, because they are a
natural expression. It is incorrect to invalidate them, ever. Underlined! The way
you invalidate these feelings is by allowing your thoughts to interfere with them.
(Another very long pause)

Well, I see we are in a company of great minds! (Much laughter) We will allow a
brief interruption of our session, and continue briefly afterwards. (We all laugh,
as Elias experiences difficulty with the word “session”, really drawing it out and
emphasizing the S’s.)

BREAK: 7:25 PM. RESUME: 8:15 PM. (“Time” was twenty seconds)

ELIAS: We will continue. I will now direct to your focus. You have the opportunity
to clarify. (Another long pause) We will begin with Lawrence! (Grinning, and we
all laugh)

VICKI: Well, I’m just very confused about the whole first part. I don’t even know
how to phrase the question! I’m very confused.

ELIAS: (Very patiently) Can you express where the basis of your confusion lies?
VICKI: I guess the basis of it lies in being able to assimilate the information in
such a way that I can apply it to my life here.

ELIAS: As I have stated, your beliefs are incorporated into everything that you
do. Before you can shift your focus in any matter, you must deal with your
beliefs. Each time you create a shift, or better terminology, allow a shift of
your focus, you affect an existing belief. In many of you, correction; in all of
you, you have incorporated beliefs over many developmental focuses. You did not
only acquire all of your beliefs in this particular present focus. When you feel
you have a blockage in some area, you look to your influences as a child. This is
only very partially correct. As I have told you, your lifetime spans many
developmental focuses. You develop an affinity with certain belief systems
throughout many developments. You reinforce them through these many developments.

An example which should be easy for you to assimilate into your present focus
would be that in the area of religious beliefs. You repeat Christian beliefs over
several developmental focuses. Even when you attempt to move away from these
concepts and beliefs, they are incorporated into your physical focus so deeply
that they do not just remove themselves from you. It takes much work. It takes
much noticing of these beliefs. This is sometimes difficult when you are not even
aware of how deeply you have incorporated these beliefs.

Religious beliefs, while being easy to identify with, are not your only belief
systems. Your beliefs in how you interact with each other in relationships is
another obvious belief system. There are many beliefs that you incorporate into
your physical focus. These are only a few.

The first element is to recognize when a belief is creating conflict between

thought and feeling. You will understand when this conflict occurs. The way you
will understand is that you will have to choose between a thought or a feeling.
When you are in harmony and your beliefs are not creating conflict, you will not
have to choose between thoughts and feelings. This occurs every day of your focus.

You may consider an exercise this week, in your terms. Each time you experience an
impulse or an emotion, no matter how small, notice your thought patterns. Notice
if they are in harmony. If they are not, you will experience a pull. This pull
will show itself in a manner of excusing, or invalidating, or rationalization.
Sometimes, you will not experience what you feel to be an emotion. You will only
experience an impulse. Do not discount these impulses any more than you would an
actual feeling. Is this clearer?

VICKI: Yes, I think it is clearer. A question; then these impulses are basically
the same as the emotional feeling?

ELIAS: No. I am apologizing for misunderstanding. They are not always the same.
You may experience impulses without a feeling. When you have an impulse to do
something, you do not necessarily feel something about it. Nonetheless, an impulse
is an urging of your essence. Sometimes, you will experience a physical impulse.
This would not be equated with an emotion. This does not mean it should not be
recognized. When your body experiences natural impulses of natural physical
functions, you automatically listen. (Smiling) If you are thirsty, you will drink.
You will have no conflict with this because you will recognize, then you will act
automatically, without thought, on this impulse. This is the division; when you
allow conflict between thought and natural impulse or emotion. This is when you
experience confusion and discomfort. Is this clear?

VICKI: Yes, that helps a lot. (Pause) To just complete the subject, I’ve had quite
a few impulses to share the material I’ve been writing down in these sessions with
people that I feel would enjoy it, and they want to read it, and other people feel
that maybe it’s not such a good idea.

ELIAS: And what do you feel? Although I really do not have to ask you! (Laughter)

VICKI: I feel that I would like to share it with people that I think would really
enjoy it and appreciate it.

ELIAS: I have stated to you all, there are many of like spirit. Many will benefit
from our discussion. Michael is an excellent example of conflict in emotion and
impulses in that particular subject. He has created much unnecessary conflict by
allowing thoughts to conflict with natural feelings and drawings of essences
together. I believe each of you all understand where he created much conflict
within his own focus unnecessarily, in regards to withholding from another
essence. You often will create this same conflict by not accepting another
essence. You do this because you believe your beliefs are more “enlightened” than
others. (Smiling) They are not, necessarily. Each essence has disconnected for the
purpose of this physical experience. In doing this, they choose different beliefs.
This does not mean one is better than another. Some are only more cleverly hidden.

DEB: Can I raise one argument?

ELIAS: Yes. (Smiling)

DEB: In regards to sharing this information with like spirits, I don’t deny that.
But will sharing this information from those like spirits to unlike spirits, with
those who are in conflict with what your are saying, harm any of us or Michael?

ELIAS: Here, we come back to our original focus, in trusting of your essence and
feelings. When you are in connection with your feelings and your intellect is not
in conflict, your own essence will be correctly guiding for you. You each
individually will know intuitively when you encounter a like spirit. (Long pause)

We have no more misunderstandings? (Laughter) I do understand that much

information cannot be processed too quickly! (We all agree) Then, we shall close
and allow you to incorporate and assimilate information, and we will direct a new
focus in our next encounter. This is acceptable? (Everybody acknowledges) Then, I
will tell you to all be in harmony, and no conflict in your essences, until we
gather again.

Elias “departs” at 8:50 PM.

Note: This revision was done on August 6 and 7, 1996. In doing so, I read the
transcript while watching this first videotape. What an experience! I had
forgotten how much this phenomenon has changed in the last year. For example,
Elias used to speak much slower; slow enough, in fact, for us to physically
transcribe during the sessions. This would be impossible today! Also, he is much
more animated now; in physical gestures, in verbal inflections, in facial
expressions. He has always incorporated a sense of humor, but the difference in
the delivery of this humor is drastic. It used to be quite subtle. Now, it is very
directed, and accompanied by a lot of body language. If the phenomenon itself is
interesting to you, I suggest that you come on over and view this tape. You’ll be
amazed!