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It is a fact that only a learned PERSON CAN DEBATE WITH A LEARNED PERSON.

If a disbeliever is a learned Person and the Believer is Not a learned P


erson, THE BELEAVER CAN NOT RESPONCE TO THE oBJECTIONS MADE BY THE DISELIEVER PR
OPERLY..AND IS UNABLE TO refute the doubts made by him.The denouncers of the sel
f Possibility of the False Statement (K-B-R) OF KALAAM 'AL LAF
;ZII OF G-D And the Self Possibility of Falsehood in the Statements of KALAAM 'A
L LAF:ZII OF G-D,often target normal persons of the Believers in the above mensi
oned SELF POSSIBILITIES,(whome the rename as IMKAANIAH)
These targettors and Trappers orare of two types.a)Some of THEM ar Maulviis of t
he Denouncers of the above stated Self Possibility and Self Contigenccy.They are
specially tought how to discuuss in their respective Madaaris {INSTITUTIONS/SCH
OOLS]
Bb)Some of them are missionaries who are trained in this topic particularly and
appearntly are not their Maulvis.They appear to be common men and in some cases
women.There Trainers specially teach them how to dicuss the normal follower of B
elievers in the Self Possibility,how to twist words and how toclaim that one who
believe in this Possibility is not a SUNNI.
These latter mensioned people are appearently more dangerous since the appear to
be a comman Persons.
As these Targettors and Trappers are specially tought ,they are some what progra
mmed,and are experts in in claiming Relations b/w irrelevent topics, misinterpre
ting the quatations, andmemorising a nimber of Quotations.There work is like mis
sionaries and they have adopted their methods with some modifications.
If some one is a Target of these Targettors and have not studied the books of Th
eology,Logic .Dialectical Debates and Philosophy,it is adviseed that he /she may
responce him/her as follow.:-
If you think that you are so great scholor sectarian disputes then go and openly
challamnge our Scholers and Dilectics and our Theologians IN PUBLIC,so that th
e entire world can see and hear the discussions and know the truth.
It must be noted that a number of bords of schools and Madaaris have unfortunat
ely chopped of a number of Text books on THEOLOGY,LOGIC,MATHEMATICS,ASTRONOMY,PH
ILOSOPHI,ARGUMENTATIONS etc.so it may be the case that a number of Our Maulivis
are unable to resond properly.So it is strongly recommend that ONE MUST REFER TO
AN AUTHENTIC THEOLOGIST WHO USE TO TEACH THEOLOGY (AL 'ILAAHIAT), KALAAM,AND ''
AQAA'ID.Even on Internet the THE TARGETTORS AND TRAPPERS have occupied spaces an
d are continously and constantly trying to misgude normal persons.These Denounce
rs of Self Possibility (FIRQAH AL IMTINAA''IAH) HAVE CROSSED THE LIMITS.IT IS TH
E TIME FALL ALL THE BELIEVERS IN SELF POSSIBILITY TO RESTORE THE THEOLOGICAL ,PH
ILOSOPHICALTEXT BOOKS ,PARTICULARLY THE BOOKS OF LOGICS TO NULLIFY THESE ATTEPTS
.
hOW EVER IF SOME ONE CAN NOT ESCAPE SUCH A PERSON OR IF IT BECOMES NECESSORY TO
discuss ,one may proceed as follow :-
FIRST#
Ask a Person who attempt toTarget you to State EXPLICITLY the 1st FundamentalPr
erequites Of the Dogma Imtinaa'' 'A;kidhb
(Self Absurdity Of Falsehood in The Divne Staements the following Qestion:Does h
e (or in some cases she) believes that:-
KALAAM 'AL LAFZ:I (speach of the words} AND kalaam 'an nafis (speach of theself)
ARE ONE AND SAME.
B)Divine Speach is Neither Kalaam 'AL LAF
;ZI NOR KALAAM'AN NAFSII.
c)Both speaches are mutually distinct from one an other but both are Eternal.
d)Both are mutually distinct but KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZIII is Not ETERNAL,and kalaam '
an nafsi ,is ETERNAL.
SECOND#
Ask him to make a choice,since no Discussion is Possible, and no one has any rig
ht to discuss upon a Non Fandamental Issue if the Fundamental Issues and the Pre
requists are disputed or Unsettled.
If he/she selects one of them then ask him/her twhether he/she believes that the
truth of s Statment(KHABAR OF KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZII OF G-D) is :
a)A RELATIVE ATTRIBUTE OF G-D
b)ACTIVE ATTRIBUTE OF G-D.
c)AN ESSSNTIAL ATTRIBUTE OF G-D.
If the targetor refuses to makes a selection then tell him/her that it is among
the FUNDAMENTAL PREREQUISITS OF THE DOGMA ,ANDAND THE ISSUES NOUNLY (namely) Imt
inaa'' 'Alkidhb andImkaan 'alkidhb Can not be discussed with out setelling them
.
HE/SHE must sxolicitly state is selected answer.In some cases ask himtowrite is
belief explicitly if the targetor seems tobe so cleaver that he uses to twist hi
s/HER words.
THIRD:
ASK him/her, Whether He/She believe that G-D is NECESSORYIN EXISTENCE (WAAJIB '
AL WUJUUD) OR Not.
If the answer is in negativ then the answerer who so ever he/she may be becomes
A Kafir Immediately of Deneying the Necessory Axiom Of Islam ,that is not even D
EPENDENT ON NAS:S: (D:RURIYAAT AD DIIN).
If he/she replies in affermative then proceed further and ask him whether each S
tatement of G-d is NECESSORY IN EXISTENCE or Possible In Existence.
If the answer is former then tellHim/ser that AL-H is the Only Necessory Existen
t and your ANSWER IMPLIES THE PLURALITY AND MULTIPLITY OF NECESSORIES IN EXISTEN
CE(S)
So no thing can be discussed further,
Since a Statement of G-D IS NOT G-D.TO SAY THAT EACH DISTINT STATEMENT OF G-D IS
G-D is some thing like ATHNASIAN /TRINITARIAN TRINITY.
Tell the opponent that as we differ on the major Issue nothing can be discussed
further.If HE/SHE SAYS THAT HE/SHE BELIEVES THAT EACH STATMENT OF G-D IS MUMKIN
ALWUJUUD (POSSIBLE IN EXISTENCE) THEN Tell HimHer
EXPLICITLY THAT:-
If He /She Really an d Truely believe THAT STATEMENTS OF KALAAM AL LAF:ZII OF G-
D ARE POSSIBLE SELF POSSIBLE IN EXISTENCE THEN FALSEHOOD IN A PSSSIBLE IN EXISTE
NCE IS NOT THE FALSEHOOD UPON G-D Since G-D IS NOT POSSIBLE IN EXISTENCE BUTNECE
SSORY IN EXISTENCE,. In the Srict Sence And Real Meaning of The Terms And Expres
sions.There fore If He Argues That Falsehood is Self bsurd Upon G-D then He/She
Contradicts HIIMSELF/HERSELF.
IF He/She has accepted previously that KALAAM 'AL 'AFZII and TRUTH OF KALAAM '
AL LAF:ZII ARE ACTIVE ATTRIBUTES OF G-D,OR THEY ARE RELATIVE ATTRIBUTES OF G-D,
BHE/SHE SHALL ULTIMATELY CONTRADICT HIMSELF if he/ she says so.
If He/She has previously Claimed /Accepted that EACH ONE OF THEM OR ANT ONE OF T
HEM IS AN ESSENTIAL ATTRIBUTE OF G-D,then this belief is not according to the Or
thodox Asha''irah and Maturiidiah (May all-h bless them).
Some Of The Extremists of Salfites rigidly declair All Those Who Believe in the
Difference THAT THE ESSENTIAL ATTRIBUTES OF G-D and Non Essential Attribites of
G-D are Essentially Different ATTRIBUTES OF G-D,as Heritics Unorthodox.Hetrodox
and Out of The Folds Of Ahlussunnah Wal Jamaah.But they are in Error.
Similarly these denouncers have borrowed this Idea from them and a minute Minori
ty Of Maturidites.
Majority of Maturidites disagree from the Minute Maturidites.
A small number of Ma''quulites in Subcontinent have declaired KALAAM ALLAF:ZII a
s Eternal Which Implies that they Accept it is an Essential Attribute.
But it is ascribed toward Maulvi RAD:A of Baraili in Malfu:zaat thAT HE DENIED T
HE DIFFERENCE (T-F-R-Q-H)
B/W KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZII and KALAAM 'AN NAFSII.
This thing also appears implictly in Subhaan Assubuuh as well.
There fore one who claims that he /she believes in the Eternity Of either of the
m actually diagree from Maulvi Ra:daa of Baraili.Now he/she either have to accep
t that either he/she is correct or Maulvi Ra:daa of Baraily is correct but not b
oth.
A very difficult choice indeed.
Finally if it is claimed that Maulvi Ra:daa Of Baraily is right and all those wh
o believe in that KALAAM 'AL LAF
;ZII AND KALAAM
'AN NAFSII ARE TWO DISTINCT ATTRIBUTES ARE IN eRROR THEN IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT T
HAT DENOUNCERS OF THE SELF POSSIBILITY ARE ACTUALLY NEITHER ASHAA''IRAH NOR MATU
RIIDIAH.
As Maulivi Ra:daa of Baraili hve declaird all those who belive in the stated Abo
ve Distinction AS IN ERROR, The proper Responce is that These Scolores of ASHAA'
'IRAH and Maturidiah are not in Error HE WHO he who declairED them in error is h
imself in ERROR ,rather in gross error.
Any how if any one use to Target a Person on the Issue pof IMKAAN AL KIDHB then
one must settle the NECESSORY PREREQUISITS Of the problem.
It is likely that his/her own views may be fount against vast Majority of 'ASHAA
''IRH and MMATURIDIAH.He/she who denounce STATED ABOVE SELF POSSIBILITY IS LIKEL
Y TO DENOUNCEva Vast majority of 'ASHAA''IRAH and MATURIDIAH as incorrect.This p
roves that he/she is in coorect himself/herself.
If some one claims that Kalaam 'AL LAF
;ZII IS POSSIBLE IN EXISTENCE but is ASSOCIATED WITH (1) DIVINE ESSENCE (THAT I
S NECESSORY IN EXISTENCE I.E IT IS NECESSORY FOR ESSENCE (WAAJIB LIDH DHAAT INST
EAD IF NECESSORY IN ESSENCE (WJIB BIDH DHAAT),then ask that one to quote at leas
t two Sunni Theologians and Dialectics of ASHAA''IRAH and MATURIDIAH UNDER THE F
OLLOWING CONDITIONS IN HIS SUPPORT:-
Condition #1:-
The quotation must be explicit .
Condition#2Iit must Explicitly and Strictly State That KALAAM 'AL LAF:ZII is Ass
ociated (Qaa'im/Sustain/Comminucable)With the Essence Of G-D;OR ITmust Explicitl
y State That Kalaam 'Al Laf:zi is WAAJIB LIDH DHAAT.
If SOME ONE CLAIMS THATHE/HE BELIEVES IN THE IDENTITY OF kKALAAM ;AL LAF:ZII AND
THE DIVINE SUPPOSITUM OR DIVINE EENCE THE HIM /HER THE FOOLOWING ;'' ANY ON
E WHO FOLOW THE Author of SUBHAAN As Subbuuh can not claim thAT klaam 'allaf:zii
is identical to the DIVINE ESSENCE OR DIVINE SUPPOSITUM without declairing the
Auther In Error.[2]
IF ONE FAILS TO DO THIS then it is proved with ABSOLUTE CLEARITY that he/she has
no prrof for His Claim.
Losing all hopes to Target or To Trap a Targetor or a TRAPPER is Most Likely ToR
epeat Irrelevent Matterslike ;
a)Your Scholors have written so and so in THEIR WORKS.
b)If G-D HAS Power over A False Statement Then G-D Must Have Power a)TO EAT,b)T
O GET HUNGARY c)TO DO HOMOSEXTUALITY d)TO STEAL OR TO ROB, etc,etc.
This is a clear indication that he has or she has lost the debate and has not th
ing to responce properly.Just reply that there is no IMPLICATION B/W THE FALSEHO
OD AND ANY ONE OF THE DEFECTS STATED BY YOU.THERE IS NO IMPLICATION B/W ''TOHAVE
POWER OVER THE FALSE STATMENTS AND ANY ONE OF THE DEFECTS STATED BY YOU.
Finally it may be the case that some believers of Firqah Imtinaa''iah have read
this article and may attempt to responce otherwise.Or try to take the discussio
ns to more deep problems.In such a case treat them as missionaries and ask them
to see THEOLOGIANS OF DENOUNCERS OF SELF ABSUDUTY OF FALSE STATEMENTS instead o
f wasting time upon those who have neither studiesd the theological works of eit
her sects NOUNLY(NAMELY) DENOUNCERS OF SELF POSSIBILITY AND DENOUNCERS OF SELF A
BSUDUTY IN STATEMENTS.
It must be noted that these people are usually programmed beople and have a very
restricted knowlidge of the topic.How ever a nubber of there trainers may have
studied the works in more detail. If this is the case then then Tell him/her tha
t go and Publically challange the Scholors of our Sect of Ahlussunnah Wal Jamaa
h in open media ,instead of Targetting and Trapping me who have not studied the
topic.
FOOTNOTE
1) In Enlish the word In is Used with the word Sustain,i.e Sustained in. But the
word In implies the idea of Inclusion which is not intended.SO TO TRANSLATE QAA
'IM BI DHAAT AL BAARII may be translated as ASSOCIATED WITH THE ESSENCE OF G-D,
OR SUSTAINED WITH THE ESSENCE OF G-D INSTEAD OF SUSTAINED IN THE ESSENCE OF G-D
SINCE THE WORD IN CANNOTE THE SENSE OF INCLUSION. NOTE IT THAT ANY THING INCLUDE
D INTHE DIVINE ESSENCE IS DIVINE ESSENCE ITSELF. ESSENTIAL ATTRIBUTES ARE AIN AD
DITION TO DIVINE ESSENCE I.E LA KHARIJ WALA DAKHIL I.E NEOITHJER EXCLUDES NOR IN
CLUDES AS ACCORDING TO FUQHAA AND MUTAKALLI MINDED SUNNIS OF DEOBAND, BUT IDENTI
CAL TO SUFI AND PHLOSOPHICAL MINDED ULAMAA OF SUNNIS OF DEOBAND.
.2)It may please be noted that The Author Of Imtinaa'' 'An NA:ZIIR Believed in t
he Identity of Essential Atrributes Of G-D and Divine ESSENCE,while The Author O
f Subhaan 'AS SUBBUUH believed bthat the Attributes Of G-D are QAA
'IM BI DHAT AL BAARII.
Note This article is case sensitive and Upper cases and lower cases are delibera
te. they matter.
More articles SHALL BE SOON PRESENTED 'INSHAA'ALLAH

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